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 Black_Sunset
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 Anti-Slut Attitude 
#16203321 - 05/09/12 04:49 AM (1 year, 14 days ago) |
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What is the deal with people hating on "sluts?" There is this huge negative stereotype around grrls who like to have lots of sex/partners or dress in attractive clothing. It is probably the most negative thing I hear, and it's all day. It's just as bad as racism.
I've always been attracted to "sluts" for the reason that they are so sexually open and mature. Being with a person who is timid and not open to sex is so close minded and BORING. It's this entire cultural attitude we have in America. It says a lot to me when someone says how they "don't give head" or "that's disgusting." I love to tongue a chick's ass, but when people find out they can't believe I would do that.
I get that some people might not like to lick butt holes but it seems like people don't even think for themselves and just keep it so fucking PC. Have fun doing missionary for the rest of your life while we get high and fuck like you wish you did
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I'm not so much anti it as just not a fan of sluts, I don't think its not wrong per se (in most cases), but its just not right. I have had many-a-fucken-heavy trips and a fair few of my trips centred around morals, the meaning of life, and enlightenment; some of them to do with sex. Basically, from my trips, I realised that this life is about gaining enlightenment, about spending as much time as possible trying to figure out this world, to contribute to this universe. We were given this brain for a reason. I see that sex is just as bad as consumerism, it is a basic act that achieves fuck all but making you feel good/better, people become reliant on it and it becomes a major focal point in their life, distracting them. Revolving your life around sex is just as bad as revolving your life around something like sport, gossip, reality TV shows; it distracts you from achieving what you can. Repressing the beast can be seen as an act of realising your two paths and taking the one that leads to intellectual and spiritual rewards, not simpling spending your life "muh-dik'n" anything with a hole, or two, or three, or more. Of course you've got to keep the beast fed, but not let it become a raging fiend of blind fervor.
But, I have the sex drive of 10 men and my gf is just as bad, we do it like they do on the Animal Planet, but way worse, so I'm a complete hypocrite. Plus I've probably just taken a few trips too many.
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Enjoywho
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It's retarded
If there weren't sluts
Who would we bang?
The only people who hate on people for enjoying their sexuality
Is people who don't get any ass
Losers
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Crystal G
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Re: Anti-Slut Attitude [Re: Enjoywho]
#16203946 - 05/09/12 11:16 AM (1 year, 14 days ago) |
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This is the best way to pick a fight with me if we are dating or friends, is by slut shaming.
When I'm just starting to go out with somebody, if I even hear them utter them utter or write the word slut, nasty hoe, whore, or whatever, I will never go out on another date again. I do not date guys who are judgmental, and I prefer guys who are "sex-positive."
Mostly because the guys and girls pointing the finger are hypocritical d bags that are no better than the very sluts they seem to be shaming.
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Men who have a fear of women who exert control of their sexualities, know that they wouldn't be able to control or easily manipulate women who are aggressive, dominant, or defiant. Women who refuse to passively cooperate or adhere to stereotypical gender roles. So they use social stigma and social shame and call us "sluts" to try to implant fear and guilt in us, in an effort to control and coerce our behaviors. It is a completely selfish philosophy that stems from the belief that they OWN women.
Thus, me taking control of my sexuality is my big way of saying "FUCK YOU" to the institution, and another "FUCK YOU" to the patriarchy!  
Edited by Crystal G (05/09/12 11:47 AM)
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 sadsappysucker
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Slut shaming really pisses me off, because it's always a double standard (I've met my fair share of "slutty" men and no one blinked an eye) and it's their life to live as they please. What pisses me off more than anything though are other women slut shaming women. As women, we should be trying to bring each other up and feel empowerment with our bodies. Nothing wrong with being sexually open and active.
Also wanted to say that some girls that aren't considered "sluts" can still be sexually open and mature. On paper, I look like your girl next door, but in bed I am a freak.
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HarveyWalbanger
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The word slut was most likely invented by another woman. You'd have to ask them why they're jealous and felt they needed a hateful word to describe promiscuous women with.
