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* Tasmania season 2012 * 2
#16022433 - 03/31/12 03:56 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Hi All,
Not the usual start to the Tas season as most people expect P. subaeruginosa pics, but today I found some P. semilanceata while out hiking around.
Found at the the same site as last two years, at the back of a cattle farm in southern tasmania, short to longish grass and lots of moss, south facing paddock, in top shady corner. about 400 - 450 ft above sea level altitude, a little dew, but im thinking only enough, as the caps are a little distorted.
Hopefully over the next few weeks as it gets colder and wetter, i'll be able to photograph some better samples.
These three look a bit distorted, but they have the sticky hygrophanous cap with a viscous layer that can be peeled off:
and the blue staining at the base of the stem:

Here is the thread i started two years ago: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12569847#12569847
These P. semilanceata were from the same location.
Hope fully more pics to come, and be nice to see some P. subaeruginosa to photograph too.
I managed to find a heap of nice Agarics as well, so have made up a nice wild mushroom soup for dinner. Damn it smells amazing.
Cheers, Obtuse.
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: obtuse]
#16022498 - 03/31/12 04:23 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Great stuff obtuse, it's good to see the thread kicked off with something different.
Best of luck for the season.
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: obtuse]
#16026302 - 03/31/12 10:56 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Awesome finds obtuse 
It's great to see some Aussie libs. They don't get posted here very often.
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: TimmiT]
#16026935 - 04/01/12 01:30 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: obtuse]
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Separable gelatinous pellicle, very nice
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Hi guys,
Fellow Taswegian here, finally taking the plunge into psychedelics after years of apprehension and research...
I realise there is no chance of me finding out any specific locations on here, I have a mate who said he would take me hunting when the time comes but other than him I don't really know anybody as the majority of my friends have disowned me since I decided I was taking a different Journey to the templated mainstream...
Basically I just wanted to introduce myself and say Hi! 
And hopefully get in contact with some other like-minded locals, because my popularity certainly has taken a downward spiral over the last few months, I'm sure there would be a few of you who understand and know that 'look' you get when you start talking outside the 'box of comfort'...
Also after any tips on when, roughly where and anything else handy to know on finding mushrooms in Tassie (I'm in the Northern region). It looks like this is going to be the year I finally take the plunge so I thought I would join up and get in on some more solid research before I go hunting.
Anyway I think I am starting to ramble now so I'll leave this as is.
Many thanks for taking the time to read this and any helpful responses are very muchly appreciated.
Looking forward to speaking with you all 
Peace P
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: Xitnadp]
#16054387 - 04/06/12 10:36 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Hello fellow Tasmanians 
I'm blessed
Just wanted to say that I am SO HAPPY that the season is upon us. This will be my first REAL attempt at hunting & im already starting to look around. So far, I've found 3 different types of mushrooms in the last few weeks, but i believe they weren't active (im only looking for subs to start off with). still, i can't wait!!!!!
Buying a camera soon, so i can contribute to this awesome site.
Just a small update (9/4/12)
I've been out again, but still found nothing 
come on rain and temps, DO your thing!!!!!
Edited by blessed (04/10/12 10:17 AM)
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: blessed]
#16056917 - 04/07/12 03:01 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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wont be long rain is predicted from tuesday on. a good solid 3 days rain and my patchs will be blooming cant wait. going to do and extractin again this year as is was something special when smoked! anyway peac happy hunting il chuck some flicks up whehn they pop up!
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I mamaged to snag a Tasmanian sub print last time you boys were around and setting to expanding mycelium and introducing to the UK as we speak.

Hopefully a litle bit of your magic can call this side of the globe a home from home sometime in the future!

I'll be keeping this thread close to my heart, believe! 
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UK Explorer said: I mamaged to snag a Tasmanian sub print last time you boys were around and setting to expanding mycelium and introducing to the UK as we speak.

Hopefully a litle bit of your magic can call this side of the globe a home from home sometime in the future!

I'll be keeping this thread close to my heart, believe! 
From this little beaut:

That last picture is one of the subs I found last year. I assume I traded you a print?
Good to see you got some mycelium happening. Hopefully you get some fruits soon enough.
I am gonna go check one of my patches in about an hour. Not really expecting anything yet, but it's worth a shot.
EDIT: Just got back. Nothing to be found, only 3 inactives. Still fairly dry where I went, but I reckon in the next fortnight or so things should get better.
Edited by Nevermind (04/07/12 09:16 PM)
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: Nevermind]
#16064046 - 04/09/12 06:28 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Good work as usual obtuse. I had a look at a well known spot last weekend but no luck. Just managed to get a leech on my arm had a look near a pub in a paddock lots of non actives which usually tells me subs arnt far away. Hope I am lucky enough to find some liberty caps this year. How was the potency BTW compared to subs
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: Nevermind]
#16064050 - 04/09/12 06:33 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Hi All,
Had my first Tassie hunt today after a fair bit of rain and now freezing temperatures. Found a very nice variety of non-actives in my sweetspots, some of which are below. Feel free to ID some, I'd be interested in knowing what I picked up! I am 99% sure non are active, some look alike but compared to the subs I found last year have different gill colours etc. Bring on a big Tassie winter!





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I have a gut feeling there might be some growth. I will go see today...
{edit} went for a walk around mt wellington area, saw just a few pins and 3 or 4 grown subs. The dense areas I know of haven't started fruiting yet.

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Edited by Slavich (04/10/12 04:42 AM)
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: Slavich]
#16079398 - 04/12/12 11:45 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Hello All 
just an update
I've been looking anywhere & everywhere i believe actives could be found, even had a person give me that "what's he doing?" look LOL but anyway, no luck whatsoever. I did for a moment think that i may have found some liberty caps ( they looked similar ( the caps did ) to the ones you found obtuse ) but, the spore colour was black and the stems were much shorter, oh well. Anyway, since there has been no ...., im gonna give up for a little while.
btw, buying a camera this weekend. Any suggestions on a good one to get? I'm hoping to get one small in size (for easy carrying), but big on quality*. *Especially for shooting our favorite little friends in the wild any suggestions would be great 
Thanks and Cya soon
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: blessed]
#16080994 - 04/12/12 05:50 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Hey buddy I think its a little while a way till it really kicks in too, I can think of one spot though which should b ready by end of April to suggest a camera I have a cannon which is great. I have a friend who works for stallards who told me to buy a brand which just produces cameras as they as usually better picture quality than other brands. So like a Kodak ,cannon, stay away from Fuji, pentax though happy hunting!
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Hey Frenchy,
None of what you have pictured is Psilocybe.
I would really strongly suggest you learn very well how to tell things apart. Things like Cortinarius eartoxicus and Galerina patagonica are scarily similar to Psilocybe subaeruginosa.
Cheers
Edit: BTW I saw both P. subaeruginosa and P. semilanceata in the Blue Tier area over Easter, so they're getting going.
Edited by Tas75 (04/13/12 01:01 AM)
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: Tas75]
#16083316 - 04/13/12 04:06 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Hey Tas75,
Yeah I knew none of them were active, I was just showing some inactives in my area for the fun of it. But thanks though - I've mistaken galerina for subs before! That's awesome about the blue tier activity, I'm on the NW coast unfortunately.. but hopefully I find some action soon!
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: Tas75]
#16083325 - 04/13/12 04:22 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Went for some walks with the missus at Mt Field today. Saw one sub, a real looker. Definitely getting closer to season, can't wait!
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: scrogman]
#16084122 - 04/13/12 11:31 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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scrogman said: Hey buddy I think its a little while a way till it really kicks in too, I can think of one spot though which should b ready by end of April to suggest a camera I have a cannon which is great. I have a friend who works for stallards who told me to buy a brand which just produces cameras as they as usually better picture quality than other brands. So like a Kodak ,cannon, stay away from Fuji, pentax though happy hunting!
Hello scrogman 
Thanks for the advice, much appreciated 
With your words of advice i went shopping today and got myself a Cannon IXUS 220 HS Was told by a few people that it's a great camera and now i have one  Will test it out soon with a shot of an inactive soon (i hope), i'll then show you all the results.
Again thanks for the helpful advice scrogman 
Cya
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UK Explorer said: I mamaged to snag a Tasmanian sub print last time you boys were around and setting to expanding mycelium and introducing to the UK as we speak.

Hopefully a litle bit of your magic can call this side of the globe a home from home sometime in the future!

