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 Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? 
#16604558 - 07/28/12 09:25 AM (9 months, 15 days ago) |
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Just over a year ago, we broke the story of Silk Road, the underground online market that's like an eBay for illegal drugs. It's been thriving ever since. But as the summer drags on, Silk Road users are becoming increasingly paranoid over a series of unexplained disappearances. And the Drug Enforcement Agency has now revealed it's investigating the site. Is Silk Road really as invincible as it seems?
In early July, the DEA told the Austin TV news station KXAN that it was investigating Silk Road, where users openly buy and sell drugs, from heroin to ecstacy and pot. New York Senator Chuck Schumer had asked the DEA to look into the site after we first wrote about it about a year ago, but this is the first public acknowledgement that the DEA has heeded his call.
Silk Road users don't seem immediately concerned about news of the investigation. "ASSHOLE reporters writing lies," wrote user TrustusJones in a post about the article on Silk Road's bustling forums. He or she probably feels well-protected by the twin technologies Silk Road uses to keep users hidden: The anonymity software the Tor Network and Bitcoins, a nearly untraceable currency. (Proving its bona fides once again, Tor recently stymied an FBI kiddie porn investigation.)
But over the past few months, a number incidents have suggested that Silk Road users are vulnerable, unsettling some users and sparking rumors of a crackdown. Don your tin-foil hat, and follow me.
One of the most prominent incidents was the sudden disappearance of a much-beloved cocaine dealer named "MiN," in May. For months, MiN, who claimed to live in Canada, had sold and shipped some of the highest quality coke in the dark net—one user described it as "STRONG, euphoria and some speediness." After he vanished, customers flocked to the Silk Road forums to complain that their orders hadn't been filled. Rumors swirled that MiN had been busted and that he was actually the alter ego of a family of four from Ottawa who were arrested in mid-May and charged with exporting huge amounts of cocaine abroad. (The Ottawa Royal Canadian Mounted Police would not comment on whether Silk Road was involved in the Ottawa case.)
It was said that MiN tripped up by accepting Western Union money orders in addition to Bitcoins, which opened him up to being traced.
"If you ever did business with [MiN] then maybe you should stay on the down low for a month or two until everything blows over," wrote one user soon after his disappearance. If MiN actually had been busted, this could spell bad news for the dozens of Silk Road users he sent cocaine to.
Feeding rumors that something's amiss has been the unusual silence in recent days of Silk Road's anonymous administrator, who goes by the handle Dread Pirate Roberts. Given the technologies protecting it, the easiest way authorities could totally shut down Silk Road would be to infiltrate the board at its highest level: Possibly by pinching Dread Pirate Roberts himself. All members of the digital underground have painful memories of how the FBI turned the hacker Sabu, leader of the hacktivist gang LulzSec, against his foot soldiers. So they're always on the lookout for signs that "DPR," as his fans call him, might have been turned and is helping the authorities turn Silk Road into a giant honeypot.
What troubles especially paranoid Silk Road is that DPR is usually a voluble presence on board. In honor of 4/20, he held a massive drug sale on Silk Road, which was advertised as including a giveaway with a grand prize of "a trip for two with all the trimmings to paradise, all expenses included." But he's only posted on Silk Road forums three times since May 6th.
"Does anyone else find it strange that DPR's post count dropped significantly?" asked a user today. "I never payed much attention to it before until a friend mentioned that some major MDMA distributors from the NW USA heard about the operators of [Silk Road] getting caught. I brushed it off as a rumor until I looked through DPR's post count and now I'm a bit concerned. I know this is pure speculation as I have no evidence or reliable source, It just seems like something worthy of discussing."
The mood hasn't been helped by news reports that show authorities around the world are increasingly looking into Silk Road. Earlier this month, a New Zealand customs officer arrested on Methamphetamine charges was found to be a member of the Silk Road. This summer Australia has recently experienced something of a delayed Silk Road craze, with every major news outlet sounding the alarm about the mail-order drugs supposedly flooding into the country from the site.
In a forum post last week, a longtime user named mr_sketchy captured the sense of unease some Silk Road users have been feeling in recent days. "Why are all the top Vendors disappearing?" he asked. "I know a few got busted and the nature of this site is that people on here are rather transient from even the very early days. Perhaps its my imagination but is it me or is the rate of which the bigger and top quality vendors disappearing increased in the last few months?"
Almost every conspiracy theory on Silk Road ends with a similar qualification: "Perhaps it's my imagination... It's probably nothing... I'm probably just being paranoid..."
