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 Re: wow thesae so potant(tripple psilocin otc way read this  [Re: shakta]
#1739720 - 07/22/03 11:03 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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 Re: wow thesae so potant(tripple psilocin otc way read this [Re: Papaver]
#1739763 - 07/22/03 11:15 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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(written in code to prevent cpu blokage)
Can someone please explain "cpu blokage" to me?
maybe he stuck a cpu up his ass ? 
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Re: wow thesae so potant(tripple psilocin otc way read this [Re: deanofmean]
#1739811 - 07/22/03 11:35 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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hmmm, interesting ideas. Along with preparing the cakes with the tphan water, could you use the dunk techniques with it to futher the potency benefits?
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hyper_dermic
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Re: wow thesae so potant(tripple psilocin otc way read this now) [Re: trypyamine]
#1739992 - 07/23/03 12:39 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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u know, tryptophan sale is restricted in the US. What was their explaination? Bad batch from korea or something.
the most probable reason tryptophan is restricted in teh US, is because its a natural, safe(er), more abundant, and MUCH CHEAPER sleep aid....
pharmacutical companys stand to lose ALOT of cash if any yahoo with a glass of warm milk (in pill form) can make me fall asleep...
so hence, tryptophan is restricted....
its alwys about the money......
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Re: wow thesae so potant(tripple psilocin otc way read this now) [Re: cb9fl]
#1740023 - 07/23/03 12:57 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Can someone confirm that the directions on that site are actually good? Tryptophan is actually still easy to get in the US if you look around. I've been happy with IAS (not for tryptophan.)
http://www.smart-drugs.com/smartdrugs-page.htm
Has is actually been confirmed that tryptamine increases potency? I thought that was still under debate.
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Re: wow thesae so potant(tripple psilocin otc way read this now) [Re: Tantalus]
#1744825 - 07/24/03 03:50 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Carefull ordering from offshore pharmacies. Alot of people have been burned even thou the stuff wasnt hardcore (eg tryptophan)
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Re: wow thesae so potant(tripple psilocin otc way read this now) [Re: Tantalus]
#1744831 - 07/24/03 03:53 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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I think it would seeing as psilocybin and psilocin are tryptamines....
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 Re: wow thesae so potant(tripple psilocin otc way read this now) [Re: qres]
#1744863 - 07/24/03 04:07 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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qres said:
Ketone-catalyzed decarboxylation, as described by Drone #342:
Decarboxylation is accomplished by mixing about 80 g tryptophan in 250 mL of high-boiling solvent (xylene, DMSO, cyclohexanol, etc.), adding a dash of a ketone (I like 5 g of cyclohexanone, but a couple grams of MEK works reasonably well), heat it to around 150 deg, and when evolution of CO2 ceases/solution is clear, the reaction is complete. This takes anywhere from 1.5 to 4 hours. After this is over, the solvent is boiled off (or at least greatly reduced in volume), and the residue is dissolved in DCM. This is washed with a 5% NaHCO3 solution, then a distilled water solution, then the DCM layer is separated off, dried with MgSO4, and the DCM is boiled off. You now have reasonably pure tryptamine
I'm just a newbie, but maybe this thread should be in the advanced forum.
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Re: wow thesae so potant(tripple psilocin otc way read this now) [Re: cyndyl]
#1744870 - 07/24/03 04:09 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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phew, good idea. that's where it is now
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Re: wow thesae so potant(tripple psilocin otc way read this now) [Re: shirley knott]
#1745795 - 07/24/03 09:25 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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I was really glad they Modded you ...it was really funny as shit when you couldnt quite reach the thread lock button...Im serious i fell out when i read that  i guess it wasnt that funny but it shure was to me
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Re: wow thesae so potant(tripple psilocin otc way read this now) [Re: qres]
#1746991 - 07/25/03 04:47 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ok, first of all, tryptophan is easily available in the US as a veterinatary supplement. "Not for human consumption", yet still USP grade (pharmaceutical grade) hmmmm.... Put the word tryptophan into google. There are several "sponsored links", one of them is the lowest priced and also listed in erowid's vendor list, if I recall correctly.
So now you have some tryptophan, what shall we do with it? Well, you could do some chemical procedure that while not too hard requires use of lab equipment and knowledge, and dangerous, flameable chemicals, or you can go along with our great mushroom tradition and let mother nature do it.
How do I let mother nature do it, you might ask. Well, if you can't do bulk yet but want to experiment, then mix in the tryptophan to your cakes or grain jars, keeping in mind that each molecule is heavier by the atomic mass of 1 CO2. Look at this see how tryptophan has one extra C and two extra O? (I'll let you use your high school chemistry knowledge to figure this one out) Use the amounts listed in the tryptamine cubensis document as a guideline. In nature, when the mycelium digests the substrate, it uses naturally found tryptophan to make our favorite chemicals, so we supplement the substrate with tryptophan and we get more of those chemicals. Sure it's not as efficient as tryptamine, but it works and tryptophan is far cheaper and easier to obtain than tryptamine.