I'll be keeping this thread close to my heart, believe! 
From this little beaut:

Great stuff man best of luck with it.
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: blessed]
#16094094 - 04/15/12 06:27 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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no worries with the advice buddy, i have a similar camera and its awesome no signs of pins in my area yet but this time next month should be right in the thick of it! happy hunting!
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: obtuse]
#16094777 - 04/15/12 09:32 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Well, they're certainly popping up around the place now. I saw several flushes ranging from pins only to fully open specimens, and the odd old one about as well.
Enjoy!
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: Tas75]
#16094813 - 04/15/12 09:42 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Hopefully over the next few weeks as it gets colder and wetter, i'll be able to photograph some better samples.
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Hello All 
Here's two shots taken from my new camera;

When i saw the second one from afar, i thought that i had found an active, but it wasn't Still, it won't be long 
btw, after getting this camera (Cannon IXUS 220 HS) ( primarily for mushrooms ), i learned that there is a updated model, it's the Cannon IXUS 230 HS. It has a wider lens 28mm (my camera 24mm) and larger optical zoom X8 (my camera X5) (Also has some minor improvements over the 220). Oh well.
Anyway, hope the photo's are of good enough quality
Cya later
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: blessed]
#16099060 - 04/16/12 09:46 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Is the 2nd photo a Gymnopilus species?
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: suchen]
#16099545 - 04/16/12 11:27 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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hey guys. Its certainly been a few years since Ive been a member on here, I couldnt even remember my old account. Just came back from a hunt today. within the southern midlands area. GOOD RESULTS from my private patch. I collected around 20 specimens. I found dozens of pin heads, many semi mature specimens, some mature ones, and also some old ones, probably from the rain a good week ago. A few warm days coming up tommrow I think, might put a little hold on the season, but its definatly started anyway. If there is anyone from the southern region who would like to catch up, PM me, I would like a tripper to meet as I dont have a fellow tripper anymore... Tell me off for my post-dont really care... anyway, regards to all you Tassie peeps who are keen for the season. Regards
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. A few warm days coming up tommrow I think, might put a little hold on the season, but its definatly started anyway. If there is anyone from the southern region who would like to catch up, PM me, I would like a tripper to meet as I dont have a fellow tripper anymore... Tell me off for my post-dont really care...
Your post almost violates the rules because we don't allow asking for hunting partners. But you never said you wanted to hunt mushrooms or do anything illegal, so its perfectly fine.
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Nice to see Tassie is popping up with actives! Might have to go for a walk this weekend
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pelhams_bliss_tas said: ... I collected around 20 specimens. I found dozens of pin heads, many semi mature specimens, some mature ones, and also some old ones, probably from the rain a good week ago...
What species? P. subaeruginosa? I've been seeing both that and P. semilanceata around. I also saw a nice ergot (Claviceps purpurea) infestation on ryegrass and some native grasses in southern Tasmania yesterday. I took a photo, I'll post it when I remember to bring my camera to a computer!
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: suchen]
#16102821 - 04/17/12 07:07 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Hello 
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suchen said: Is the 2nd photo a Gymnopilus species?
Hi suchen, I don't know? sorry
Btw (To All)
1. This is my first year hunting, and as of right............. Now, i am yet to find my first sub 
2. I am also relatively new to this site and have not much experience in forums, so, apologise for amount of post thus far (including this one). And, due to my newness here, i'll be not only learning how to hunt (better), but how to properly use this site. your patience is greatly appreciated.
3. Is that mycelium in the first picture? (on this page, 4th post from top) I ask cause if so, HALLELUJAH, mycelium = Actives??? Yes???? No????
please say yes , please say YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
4. My next post will be of my first find, i don't want to add anymore post that don't have "The Goods"
Thanks for reading this, and to everyone reading this thread GOOD LUCK with your hunts this year. If these special mushrooms are as amazing to you?, as they are to me, then I KNOW how happy you will be once you find them 
Until my first find, Cya all
have an awesome day!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: blessed]
#16103055 - 04/17/12 07:59 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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blessed said: 3. Is that mycelium in the first picture?
Yes!
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(on this page, 4th post from top) I ask cause if so, HALLELUJAH
Hallelujah!
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mycelium = Actives??? Yes???? No????
No!
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please say yes , please say YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No! No! No!
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: blessed]
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blessed said: Hello 
3. Is that mycelium in the first picture? (on this page, 4th post from top) I ask cause if so, HALLELUJAH, mycelium = Actives??? Yes???? No????
Like Alan said. For all intents and purposes all mushrooms and toadstools have mycelium, including those that can kill you.
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: Tas75] 1
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As promised, Claviceps purpurea growing on ryegrass (Lolium perenne) in Tasmania. It was a cold winter and a wet late summer, perfect conditions for ergot. I'd say 90% of ryegrass in the area I took the picture was infected, as well as a few other grasses.
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: Tas75]
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As promised, Claviceps purpurea growing on ryegrass (Lolium perenne) in Tasmania.
Nominated for pic of the month.
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: Tas75]
#16110039 - 04/19/12 05:09 AM (1 year, 30 days ago) |
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Tas75 said: As promised, Claviceps purpurea growing on ryegrass (Lolium perenne) in Tasmania.
Mate, that is awesome! Great pic and great find 
Thanks for sharing!
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: Tas75]
#16110080 - 04/19/12 05:41 AM (1 year, 30 days ago) |
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Came back to some I saw a few days ago today. It's been too dry and they were starting to dry out themselves... Here they are.
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: Slavich]
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so dry, il go check my spots in the morning... i have found ergots aswell tas75 and lots of them a couple years back, they are somewhat toxic if i remeber correctlyarn't they?
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Nice find Tas75.
While i havent found any myself, i have heard of them being around in tassie in the past.
Yes, Toxic, but the source of "St Antonys Fire". They contain a lot of ergotamines which are potent vasoconstrictors causing gangrene etc.
Also the source of LSA, from which Dr Hofmann had his little discovery.
Hope you all had a happy bicycle day yesterday.
Cheers, Obtuse.
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rechard.kid said: so dry, il go check my spots in the morning... i have found ergots aswell tas75 and lots of them a couple years back, they are somewhat toxic if i remeber correctlyarn't they?
I don't know... I suppose. The great ergotism outbreaks of the middle ages had all sorts of associated diseases like gangrene, etc... and I think ergot alkaloids are very strong vasoconstrictors, hence the gangrene, maybe..
I just like photographing them!
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Alan Rockefeller said:
Nominated for pic of the month.
Thanks Alan!
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: Tas75]
#16118351 - 04/21/12 12:39 AM (1 year, 29 days ago) |
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Had a few wet days, so I thought I better go for a look!
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found these today, only got some pics off my phone will upload some more later
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: scrogman]
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Looks like galerina bottom left and right, be careful
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: el roboto]
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Looks like waterlogged not galerina to me ?
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: scrogman]
#16118976 - 04/21/12 04:18 AM (1 year, 28 days ago) |
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found these today, only got some pics off my phone will upload some more later
They are all subs to me.
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Yeah its just an older one mate. I am pondering a trip with my girl tonight. Just got my cat put down today so dunno if I'll be in the right mind set.... Saw this pink brested bird while hunting today too  
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: scrogman]
#16119156 - 04/21/12 06:54 AM (1 year, 28 days ago) |
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Lots of rain coming up this week
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: shazzam]
#16122779 - 04/22/12 03:46 AM (1 year, 27 days ago) |
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can anyone explain the blue bruising on this stick? There seemed th be mycellium growing into it....
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: scrogman]
#16123276 - 04/22/12 07:45 AM (1 year, 27 days ago) |
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Hi Scrogman,
probably this bad boy:

Chlorociboria sp.
It stains the wood blue as it colonises it
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: obtuse]
#16123280 - 04/22/12 07:48 AM (1 year, 27 days ago) |
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obtuse said: Hi Scrogman,
probably this bad boy:

Chlorociboria sp.
It stains the wood blue as it colonises it
Cheers, Obtuse
Handy info man. 
I was about to reply and say perhaps a mold of some sort growing on it.
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Thanks obtuse it did look really cool.... Ended up lemon teking 6 fresh subs Saturdaynight and watching a couple sweet assed movies with girlfriend, contraband and limitless, was epic to say the least! Very potent shroomies. It's going to be a fun season
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: scrogman]
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^ I lemon tek'd 6 freshies on saturday night too haha! watched pick of destiny, very potent also.
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how ironic frenchy! p.o.d is a great trip movie! found a couple shrooms over the rd today all this rain is gonna set it of noicely
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: scrogman]
#16134767 - 04/24/12 09:04 PM (1 year, 25 days ago) |
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Went out about an hour ago to check the conditions at one of my patches, wasn't really expecting to find anything.
Ended up finding 18 subs in about 30 minutes. Looks like I've got enough for at least two trips.
Here's the pics from my phone. Not the greatest quality, but better than what I was expecting.
           
