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Vahunter
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#15998084 - 03/26/12 12:12 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Any thoughts? It stirs anger in me. These guys are like the clan, why does one group of people get a Pass when it comes to their own idea of justice. They are trying to start a war.

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#15998088 - 03/26/12 12:13 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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#15998115 - 03/26/12 12:23 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

The guy used excessive force and was wrong for what he did and most definitely should be punished but i dont doubt the kid was acting like a punk antagonizing and fucking with the guy. I also dont think that Black Panthers should just be able to put a 10,000 dollar bounty on someone

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#15998128 - 03/26/12 12:27 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Herbologist said:
The guy used excessive force and was wrong for what he did and most definitely should be punished

Please share with the rest of us the source of your knowledge.

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#15998133 - 03/26/12 12:28 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:

Herbologist said:
The guy used excessive force and was wrong for what he did and most definitely should be punished

Please share with the rest of us the source of your knowledge.

maybe im thinking of something else?

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#15998135 - 03/26/12 12:29 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Maybe, seeing as the investigation into this case isn't finished.

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#15998137 - 03/26/12 12:30 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

i must be then :shrug:

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#15998139 - 03/26/12 12:31 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Either that, or the tarring/feathering the media has given this guy has had an effect on you.

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#15998144 - 03/26/12 12:32 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Excessive force is shooting a kid when he has no weapon.

I'm pretty damn sure the old man coukdve just tackled him, rather than using a gun for whatever trayvon was doing.

Personally, I don't Give a fuck, its just like kony, another tragedy will take place in the news in a couple of days.

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#15998151 - 03/26/12 12:36 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Kony was a scam.

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#15998154 - 03/26/12 12:36 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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THose pictures both look like an innocent kid to me.

DEfinately nothing that makes me think he's a dangerous criminal. Especially with his size and lack of weaponry.

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#15998155 - 03/26/12 12:36 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

It's understandable why they don't use these photos because of their agendas, but this kind of thing is pretty common for getting bitches on facebook.

But seriously, imagine how bad jail time will be for the guy. A majority of American prisoners are black, and odds are a majority will be quite unhappy with the guy. I understand the thing didn't start out as a race thing, but thats what it got turned into which is inevitable really.

And they're not really getting a pass. I'm certain putting a bounty on the dudes head is illegal since he isn't a fugitive.

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#15998163 - 03/26/12 12:38 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:

Herbologist said:
The guy used excessive force and was wrong for what he did and most definitely should be punished

Please share with the rest of us the source of your knowledge.

Is murdering an unarmed kid ever ok?

investigation, lol.

You, lol.

LOL

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#15998168 - 03/26/12 12:39 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Excessive force is shooting a kid when he has no weapon.

So if a 250lb strong guy is choking the shit out of someone who has no chance of defending himself (small, old, disabled) and that person shoots the attacker... that's excessive force?

The one being choked should willing die rather than shoot?

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#15998170 - 03/26/12 12:40 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Is murdering an unarmed kid ever ok?

investigation, lol.

You, lol.

LOL

Self defense is not murder.

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#15998174 - 03/26/12 12:42 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Then why didn't they choose to use the gangsta ones to commemorate him? Because Hollister and smiles gains sympathy, not Phat Pharm and saggin' pants. Otherwise it wouldn't be national news, it'd be a 20 second story on the local news. When you dress and present yourself as a gangsta, you're treated as such, and the media knows this.

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#15998177 - 03/26/12 12:43 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

do you realize how unrelated everything you just wrote was in relation to what you quoted?

250lb strong guy?

COmpletely hypothetical situation?

THis is similar to an unarmed kid being shot how?

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#15998182 - 03/26/12 12:44 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

the upper right one doesn't really seem gansta to me, it seems more like a gansta fail, which at his age is kinda "cute" or something, imo

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#15998185 - 03/26/12 12:45 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Then why didn't they choose to use the gangsta ones to commemorate him? Because Hollister and smiles gains sympathy, not Phat Pharm and saggin' pants. Otherwise it wouldn't be national news, it'd be a 20 second story on the local news. When you dress and present yourself as a gangsta, you're treated as such, and the media knows this.

sounds like a conspiracy to me.

I guess choosing the best possible picture to represent someone isn't a common practice. I certainly wouldnt think to do that and would probably opt for my shirtless drunk pics right away :rolleyes:

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#15998191 - 03/26/12 12:46 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

To me he's still emulating that "gangsta snarl" that famous rappers to do look threatening. A real, genuine smile, is the bottom right.

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#15998195 - 03/26/12 12:48 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

hell, if they had used the more "street" photos, then people would say the media was trying to make it look like he had it coming.

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#15998197 - 03/26/12 12:48 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

From what I gathered... the guy followed the kid when he was told not to. Not saying that is exactly what happen (for I was not there), however, I would be a little skeptical if some man was following me in a car. I don't think the kid needed to die, and the Black Panthers putting a bounty on the guy who isn't running doesn't really make any sense. It will fall. More news will come and more information will be leaked. Then, as stated previously, on to the next tragedy. It's just how it goes. :cookiemonster:

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#15998200 - 03/26/12 12:49 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Hologram said:
Quote:

Newbie said:
Then why didn't they choose to use the gangsta ones to commemorate him? Because Hollister and smiles gains sympathy, not Phat Pharm and saggin' pants. Otherwise it wouldn't be national news, it'd be a 20 second story on the local news. When you dress and present yourself as a gangsta, you're treated as such, and the media knows this.

sounds like a conspiracy to me.

I guess choosing the best possible picture to represent someone isn't a common practice. I certainly wouldnt think to do that and would probably opt for my shirtless drunk pics right away

Shirtless drunk is not the same as threatening thug. Both parties look dumb as a shirtless drunk. Black or white, that getup on the left takes away most, if not all innocent appearance and doesn't help their case at all.

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#15998201 - 03/26/12 12:49 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

emulating media icons are what little kids do. I'm not trying to fight about it though <3

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#15998202 - 03/26/12 12:49 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Wolves snarl to look threatening too, you know?

