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 gulper2323
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 Help with Liberty Cap identification 
#16395227 - 06/17/12 03:26 PM (11 months, 1 day ago) |
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Earlier today while I was walking I ran into a couple of mushrooms which I thought looked like liberty caps. After bringing them home to check them out on the internet I found everything about the mushrooms seemed to indicate that they were liberty caps (same shape cap that is a very light brown in colour, brown spore print, moist/slimey texture cap while wet, etc) except for the stem seems to be wrong for them. The stem for some of them is too short (but I think that could be too short because I picked them early as the mushrooms with shorter stems also have smaller caps) and the stem is also too thick (4-5mm in diameter). So I was wondering is there still a chance the mushrooms are liberty caps with the stem being slightly wrong for them or do I have look-a-likes?
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Re: Help with Liberty Cap identification [Re: gulper2323]
#16395268 - 06/17/12 03:34 PM (11 months, 1 day ago) |
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Is it bruising blue?
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Re: Help with Liberty Cap identification [Re: 5is]
#16395296 - 06/17/12 03:42 PM (11 months, 1 day ago) |
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Post some pics. Are the gills a purple color? The spores should have a purple tint to them, so if yours are completely brown, I don't think they are P. semilanceata.
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Re: Help with Liberty Cap identification [Re: gulper2323]
#16395323 - 06/17/12 03:51 PM (11 months, 1 day ago) |
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Where in the world are you located?
Without pictures it is hard to say anything about your find.
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Re: Help with Liberty Cap identification [Re: Anglerfish]
#16395649 - 06/17/12 05:15 PM (11 months, 23 hours ago) |
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No bruising but I thought Liberty Caps didn't bruise. Here's a link to the photos http://s1149.photobucket.com/albums/o592/gulper2323/
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Re: Help with Liberty Cap identification [Re: gulper2323]
#16395655 - 06/17/12 05:17 PM (11 months, 23 hours ago) |
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That's not a liberty cap- sorry.
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Re: Help with Liberty Cap identification [Re: hungrygoldfish]
#16395712 - 06/17/12 05:39 PM (11 months, 23 hours ago) |
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Yeah actually had my doubts when I took them out to take pictures, well at least mushrooms have return  so is there advice you can give me for next time to help score some better results? Anything helpful will be deeply appreciated.
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Re: Help with Liberty Cap identification [Re: gulper2323]
#16395744 - 06/17/12 05:50 PM (11 months, 23 hours ago) |
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It is dependent on your location.
Most liberty caps will show minimal to no blue bruising, but in some
specimens it can be visible especially at the base of the stem, sometimes
also prominent upwards along the stem and even on the cap. I usually
see it very early or very late in season.
Edited by Anglerfish (06/17/12 05:55 PM)
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Re: Help with Liberty Cap identification [Re: Anglerfish]
#16395755 - 06/17/12 05:53 PM (11 months, 23 hours ago) |
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Ireland
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Re: Help with Liberty Cap identification [Re: gulper2323]
#16395761 - 06/17/12 05:54 PM (11 months, 23 hours ago) |
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Quote:
gulper2323 said:
Ireland
You will most likely have to wait another couple of months.
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Re: Help with Liberty Cap identification [Re: Anglerfish]
#16395793 - 06/17/12 06:02 PM (11 months, 23 hours ago) |
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Right I will keep that in mind but keep a lookout for them after rainy also, you never know
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Re: Help with Liberty Cap identification [Re: gulper2323]
#16395868 - 06/17/12 06:27 PM (11 months, 22 hours ago) |
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As others have said, not Libs.
But I'm surprised nobody's found any in UK/Ireland this summer - It's been very Autumnal 'round these parts recently. Might have a look at the end of the month. I think one or two people found a handful last June. Fingers crossed.
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Re: Help with Liberty Cap identification [Re: Psilocypher]
#16395977 - 06/17/12 07:11 PM (11 months, 22 hours ago) |
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I found some at the end of June last year in Cheshire, I went back to the field the other day to check but they were full of really aggressive cows and I couldn't get close...maybe heading out to high peak over the next week or so to check there but temps have been quite warm and fluctuating, well in this part of the peaks anyway.
You could possible be finding some in Ireland over the next month or so if you head high up (altitude is the key for this time of year as high up it's cooler).
For now you can get reading the UK magic mushroom thread 2011 from last year.
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Re: Help with Liberty Cap identification [Re: Anglerfish]
#16420058 - 06/22/12 01:30 PM (10 months, 27 days ago) |
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Hi, Being new to this forum, and mushroom identification, I need to ask for a heads up and some tips to find the link illusive liberty cap.
I live in northwest england, the weather here has been pretty grim raining for literally a week, with some break throughs of sunshine. its warm not to cold.
I am surrounded by fields of green long grass, bowling greens, golf courses and the likes etc, but not much cattle (for fertile turds).