I've got em all in the oven now to dry. Gonna pick up some damprid a bit later on and I should be all set.
Edited by Nevermind (04/24/12 09:27 PM)
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: Nevermind]
#16135256 - 04/24/12 10:42 PM (1 year, 25 days ago) |
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Found this on the side of a walking track near Hobart today. Found in wet grass, near an old dead tree stump. No bruising just yet...
Sorry for the poor quality pics.
Any ideas?

**EDIT** I pinched it a few times further up the stem, right at the base of the cap where it was less water-logged. Definite blue bruising.
Edited by Nosf3ratu (04/24/12 11:37 PM)
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: Nosf3ratu]
#16135320 - 04/24/12 10:58 PM (1 year, 25 days ago) |
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Looks like P. Sub.
can see slight blue bruising on the stem, and on the edge of the cap and gills.
Perhaps a little water logged which is why it is not staining blue very well, but certainly looks like them to me.
If in doubt, chuck em out.
BTW just a little chemistry info, both Psilocybin and Psilocin degrade when heated.
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: Nosf3ratu]
#16135399 - 04/24/12 11:15 PM (1 year, 25 days ago) |
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Thanks Obtuse!
As you mentioned there may be slight bruising around the edge of the cap and gills. Possibly a bit on the stem. I'll wait longer and see.
The lighter was there for size reference haha, if that's what you are referring to about heat degradation?
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: Nosf3ratu]
#16136399 - 04/25/12 02:42 AM (1 year, 24 days ago) |
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1st post!
Anyway just wanted to start by saying I'm loving the tas season threads , spent the last hour looking through them.
I've mainly found what seems to be p cubenis in my past hunts, this year however I'd like to look for some other strains, Can anyone let me know the top few if not all the strains i can find in Tasmania? I have been looking for a list but haven't found anything good yet, It would just be good to know what shrooms i should be looking out for and how to id them.
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Actually i found this list while searching around.
Tasmania Gymnopilus sp. Panaeolus cinctulus Psilocybe alutacea Psilocybe australiana Psilocybe semilanceata Psilocybe subaeruginosa Psilocybe tasmaniana
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: Nosf3ratu]
#16136619 - 04/25/12 04:06 AM (1 year, 24 days ago) |
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Got motivated after my accidental find this morning and went for a hunt. Found these and a few others in the Huon region. Growing in damp, decaying plant material and dead wood.

Not 100% sure about any of them just yet. I'll see if they bruise blue, and probably put some better pictures up later.
Feel free to ID as I am still learning the ropes! Also are there any dangerous, blue-ing species that grow in Tasmania? *UPDATE* - No blue staining. They are lookalikes as suggested by Alan and obtuse.
Edited by Nosf3ratu (04/25/12 08:39 AM)
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: Nosf3ratu]
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Nosf3ratu said: Not 100% sure about any of them just yet. I'll see if they bruise blue, and probably put some better pictures up later.
I think you got some lookalikes.
Check the spore print color and lack of blue staining.
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Also are there any dangerous, blue-ing species that grow in Tasmania?
Not really, but sometimes Galerina marginata can appear to bruise blue to beginners.
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There are a couple of lists around, but the guilty parties found are
Psilocybe subaeruginosa (This is the predominant psilocybe species) Psilocybe semilaneata
hard to find: Psilocybe Alutacea Psilocybe Brunneoalbescens - inactive
Also possibly found in tas are: Psilocybe aucklandii, and Panaeolus subbalteatus
Of particular interest are the bluing species found in southern tasmania: Inocybe (unnamed sp GM Gates) blue-green base to stipe Pluteus (unnamed sp GM Gates) grey or brown with blueing stipe
A couple of points:
* Psilocybe cubensis does not occur in tasmania naturally, there are plenty of people who claim they are, but tasmania is way out of their climae range, likewise for Victoria and Southern NSW, so i find it odd.
* Psilocybe's "australiana", "tasmaniana", and "eucalypta", were all placed back within the subaeruginosa complex by Chang and Mills.
* Psilocybe semilanceata, has recently been found to have a much wider range than thought, recently having been found int he Huon Valley, around Mount Wellington, and a few other locations, not just Mount Field as previously reported by Guzman and Watling.
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: Nosf3ratu]
#16136672 - 04/25/12 04:30 AM (1 year, 24 days ago) |
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Not 100% sure about any of them just yet. I'll see if they bruise blue, and probably put some better pictures up later.
Feel free to ID as I am still learning the ropes! Also are there any dangerous, blue-ing species that grow in Tasmania?
Yep id concur with them being lookalikes. the bottom centre looks like a possibility, otherwise id say no to the lot.
Not aware of any dangerous blueing species that grow in tasmania. the blueing is a fairly good indicator, but also rely on proper identification of every specimen.
I noticed today a lot of lookalikes out this year, so a good year to be cautious i think.
[Edit:] Galerinas usually have an annulus on their stem, and their gills are dark yellow to a rusty brown colour, and sometimes have a flakey appeareance to their stems, but yes watch out for them, easily confused in a dark forest, or looking late in the day.
Cheers, Obtuse.
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Edited by obtuse (04/25/12 04:33 AM)
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: obtuse]
#16136693 - 04/25/12 04:37 AM (1 year, 24 days ago) |
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I found a Pan. cinct last year in a patch of subs. They're definitely about, but not too common or possibly just overlooked by a lot of people as they don't resemble the other types of actives we get down here.
Pretty sure I've still got the spore print from it somewhere...
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   found these at same spot as first shrooms today, very nice was surprised to find so many in one particular spot and see so many new pins.
what would these be? apologies for shit photo quality btw only had my phone again
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: scrogman]
#16136710 - 04/25/12 04:45 AM (1 year, 24 days ago) |
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scrogman said: what would these be?
Hypholoma fasciculare
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wow that was quick, thanks! they sound like nasty buggers. what about this one, found with some subs, obviously-not one 
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scrogman said: wow that was quick, thanks! they sound like nasty buggers. what about this one
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Hello all, I haven't posted here yet so I thought I'd introduce myself to the thread. This will be my first season of proper hunting and I intend to succeed! Wherever those elusive fungi may be hiding.
I've been hunting a few times over the last three weeks but I haven't found the good stuff, just some beautiful inactives. I think the temperatures are still a bit too warm in the North end of Tassie here.
I hope you're all having a good season, I'll leave you with some of the wonderful specimens I've found over the last several days. Hopefully my next post will feature some subs! 
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Well, the autumn season is well and truly here, and the rain helped heaps. I went for a photo session somewhere in southern Tasmania and came across heaps of interesting stuff:
A dark brown, large bolete, with grey pores, strongly bruising blue:

A bright red bolete with yellow pores:

A bright purple Cortinarius, maybe C. archeri:

A yellow mushroom... Cortinarius? Tricholoma?

A weird thing... Anthrus?

Ramaria?

Ubiquitous Amanita muscaria, all over the pine plantations... if only they carried Lactarius deliciosus instead!

Macrolepiota:

And of course a few thousand Psilocybe subaeruginosa... They would have been among the 5 or 6 most abundant fungi I saw today!
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: Bollo]
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Bollo said: ...I think the temperatures are still a bit too warm in the North end of Tassie here...
Hi Bollo, nice pictures!
Not sure where you are up north, but I saw a few Psilocybe subaeruginosa near Weldborough going on three weeks ago, including lots of pins, so there should be heaps up there by now. Down here they're well and truly out.
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: Tas75]
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nice pics!
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: Bollo]
#16137086 - 04/25/12 09:29 AM (1 year, 24 days ago) |
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Bollo said: Hello all, I haven't posted here yet so I thought I'd introduce myself to the thread. This will be my first season of proper hunting and I intend to succeed! Wherever those elusive fungi may be hiding.
I've been hunting a few times over the last three weeks but I haven't found the good stuff, just some beautiful inactives. I think the temperatures are still a bit too warm in the North end of Tassie here.
I hope you're all having a good season, I'll leave you with some of the wonderful specimens I've found over the last several days. Hopefully my next post will feature some subs! 