Men wanting to look agressive is not an indication that they are criminal or deserving of any less respect than someone with a friendly smile.

Granted i would probably not talk to them and would instead approach the friendly looking person but that doesnt mean you should get shot for snarling.

Also at that age it is quite common to try and act tough, be it a "goth" or a "gansgster" they are still just people who deserve to live.

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#15998203 - 03/26/12 12:50 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Quote:

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do you realize how unrelated everything you just wrote was in relation to what you quoted?

250lb strong guy?

COmpletely hypothetical situation?

THis is similar to an unarmed kid being shot how?

He made a blanket statement. I replied with an answer showing his statement could be easily shot down.

At no time did I claim it was related.

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#15998205 - 03/26/12 12:50 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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hell, if they had used the more "street" photos, then people would say the media was trying to make it look like he had it coming.

Good point. My issue here is strictly with the media's choice of photos. I couldn't care less about the actual story. It's a case of two people fighting to me. It's just interested watching it spin.

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#15998207 - 03/26/12 12:52 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

So your saying someone who is trying to look aggressive is pro only not aggressive.

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#15998212 - 03/26/12 12:54 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

If it was two people fighting i wouldnt really care.

I understand it is under investigation and time will tell what really happened.

I bet the shooter is in the wrong though.

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#15998214 - 03/26/12 12:55 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

And IMO I'm not going to give someone who looks like a thug respect. I give a shit who he emulates, white or black a dumbass is a dumb ass.

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#15998215 - 03/26/12 12:55 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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From what I gathered... the guy followed the kid when he was told not to.

He was not "told not to"

They said "We don’t need you to do that." [2:26]

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#15998223 - 03/26/12 12:59 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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So your saying someone who is trying to look aggressive is pro only not aggressive.

No.

But it doesnt always mean they are agressive.
HAve you ever seen a baby make a mean face?

Do you understand how influencial we are in our younger years?

Making an aggresive face is not a crime .
We are also talking about a person who made the face when posting for a picture which is VERY common.

I am not stating anything as an absolute truth here.

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#15998226 - 03/26/12 01:00 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Quote:

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Quote:

Hologram said:
do you realize how unrelated everything you just wrote was in relation to what you quoted?

250lb strong guy?

COmpletely hypothetical situation?

THis is similar to an unarmed kid being shot how?

He made a blanket statement. I replied with an answer showing his statement could be easily shot down.

At no time did I claim it was related.

"I replied with an answer that i at no time claimed was related."

Ahh, ok then.

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#15998227 - 03/26/12 01:00 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Haha yes, I wonder why the media didn't use the shirtless photo of him flipping off the camera. jesus christ

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#15998229 - 03/26/12 01:01 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Can't stand being wrong?

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#15998230 - 03/26/12 01:02 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Hologram said:
Quote:

Vahunter said:
So your saying someone who is trying to look aggressive is pro only not aggressive.

No.

But it doesnt always mean they are agressive.
HAve you ever seen a baby make a mean face?

...

Making an aggresive face is not a crime .
We are also talking about a person who made the face when posting for a picture which is VERY common.

I am not stating anything as an absolute truth here.

I've seen babies make a mean face, but I've never seen a baby shoot up double middle fingers, pull his pants down to his thighs, and sneer, emulating rappers who rap about poppin' off their nine's at fools. :lol:

(Just playing devil's advocate)

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#15998233 - 03/26/12 01:02 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Stop talking nonsense!

THe media are just trying to put a spin on the story so people will feel bad for this ruthless thug.

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#15998237 - 03/26/12 01:04 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

What happens when someone puts up $100,000 for the head of the black panther? They don't want to go there, it's a fight they can not win.

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#15998240 - 03/26/12 01:05 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

ugh this zimmerman guy just seems like he was on a power trip from being the "captain" of neighborhood watch...

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#15998241 - 03/26/12 01:05 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

I can't wait to hear the verdict on this.

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#15998243 - 03/26/12 01:06 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Can't stand being wrong?

Is this another one of those "completely unrelated" statements?

I don't think you're wrong and wouldn't know if you could stand it or not.

You should be able too though, you're only human brah.

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#15998254 - 03/26/12 01:09 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Can't stand being wrong?

I going to assume that isn't directed at me. I'm sorry that I did not say the words correctly. I said from what I gathered. I was just giving my thoughts. And from reading further it was self defense, but the kid was shot in the back? Odd. But I did also read that the Zimmerman fellow was banged up a bit too.
Regardless... still don't think Trayvon needed to die that day.

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#15998256 - 03/26/12 01:10 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

sorry

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#15998258 - 03/26/12 01:10 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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I can't wait to hear the verdict on this.

Me neither. Is America finally waking up to what it means to have a separation of powers, or will they continue to endorse one-man cop-judge-executioner operations?

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#15998259 - 03/26/12 01:11 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

When you paraphrase my words, in quotes, you're being at the best... disingenuous.

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#15998260 - 03/26/12 01:11 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Its ok though because i never claimed not to be.

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#15998261 - 03/26/12 01:11 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Chespirito said:
Haha yes, I wonder why the media didn't use the shirtless photo of him flipping off the camera. jesus christ

It's not that just that, I mean yeah they're not going to use that as the main representation, but they revert back to the cute, short kid, and not the 6'3" football player he was during the incident. Of course that's going to make people see him as an innocent little boy when that's how you're representing him. Gangsta photos aside, it's a total skewing.

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#15998267 - 03/26/12 01:12 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Quote:

SiQnasTy said:
Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Can't stand being wrong?

I going to assume that isn't directed at me. I'm sorry that I did not say the words correctly. I said from what I gathered. I was just giving my thoughts. And from reading further it was self defense, but the kid was shot in the back? Odd. But I did also read that the Zimmerman fellow was banged up a bit too.
Regardless... still don't think Trayvon needed to die that day.

Seeing as my reply has at the top re:Hologram... no. It was not directed at you.