And these lateset ripples probably are just another wave of unfounded paranoia that sweeps periodically through this dark corner of the web, fueled by the mind-bending substances traded there and the anonymity that makes the whole thing possible. Maybe MiN disappeared because he was a scammer, and the other vendors just got sick of dealing mail-order drugs. Maybe Dread Pirate Roberts is on vacation with the winner of his 4/20 contest. Or maybe it's something else.
Jul 16, 2012
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: Simplepowa]
#16604633 - 07/28/12 09:50 AM (9 months, 15 days ago) |
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Repost.
SilkRoad Baby. I get my silk road on the daily. three addresses delivering death to my city. Man fuck driving south to get ripped off by some skumbags.
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: downlowfunk]
#16604667 - 07/28/12 10:03 AM (9 months, 15 days ago) |
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aw sorry for the repost.
Feel free to delete as will, mods/admins!
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: Simplepowa]
#16605145 - 07/28/12 12:22 PM (9 months, 15 days ago) |
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ive heard about silk road, but never actually pursued it.
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: Growth]
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Haha, I've been calling it for a while now. You just can't do that kind of thing.
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: Growth]
#16605289 - 07/28/12 12:47 PM (9 months, 15 days ago) |
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ive heard about silk road, but never actually pursued it.
Same here.
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: Growth]
#16605290 - 07/28/12 12:47 PM (9 months, 15 days ago) |
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It's good. If u get raided tell them "I got it from Silk Road." Now there is no more wonder to who the supplier is. They know they cant touch Silk Road. This will get your ass out of a lot of trouble. When you hold your suppliers name from them they throw the book at ya. So just say Silk Road.
It is just like blaming Osama Bin Laden when it was really the CIA.
is Silk Road the CIA??? I always think so.
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: uber_aj]
#16605427 - 07/28/12 01:15 PM (9 months, 15 days ago) |
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The Farmer's Market has been raided as far as I know, as they didn't stick to bitcoins.
Silk road itself is not important - the concept of silk road is important as it shows how impossible it is to uphold/enforce prohibition in a free society with a global capitalist market.
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: Lord_McLovin]
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damn it I just found about it today man.
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: Lord_McLovin]
#16605476 - 07/28/12 01:24 PM (9 months, 15 days ago) |
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The Farmer's Market has been raided as far as I know, as they didn't stick to bitcoins.
Silk road itself is not important - the concept of silk road is important as it shows how impossible it is to uphold/enforce prohibition in a free society with a global capitalist market.
esplain...
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: Lord_McLovin]
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Silk road itself is not important - the concept of silk road is important as it shows how impossible it is to uphold/enforce prohibition in a free society with a global capitalist market.
I disagree, I think it shows even a secure system can't resist CIA/NSA hacking.
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: Doc_T]
#16605587 - 07/28/12 01:44 PM (9 months, 15 days ago) |
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It doesn't matter, even if they shut down hundreds of these sites. There will be more.
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: At My Peak]
#16605875 - 07/28/12 02:27 PM (9 months, 15 days ago) |
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Even if it does get shut down, who would be the ones getting in trouble? Would it not only be the site admin? What would be smarter if they infiltrated it as sellers
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: theonlysun81]
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Well it is interesting certainly not the best supplier out their but if it's dry for something or other, the Road should have a bulk deal on it. qp of good shrooms for $535 That is not bad. QPs of good bud for around 1000. Good prices for NewEngland not sure how it is for your area.
10 grams of synthetic mescaline for $777
only need .3 gram per a good hit.
In my parents day they always told the cops a hitchhiker gave it to them. These days point at silk road.
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: downlowfunk]
#16606012 - 07/28/12 02:51 PM (9 months, 15 days ago) |
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The silk road is not going down. The security is high on that site. Individual users might get busted for not practicing good privacy practices, but they arent going to shut down the silk road.
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: supernovasky]
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The silk road is not going down. The security is high on that site. Individual users might get busted for not practicing good privacy practices, but they arent going to shut down the silk road.
lol, well if u disappear we know where ya went champ!
Jeff Garzik, a member of the Bitcoin core development team, says in an email that bitcoin is not as anonymous as the denizens of Silk Road would like to believe. He explains that because all Bitcoin transactions are recorded in a public log, though the identities of all the parties are anonymous, law enforcement could use sophisticated network analysis techniques to parse the transaction flow and track down individual Bitcoin users.