1. Hydnum sp. - Just a guess. 2. Really not sure photo is too dark for ID purposes. 3&4. Both Mycena. 5-9. Xerula sp. 10. Macrolepiota clelandii.
Really nice shots.
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@tas75
Amazing shots, your ID's look good to me for the most part.
Your Boletus looks like Boletus barragenis.
Yellow mushroom looks to be a Cortinarius hard to tell with just that shot though.
"weird thing" is a Phallaceae, perhaps Aseroe, I am not very good with these.
Really nice photos and interesting finds.
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: Tas75]
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Tas75 said:
Quote:
Bollo said: ...I think the temperatures are still a bit too warm in the North end of Tassie here...
Hi Bollo, nice pictures!
Not sure where you are up north, but I saw a few Psilocybe subaeruginosa near Weldborough going on three weeks ago, including lots of pins, so there should be heaps up there by now. Down here they're well and truly out.
Hey, thanks for the info! I got a couple of other tip offs as well so it looks like I'll have to plan a weekend road trip soon. 
I really like your photos! Excellent photography and really interesting fungi.
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Stopwhispering said: "weird thing" is a Phallaceae, perhaps Aseroe, I am not very good with these.
"Weird Thing" is the ubiquitous Aseroe rubra. You'll find all over at this time of the year. There was an article in the Mercury only last week about them.
Wikipedia entry for Aseroe rubra
Nice photos Tas75.
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: obtuse]
#16138412 - 04/25/12 05:28 PM (1 year, 24 days ago) |
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Went out hiking yesterday. Fungi everywhere. The season well and truly kicked in over the last week.
took a while, but better late than never.
Additionall heaps of different species occurring in areas where i go walking. But didnt get to the P. semilanceata spot, to see if there were any there. Ah well, next time.
Did find Mycena interrupta:

And lots of P. subaeruginosa. Heaps of them, lots of pins and lots of adults, not to mention quite a few old water logged examples.
a few pics:
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Really mystical feel to them pics Bollo, nice work!
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: obtuse]
#16138550 - 04/25/12 06:02 PM (1 year, 24 days ago) |
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obtuse said: Did find Mycena interrupta:

Cheers, Ob.
M. interrupta is one of my favorite mushrooms.
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Some really nice finds and pics on this thread!! 
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Thanks for the reply Obtuse.
Nice pics everyone!
Those M. interrupta look quite beautiful, would love to come across a couple. Can't wait to get out hunting, See what i can find
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started finding a few! around 20 only in my spot the usuall reliable one. not as long to sea level as last yeah but im sure theres more rain to come. might go hiking this weekend and have a look. hunger strikes
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Some Galerina patagonica I saw yesterday growing a few cm away from Psilocybe subaeruginosa:

If you're thinking about eating some subs, learning the difference could save your life. From the top they are almost identical to some populations of subs growing in grass in the open. They seem to be less common than subs, but I see them every autumn in wet forest.
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: Tas75]
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A yellow mushroom... Cortinarius? Tricholoma?

I think this is Dermocybe canaria.
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Oh, yeah, I think you're right. Thanks!
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       had a good morning hunting today remembered my camera got some nce pics  
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mycelium , not a great pic, was in a hurry but there were some awesome tiny tiny pins growing out of this...
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Many, many thanks to the Shroomery member whom my partner and I met so luckily over the weekend and who introduced me to my very first psilocybe!
I can't express my appreciation enough and I now have a much better idea of what to look out for.
Cheers man!
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Last year was a super-season, lets hope we see more of that this year... good to be back in Tassie!
had a quick look in usual spots yesterday but we need more rain and a couple of good frosts for some decent patches to come through up North!!
great to see some wonderful photography being posted up for everyone else to enjoy, thanks
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Hi everyone, just signed up here. 'Tis my 3rd season on the hunt. I've only managed to collect enough for a good trip once, last year the place I know to look was completely raped... Anyway, happy hunting! I'm going out early this morning as soon as the sun is up
Edit: found 5... :P not great so far
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Bollo said: Hello all, I haven't posted here yet so I thought I'd introduce myself to the thread. This will be my first season of proper hunting and I intend to succeed! Wherever those elusive fungi may be hiding.
I've been hunting a few times over the last three weeks but I haven't found the good stuff, just some beautiful inactives. I think the temperatures are still a bit too warm in the North end of Tassie here.
I hope you're all having a good season, I'll leave you with some of the wonderful specimens I've found over the last several days. Hopefully my next post will feature some subs! 

Some awesome shots here! Love it
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Got up nice and early and was planning on visiting all of my local patches. Got to my first patch and realised I wouldn't need to go anywhere else - all the rain has really set it off. I think this may have been my biggest haul from this particular patch - definitely my biggest haul for this early in the season.
Here are the pics from the hunt:
     
It's gonna be a good night boys!
 Bottle of Jager, some nice bud, couple grams of meph and of course lots of shrooms.
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What is the point of doing meth and smoking bud? Don't they cancel each other out? Drugs and bad
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Not meth... Mephedrone. I would imagine it would be similar to MDMA and shrooms.
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Nom nom nom. And I don't have small hands XD

Also, does anyone here have any luck finding them in bark patches like the Melbournians do? I only really see subs in the bush...
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Slavich said: Nom nom nom. And I don't have small hands XD

Also, does anyone here have any luck finding them in bark patches like the Melbournians do? I only really see subs in the bush...
That's a good sized stem. Nice find.
I never hunt in the bush. I stay in suburbia. I find that in the bush they don't really grow in groups, but if I go to a wood chip bed or a park they will be in massive clusters. I managed to get over 500g dry from a wood chip bed last season.
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: Nevermind]
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Thought I would share share my tasty Tasmanian treats.
These are today's finds. About 20 minutes drive south of Kingston.
 Everything I found.
 For a better scale.
 Bruising.

aaand again.
This year has been my first properly successful year. This is the results of this afternoons foray.
My first shroom trip was on wednesday, Magical to say the least.
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: tashunter]
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I'm yet to find more then one mushroom so far this year. Going to spend a few hours tomorrow treking around the bush. I've never come across a patch of more than 5.
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hey slavich, my biggest hauls come from a patch in bark chips that spans across 100 metres next to a path, bark chips are definately the go...
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: thekernal]
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thekernal said: I'm yet to find more then one mushroom so far this year. Going to spend a few hours tomorrow treking around the bush. I've never come across a patch of more than 5.
Wow, you need to hunt around some more. Last week when I was taking photographs I saw hundreds, possibly over 1,000 in about 2h, walking along a forestry road in the upper Derwent Valley. There are patches like that in a few places around, and several are within 1h of Hobart. After this rain I can imagine there would be even more.
I have probably seen the most around roadsides and they also like edges. Lots of woody debris on the ground, rank grass, fireweed and blackberries also seem to attract them. Clearings along forest, paths, clearings and edges of pine plantations, wet forest...
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Went on a Lactarius deliciosus foray today down south of Hobart. I ran into some people looking for them as well! Not only have I never run into someone foraging for mushrooms before, they were also after saffron milk caps!
If you're on this forum, Hi!
Anyway, here's a couple of pictures: First the ubiquitous Amanita muscaria. If only they were a good edible! I know there's a ton of photos of them out there, but they're so cute!

And the result of a few hours foray: a basketful of Lactarius deliciosus. This was my share, about 1/4 of the total.

I'll eat them for dinner tonight, with a steak!
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: Tas75]
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Amanita muscaria is a good edible. You can detoxify it by slicing and then parboiling it for a few minutes in a large quantity of water.
Last year at SOMA Camp, David Arora was going around with a tray of cooked mushrooms, passing them out to whoever would take them. Everyone thought they were delicious. After they ate it he told them it was A. muscaria and people were very surprised. He always parboils them before he cooks them. I do not parboil them before I cook them, but I eat a small amount.
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Wow I never realised amanita muscaria was edible to that extent. Did anyone notice any psychoactive effects after consuming them?
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thekernal said: I'm yet to find more then one mushroom so far this year. Going to spend a few hours tomorrow treking around the bush. I've never come across a patch of more than 5.
Wow, you need to hunt around some more. Last week when I was taking photographs I saw hundreds, possibly over 1,000 in about 2h, walking along a forestry road in the upper Derwent Valley. There are patches like that in a few places around, and several are within 1h of Hobart. After this rain I can imagine there would be even more.
I have probably seen the most around roadsides and they also like edges. Lots of woody debris on the ground, rank grass, fireweed and blackberries also seem to attract them. Clearings along forest, paths, clearings and edges of pine plantations, wet forest...
Thanks for the advice. I went out walking all day today and found lots of mushrooms. My first big find. Tonight is going to be good :P
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thekernal said: Thanks for the advice. I went out walking all day today and found lots of mushrooms. My first big find. Tonight is going to be good :P
Hey, well done! Was it? :P
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Hello All 
Well it took awhile, but I've finally found my first ever Sub 
I recently met up with a friend in Melbourne who showed me the art of hunting. On our first day hunting (without any help from my friend) i found this,

(Notice how the bigger of the two seems to extend its cap over the smaller one? quite amazing!!)
We found around 40 subs that day. Here's a pic of some of the ones my good friend gave to me (he found most of them)