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#15998268 - 03/26/12 01:13 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Its ok though because i never claimed not to be.

You have a strange idea of OK.

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#15998271 - 03/26/12 01:14 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

I agree.

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#15998276 - 03/26/12 01:15 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

More Importantly will the double standard be abolished. Doubtful with holder having a day in this.

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#15998284 - 03/26/12 01:19 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

How about that white boy in newyork who was set on fire on his front porch. Where was jessie Jackson and the funky bunch then. I bet they were smiling when they heard the three black kids were shouting "this is what you get white boy".

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#15998293 - 03/26/12 01:21 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

... When was this? Maybe a link or something. I'm curious to read.

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#15998303 - 03/26/12 01:24 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2110078/Boy-13-doused-gasoline-set-alight-racially-motivated-attack-Kansas-City.html

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#15998310 - 03/26/12 01:26 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Hologram said:

THose pictures both look like an innocent kid to me.

DEfinately nothing that makes me think he's a dangerous criminal. Especially with his size and lack of weaponry.

Yes I find that intriguing too. I don't see the "menacing threat" the other pictures allegedly show. I just see an innocent looking teen, who on the latter pics tries to look tough.

There apparently is a magical age African American boys go through where they cease to be perceived as youths and from then on are percieved as hardened criminals and violent thugs. :nonono:

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#15998321 - 03/26/12 01:28 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Its not just black americans, its all people - mostly males. 17 year old males are among the most violent and dangerous demographics on the planet.

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#15998336 - 03/26/12 01:33 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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17 year old males are among the most violent and dangerous demographics on the planet.

I mod here, I know right :lol:

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#15998356 - 03/26/12 01:37 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Huh.

Trayvon Martin shooting: George Zimmerman says Trayvon decked him, then began hammering his head, police say

By Rene Stutzman, Orlando Sentinel

12:18 p.m. EDT, March 26, 2012

With a single punch, Trayvon Martin decked the Neighborhood Watch volunteer who eventually shot and killed the unarmed 17-year-old, then Trayvon climbed on top of George Zimmerman and slammed his head into the sidewalk several times, leaving him bloody and battered, authorities have revealed to the Orlando Sentinel.

That is the account Zimmerman gave police, and much of it has been corroborated by witnesses, authorities say.

Zimmerman has not spoken publicly about what happened, but that night, Feb. 26, and in later meetings he described and re-enacted for police what he says happened.

In his version of events, he had turned around and was walking back to his SUV when Trayvon approached him from behind, the two exchanged words then Trayvon punched him in the nose, sending him to the ground, and began beating him.

Zimmerman told police he shot the teenager in self-defense.

Civil rights leaders and thousands of others have demanded Zimmerman's arrest, calling Trayvon a victim of racial profiling and Zimmerman a vigilante.

Trayvon was an unarmed black teenager who had committed no crime, they say, who was gunned down while walking back from a 7-Eleven with nothing more sinister than a package of Skittles and can of Arizona iced tea.

Supporters have held rallies in Sanford, Miami, New York and Tallahassee, calling the case a tragic miscarriage of injustice.

Activist Al Sharpton headlined a rally in Sanford Thursday that drew an estimated 8,000 people. The Rev. Jesse Jackson yesterday spoke at an Eatonville church, where he called Trayvon a martyr.

Another rally is scheduled for 4 p.m. today in Sanford.

Zimmerman has gone into hiding. A fringe group, the New Black Panthers, have offered a $10,000 reward for his capture.

Police have been reluctant to provided details about all their evidence, but this is what they've disclosed to the Sentinel:

Zimmerman was on his way to the grocery store when he spotted Trayvon walking through his gated community.

Trayvon was visiting his father's fiancée, who lived there. He had been suspended from school in Miami after being found with an empty marijuana baggie. Miami schools have a zero-tolerance policy for drug possession.

Zimmerman called police and reported a suspicious person, describing Trayvon as black, acting strangely and perhaps on drugs.

Zimmerman got out of his SUV to follow Trayvon on foot. When a dispatch employee asked Zimmerman if he was following the 17-year-old, Zimmerman said yes. The dispatcher told Zimmerman he did not need to do that.

There is about a one-minute gap during which police say they're not sure what happened.

Zimmerman told them he lost sight of Trayvon and was walking back to his SUV when Trayvon approached him from the left rear, and they exchanged words.

Trayvon asked Zimmerman if he had a problem. Zimmerman said no and reached for his cell phone, he told police.

Trayvon then said, "Well, you do now" or something similar and punched Zimmerman in the nose.

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#15998370 - 03/26/12 01:41 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Zimmerman got out of his SUV to follow Trayvon on foot. When a dispatch employee asked Zimmerman if he was following the 17-year-old, Zimmerman said yes. The dispatcher told Zimmerman he did not need to do that.

That's it right there. I don't care however which way you turn it, but that was just plain stupid. If you go about following people around, making calls, then it's pretty obvious that you're going to bring yourself into a position of conflict. And then you better be capable of dealing with such a situation. If you listen to Zimmerman's 9-11 call, you can tell that he's scared as fuck and doesn't really know what to do, but he's convinced that something needs to be done. Ignorant, inexperienced, terrified people make bad decisions in situations like these.

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#15998385 - 03/26/12 01:43 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Yup. Zimmerman was stupid.

That doesn't make him a racist murderer though as so many have claimed.

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#15998416 - 03/26/12 01:50 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

I agree. Although there's no doubt in my mind that Zimmerman's fear was induced by some stereotypical image of violent black youths. I doubt if he had acted the same way if everything was the same except that the kid's skin would have been white. It'll be impossible to prove though. And irrelevant as well.

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#15998422 - 03/26/12 01:52 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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#15998427 - 03/26/12 01:53 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
Yup. Zimmerman was stupid.

That doesn't make him a racist murderer though as so many have claimed.

This is correct, he was stupid for sure. If one sees potential criminal activity in their neighborhood, call the police and stay inside the home. If someone is on your property, different story.