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Crystal G
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HarveyWalbanger said:
The word slut was most likely invented by another woman. You'd have to ask them why they're jealous and felt they needed a hateful word to describe promiscuous women with.
Most likely slut was a word invented by men, as men have historically felt a compulsive need to control women's sexuality. That's all that word really is, is a word that is intended to shame a woman's control and exertion of her sexual being. Women who have later used that word have internalized the notion of female purity, and try to disassociate themselves from women who are lacking in this purity.
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Men who have a fear of women who exert control of their sexualities, know that they wouldn't be able to control or easily manipulate women who are aggressive, dominant, or defiant. Women who refuse to passively cooperate or adhere to stereotypical gender roles. So they use social stigma and social shame and call us "sluts" to try to implant fear and guilt in us, in an effort to control and coerce our behaviors. It is a completely selfish philosophy that stems from the belief that they OWN women.
Thus, me taking control of my sexuality is my big way of saying "FUCK YOU" to the institution, and another "FUCK YOU" to the patriarchy!
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Lynnch
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Tbh, I've never really seen it beside's dbags trolling here, or out of the mouths of religious nutbags.
The worst I usually hear is 'Yea, she's fucked a lot of dudes, but she's hot so  '
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HarveyWalbanger
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Re: Anti-Slut Attitude [Re: Crystal G] 2
#16204228 - 05/09/12 12:51 PM (1 year, 14 days ago) |
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Most likely slut was a word invented by men, as men have historically felt a compulsive need to control women's sexuality. That's all that word really is, is a word that is intended to shame a woman's control and exertion of her sexual being.
Early man's prime motivating factor is to reproduce. IE: have sex with her and successfully pass on one's genes. Calling her a slut does not help this.
Early women's most motivating factor was security. Inventing the social stigma of being a "slut", and labeling the most promiscuous women with it does help this. Less competition.
Women have everything to gain from the derogatory nature of this word, and guys get nothing but word of mouth on which one's easy. (which isnt really necessary. we can tell)
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sadsappysucker
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Re: Anti-Slut Attitude [Re: Lynnch]
#16204237 - 05/09/12 12:55 PM (1 year, 14 days ago) |
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Everyone's experience is different, but I've heard it used a few times and in terms of 'she's fucked a lot of dudes, bitch is a dirty slut.' Mostly it is from (religious) conservatives though. The worst is when a girl gets raped and people throw the term slut around to place blame on the victim. If you've never been to one, you should check out Slut Walk.
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Lynnch
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I dunno, a lot of times guys will say 'Ya she's a total slut dude, go for it!' Now is that a positive or a negative?
Blaming the victims of rape... pisses me off to say the least.
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sadsappysucker
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Re: Anti-Slut Attitude [Re: Lynnch]
#16204314 - 05/09/12 01:17 PM (1 year, 14 days ago) |
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I'm not a guy, so maybe they are hesitant to say that shit around me, but in that case I'd say it was a guy just looking to find an easy (easy as in he doesn't want to put in any effort, just casual sex) lay. I guess some girls end up with the reputation of being "easy" or a "slut" if they are known to have had a lot of partners. I'm inclined to say it's a negative, but if it's consensual between the two parties that it's just a casual fuck than I don't see the harm. I hope that makes sense.
Edit for clarity.
Edited by sadsappysucker (05/09/12 01:17 PM)
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Lynnch
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See thats the thing, it's girls that don't want the reputation of being easy, where guys might actually be attracted to it
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sadsappysucker
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Re: Anti-Slut Attitude [Re: Lynnch]
#16204413 - 05/09/12 01:41 PM (1 year, 14 days ago) |
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I'm sure there are some girls that enjoy that reputation. I know I enjoy my reputation of not being easy. I've had guys tell me they think it's sexy that I've had so few partners. Goes both ways.