Now the hunt is back on for finding them in Tassie. Looked around last weekend, but still nothing btw im in the north.
=== A WARNING TO OTHER NEW HUNTERS === I enjoyed subs on 3 occasions in Melbourne. 1st was good, 2nd was better, 3rd?, not good at all All I'll say is, BE CAREFUL of how many FRESH subs you have!!! You see, I like big trips, in fact, i LOVE them!!! BUT, DON'T presume, that x amount will be ok, cause it will be a trip from (and to) HELL for you!!! (as i learnt that day)
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Still yet to find anything around my local area. Have been looking in every park, playground and bit of bushland I can think of :/
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I've never been around Launnie in season and noticed where they grow. I'd head up the Sideling, if I was you, or any wet bush area. Maybe the road to Pine Lake? Down here they're well and truly out in the bush but not so much in the city, just getting started.
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Is there anyone on the board who is somewhat local to Launnie and might be able to help me out???
Feel free to PM me, would be good to meet a local as I am just starting to get frustrated now 
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Looking on google earth, I would look here, especially in the grassy areas between the hills. looks like there's pathways there. Looks like a good walk too.
No idea if there is anything there, but no way to know without looking.
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Found a few up north, more pics next time
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Just thought I'd mention in that Google earth picture 2 up, the top left hand circle is privately owned land with cows on it, i think all the rest is reserve? The area has a lot of inactives not sure about actives yet.
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Hi Slavich,
You're pointing at a large reserve full of walking tracks, name starting with 'T'. It might be a good spot in the moister areas, but mostly probably too dry? Down here dry places tend to flush later in the season unless we have a really good dump of rain. I don't recall many woodchip or landscaped beds in that reserve either, but it's been a while. If you have transport I'd head for the hills! The pine plantation edges on the main road to the E coast is probably a good place to look. Mt. B, & Mt. A to the east, and Q Bluff to the west, if you take my meaning, all have promising habitat.
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I can't express my appreciation enough for your responses. Thank you!
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Hey guys me and my mate found 140g fresh today near the base of mt [[mod edit: Exact locations are not allowed]]. most were young, it was a bloodbath 

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bezoo69 said: Hey guys me and my mate found 140g fresh today near the base of mt [[mod edit: Exact locations are not allowed]]
Just a quick question please Alan Rockefeller.
When i do find subs ( soon i hope ) is it ok to say i found them on Earth??
That's an exact location 
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Hi All,
This is my first post, and time picking/discovering in Tas (I hail from the Northern NSW coast).
Went for a wander through the Huon Valley this morning and stumbled across a wide variety of fungus, some of which we hope are subaeruginosa.
Could any of you give us a hand identifying these little guys? Would be much appreciated. There were four or so other species which looked similar but were definitely not the same, which I may have got confused. In particular, we are concerned about the larger ones- does subaeruginosa grow to this size?
These pics are all taken about two hours after picking:




 (^ do they get this big? There are also differences in them in the caps- some are almost completely flat yet others are quite domed?)
Also, this is one of the other little guys we saw- anyone know what it is? The stem was pure snow white (as are the gills) when I picked it, but has since greyed.

Amazing walk this morning- have never seen such an abundance of species growing so close together- have spotted amanita muscaras, purples mushrooms and even a weird green and gold ones- most of which I didn't manage to get a photo of - but can definitely say that this morning, the fungus was most certainly among us (or were we amongst it!?)
 (did manage one of the purple, though)
Any help would be appreciated
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First set of pics are subs, and nice looking ones too. Don't pull them up from the ground, use scissors next time. For now, take all the stem butts with mycelium attached and put them back out in a good habitat to spawn new patches.
Not sure on #2. Maybe a Mycena sp, but I'm terrible with southern hemisphere ID's
#3 looks like a Russula sp.
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: NeoSporen]
#16207081 - 05/09/12 11:03 PM (1 year, 10 days ago) |
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WOW WAT A FUCKING SUB!!!
congrats mate. But yes please use scissors and you will see many more of those huge fuckers
Please dont pick pins either. let the cap fully open atleast/
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Yeah, sorry, kind of camping at the time and no scissors on hand- did pull the bottoms off most of them (and most of the bottoms on the rest of them) and put them back :s left a good deal of what we found as well... sorry on the pins- we get meenies up where I'm from and they don't get a whole lot bigger than that...
Thanks for the help with the IDs though- so they mainly look good? I'm a little worried that some of them may not be right and got mixed in :S but I'm pretty sure I dodged any Galerina patagonica as I noticed they only grew on wood?
Wish I'd got some pictures of the spread this morning- camera wouldn't work- so many different ones- think I saw some liberty caps? But wasn't sure so let them be.
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: gtvwill]
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Also, this is one of the other little guys we saw- anyone know what it is? The stem was pure snow white (as are the gills) when I picked it, but has since greyed.

Xerula species.
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 (did manage one of the purple, though)
Any help would be appreciated

Russula species. Think it's in my book but I am at work will look when I get home for you. Cool colour.
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Cool colour. That's what I thought! Cheers for the IDs
Loving all the colours of the fungus down here! Hunting at home is usually the old brown to white range- this feels like being down the rabbit hole!
PS: Sorry to be a pain but just looking for a specific "yes" or "no" on the bigger ones- is the difference in the caps irrelevant or are there two different kinds mixed in there?
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It's most likely just from the color fading while they mature and the caps flatten out. You're all good
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All seem to have blue brusing aswell .
Print them big fuckers or do some cardboard work etc. they look like monsters.
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Awesome, yeah that's what we figured- they were all bruising fairly well (and a lot of them are now almost black they're that blue) but I definitely wanting to check lol
also: update: we've cut the ends off and put all the root balls in the closest thing we could find to fungus heaven (I think we got pretty close :P). Might be too little too late? But maybe hopefully some of them will take :S
Just to be a pest: does anyone have any tips on good drying techniques (we are sans dehydrator and oven- not that we'd cook them)?
PS: We've already taken prints from the biggest ones
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: gtvwill]
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Nice. Still wait for a trusted Identifier please though.
Fresh is best mate 
Go buy some damprid and a tote with a lid at woolies/safeway. $10 at most. Will get to cracker dry in few days.
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Yeah we wanted to take them on the w/e so we'll have to dry them out... means we have time to wait for a few more confirmations 
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Wat day? F,S or S??
you can wrap say a group of 7-10 in some paper towel and store them in the fridge down with the veges for 7 days. Weigh them out when you wrap them and write the weight on the towel. They lose water weight in fridge but still retain that extra kick fresh ones have this way. This my method for when i grow cubes and harvest is before i want to trip.
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Dunno, maybe Fri, depending on a couple of other people... that fridge idea sounds like a mad way to do it!
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It works mate. just like how you would store normal shrooms in a fridge but with more paper towel this time so all the moisture is absorbed. The mushroom goes a little leathery twords day 7.
You wont end up with rotten mushrooms, when i find some will write up a tek. and than add some more pics when i make my next batch of cakes.
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Cheers man... I'll have to keep my eye out for it
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Hello
Found this morning 

And the best thing? this was only a small amount of what was still there ( Im a very happy person )
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Some of those almost look like Psilocybe cyanescens. Weird how close subbs can look to cyans with a bit of wavy cap margin.
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Wow those do look cyan'ish. I remember someone finding a patch cyans in Australia last year.
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: NeoSporen]
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Hello bfogg8706 and maynardjameskeenan
Actually, i was thinking how they seemed different to the subs i recently found in Melbourne. If these are not subs? are they more potent or less?
Was planing on having 15-20 of them tomorrow ( i do like big trips )
good idea or bad?. if they were subs, i would have had 15-20 fresh.
Any advice would be great, as it'd save me from a SUPER MEGA bad trip like the one i had last time i tripped.
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blessed said: Hello bfogg8706 and maynardjameskeenan
Actually, i was thinking how they seemed different to the subs i recently found in Melbourne. If these are not subs? are they more potent or less?
Was planing on having 15-20 of them tomorrow ( i do like big trips )
good idea or bad?. if they were subs, i would have had 15-20 fresh.
Any advice would be great, as it'd save me from a SUPER MEGA bad trip like the one i had last time i tripped.
Potency should be roughly the same as subs.
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Psilocybe subaeruginosa have a huge range of morphological variations. over the last twenty years i have seen an astounding variety of colouration, stem shape, cap shape, cap edge. This probably a result of a wide range of genetics characters within the species, but also being expressed depending on their habitat and what nutrients and water levels they have available.
Given that P. subaeruginosa, P. cyanescens, and P. azurescens are very closely related i also would not surprised if there are many of the same alleles present in their genetics, which give rise to the amazing similarities between some examples of each.
Given that there used to be a P. tasmanian, P. australiana, and P. eucalypta, now included in P. subaeruginosa by Chang and Mills, it illustrates how much variety is present.
Yes Tas75 found a very P. cyanescens looking P. subaeruginosa last year, but i was decided it was a P. subaeruginosa, but with unusual characters. A site i was aware of twenty odd years ago, all had the P. cyanescens characterists, and being pre-internet we spent ages trying to work out what they were and thought at the time they were P. cyanescens.
But with the amount of spore print trading going on you would never know. some person may have been experimenting, and some got loose. certainly possible.
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obtuse said: Yes Tas75 found a very P. cyanescens looking P. subaeruginosa last year, but i was decided it was a P. subaeruginosa, but with unusual characters. A site i was aware of twenty odd years ago, all had the P. cyanescens characterists, and being pre-internet we spent ages trying to work out what they were and thought at the time they were P. cyanescens.
Actually, it was finally labelled as Psilocybe aff. cyanescens. The pleurocystidia are hyaline. Psilocybe subaeruginosa as described by Cleland has brown pleurocystidia. Not that I'm sure that's a good character... From what I hear it's common for P. subaeruginosa to have hyaline pleurocystidia.
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Hello Everyone 
first, thank you maynardjameskeenan for answering question on potency.
obtuse, I know for a fact that my knowledge in the field of mycology is very very very limited, but i did want to add to your post that these recent finds look quite different to the ones i saw in Melbourne only a few weeks ago. They both were found in the same type of environment, but that's where things (seem to) change. The caps, even the stems, just seem different.
Again, I am no expert, but i only grabs these to start with cause a friend of mine told me about the location of them. Had i had my subs eyes locked on for subs, i most likely would have kept walking.
Here are more shots for the experts to decide.
Ether way, in a few hours, I'll be flying though the intergalactic universe (thanks to these subs, or what ever the hell they are) 