Zimmerman most likely got attacked for no good reason and was fighting for his life, to save his life, he used his gun, that is the case we are debating.

He did not get arrested because he used self defense, he is not a murderer or racist, he is a man that got into a difficult situation and saved his own life on pure instinct.

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#15998439 - 03/26/12 01:56 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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koraks said:
I agree. Although there's no doubt in my mind that Zimmerman's fear was induced by some stereotypical image of violent black youths. I doubt if he had acted the same way if everything was the same except that the kid's skin would have been white. It'll be impossible to prove though. And irrelevant as well.

Except that he made 50-some calls over the years, few about blacks, some about Hispanics (of which he is one).

I think he was just a cop-wanna-be who got overly excited.

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#15998545 - 03/26/12 02:20 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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koraks said:
Although there's no doubt in my mind that Zimmerman's fear was induced by some stereotypical image of violent black youths.

No doubt huh? That makes me think that you might the one influenced by a stereotypical image...

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#15998569 - 03/26/12 02:23 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

He might the one but probably is too.

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#15998612 - 03/26/12 02:32 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

This is stupid. The number of white knights trying to stand up for this kid when they don't know all of the facts in the case makes every one of them the dancing media monkeys they want them to be.

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#15998619 - 03/26/12 02:35 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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DieCommie said:
Quote:

koraks said:
Although there's no doubt in my mind that Zimmerman's fear was induced by some stereotypical image of violent black youths.

No doubt huh? That makes me think that you might the one influenced by a stereotypical image...

Absolutely. Show me the man who is entirely free of prejudice.

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#15998622 - 03/26/12 02:35 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Zimmerman was probably a bit of a douch, but I don't know the guy... :confused:

Trayvon seems a bit gangsteh kiddah... I think it's stupid how they show his 12y/o pics... derp

Don't really care though, this shit happens every day.

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#15998631 - 03/26/12 02:38 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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koraks said:
Quote:

DieCommie said:
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koraks said:
Although there's no doubt in my mind that Zimmerman's fear was induced by some stereotypical image of violent black youths.

No doubt huh? That makes me think that you might the one influenced by a stereotypical image...

Absolutely. Show me the man who is entirely free of prejudice.

Why? What does claiming everybody has a bit of prejudice have to do with this case?

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#15998640 - 03/26/12 02:40 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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abltsandwich said:
This is stupid. The number of white knights trying to stand up for this kid when they don't know all of the facts in the case makes every one of them the dancing media monkeys they want them to be.

Are you talking about the people who want vengeance against Zimmerman or the people trying to prevent Zimmerman's lynching? Your statement could apply equally to both groups.

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#15998652 - 03/26/12 02:43 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Its funny about the pictures because I was watching a news report like 15 minutes ago and they showed like 5 pics of this kid and they seemed to be him at a younger age.

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#15998659 - 03/26/12 02:45 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Quote:

psychotropicwhale said:
Quote:

abltsandwich said:
This is stupid. The number of white knights trying to stand up for this kid when they don't know all of the facts in the case makes every one of them the dancing media monkeys they want them to be.

Are you talking about the people who want vengeance against Zimmerman or the people trying to prevent Zimmerman's lynching? Your statement could apply equally to both groups.

It does apply to both groups. The only sources of information in this case are media reports. We all [should] know that media is biased and unreliable, giving sensationalism priority over everything else. It's retarded to call for this guy's head on a stake, just as equally stupid is trying to paint the kid who got shot as deserving. No one in this thread was there at the time and no one should be trying to stand up for either party without the FULL story. This is a case of media spin combined with what people want to believe. I'd think a board full of self-proclaimed enlightened people (trippers) wouldn't be so easily manipulated by the media but this is proof that no one is immune.

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#15998668 - 03/26/12 02:47 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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DieCommie said:
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koraks said:
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koraks said:
Although there's no doubt in my mind that Zimmerman's fear was induced by some stereotypical image of violent black youths.

No doubt huh? That makes me think that you might the one influenced by a stereotypical image...

Absolutely. Show me the man who is entirely free of prejudice.

Why? What does claiming everybody has a bit of prejudice have to do with this case?

A lot. Firstly, you observe that I'm prejudiced in the way I think about Zimmerman, which I assure you is correct. So the observation you appeared to make in a sort of accusatory fashion is, in fact, nothing but an innocent observation of the human nature. Secondly, my argument is that Zimmerman was prejudiced which led him to act this way. I also mentioned that it would be irrelevant to prove that - after all, we're all prejudiced, so what gives?

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#15998674 - 03/26/12 02:48 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Indeed, no one is immune.

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#15998691 - 03/26/12 02:53 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

I wonder where that 10k comes from

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#15998751 - 03/26/12 03:09 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

More complete fucking idiots in the echo chamber!

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#15998771 - 03/26/12 03:14 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

When you guys are out working to collect the bounty, don't forget to wear your official lynch Zimmerman apparel.

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#15998783 - 03/26/12 03:19 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

I wonder what kind of conniving, world-raping, human-rights-oppressing, back-room deals are being done by our governments now that the media circus is focused on this all important story.

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#15998871 - 03/26/12 03:40 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2012/03/trayvon_martin_no_thats_not_hi.php

The "gangster" photo is most likely not the same Trayvon Martin that was shot.

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#15998901 - 03/26/12 03:47 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

This is stupid, it has nothing to do with race, i'm sure didn't kill him because he's black. but it's just another example African American racist ploys, and the liberal media helping them out. It's sickening and it disgusts me. African Americans are really the only group of people keeping racism alive.

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#15998937 - 03/26/12 03:55 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

If black people don't want to get shot and/or stalked by armed gunmen, they should start dressing like Orville Redenbacher.

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#15998956 - 03/26/12 03:58 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Quote:

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This is stupid. The number of white knights trying to stand up for this kid when they don't know all of the facts in the case makes every one of them the dancing media monkeys they want them to be.

Except few are, myself included.

Many are just not rushing to pass judgement.