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Crystal G
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Quote:
HarveyWalbanger said:
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Most likely slut was a word invented by men, as men have historically felt a compulsive need to control women's sexuality. That's all that word really is, is a word that is intended to shame a woman's control and exertion of her sexual being.
Early man's prime motivating factor is to reproduce. IE: have sex with her and successfully pass on one's genes. Calling her a slut does not help this.
Early women's most motivating factor was security. Inventing the social stigma of being a "slut", and labeling the most promiscuous women with it does help this. Less competition.
Women have everything to gain from the derogatory nature of this word, and guys get nothing but word of mouth on which one's easy. (which isnt really necessary. we can tell)
You're referring to the caveman time when language was still primitive and the word slut didn't even exist. The word slut is a variation of some similar words that have only been existing from several centuries ago. This was back when marriage was existing and wives were eixpected to be monogamous. Hence the word "slut" was used as a means of controlling womens sexuality.
If you take a look at fundamentalist islamic countries, the men use very similar tactics of controlling everything they can about women. Womens chastity historically plays an integral role in boosting a mans respect, honor, ego, and status in society. Hence why I will not date a man who uses the word "slut" (or other variations) as a pejorative.
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Men who have a fear of women who exert control of their sexualities, know that they wouldn't be able to control or easily manipulate women who are aggressive, dominant, or defiant. Women who refuse to passively cooperate or adhere to stereotypical gender roles. So they use social stigma and social shame and call us "sluts" to try to implant fear and guilt in us, in an effort to control and coerce our behaviors. It is a completely selfish philosophy that stems from the belief that they OWN women.
Thus, me taking control of my sexuality is my big way of saying "FUCK YOU" to the institution, and another "FUCK YOU" to the patriarchy!
Edited by Crystal G (05/09/12 04:01 PM)
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Black_Sunset
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Re: Anti-Slut Attitude [Re: Crystal G] 1
#16207526 - 05/10/12 12:10 AM (1 year, 13 days ago) |
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Thanks guys I really appreciate the input. My friend was bashed right in front of me by some fuckhead douchebag - I was so livid!
I come from San Francisco but live in a red county which makes it easy to see differences in culture. I really believe we need to stop the negativity around "sluts" and homosexuality, but that's a different topic.
Also kinda off topic, our sex culture is making us all psychotic. Every grrl I meet is concerned about their appearance and how other people view their promiscuity. Every grrl I have been with has either had issues either worrying about eating too much and getting fat, their appearance to others, eating in front of me or just being naked. I hope everyone can just be a little more conscious with their efforts and make sure people know that they are beautiful.
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Re: Anti-Slut Attitude [Re: Crystal G]
#16207740 - 05/10/12 12:51 AM (1 year, 13 days ago) |
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Crystal G said:
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HarveyWalbanger said:
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Most likely slut was a word invented by men, as men have historically felt a compulsive need to control women's sexuality. That's all that word really is, is a word that is intended to shame a woman's control and exertion of her sexual being.
Early man's prime motivating factor is to reproduce. IE: have sex with her and successfully pass on one's genes. Calling her a slut does not help this.
Early women's most motivating factor was security. Inventing the social stigma of being a "slut", and labeling the most promiscuous women with it does help this. Less competition.
Women have everything to gain from the derogatory nature of this word, and guys get nothing but word of mouth on which one's easy. (which isnt really necessary. we can tell)
You're referring to the caveman time when language was still primitive and the word slut didn't even exist. The word slut is a variation of some similar words that have only been existing from several centuries ago. This was back when marriage was existing and wives were eixpected to be monogamous. Hence the word "slut" was used as a means of controlling womens sexuality.
If you take a look at fundamentalist islamic countries, the men use very similar tactics of controlling everything they can about women. Womens chastity historically plays an integral role in boosting a mans respect, honor, ego, and status in society. Hence why I will not date a man who uses the word "slut" (or other variations) as a pejorative.
well your obviously a slut. i usually only notice the history of something when i partake in it
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Crystal G
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Black_Sunset said:
Thanks guys I really appreciate the input. My friend was bashed right in front of me by some fuckhead douchebag - I was so livid!