btw, if these are Psilocybe cyanescens, are there poisonous imitators?
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Nah basically cyan is a wavy capped sub and vice versa.
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They are different species.
One of the Psilocybe subaeruginosa collections examined from Australia turned out to be Psilocybe cyanescens when sequenced. It had wavy caps and everything.
I am not sure if it is growing in the wild out there or if someone is cultivating them.
Blessed's collection looks a lot like Psilocybe cyanescens and may be that species.
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Checked out all my patches today. Only two have psilocybes at the moment, the others should start having some pop up in the next couple of weeks.
Someone has been at my main patch - ripped out lots of ferns which the mushrooms usually grow beneath. Same thing happened last year and it really slowed things down up there.
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Just checked a spot in my garden where I found my first ever subs two seasons ago.
One lonely pin... Usually around June it gets some nice big fruits. Just needs a little bit more time.
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Alan Rockefeller said: One of the Psilocybe subaeruginosa collections examined from Australia turned out to be Psilocybe cyanescens when sequenced. It had wavy caps and everything.
Hi Alan, Obtuse,
I have always seen all the P. cyanescens look-alikes growing only in ladscaped environments, whereas typical P. subaeruginosa morphotypes occur in both urban and natural environments. In my experience, down here sub morphotypes are more common in natural situations. This is ambiguous as it could simply be reflecting a different morphology responding to a different environment, or it could indicate that urban environments, where fungal spores from overseas travellers are probably not uncommon, have seen exotic species become established.
The lack of brown pleurocystidia on my collection from last year that I posted in another forum (and link to above) is interesting, in that this is pretty much the defining character of Psilocybe subaeruginosa Cleland, isn't it? I have not done the microscopy myself but left it to a local expert.
Anyway, here are some interesting things I saw today. These are (almost) the southernmost subs in Australia. I say almost because they've previously been collected in offshore islands off the southern Tas coast, but this is from the southernmost part of mainland Tasmania.
Note the super-chunky stem in these, and that they look of the cyan morphotype. The cap is approximately 7cm across and the stem in some specimens was over 1cm thick. About 200m up the road there were typical, Tasmanian subs with a circular, strongly umbonate cap and slender, tall stipe.
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Yes they have been seen on Maatsuyker Island.
And have also been documented.
amazing how these little guys travel.
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Tas75 said: Note the super-chunky stem in these, and that they look of the cyan morphotype. The cap is approximately 7cm across and the stem in some specimens was over 1cm thick. About 200m up the road there were typical, Tasmanian subs with a circular, strongly umbonate cap and slender, tall stipe.
i wonder if the bracken fern has anything to do with it, and the subsequently high nitrogen content in the soil that results from their presence.
just speculation, but i know from my own experience, wherever i have found the some morphotype there has always been an abundance of bracken.
Theres a potential study in that i reckon Tas75 
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This is some interesting goodness!!
These are some subaeruginosa that i grew last season.

The spores came from subs from a small West australian town in the south of the state.
As they matured their caps became wavy etc........
I have wondered for a long time if one of the spots I pick wild subs from were azures or cyans. Wondered this as they are early to fruit compared to my other patches and are very strong.
It's a long shot, but if someone wanted to check this out under a scope I'd happily send them a few prints from some of my patches including the 'wavy' one.
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Tas75 said: The lack of brown pleurocystidia on my collection from last year that I posted in another forum (and link to above) is interesting, in that this is pretty much the defining character of Psilocybe subaeruginosa Cleland, isn't it? I have not done the microscopy myself but left it to a local expert.
Brown cystidia is a defining characteristic of Psilocybe subaeruginosa, however none of the collections I have examined have had anything other than hyaline cystidia. Others in Australia have scoped many collections and never seen the brown cystidia that is in Guzman's description.
Cleland's original description doesn't even mention cystidia, the brown cystidia is due to Guzman's examination of collections borrowed from Australian herbariums. I am not sure if he has seen the type, it is gone now in any case.
Perhaps there is a true Psilocybe subaeruginosa with brown cystidia and 99% of what people find is another species. But nothing else in section Cyanescens has brown cystidia so I think it is an error.
Brown cystidia is usually found in species from Psilocybe section Brunneocystidiatae.
Here is Cleland's original description of Psilocybe subaeruginosa:

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Great, thanks Alan!
I note there is not much there to grab hold of as being distinctive.
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Tas75 said: I note there is not much there to grab hold of as being distinctive.
I know, that description could apply to many species.
That kind of work would never fly today, but I guess shit was crazy back in the 20's.
We should dispatch hunting teams to the locations listed in Cleland's description to collect neotypes for herbarium deposit so some serious work can be done on this taxon.
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We should dispatch hunting teams to the locations listed in Cleland's description to collect neotypes for herbarium deposit so some serious work can be done on this taxon.
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That's not totally out of the question... both Waterfall Gully and Mt. Lofty are practically suburban Adelaide today... there have to be some South Ozzies here who can do it 
Out of all the morphotypes of Psilocybe subaeruginosa I regularly see in Tassie the most common looks not unlike Psilocybe azurescens: Caramel coloured, and campanulate with a strong umbo. The variability of colour, from pale straw yellow to dark caramel, as well as shape, from conical-campanulate with a strong umbo, through depressed with no umbo to wavy-capped and almost infundibiliform is more than just a function of where they grow or their age... There are often several fruiting bodies (obviously from the same mycelium) that share the same characteristics. Of course the trick is where to draw the line between inter- and intra-specific variation. It doesn't help that traditional species concepts are of almost no use here.
Now, if there was someone with the time and inclination to try growing all these forms outdoors in the same environmental conditions...
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Went for a walk in the bush near my house today:
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Out of all the morphotypes of Psilocybe subaeruginosa I regularly see in Tassie the most common looks not unlike Psilocybe azurescens: Caramel coloured, and campanulate with a strong umbo. The variability of colour, from pale straw yellow to dark caramel, as well as shape, from conical-campanulate with a strong umbo, through depressed with no umbo to wavy-capped and almost infundibiliform is more than just a function of where they grow or their age... There are often several fruiting bodies (obviously from the same mycelium) that share the same characteristics. Of course the trick is where to draw the line between inter- and intra-specific variation. It doesn't help that traditional species concepts are of almost no use here.
Now, if there was someone with the time and inclination to try growing all these forms outdoors in the same environmental conditions... 
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Hello 
Nice finds Nevermind & Tas75 Tas75, They look awesome!!!!
Just a few question for anyone who would like to help,
I know i can use the search, but as I've gone from a complete noob to a 50% no 50% ob ALL in this thread, i thought it would be a great way for other new members and hunters to see what a new person goes through as they go from white belt in mycology to brown belt (that bruises blue) 
What's the best way to get my recent find (page 8 up the top) growing in other places? (i plan to get them growing everywhere i can)
Can you over pic an area? (i haven't taken them all, but right now there are only babies (pins) visible (im sure my friend has visited the patch) as I don't want to kill it for obvious reasons)
Thanks in advance for any helpful replies
btw, just an update on yesterday. i had 21 dried and it was intense but also amazing. probably one of the best ever trips I've had
Psilocybe cyanescens based on ALL my trips, kick subs in the butt
Also, Thanks to the men & women that make this site possible, and all the wonderful people on this site. My life is better because of this site
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blessed said: What's the best way to get my recent find (page 8 up the top) growing in other places? (i plan to get them growing everywhere i can)
If you have the piece of paper you dried them on (with spores all over it), go bury it in a bark bed somewhere. It works really well  Or you could get some grotty ones, blend them up to make spore water and pour it on an area. I prefer the paper method though.
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Make sure you give them a flick before picking them (to drop spores), cut the base and don't pick ones that haven't opened up, and the patch will not die ever.
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Make sure you give them a flick before picking them (to drop spores)
Flicking mushrooms does not cause them to drop spores.
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and the patch will not die ever.
The patch will die unless you feed it every year.
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Make sure you give them a flick before picking them (to drop spores)
Flicking mushrooms does not cause them to drop spores.
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and the patch will not die ever.
The patch will die unless you feed it every year.
What do you mean? I was under he impression that a patch of Subaeruginosa in a pine bed can grow there for many many years. If not, how do you feed it?
Also I've seen spore blankets on fungi with an annulus, and moving them would surely knock them down?
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Slavich said: What do you mean? I was under he impression that a patch of Subaeruginosa in a pine bed can grow there for many many years. If not, how do you feed it?
I guess pine patches are getting fed by the pine trees.
Wood chip patches need new wood chips.
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They are pretty sticky, it is better to wash the spores off the caps and stems with water and throw the spore water on fresh wood chips.
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Its a misnomoer that spores drop of the cap, they are in fact forcibly ejected off the sterigmata which holds them to the basidia. the process is called Ballistospory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballistospore), and its another one of those magic inventions by nature, where by using the natural humidity around the fruiting body and the reaction caused by the osmotic pressure from exuded sugars the spore is shot away from the basidium to a safe distance from which it then falls. This is why its best to make a spore print under a cup as the moisture levels can be maintained to make a better print.
P.Subaeruginosa, is a very heavy feeder. I have seen them chomp through large pile of Eucalypt forest debris within a couple of years. Once there is not enough nutrients left available, fungal succession takes place and a new fungi moves in to make use of what other nutrients can be gained from the substrate that the previous species wasnt able to munch. Depending on the species of tree they are under, it would take different times to munch through the litter. They love Eucalypt and seem to devour it very quickly, i wonder about the degree to which they make use of pine litter.
As I only know of one spot where they grow under pines, and there are also eucalypt near by dropping their own litter, so Im very curious about the pine mulch factor. i wonder if Subs are a secondary or even tertiary agent in the fungal succession in these locations.
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Thank you Slavich, Alan Rockefeller & obtuse for the input to my questions.
I will try EVERY way i can to get them growing in more then one location, woodchips & bushland. I've seen many places already that should welcome these awesome mushrooms.
In fact, it's hard to believe that where i live (northern part of Tassie), that there are so few to be found. I want to change that. Not just for myself, but for future hunters too. Im seeing this as a long term project, and even if it takes me years?, i will NOT give up 
Just one more question with introducing to new areas please,
Should i do it when it's not raining (dry, as in it hasn't rained for awhile), while it's raining, or after? and do i need to keep going back to water them? (and if so, how often?) ( i know that they're not plants, but im lead to believe they need water to grow )
Thanks again everyone for your help (throughout this whole thread), and to just think that i used to be a very very depressed person. Not anymore (partly thanks to magic mushrooms)
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Should i do it when it's not raining (dry, as in it hasn't rained for awhile), while it's raining, or after? and do i need to keep going back to water them? (and if so, how often?)
Quite often I hear people dumping Subaeruginosa spores or leftovers, and that area fruits the next year. If you decide to bury pore paper, I would think a moist/wet area is best, as then it kind of clumps to whatever you buried it in. Last time I just took a leak on it. If you find a suitable spot no watering is neccasary.
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Last year after each time I went out picking I would snip the end off sub stems and put them into a tin can along with any sticks and leaves that were stuck to the subs. I chucked in a bit of the soil from my garden where subs grow also.
After a few weeks there was some mycelium growing. I ended up transferring it into an ice cream container and leaving it outside.
 
I don't know what ever happened to it. I can't find it now. But I've already started a new jar this year which I'm interested to see the outcome of.
I also buried a few spore prints in various woodchip beds were Leratiomyces ceres were growing. Will have to have a look in the next couple of weeks to see if anything has popped up.
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In my experience, stem butts of wild P. subaeruginosa are more often than not carrying fungus gnat larvae that quickly consume all the mycelium. I've had the best luck transferring the mycelium to egg-carton cardboard, and then removing the stem butt when it rots, and adding woodchips to the carton. This way I can remove any fungus gnat larvae.
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blessed said: Thank you Slavich, Alan Rockefeller & obtuse for the input to my questions.
I will try EVERY way i can to get them growing in more then one location, woodchips & bushland. I've seen many places already that should welcome these awesome mushrooms.
In fact, it's hard to believe that where i live (northern part of Tassie), that there are so few to be found. I want to change that. Not just for myself, but for future hunters too. Im seeing this as a long term project, and even if it takes me years?, i will NOT give up 
Just one more question with introducing to new areas please,
Should i do it when it's not raining (dry, as in it hasn't rained for awhile), while it's raining, or after? and do i need to keep going back to water them? (and if so, how often?) ( i know that they're not plants, but im lead to believe they need water to grow )
Thanks again everyone for your help (throughout this whole thread), and to just think that i used to be a very very depressed person. Not anymore (partly thanks to magic mushrooms) 
Hey dude heaps grow up here in the north they really don't kick in for another month
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Tas75 said: That's not totally out of the question... both Waterfall Gully and Mt. Lofty are practically suburban Adelaide today... there have to be some South Ozzies here who can do it 
Out of all the morphotypes of Psilocybe subaeruginosa I regularly see in Tassie the most common looks not unlike Psilocybe azurescens: Caramel coloured, and campanulate with a strong umbo. The variability of colour, from pale straw yellow to dark caramel, as well as shape, from conical-campanulate with a strong umbo, through depressed with no umbo to wavy-capped and almost infundibiliform is more than just a function of where they grow or their age... There are often several fruiting bodies (obviously from the same mycelium) that share the same characteristics. Of course the trick is where to draw the line between inter- and intra-specific variation. It doesn't help that traditional species concepts are of almost no use here.
Now, if there was someone with the time and inclination to try growing all these forms outdoors in the same environmental conditions... 
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If those are considered cyans then I have definitely found cyans in NZ. A friends patch grows only wavy capped from a very early age every year.
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here in SA the first ever patch i found in 2010 grew only wavy caps in a woodchipped garden bed which look unlike any other wavy capped Psilocybe Subaeruginosa that ive found but i was always told they were just P. subs. now im certainly not saying ive found P. cyanescens and im happy thinking they are just wavy Subs but ive never found any other wavy caps that looked like those
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Wow saw a 50 or 60 y.o. woman with a torch looking under trees where so many subs live this evening! Please tell me it isn't so! Looked like she picked something put it in her pocket.... Boo hoo hoo hoo.....I rode past her on my pushy she casually smiled with torch in hand dog on lead way down the path looking under more trees.....
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: scrogman]
#16233815 - 05/15/12 08:10 AM (1 year, 4 days ago) |
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scrogman said: Wow saw a 50 or 60 y.o. woman with a torch looking under trees where so many subs live this evening! Please tell me it isn't so! Looked like she picked something put it in her pocket.... Boo hoo hoo hoo.....I rode past her on my pushy she casually smiled with torch in hand dog on lead way down the path looking under more trees.....
I like to disguise myself as old women when hunting.
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: Slavich]
#16233829 - 05/15/12 08:15 AM (1 year, 4 days ago) |
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I sometimes flirt with old women when I'm huntning.
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: scrogman]
#16236739 - 05/15/12 09:27 PM (1 year, 4 days ago) |
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Hello Again 
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Hey dude heaps grow up here in the north they really don't kick in for another month 
Hello scrogman That's great to hear. I really do now believe that the ones i recently found (pics in this thread) are Psilocybe cyanescens. (based on other comments in this thread)
They seem to fruit earlier in the season as apposed to Psilocybe subaeruginosa. but ether way im happy to hear the good news, thanks 
Hello Slavich About introducing spores to new areas, I've gone out & did what you suggested in 2 places. Lets hope it succeeds Again thank you 
Lastly, what do you think of my mushroom storage facilities ? (Named: The Awesome Store'em Pty.Ltd)

I first fan dried them for 2-3 days and then i put them in here.
Is this good enough? (I would like to fill it up, so i can have a year's worth of Awesomeness after the season ends)
Edited by blessed (05/15/12 09:33 PM)
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: blessed]
#16238293 - 05/16/12 04:05 AM (1 year, 3 days ago) |
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The damprid is good, that will absorb moisture and keep them dry.
What you're storing them in doesn't look all that great. Try and get your hands on an airtight glass jar or plastic container.
I use an empty one of these with a few little bags of damprid in it. It has a rubber seal on the bottom of the lid so it's almost completely airtight - and if any moisture does happen to get in the damprid will take care of it.