The number of dark knights trying to condemn this guy when they don't know all of the facts in the case makes every one of them the dancing media monkeys they want them to be

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#15998977 - 03/26/12 04:02 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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If black people don't want to get shot and/or stalked by armed gunmen, they should start dressing like Orville Redenbacher.

Orville is scary. Many might be more likely to shoot.

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#15998984 - 03/26/12 04:03 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

I don't care what the kid did. The guy murdered him. He was unarmed and screaming for help.

What more do you need to know? What does it matter what he was dressed like? Someone ran up and murdered him because he was walking down the street. I don't care if he set the guys house on fire the day before, you don't just run up and shoot someone like that.

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#15999013 - 03/26/12 04:08 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Except I believe the witnesses say it was Zimmerman screaming for help.

I'm not sure though. I'll look.

But self defense isn't murder.

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#15999015 - 03/26/12 04:09 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

You shouldn't be coming to conclusions if you don't even know the details.

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You shouldn't be coming to conclusions if you don't even know the details.

Pot, meet kettle.

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#15999040 - 03/26/12 04:14 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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the irony is almost too thick. that "gangsta punk" photo is not him.

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#15999081 - 03/26/12 04:24 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Even in that supposedly tough photo of him, he looks like a child.

He was unarmed. Zimmerman had a gun.
He did nothing wrong initially so Zimmerman could not have seen him do anything to even warrant a 911 call let alone enough to make going after an UNARMED KID.
If Zimmerman found himself in a violent confrontation, it was one he created. One that could not have possibly needed a fatal gunshot fired.

Who here HONESTLY believes he would have acted the same way if a nerdy looking white kid was running through the rain? Of course for a fair trial, one can't assume these things but cmon, guys. Trayvon was not a hardened criminal who was packing heat and looking for a fight. Zimmerman was the one with the gin, the one seeking out a confrontation.

Yes, it's irritating whenever interest groups get involved and things often get a biased twist but it doesn't change the simple fact that someone with a gun went after an unarmed person who wasn't posing any immediate threat to anyone. It boggles my mind that people can really be defend Zimmerman in this situation.

Hardened criminal? :facepalm3:

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#15999082 - 03/26/12 04:24 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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I don't care what the kid did. The guy murdered him. He was unarmed and screaming for help.

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A witness, who did not see the shooting, said he saw a younger man on top of an older man and the older man was screaming for help.

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Sonner has not discussed with Zimmerman what happen the night of Trayvon Martin's murder, and he does not know who initiated the conflict that led to Trayvon's death. However, WOFL has located an eye witness to the fight between Zimmerman and Trayvon. The witness identifies himself only as John, and does not wish to be seen on camera, but he states in an audio interview that he saw Zimmerman and Trayvon fighting. "The guy on the bottom, who I believe had a red sweater on, was yelling to me - Help! Help!" By John's account, the voice we hear on the 911 recording screaming for help is the voice of George Zimmerman, who was wearing red that night.

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The initial police report of the incident says that an officer noticed that Zimmerman showed apparent signs of being in a struggle. "I could observe that his back appeared to be wet and was covered in grass, as if he had been laying on his back on the ground. Zimmerman was also bleeding from the nose and back of his head," the officer said in the report.

The report also said that while Zimmerman was getting first aid from the fire department, he said, "I was yelling for someone to help me, but no one would help me."

There are other stories claiming Martin was the screamer. It seems more likely to me though that the one being beaten would be the one screaming for help.

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#15999085 - 03/26/12 04:25 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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You shouldn't be coming to conclusions if you don't even know the details.

I've come to no conclusions. If you think I did, show me where I did so .

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#15999112 - 03/26/12 04:29 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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There are other stories claiming Martin was the screamer. It seems more likely to me though that the one being beaten would be the one screaming for help.

yeah, no bias there.

i'm sure zimmerman was just taking the beating and not fighting back, right?

couldn't possibly be the other way around.

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#15999117 - 03/26/12 04:30 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

What if the black panthers dressed up as cops and pretended to be night watch men like george zimmerman acted like and kidnapped him and built a make shift jail and held him somewhere in the woods and said they were not gonna release him unless the cops decided to charge him with first degree murder

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#15999129 - 03/26/12 04:32 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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What if the black panthers dressed up as cops and pretended to be night watch men like george zimmerman acted like and kidnapped him and built a make shift jail and held him somewhere in the woods and said they were not gonna release him unless the cops decided to charge him with first degree murder

This is the stupidest post in this thread and that's saying something.

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#15999135 - 03/26/12 04:35 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

http://www.truecrimereport.com/2009/10/teens_douse_15-year-old_michae.php another one, in florida back in 09. You don't ever hear about these on a national level though.

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There are other stories claiming Martin was the screamer. It seems more likely to me though that the one being beaten would be the one screaming for help.

yeah, no bias there.

i'm sure zimmerman was just taking the beating and not fighting back, right?

couldn't possibly be the other way around.

Nope. No bias. If there was I'd not have mentioned the other stories. It could have been the other way. Not having been there, I don't know personally and have to rely on the statements of the witnesses.

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#15999159 - 03/26/12 04:42 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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http://www.truecrimereport.com/2009/10/teens_douse_15-year-old_michae.php another one, in florida back in 09. You don't ever hear about these on a national level though.

if you can't see the differences between this case and the trayvon case, then you have no place discussing it.

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There are other stories claiming Martin was the screamer. It seems more likely to me though that the one being beaten would be the one screaming for help.

yeah, no bias there.

i'm sure zimmerman was just taking the beating and not fighting back, right?

couldn't possibly be the other way around.

Nope. No bias. If there was I'd not have mentioned the other stories. It could have been the other way. Not having been there, I don't know personally and have to rely on the statements of the witnesses.

no bias?

you implied that it was 100% zimmerman being beaten, and that it would seem strange for trayon (the beater) to be yelling, as if it couldn't have been zimmerman beating on trayvon.

yep, no bias at all.