"Attempting major illicit transactions with bitcoin, given existing statistical analysis techniques deployed in the field by law enforcement, is pretty damned dumb," he says.
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: em_bre_O]
#16606151 - 07/28/12 03:16 PM (9 months, 15 days ago) |
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The silk road is not going down. The security is high on that site. Individual users might get busted for not practicing good privacy practices, but they arent going to shut down the silk road.
lol, well if u disappear we know where ya went champ!
Jeff Garzik, a member of the Bitcoin core development team, says in an email that bitcoin is not as anonymous as the denizens of Silk Road would like to believe. He explains that because all Bitcoin transactions are recorded in a public log, though the identities of all the parties are anonymous, law enforcement could use sophisticated network analysis techniques to parse the transaction flow and track down individual Bitcoin users.
"Attempting major illicit transactions with bitcoin, given existing statistical analysis techniques deployed in the field by law enforcement, is pretty damned dumb," he says.
Thats what bitcoin tumblers are for
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: uber_aj]
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Bitcoins have been too much of a hassle for me. 
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: SolverT]
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The silk road is not going down. The security is high on that site. Individual users might get busted for not practicing good privacy practices, but they arent going to shut down the silk road.
lol, well if u disappear we know where ya went champ!
Jeff Garzik, a member of the Bitcoin core development team, says in an email that bitcoin is not as anonymous as the denizens of Silk Road would like to believe. He explains that because all Bitcoin transactions are recorded in a public log, though the identities of all the parties are anonymous, law enforcement could use sophisticated network analysis techniques to parse the transaction flow and track down individual Bitcoin users.
"Attempting major illicit transactions with bitcoin, given existing statistical analysis techniques deployed in the field by law enforcement, is pretty damned dumb," he says.
Thats what bitcoin tumblers are for
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: nixon]
#16606447 - 07/28/12 04:11 PM (9 months, 15 days ago) |
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Bitcoins have been too much of a hassle for me.
Too much of a hassle? I guess it's much less of a hassle to get arrested and thrown in jail, lawyer fees, community service, probation, etc. If you can't put forth the effort to keep yourself anonymous in these types of environments, simply stay away from them is my advice.
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: uber_aj]
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In my parents day they always told the cops a hitchhiker gave it to them. These days point at silk road.
Or, you know, don't talk to the fucking pigs at all except for, "I want my lawyer." The mere act of saying you got them on the Silk Road is an admission of guilt, which will bring you a harsher sentence and limit your lawyers ability to help you.
That's terrible advice to be giving people.
Also add charges of receiving drugs via mail. Federal offense.
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: William Tell]
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Also add charges of receiving drugs via mail. Federal offense.
...And a couple computer crimes im sure.
However, when you meet with a prosecutor (and your lawyer is present) whatever you talk about when your negotiating a plea can't be used against you, and your attorney knows where the lines are drawn, and should do all of the talking anyway. Its an extraordinarily rare situation when a prosecutor becomes a witness in a trial, and there are many ethical barriers to it.
I wouldn't say a word about that shit until I knew all of my hard drives and any forensically recoverable data holding devices were "stolen" and/or in a safe deposit box on a nice Caribbean island.
I didnt take the advice literally, because you should NEVER SAY ANYTHING IF YOU GET ARRESTED.
otherwise, I like the silkroad cop-out, that's a smart guy that thought of that.
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: SuperD]
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Bitcoins have been too much of a hassle for me.
Too much of a hassle? I guess it's much less of a hassle to get arrested and thrown in jail, lawyer fees, community service, probation, etc. If you can't put forth the effort to keep yourself anonymous in these types of environments, simply stay away from them is my advice.
No, you misunderstood the way it was interpreted. I said theyre too much of a hassle in a way that i'd like to stick to buying from my local street dealer instead..
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: rodfarva]
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Also add charges of receiving drugs via mail. Federal offense.
...And a couple computer crimes im sure.
However, when you meet with a prosecutor (and your lawyer is present) whatever you talk about when your negotiating a plea can't be used against you, and your attorney knows where the lines are drawn, and should do all of the talking anyway. Its an extraordinarily rare situation when a prosecutor becomes a witness in a trial, and there are many ethical barriers to it.
I wouldn't say a word about that shit until I knew all of my hard drives and any forensically recoverable data holding devices were "stolen" and/or in a safe deposit box on a nice Caribbean island.
I didnt take the advice literally, because you should NEVER SAY ANYTHING IF YOU GET ARRESTED.
otherwise, I like the silkroad cop-out, that's a smart guy that thought of that.