I come from San Francisco but live in a red county which makes it easy to see differences in culture. I really believe we need to stop the negativity around "sluts" and homosexuality, but that's a different topic.
Also kinda off topic, our sex culture is making us all psychotic. Every grrl I meet is concerned about their appearance and how other people view their promiscuity. Every grrl I have been with has either had issues either worrying about eating too much and getting fat, their appearance to others, eating in front of me or just being naked. I hope everyone can just be a little more conscious with their efforts and make sure people know that they are beautiful.
Hmm. I definitely do know that I have body dysmorphia, but I'm not at all insecure about how I look and feel completely comfortable being naked or not wearing makeup in front of others.
I know it might sound paradoxical, because when people think of patients with body dysmorphia, they typically think of people who are very insecure and have low self-esteem. But in actuality, many people with body dysmorphic disorder are self-confident and love how they look. Bodybuilders are the PERFECT example of somebody with body dysmorphia who is proud of how they look. They constantly think they are puny and weak and tiny, and constantly criticize their looks, when in fact they are huge, buff, and attractive. But at the same time they are in love with how they look, are constantly checking themselves out in the mirror, and are constantly seeking ways to improve their appearance.
I am incredibly and obsessively concerned about my appearance and am always criticizing how I look, but at the same time I feel very confident about my looks and am by no means ashamed or ever doubt myself. I love getting naked and putting myself out there. People with body dysmorphia, we are simply perfectionists by nature. We see something beautiful and tweak it and modify it to make it more and more attractive. Not all people who are overly concerned with their appearance are insecure or suffer from low self-esteem.
I do know the type of women you are talking about though, and I think that's a shame that they cannot be comfortable or be themselves around other people, especially if that person is their loved one. But this is exactly the reason that I believe women need to get more involved with sports and find a rigorous talent that they are good at--something that is fucking cool and shows what a badass they are, like marksmanship or rock-climbing or wakeboarding or paintballing or jiujitsu... Something that is typically seen as a "boy's sport," that the women can really kick ass at, and feel great about achieving and doing.
Being physically active is a HUGE self-esteem booster for women. It really helps to break them out of their shell and develop their confidence. Especially if they are the type that is constantly second-guessing themselves, and have this fragility and insecurity about not being good enough in a myriad of ways. Engaging in physically strong activity will transform them from being timid and passive to dominant and assertive. I honestly believe that all women should become physically fit and active and adept at sports, and I guarantee you would see every single woman's self-esteem rise significantly if they did.
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well your obviously a slut. i usually only notice the history of something when i partake in it
Um, what? So if I know about the history of the Nazi's, does that make me a Nazi too?  I read extensively about history because it was related to my main concentration of study, and I actually like learning, rather than wallowing in ignorance.
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Men who have a fear of women who exert control of their sexualities, know that they wouldn't be able to control or easily manipulate women who are aggressive, dominant, or defiant. Women who refuse to passively cooperate or adhere to stereotypical gender roles. So they use social stigma and social shame and call us "sluts" to try to implant fear and guilt in us, in an effort to control and coerce our behaviors. It is a completely selfish philosophy that stems from the belief that they OWN women.
Thus, me taking control of my sexuality is my big way of saying "FUCK YOU" to the institution, and another "FUCK YOU" to the patriarchy!
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Re: Anti-Slut Attitude [Re: Crystal G]
#16207764 - 05/10/12 12:57 AM (1 year, 13 days ago) |
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Touché..
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whether you LIKE IT or NOT, Crystal G.
you are a slut.
Slut or slattern is a term applied to an individual who is considered to have loose sexual morals or who is sexually promiscuous. The term is generally pejorative and most often applied to women as an insult or offensive term of disparagement, meaning "dirty or slovenly."[2] However some women have demonstrated saying they're proud of being "sluts", and have given it a positive connotation.
your just a proud slut
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