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#15999172 - 03/26/12 04:45 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Yes One one a kid shot and one was a kid set on fire the only difference is race. did the black kids shout racial remarks. who the hell are you to say anything?

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#15999178 - 03/26/12 04:47 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Oh is it because i'm white? I have no doubt it is. I'm a tall strong white guy. Does that make my opinion worth less than yours?

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#15999184 - 03/26/12 04:47 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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you implied that it was 100% zimmerman being beaten, and that it would seem strange for trayon (the beater) to be yelling, as if it couldn't have been zimmerman beating on trayvon.

The witnesses made the claim, not me.

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yep, no bias at all.

Not from me anyway.

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#15999185 - 03/26/12 04:47 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Double standard^^

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#15999196 - 03/26/12 04:50 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Yes One one a kid shot and one was a kid set on fire the only difference is race. did the black kids shout racial remarks. who the hell are you to say anything?

yeah, you still don't get it. because, like others on here, who yell about how unfair lamestream media is, you buy into the other end of the spectrum.

the only difference is race? :foreheadslap:

couldn't possibly have anything to do with the fact that in the article you posted they apprehended, arrested, and likely charged those responsible, could it?

nah, the justice part of the equation doesn't matter. :wink:

also, not saying for sure that this zimmerman case is even racially motiviated (although it seems it could be), but the article you posted doesn't say much anything about racial motivation. it says they burned him because he wouldn't pay them money that he owed them.

stop applying one general lense to all cases involving murder and different races.

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#15999217 - 03/26/12 04:54 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

they shouted racial remarks , while they lit him on fire. Then laughed about it later. Hmmm..... I bet if he was black and people were shouting blackie at him while they lit him on fire or drug him behind a truck it would be racist right? I'm sure after that last comment you left, I have no further need to defend my position.

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#15999264 - 03/26/12 05:01 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

No, black panthers do not have the authority to dispense justice. If that's the case, why don't we bring back lynch mobs. That stuff needs to be left out of the equation. I'm telling you now this double standard we live in is only temporary. Our social system is so screwed up. If you want to look hard expect to go to jail and perceived as a threat. What are people thinking? I was always told if your going to do something bad, you do it the right way. Acting hard and "in the game" is not the right way. That's the way to get locked up or shot.

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#15999283 - 03/26/12 05:04 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

It is the same lense by the way. It's called life, It only comes with one lense.

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#15999320 - 03/26/12 05:09 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Vahunter said:
they shouted racial remarks , while they lit him on fire. Then laughed about it later. Hmmm..... I bet if he was black and people were shouting blackie at him while they lit him on fire or drug him behind a truck it would be racist right? I'm sure after that last comment you left, I have no further need to defend my position.

where does it say they shouted racial remarks? i'm not finding that anywhere in the article. it's possible i missed it, so point it out.

regardless, you still aren't grasping why this case has been blown up into what it currently is. this case wasn't receiving national attention until it came out that the police did an exceptionally lousy job investigating it.

as for your black panther remarks, i don't see anyone in this thread agreeing with their actions, so i have no clue who you're talking to.

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#15999332 - 03/26/12 05:12 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

They investigated it. It was within Florida law so says the police. Who are you to say otherwise?

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#15999350 - 03/26/12 05:16 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

Kada said:
You shouldn't be coming to conclusions if you don't even know the details.

I've come to no conclusions. If you think I did, show me where I did so .

Well Kada... going to come through? I'd love to see it.

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#15999374 - 03/26/12 05:19 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

And when did Zimmerman use any racial slurs. Who is the judge of whether or not this was racially motivated? If it's the black panthers or mass media, then it truly is a sad day in America.

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#15999375 - 03/26/12 05:19 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

are you going to address the first part of my post or just ignore it? because if you ignore it, i'm going to have to call you out for making up bullshit to push your agenda. the very same thing you accuse the media of doing.

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They investigated it. It was within Florida law so says the police. Who are you to say otherwise?

actually, there's a lot of debate whether it was within the florida law or not. pursuing a kid after being told not to by the police is pretty questionable.

and no, they didn't investigate it very thoroughly at all. they didn't even bother to look at the kid's cellphone. simply took zimmerman's side of the story at face value. that's lousy policework.

why are you so afraid of them looking deeper into this case? if what zimmerman said is the truth, there shouldn't be any problem, right? let the courts decide.

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#15999376 - 03/26/12 05:19 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Back in the old west when the police couldn't arrest a person they would form a Posse and go out and arrest the guy themselves. Maybe the black panthers think thats what they need to do because the police not only has failed to arrest the person but the police also kill black people

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#15999386 - 03/26/12 05:22 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

The dispatcher did not specifically order him not to pursue him. I though luvdemshrooms already covered this earlier in the conversation.

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actually, there's a lot of debate whether it was within the florida law or not. pursuing a kid after being told not to by the police is pretty questionable.

He wasn't told not to.

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and no, they didn't investigate it very thoroughly at all. they didn't even bother to look at the kid's cellphone. simply took zimmerman's side of the story at face value. that's lousy policework.

From a post Dipold made in another forum:

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From the Sanford PD FAQ:

Why was George Zimmerman not arrested the night of the shooting?

When the Sanford Police Department arrived at the scene of the incident, Mr. Zimmerman provided a statement claiming he acted in self defense which at the time was supported by physical evidence and testimony. By Florida Statute, law enforcement was PROHIBITED from making an arrest based on the facts and circumstances they had at the time. Additionally, when any police officer makes an arrest for any reason, the officer MUST swear and affirm that he/she is making the arrest in good faith and with probable cause. If the arrest is done maliciously and in bad faith, the officer and the city may be held liable.

According to Florida Statute 776.032 :
776.032 Immunity from criminal prosecution and civil action for justifiable use of force.