If you're legitimately afraid of the police getting your hard drive and already use the Silk Road you could order some C4 and apply a small amount to your hard drive along with a detonator. How to remotely detonate it would be up to you, but it would only be worth it if destruction of evidence was a preferable charge to whatever the hard drive would reveal.
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: PP128]
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Also add charges of receiving drugs via mail. Federal offense.
...And a couple computer crimes im sure.
However, when you meet with a prosecutor (and your lawyer is present) whatever you talk about when your negotiating a plea can't be used against you, and your attorney knows where the lines are drawn, and should do all of the talking anyway. Its an extraordinarily rare situation when a prosecutor becomes a witness in a trial, and there are many ethical barriers to it.
I wouldn't say a word about that shit until I knew all of my hard drives and any forensically recoverable data holding devices were "stolen" and/or in a safe deposit box on a nice Caribbean island.
I didnt take the advice literally, because you should NEVER SAY ANYTHING IF YOU GET ARRESTED.
otherwise, I like the silkroad cop-out, that's a smart guy that thought of that.
If you're legitimately afraid of the police getting your hard drive and already use the Silk Road you could order some C4 and apply a small amount to your hard drive along with a detonator. How to remotely detonate it would be up to you, but it would only be worth it if destruction of evidence was a preferable charge to whatever the hard drive would reveal.
dude, you think to the extreme.. i like that 
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: em_bre_O]
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keep believing that.......federal charges happen over time when it comes to this.Hang in there and youll learn. I learned alot of it not long ago. I got driving while liscnce suspended dropping a buddy off on base. I got sentanced to 7 1/2 months. I learned ALOT from the writs(prison appeal writers) during that time. ITS NOTHING LIKE COUNTY AND STATE LAW.
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: PP128]
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If you're legitimately afraid of the police getting your hard drive and already use the Silk Road you could order some C4 and apply a small amount to your hard drive along with a detonator. How to remotely detonate it would be up to you, but it would only be worth it if destruction of evidence was a preferable charge to whatever the hard drive would reveal.
A US Customs agent at the Cleveland Accounting show told me a story about a guy they busted who was running 20 child porn servers. He had thermite rigged on over half of them and those were unrecoverable. The data on the other servers got the pedo a life sentence. He said he always wondered how bad the stuff was on the computers he vaporized compared to the stuff on the ones they seized.
Edit to add: Using C4 might get you some weird explosives or terrorist charge. Maybe assault on police as well. If you really must do this then use thermite with a reliably tested ignition method.
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: Rail_Gun]
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If you're legitimately afraid of the police getting your hard drive and already use the Silk Road you could order some C4 and apply a small amount to your hard drive along with a detonator. How to remotely detonate it would be up to you, but it would only be worth it if destruction of evidence was a preferable charge to whatever the hard drive would reveal.
Or you could just encrypt your harddrive with a good password and shut your fucking mouth. That would work in most parts of Europe at least.
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: uber_aj]
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In my parents day they always told the cops a hitchhiker gave it to them. These days point at silk road.
Or, you know, don't talk to the fucking pigs at all except for, "I want my lawyer." The mere act of saying you got them on the Silk Road is an admission of guilt, which will bring you a harsher sentence and limit your lawyers ability to help you.
That's terrible advice to be giving people.
Lawyers are expensive cops usualy fuck off after you tell them who your supplier is. Since snitching on humans is not cool. It is certainly cool to snitch on computers.
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: Lord_McLovin]
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If you're legitimately afraid of the police getting your hard drive and already use the Silk Road you could order some C4 and apply a small amount to your hard drive along with a detonator. How to remotely detonate it would be up to you, but it would only be worth it if destruction of evidence was a preferable charge to whatever the hard drive would reveal.
Or you could just encrypt your harddrive with a good password and shut your fucking mouth. That would work in most parts of Europe at least.
I don't think a good password would help much if the feds were trying to crack it.
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: PP128]
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AES 256- Twofish cascade... They'll have the evidence in 25 years of computation time with a good supercomputer. 
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: Lord_McLovin]
#16609924 - 07/29/12 11:44 AM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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NSA has a good supercomputer. Maybe two.
The more the users act as if they are untouchable, the more LEO will want to touch them. Basic psychology.
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: Doc_T]
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It would be worth the lulz if they wasted that much money for this little piece of useless data. 
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: Lord_McLovin]
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LEO doesn't see it that way, you know that.
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: Doc_T]
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But I do.