You can get these at woolies or coles for about $5.
I kept my shrooms from last season in one of these jars and it did the job perfectly.
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: Nevermind]
#16238436 - 05/16/12 05:47 AM (1 year, 3 days ago) |
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What i store my buds in
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What I store my bud in haha.
But back to the point.....i think i must go venturing while I have the next week off !
Edited by TakeAhit (05/16/12 07:51 AM)
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: Nevermind]
#16239107 - 05/16/12 10:57 AM (1 year, 3 days ago) |
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Nevermind said: The damp rid is good, that will absorb moisture and keep them dry.
What you're storing them in doesn't look all that great.
Thanks for the info Nevermind I do wonder why it's not a great (sufficient) place though? The Damp Rid should take care of any moisture and the draw (pictured) has a good tight (maybe not air tight) fit in the drawer it fits into. Also, the drawer itself is fully closed up so other then the holes for the draws to slide into, there is really no other way for air to get in. Also, i have no problem getting another damp rid (or 2) to increase the effect of moisture removal (although that could end up being costly, don't know?, this is all new to me). I understand that air tight is BEST, but surly with enough damp rid it should be enough (in small areas)??
I guess i was hoping this to be enough cause it's easy (especially if I've got hundreds of dried shrooms in there). I can be lazy sometimes  Don't get me wrong, if Air tight is the only way for dried mushrooms to survive (for 12 months) and not lose much (or any) of it's active ingredient?, then that the way I'll go  Do you still think my (easy) system will not do the job?
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: blessed]
#16239120 - 05/16/12 11:00 AM (1 year, 3 days ago) |
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If its not sufficently airtight it will draw moisture in from the fresh air. I use a plastic lunchbox i got from golo for like $2.
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Thanks NoxADVANCED
I will fix 
going to sleep, have a good night
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: blessed]
#16239144 - 05/16/12 11:07 AM (1 year, 3 days ago) |
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shopnaturally.com.au/lock-and-lock-rectangular-food-storage-containers.html
Good products and good price. Available at Safeway thats just product range for yas.
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: blessed]
#16240744 - 05/16/12 05:19 PM (1 year, 3 days ago) |
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Quote:
blessed said:
Quote:
Nevermind said: The damp rid is good, that will absorb moisture and keep them dry.
What you're storing them in doesn't look all that great.
Thanks for the info Nevermind I do wonder why it's not a great (sufficient) place though? The Damp Rid should take care of any moisture and the draw (pictured) has a good tight (maybe not air tight) fit in the drawer it fits into. Also, the drawer itself is fully closed up so other then the holes for the draws to slide into, there is really no other way for air to get in. Also, i have no problem getting another damp rid (or 2) to increase the effect of moisture removal (although that could end up being costly, don't know?, this is all new to me). I understand that air tight is BEST, but surly with enough damp rid it should be enough (in small areas)??
I guess i was hoping this to be enough cause it's easy (especially if I've got hundreds of dried shrooms in there). I can be lazy sometimes  Don't get me wrong, if Air tight is the only way for dried mushrooms to survive (for 12 months) and not lose much (or any) of it's active ingredient?, then that the way I'll go  Do you still think my (easy) system will not do the job?
Airtight is the only way to go.
I doubt they'd last more than a couple weeks in that drawer even with the damp rid. Even just an ice cream container with a lid on it will do a better job than the drawer, even if you just store them in that until you can get something better.
A good way to test is to snap the stems on your dry shrooms. If it snaps completely in two then it's dry. If it bends and rips but doesn't snap then you've got some moisture in them and need to dry them again.
I lost about 200g last year due to moisture. It really sucks to have to throw away that many shrooms.
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: Nevermind]
#16241739 - 05/16/12 08:42 PM (1 year, 3 days ago) |
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Greetings fellow shroomers.
Newbie here. I have a bush block in the Huon Valley, it's got plenty of interesting things growing on it! I'm keen to meet up with anyone local to share experience/knowledge.
PM me if you're in the area.
GB.
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: gawnbloke]
#16243615 - 05/17/12 03:57 AM (1 year, 2 days ago) |
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A mate of mine used to pick down that way.
Some real big shrooms can be found around there in the pine forests. It's too far away for me to go and have a hunt down there though, but good luck.
Edited by Nevermind (05/17/12 04:01 AM)
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North west and midlands are FULL of subs at the moment..... I got about 600 today in 2 hours.
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: TakeAhit]
#16243699 - 05/17/12 04:51 AM (1 year, 2 days ago) |
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TakeAhit said: What I store my bud in haha.
But back to the point.....i think i must go venturing while I have the next week off ! [/qutote] DO it! put it on the list under scrog out the scrogs. other services.
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: Nevermind]
#16244389 - 05/17/12 11:42 AM (1 year, 2 days ago) |
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Quote:
Nevermind said:
Airtight is the only way to go.
I doubt they'd last more than a couple weeks in that drawer even with the damp rid. Even just an ice cream container with a lid on it will do a better job than the drawer, even if you just store them in that until you can get something better.
A good way to test is to snap the stems on your dry shrooms. If it snaps completely in two then it's dry. If it bends and rips but doesn't snap then you've got some moisture in them and need to dry them again.
I lost about 200g last year due to moisture. It really sucks to have to throw away that many shrooms.
Far out!!! 200g is alot to lose That's terrible. I hope this season you find heaps to makeup for that loss, good luck 
Thanks for your words of wisdom concerning storage I've only got about 10g left and then im all out. I will do something about an air tight solution while looking for more shrooms.
cya for now
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: blessed]
#16245780 - 05/17/12 05:26 PM (1 year, 2 days ago) |
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i put mine in front of a fan overnight, dries em out noice
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: Nevermind]
#16248302 - 05/18/12 02:51 AM (1 year, 1 day ago) |
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: scrogman]
#16248466 - 05/18/12 03:49 AM (1 year, 1 day ago) |
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Nice. Looks like you got some sort of Panaeolus sp. there.
What kind of habitat were they growing in?
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: Nevermind]
#16248493 - 05/18/12 03:59 AM (1 year, 1 day ago) |
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They were growing in grassy area, mid north tassie.
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: scrogman]
#16248509 - 05/18/12 04:05 AM (1 year, 1 day ago) |
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Was it growing from dung? Or just straight from the grass?
It looks like Panaeolus papilionaceus to me or maybe Panaeolina foeniseci(neither are active), but I have very limited experience identifying this species so I'm most likely wrong.
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: Nevermind]
#16248559 - 05/18/12 04:32 AM (1 year, 1 day ago) |
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here are the subs I found today, it got I'd as pan pap on hunting forum. I'm taking a spore print tonight
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: scrogman]
#16248563 - 05/18/12 04:33 AM (1 year, 1 day ago) |
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Oh they were just in bull grass in a camp ground clearing
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: scrogman]
#16248577 - 05/18/12 04:40 AM (1 year, 1 day ago) |
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Yeah Pan. pap. sounds about right. Nice finds, shame it's not active though.
Those are some nice lookin subs you got there.
I went for a hunt yesterday on my break at work. Haven't had any rain this week and my patch is almost completely dried out. I got about 7 or so subs, but they aren't big ones like yours.
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: Nevermind]
#16251207 - 05/18/12 08:24 PM (1 year, 1 day ago) |
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I've got 4 patches where they're popping up now. My big patch from last year hasn't got anything yet - I'm hoping some more rain will fix that.
Patch 1
    
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Patch 3
  
And patch 4
  
And here's what I left with

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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: Nevermind]
#16252140 - 05/19/12 12:15 AM (1 year, 1 day ago) |
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Nice!!! Patch 2 looks like its going off!! whats the albino one?
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They're all subs. The appearances vary a lot due to factors like light, water and substrate. The albino looking one was from a patch that is fairly dry. The sun and lack of moisture appears to have made it's colour fade.
Patch number one is actually my best at the moment, but the mushrooms don't grow in groups so it involves a bit of searching.
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Re: * Tasmania season 2012 * [Re: Nevermind]
#16253098 - 05/19/12 07:39 AM (1 year, 18 hours ago) |
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thats one fat Sub Nevermind
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I have a nice hidden patch of subs in the bush but there has been a lack of rain and the pins have stayed pretty much the same size for a week. I was wondering if I could water the are to help them grow?
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