(1) A person who uses force as permitted in s. 776.012, s. 776.013, or s. 776.031 is justified in using such force and is immune from criminal prosecution and civil action for the use of such force, unless the person against whom force was used is a law enforcement officer, as defined in s. 943.10(14), who was acting in the performance of his or her official duties and the officer identified himself or herself in accordance with any applicable law or the person using force knew or reasonably should have known that the person was a law enforcement officer. As used in this subsection, the term “criminal prosecution” includes arresting, detaining in custody, and charging or prosecuting the defendant.

(2) A law enforcement agency may use standard procedures for investigating the use of force as described in subsection (1), but the agency may not arrest the person for using force unless it determines that there is probable cause that the force that was used was unlawful.

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#15999391 - 03/26/12 05:23 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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The dispatcher did not specifically order him not to pursue him. I though luvdemshrooms already covered this earlier in the conversation.

I have. several times. Seems some can only see what they want to see.

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#15999397 - 03/26/12 05:26 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

ah, the semantics debate. "we don't need you to do that" might as well mean "don't do that". great angle, though.

still waiting on that evidence of racial remarks, vahunter. or are you just full of shit?

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#15999400 - 03/26/12 05:26 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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The dispatcher did not specifically order him not to pursue him. I though luvdemshrooms already covered this earlier in the conversation.

Regardless, he pursued and created a confrontation with an unarmed individual. Why?

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#15999406 - 03/26/12 05:29 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

You know what OG, I take it back.
I hope the black panthers do go out and rip this hispanic guy from his home and burn him in the streets or hang him for the whole community to see. I'm getting sick of debating the same shit over and over. Go ahead, keep it up. Ya'll are doing great things for america.

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#15999408 - 03/26/12 05:30 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

You can't fix stupid!

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#15999411 - 03/26/12 05:31 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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ah, the semantics debate. "we don't need you to do that" might as well mean "don't do that". great angle, though.

It's not an angle. It's accurate. Word for word from the transcript.

Read it and weep.

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#15999417 - 03/26/12 05:31 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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You know what OG, I take it back.
I hope the black panthers do go out and rip this hispanic guy from his home and burn him in the streets or hang him for the whole community to see. I'm getting sick of debating the same shit over and over. Go ahead, keep it up. Ya'll are doing great things for america.

so you were just bullshitting about those racial remarks, huh?

nice strategy, though.

create bullshit > get called out on bullshit > nothing else to do but overact and act like people in this thread are supporting the black panthers actions.

you've got quite a brain on ya.

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#15999423 - 03/26/12 05:33 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
Yup. Zimmerman was stupid.

That doesn't make him a racist murderer though as so many have claimed.

Come again?

He says "Fucking Coon" in the phone call to 911
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/03/24/george-zimmerman-refers-to-trayvon-martin-as-a-fing-coon-during-911-call-audio/

I think we can put that argument to bed now.

1. Follows a kid coming back from the convenience store with a bag of skittles in his pocket
2. Calls 911, Calls him a "fucking coon" and "these assholes always get away".. is told not to follow him
3. Does anyway
4. Shoots the kid and kills him in cold blood
5. Is a racist murderer, wannabee failed cop

There's been a lot of bullshit around this, but one thing we can be sure of is that Zimmerman is a racist and saw himself as the neighborhood cop even though he had been denied to be a real cop.
He HAD NO REASON TO FOLLOW THE KID. 911 told him not to. He did anyway, confronted him and then killed him.
It's not self defense when you are the attacker
That. Is. Fucking. Murder.

And he's a racist.

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#15999435 - 03/26/12 05:35 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Go for it brother. No overreaction here. I legitimately hope that happens. :grin:

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#15999439 - 03/26/12 05:36 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Okay, but he still created the confrontation that ended with him shooting this unarmed person. How is he not in the wrong?

Also, anyone in support of the black panther putting a bounty on him are absurd. I'm sure we can all agree that extremist interest groups are terrible. Doesn't change what happened to initially cause this though.

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#15999445 - 03/26/12 05:37 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

The name of the thread- New black panther party to give 10,000 for the capture of that guy who shot that black kid

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#15999472 - 03/26/12 05:44 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

And the remarks are about the one in kansas that i thought occured in new york.

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#15999478 - 03/26/12 05:46 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Vahunter said:
Any thoughts? It stirs anger in me. These guys are like the clan, why does one group of people get a Pass when it comes to their own idea of justice. They are trying to start a war.

Black Panthers don't get a pass from any credible authority.

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#15999491 - 03/26/12 05:51 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Holder gave them a pass in 08, when they were comitting voter intimidation. Didn't they? What America do you people live in?

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#15999497 - 03/26/12 05:53 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

It's sad when you go through my comments and pick them apart and are still wrong. Can't fix stupid. Don't worry it's not your fault it's the white man's fault for setting you up in a failing education system. Right?

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#15999524 - 03/26/12 05:59 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Shroomism said:
I think we can put that argument to bed now.

Nope.

Quote:

1. Follows a kid coming back from the convenience store with a bag of skittles in his pocket

well, you got that one correct.

Quote:

2. Calls 911, Calls him a "fucking coon" and "these assholes always get away".. is told not to follow him

1/3 a point for the "assholes" comment. Wrong about the rest.

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3. Does anyway

No "anyway" about it as he wasn't told not to.

Quote:

4. Shoots the kid and kills him in cold blood

Shooting in self defense is not "in cold blood".

Quote:

5. Is a racist murderer, wannabee failed cop

Wannabe? Probably. The rest is speculation on your part.

Quote:

There's been a lot of bullshit around this, but one thing we can be sure of is that Zimmerman is a racist and saw himself as the neighborhood cop even though he had been denied to be a real cop.

No-one has proven he's a racist. His friends (including blacks) say he is not. Care to provide us with proof?

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He HAD NO REASON TO FOLLOW THE KID.

IDing him to the cops is a valid reason.

Quote:

911 told him not to.

No. They didn't tell him not to. Did you even read the transcript?

Quote:

He did anyway, confronted him and then killed him.

"Anyway" doesn't apply as he wasn't told not to.

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It's not self defense when you are the attacker

I haven't seen any witness to the event claim Zimmerman attacked Martin. Could you link us to one that has?