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: Lord_McLovin]
#16609994 - 07/29/12 11:58 AM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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You aren't the one making trouble.
Once the public found out about this stuff it was all over.
We've seen it before with other things. Some dumb kid acts dumb, parent raises a ruckus.
Somehow the ruckus gets inflated, and then there's a congressional investigation.
At that point, any sort of tinfoil paranoia is fairly well justified.
NSA has the hardware to do some fancy stuff, and everybody likes to show off for the people that sign the paychecks.
It's completely plausible to imagine NSA cracking the Silk Road, Tor, bitcoins, whatever.
RCs, rock music lyrics, etc, it happens over and over. Once the squares catch wind, it's gonesville.
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: Doc_T]
#16610052 - 07/29/12 12:13 PM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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And once this is over, someone will have a new idea on how to set up an online black market - only safer and more convenient. It's all part of the game.
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: Lord_McLovin]
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Its very likely possible. my friend got his 2C-B that he ordered from there intercepted while in the mail last month. and it wasnt even crossing international borders, so there was no customs check. Silk road is becoming too sketchy to be ordering off of past this point, IMO.
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: Jackthetripper7]
#16610369 - 07/29/12 01:20 PM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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Jackthetripper7 said: it wasnt even crossing international borders,
International orders are a whole can of worms. Lots of countries don't have the protections Americans are used to.
And once an international police agency gives a tip off to US law enforcement, there's cause for a warrant.
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: Doc_T]
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There's probably a laptop on the International Space Station that has the power to break the most advanced encryptions I know about in < 1 week. I hope not, but I believe it.
I don't have kiddie porn, or ANYTHING like that on my devices. The point was you have no idea how easy it is for the state to make a case against you with the most innocent seeming evidence from your computer. I don't want to know what they would find.
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: rodfarva]
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found this on wikipedia..
'The die have been cast and now we will see how they land. We will be diverting even more effort into countering their attacks and making the site as resilient as possible, which means we may not be as responsive to messages for a while. I'm sure this news will scare some off, but should we win the fight, a new era will be born. Even if we lose, the genie is out of the bottle and they are fighting a losing War already.'
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: Doc_T]
#16613534 - 07/29/12 11:44 PM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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How would they even get tipped off? But what sketches me out about my friends order is that it was coming from within the country, so there would have been no customs check, they singled his package out of hundreds upon thousands of packages going though the mail. which is what's sketchy.
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: Jackthetripper7]
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How would who get tipped off? The feds?
Dumb kids being dumb, just like always. Doing thangs and bragging about it online.
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: Doc_T]
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True. my friend is the most on point drug dealer i know, though. he got stopped with over an ounce of molly on him and managed to talk his way out of getting searched. So i find it funny that they intercepted his package. He's laying low, to say the least. 
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: JohnnyZ]
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The Farmer's Market has been raided as far as I know, as they didn't stick to bitcoins.
Silk road itself is not important - the concept of silk road is important as it shows how impossible it is to uphold/enforce prohibition in a free society with a global capitalist market.
farmers Market never used bitcoins. They were around before bitcoins. They used cash, paypal, pecunix and igolder.. and western union at one time. They shouldve just used pecunix and igolder. I think the cash drop were a big mistake cause it left a physical address. a po box, but an address nonetheless. And paypal and western unions were a mistake too.
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found this on wikipedia..
'The die have been cast and now we will see how they land. We will be diverting even more effort into countering their attacks and making the site as resilient as possible, which means we may not be as responsive to messages for a while. I'm sure this news will scare some off, but should we win the fight, a new era will be born. Even if we lose, the genie is out of the bottle and they are fighting a losing War already.'
This is what Silk road said a day or so after Gawker published the first article exposing the website. they seem to be doing a good job keeping the site resilient.
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: losfreddy]
#16614563 - 07/30/12 02:53 AM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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My abject ignorance is showing, but is there any legal precedence concerning the gov. intercepting and reading an individuals personal electronic correspondence without a warrant? I realize that we are currently in the nullification of the constitution " patriot act" era. Have e-mails, cell phone conversations, and the like become fair game for the feds to intercept sans warrant? They need one to tap your phones, or intercept your physical mail, (at least they did) how does this differ, or is there some semantic game played that exempts the other forms of correspondence from inclusion into the need for a warrant to spy on ones own citizens?
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: Jackthetripper7]
#16614672 - 07/30/12 03:32 AM (9 months, 13 days ago) |
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Its very likely possible. my friend got his 2C-B that he ordered from there intercepted while in the mail last month. and it wasnt even crossing international borders, so there was no customs check. Silk road is becoming too sketchy to be ordering off of past this point, IMO.