I am aware that the usual lib season, is usually in autumn around end of august, September October and November, but due to the conditions of the weather here is it possible that libs will start popping through with all this rain and dampness?
As youve probably gathered I dont fully know what am talking about and really i cant be arsed waiting till autumn, though i have seen posts and heard of people talking about if your lucky you could get them in july.
Would someone with the knowledge please supply me with some in depth results for my question and list the PERFECT weather conditions, time of year and etc etc, so ill finish off by asking if someone can make my quest for the little french helmets a little easier and equip me with the sufficient tactics.
I Thank you all in advance!
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Re: Help with Liberty Cap identification [Re: The_Fat_Gnome]
#16420345 - 06/22/12 02:46 PM (10 months, 27 days ago) |
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It's wet but it's still a bit warm for libs (even higher up)...which county in the NW are you based in?
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Re: Help with Liberty Cap identification [Re: hungrygoldfish]
#16420474 - 06/22/12 03:21 PM (10 months, 27 days ago) |
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Ah fair enough thanks though!, so the conditions have to be 'Cold and Wet?, what would u say a typical location would be??
i went out for an hour this afternoon, and picked a fair selection of the local mushrooms growing on the closest field, super common (i think, pretty sure though)
I know none of these are libs, but thought that I would put this account to use and see if anyone could Identify some just for common knowledge purposes really!
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Heres the pictures:
     
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Re: Help with Liberty Cap identification [Re: The_Fat_Gnome]
#16473248 - 07/03/12 02:59 AM (10 months, 16 days ago) |
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Can I bump this thread... I'd like to know the ID of those mushies too, if anyone knows.
I'm planning to go on my first mushroom hunt this Sep/Oct.
And it's been raining here since March, maybe the libs might come out a bit early?
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Re: Help with Liberty Cap identification [Re: igCorcaigh]
#16473306 - 07/03/12 03:17 AM (10 months, 16 days ago) |
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I'd have to say panaeolus foenisecii sorry man thats the common lawn mushroom its not psychoactive
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Re: Help with Liberty Cap identification [Re: igCorcaigh]
#16473308 - 07/03/12 03:17 AM (10 months, 16 days ago) |
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It is really hard to pinpoint such a group of diverse little mushrooms
wihtout a clear shot of the gills. Also very helpful would be shots of
the mushrooms growing in their habitat.
One thing is sure though, there is not one liberty cap or any other
active species there. However, several of them are known to grow
in the same habitats as lib caps, so he should be looking out for
this spot later.
Edit: Coffee in the morning helps. I guess Birdbrain92 is right,
there is Panaeolina foenisecii, a possible Stropharia semiglobata,
a Conocybe sp. (C. albipes most likely) and perhaps also a Panaeolus sp.
(As well a couple that definitely would need gill shots - if this request
wasn't ten days old.)
Edited by Anglerfish (07/03/12 03:28 AM)
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Re: Help with Liberty Cap identification [Re: Anglerfish]
#16473576 - 07/03/12 05:12 AM (10 months, 16 days ago) |
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Heres some pictures of libs I picked last year, it will help you when identifying may be.
Also your selection doesn't look like libs to me (I'm no expert). I'd also agree with that not all libs bruise blue. I'd say only 10% of what I picked bruised blue at the stem, however they were definitely all magical 
I find it easier to pick them after rain, because then they're a nice golden brown. When they start turning white I always get them confused with the mushrooms you've picked as they're similarities.
Wait 2 months, then you'll find libs in abundance, good luck!
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Re: Help with Liberty Cap identification [Re: Jamie]
#16473642 - 07/03/12 05:51 AM (10 months, 16 days ago) |
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Quote:
Jamie said:
I find it easier to pick them after rain, because then they're a nice golden brown. When they start turning white I always get them confused with the mushrooms you've picked as they're similarities.
If you're in doubt and they aren't baked completely cracker dry by the sun
you could try moistening the cap and check for the separable gelatinous
pellicle. Other than that I agree, I also prefer hunting when it is still really
humid after a rain shower, overcast early mornings with slight fog and
dew drops in the grass.
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Re: Help with Liberty Cap identification [Re: Jamie]
#16754471 - 08/29/12 04:00 PM (8 months, 21 days ago) |
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Awesome thanks for your input guys. I was aware that I didnt have any active shrooms in that collection and that they were common lawn / garden mushrooms. I was just wondering what they were!
Also, I havent been active on here really due to it being out of season for libs. but now were getting closer to autumn and the shit weather is drawing in its time to keep an eye out on those fields! Ill post some results once they have been reaped.
One last thing, Ive heard that there is a species that looks similar to libs but just have a different coloured stem and ive been warned not to pick these. what colour should I be looking for? and what should I avoid.
TFG.
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