If you've read this far and understand the above and can do bulk, here's the real good part: To really take advantage of the power of nature, we add tryptophan to bulk substrate at the time of spawning. This way, during the spawn run, the microbes left alive after pasteurization help to decarboxylate the tryptophan into tryptamine, the mycelium also does this and by the time that the mushrooms are growing, our substrate is supplemented not only with tryptophan but tryptamine as well! And we didn't have to pay ridiculous prices or do dangerous chemical procedures. 
I've written about this in several threads in the past, do a search for some more info. There's also plenty of other threads about this concept.
Good luck, have fun, and respect mother nature 
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Re: wow thesae so potant(tripple psilocin otc way read this now) [Re: psyphon]
#1747053 - 07/25/03 05:31 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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great post psyphon...one question tho....is the vet suppliment over the counter or does it have to be prescribed to a pet?
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Re: wow thesae so potant(tripple psilocin otc way read this now) [Re: ]
#1747579 - 07/25/03 11:24 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Psyphon -- tryptophan decarboxylation is inhibited by a self-feedback mechanism. Tryptamine is already decarboxylated so we can skip that step in that case.
I don't thik tryptophan would do a great deal, at least nothing compared to something that doesn't get downregulated (or at least doesn't matter.)
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Re: wow thesae so potant(tripple psilocin otc way read this [Re: micro]
#2027490 - 10/21/03 02:30 AM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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2c-i
edit:
sorry this is a mistake..hehe lol wrong thread...go figure...
Edited by Elemicin (10/22/03 02:13 AM)
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Re: wow thesae so potant(tripple psilocin otc way read this [Re: Elemicin]
#2028019 - 10/21/03 09:19 AM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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2c-i is a phenethylamine, not a tryptamine.... Why 2c-i?
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 Re: wow thesae so potant(tripple psilocin otc way read this [Re: micro]
#2030235 - 10/21/03 10:16 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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2c-i is a phenethylamine, not a tryptamine.... Why 2c-i?
I guess he just wants his shrooms to trip  . Better than eating it yourself .
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Re: wow thesae so potant(tripple psilocin otc way read this [Re: Flux]
#2036500 - 10/23/03 04:01 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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Now, unless you want me to post otc home bake m syn ths that anyone with the mentality above a thirteen y.o. can compleat in a week (that as well as simple smokable psilocin fb extraction) You better share your data with me.
Yeah, actually I'd be quite interested in seeing that, especially the smokable psilocin fb, I've thought about it, but never heard of anybody doing it. So, whoever didn't cooperate to make you post this in the first place, they aren't ever going to cooperate, in fact, even if you think they are, they're fucking with you. Go ahead and share, before it's too late!
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DO THE TRYPTAMINE PSYCHEDELICS CAUSE BRAIN DAMAGE AND AT WHAT DOSAGES? I WANT DETAILED DATA
nah man, no brain damage. No detailed data, cause it doesn't happen (at least not with the well known tryps). Even at dangerous doses, it's not brain damage you worry about, and least not pharmacological brain damage, you could stress yourself into a stroke or something, but that would be more mental freak out caused and unrelated to the actual chemistry of the tryp.
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Oh, and BTW, the syns will be posted across the us... unless you comply.
They won't ever comply dude! They're just gonna keep shafting you. I know, they kept stringing me along, throwin me a biscuit here and there to keep me pacified, in the end, they fucked me. Go ahead and post the syns!
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Re: wow thesae so potant(tripple psilocin otc way read this [Re: mycofile]
#2036576 - 10/23/03 04:26 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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just wanted to add something about psychedelics and brain damage:
I was asking my psychology prof. about psychedelics and brain damage and she told me that there is no data to make any conclusions about a possible correlation, mainly because there havent been any longetudinal studies done on the subject. Theres no funding or reliable way of collecting data until the government will allow such studies.
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Re: wow thesae so potant(tripple psilocin otc way read this [Re: Seraph]
#2037491 - 10/23/03 09:03 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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I guess that would depend on your definition of "brain damage." For example, in order to classify as "damage" does it have to be a bad thing?
You're right, though -- it's really hard to do longitudinal studies because:
1.) We didn't have the equipment necessary before 1978
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2.) Like your teacher said -- you'd have to find someone to constantly take LSD for an extended period of time which is unethical.
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Re: wow thesae so potant(tripple psilocin otc way read this now) [Re: cb9fl]
#2040194 - 10/24/03 05:47 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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isnt tryptophan that drug thats in turkey, and when u eat it it gets u kinda tired or something? or is that a myth...
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