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Re: What happens if you follow diff religions and die? [Re: r00tg04t]
    #4921066 - 11/11/05 06:51 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I believe death just starts a trip. where you end up pretty much depends on set and setting! in fact I think it's the grand trip of your life, if you don't lose yourself along the way. cause here you are, at the point where it all sums up and the final math is done.

I do feel however that this last moments, this crossing the border can still change it all. in this I agree with jesus, when he showed the thief on the cross could still save himself. set and setting my friends... set and setting. and at the core of every trip I do think you'll find the question: what do you want? what's your purpose?

ultimately I believe the world beyond death is a liminal space of creativity. your life can be seen as the slow construction of what you'll experience in the afterlife. (the karma concept fits well in here). but what religion does not clearly express is that imagination is indeed the last frontier. so for instance, jesus re-arranged all those concepts of the judaic tradition creating a new path in the afterlife. he believed he could take people to a better experience of life beyond death and he assured he would be there waiting for them. this is a very powerful concept.
in the amazon you have similar myths of great chiefs dying to reappear a few days later in visions giving instructions how to contact them in this life and how to meet them beyond death.
children are particularly susceptible to this kind of contacts. they allow imagination and fantasy a lot more room in their lives then adults usually do. their experience of the world is deeply emotional and a lot more open to the unknown.
so be creative about death. buddha for instance came up with the idea that heaven itself is not good enough. "would you believe in heaven if heaven was all you had?"

what do you think? be creative, maybe a new idea of the afterlife can take life itself to a whole new paradigm of existence.


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Re: What happens if you follow diff religions and die? [Re: a_h_w]
    #4924241 - 11/12/05 12:13 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

In the Bible in the book of Romans it says that Abraham was justified by his faith in God, and that like Abraham even up to today in this present time people will be credited with righteousness by faith in God. And the true God is the God of Love the creator of the universe. Krsna the Hindu God matches this, so does Allah, so they may be considered the same.


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Re: What happens if you follow diff religions and die? [Re: r00tg04t]
    #4924396 - 11/12/05 12:50 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Apparently, for someone who 'says' that he doesn't believe in G-D, you have been seriously tainted by religious bigotry, Christian style. Moreover, your friend reads apocalyptic Bible stories with as little understanding as the ancients had. Paul of Tarsus expected an immanent return of Jesus in clouds of glory two millennia ago. Paul was wrong. Your friend is wrong. If you believe that Christians (so-called) own the "true god" [sic], then you are wrong as well. The fundamentalist Christian is subject to extreme magical thinking, and hence not only is [s]he buying the heresy of fundamentalism, but is demonstrating a form of mental illness. Thus, the compassionate and humble person who has never heard about the Biblical Jesus is doomed to damnation, according to the bigoted fundamentalist with his/her fanatical agenda.

Moreover, the fundamentalist Christian believes that 'Jesus is G-D,' instead of the more accurate formulation that 'G-D was in Christ.' The profound yet subtle distinctions of Biblical theology escape the fundamentalist mentality. They can't even grasp that Jesus and all His followers were Jews who practiced Judaism and weren't called Christians for 150 years. Ignorance is behind the assertions of fundamentalism in any religion, ignorance and hatred. The inner life of Christianity is therefore absent, and the inner life of Christianity is Christ. The more rabid, judgemental and hateful, the further from the Heart-Mind of Christ they are. Turns out that THEY are the one's who are damned!


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Re: What happens if you follow diff religions and die? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #4926619 - 11/12/05 08:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

gosh, i though the Q was about what would happen to an individual who conscientiously followed several different religions (sequentially, or simultaneously, mmm?) & then died & had to figure out which paradise to choose, hehheh...
silly me...

hiya markos!


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