It may be a possibility that the vendor is being monitored.
Most cases of people getting caught have to do with the vendors using careless packaging, some sketchy guy mailing out 30 packages a day...
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Some users forgetting to keep a low profile and begin to order stuff like there is no tomorrow.
If used correctly, Silk Road is pretty reliable.
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: Sham87]
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The site is awesome, it doesn't look like it's going down anytime soon.
also I read somewhere that the Tor browser they use was developed by the navy lol
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: At My Peak]
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the navy yeah right
a few nerds that joined the navy, maybe
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: venetianblinds]
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the navy yeah right
a few nerds that joined the navy, maybe
If they are in the navy and developed it for the purpose of the navy how can you say that the navy did not develop it?
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: At My Peak]
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its just a label....you could have said the us military developed it or that the us government made it
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: venetianblinds]
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If you think like that than everything is just a label
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: At My Peak]
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If you think like that than everything is just a label
only when things become labled
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: At My Peak]
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If you think like that than everything is just a label
Everything is just a label essentially. A tree isn't really a tree, but that's what we call it. If an ET being were to see a tree on Earth I'm sure it would label it something entirely different than tree. We already see this happen with a multitude of various languages, and I'm talking about here on Earth. The tree is still a tree regardless of what it is called though.
Just wanted to add I'm not disagreeing with you, I only wanted to throw in that quick explanation.
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: SuperD]
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If you think like that than everything is just a label
Everything is just a label essentially. A tree isn't really a tree, but that's what we call it. If an ET being were to see a tree on Earth I'm sure it would label it something entirely different than tree. We already see this happen with a multitude of various languages, and I'm talking about here on Earth. The tree is still a tree regardless of what it is called though.
Just wanted to add I'm not disagreeing with you, I only wanted to throw in that quick explanation.
Yes I understand completely, but then again the concept of a "label" is just a label in itself. "Label" doesn't exist unless that's what you believe it is. It's all about how you perceive things.
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: At My Peak]
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maybe you should post your source so we can word this sentence correctly and precisely
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: At My Peak]
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If you think like that than everything is just a label
Everything is just a label essentially. A tree isn't really a tree, but that's what we call it. If an ET being were to see a tree on Earth I'm sure it would label it something entirely different than tree. We already see this happen with a multitude of various languages, and I'm talking about here on Earth. The tree is still a tree regardless of what it is called though.
Just wanted to add I'm not disagreeing with you, I only wanted to throw in that quick explanation.
Yes I understand completely, but then again the concept of a "label" is just a label in itself. "Label" doesn't exist unless that's what you believe it is. It's all about how you perceive things.
That's what makes discussions like this so ironic. We have to label things in order to even form coherent sentences for the purpose of the discussion. 
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: SuperD]
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this article is a fucking joke. 24 hours after it posted the "missing" DPR launched a complete makeover updating the look and functionality.
as far as tracing the blockchain as evidence? every coin that goes thru SR goes in tumbler, mixing with every other coin in escrow. the chains on these coins are pages long with thousands of different transactions with thousands of other coins, Then, with random amounts coming out into 3 separate wallets before being withdrawn into bitcoin fog, with auto-changing funding addresses, for more mixing before being brought together and sold thru an exchange.
how could ANYONE see the difference between the mixing on SR and the mixing at say bitcoin fog or any other LEGAL washer or escrow service?
did I alsO meantion that you can create unlimited wallets and funding addresses? where every transaction is a new number.
the blockchain is a long, long, road to nowhere when proper security is used.
as for a "buyer" using BTC there. wether you buy them at an exchanger like bitinstant or on the silkroad from a BTC vendor, or even better, get 0 fees if you find a trustworthy SR seller looking to cash out BTC's for MoneyPak codes. any time BTC's are deposited from within SR or outside, simply changing your funding address between every new deposit to your account hides you among every other entry into the block chains. your a ghost
SILKROAD ISN'T GOING ANYWHERE AND IS SAFE TO USE
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: longhair_Bri]
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Re: Are Authorities Closing In On the Online Drug Market Silk Road? [Re: longhair_Bri]
#16625203 - 07/31/12 11:32 PM (9 months, 12 days ago) |
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Obviously what this article proves is that gawkers intent was to bring down the silk road by exposing the site with they're first article. Fuck you gawker. The silk road is still alive
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