Quote:

That. Is. Fucking. Murder.

No. It's. Self. Defense. Until. Proven. Otherwise.

Quote:

And he's a racist.

Prove it.

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#15999529 - 03/26/12 06:00 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Hologram said:
do you realize how unrelated everything you just wrote was in relation to what you quoted?

250lb strong guy?

COmpletely hypothetical situation?

THis is similar to an unarmed kid being shot how?

he's not a kid, under florida law at the age of 17 he can be tried as an
adult for his crimes. at 6'3" he's a grown damn man

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#15999538 - 03/26/12 06:02 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Prove it was self-defense.

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#15999543 - 03/26/12 06:03 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Quote:

BlindSophist said:
Quote:

Vahunter said:
Any thoughts? It stirs anger in me. These guys are like the clan, why does one group of people get a Pass when it comes to their own idea of justice. They are trying to start a war.

Black Panthers don't get a pass from any credible authority.

except Eric Holder, Attorney General of the United States as he dropped the
charges of voter intimidation against 2 black panthers that were armed and
standing in front of a polling place. the incident was on tape

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#15999545 - 03/26/12 06:04 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Prove it was self-defense.

No-one has to prove it under Florida law. It must be proven that it wasn't.

You know... the whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing.

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#15999550 - 03/26/12 06:04 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

BlindSophist said:
Quote:

Vahunter said:
Any thoughts? It stirs anger in me. These guys are like the clan, why does one group of people get a Pass when it comes to their own idea of justice. They are trying to start a war.

Black Panthers don't get a pass from any credible authority.

except Eric Holder, Attorney General of the United States as he dropped the
charges of voter intimidation against 2 black panthers that were armed and
standing in front of a polling place. the incident was on tape

Funny how many people have forgotten??? about that little tidbit.

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#15999563 - 03/26/12 06:08 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

And so you're going to blame it on race instead of good, old-fashioned, (mixed-race) autocracy.

Sounds like a great way to get to the root of the problem! Just keep whining about black people who demonize white people! Then maybe we'll have a corruption-free government! :wow:

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#15999566 - 03/26/12 06:08 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Bodhi of Ankou said:
Prove it was self-defense.

it's not my duty to prove it was self defense. it's going to the grand jury,
18-23 people who will decide if an indictment will be issued. things are
looking less favorable for the young man though since it's coming out that
trayvon was booted out of school for drugs, he's a known drug dealer by his
facebook pages...

looks pretty bad for a case against zimmerman as this wears on

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#15999576 - 03/26/12 06:09 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:

Bodhi of Ankou said:
Prove it was self-defense.

No-one has to prove it under Florida law. It must be proven that it wasn't.

You know... the whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing.

So theoretically under such a law one only has to ensure there are no witness's and they got a free pass to murder at their own discretion. What a perversion of law. Also him being a known drug dealer and getting kicked out of school have absolutely no bearing on the circumstances of his murder, nothing but cheap attempts at charcter assassination.

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#15999581 - 03/26/12 06:10 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Wild child, you really rated me as having an agenda. I was mistaken I thought it was a different story. Where they poured gasoline on the kid. In the one I posted it was alcohol, but I think someone else posted the right story already on page 2or3. I have no agenda, I think it'll be funny when the black panthers strike out. That's not my agenda, that's the black panthers. Sorry, that your culture is flawed to the point that many people can't think for themselves and must rely on Rev jackson and the funky bunch or the liberal media to think for you. Then you get so butt hurt to hear an opinion that's not your own. I guess we should blame my great great great great grandfather then. LOL. I've met plenty of black dudes I respect, but most don't walk around whining and crying about shit. Get a backbone.

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#15999603 - 03/26/12 06:13 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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So theoretically under such a law one only has to ensure there are no witness's and they got a free pass to murder at their own discretion. What a perversion of law. Also him being a known drug dealer and getting kicked out of school have absolutely no bearing on the circumstances of his murder, nothing but cheap attempts at charcter assassination.

um... no because the ME always does an autopsy in cases like this, the
evidence has to match the statements given, when they dont or deception
is obvious then an arrest is made, when they do, there are no arrests

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#15999608 - 03/26/12 06:14 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

It wouldnt be anymore difficult then planting a knife on said victim, acting the part, and keeping your story straight.

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#15999615 - 03/26/12 06:15 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Quote:

BlindSophist said:
And so you're going to blame it on race instead of good, old-fashioned, (mixed-race) autocracy.

Sounds like a great way to get to the root of the problem! Just keep whining about black people who demonize white people! Then maybe we'll have a corruption-free government!

I didn't blame anything on race. It'd be equally as crappy had Holder done the old "wink-wink" to the KKK.

Wrong is wrong.

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#15999623 - 03/26/12 06:18 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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It wouldnt be anymore difficult then planting a knife on said victim.

again... wrong, the evidence has to match, dont think that this is the 50s
where a knife wont be checked for finger prints and fiber evidence, unless
it's brand new in the box when it's planted then something of you would be
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#15999624 - 03/26/12 06:18 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

It was not necessarily directed at you, but at anyone who makes this about the Black Panthers instead of systemic corruption.

Holder would have given a free pass to the KKK if they had helped his guy get elected.

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#15999627 - 03/26/12 06:18 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Bodhi of Ankou said:
Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:

Bodhi of Ankou said:
Prove it was self-defense.

No-one has to prove it under Florida law. It must be proven that it wasn't.

You know... the whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing.

So theoretically under such a law one only has to ensure there are no witness's and they got a free pass to murder at their own discretion. What a perversion of law. Also him being a known drug dealer and getting kicked out of school have absolutely no bearing on the circumstances of his murder, nothing but cheap attempts at charcter assassination.

I didn't write the law. I'm just well aware of what it is and how it works.

I happen to like the "presumption of innocence".

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#15999641 - 03/26/12 06:20 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Holder would have given a free pass to the KKK if they had helped his guy get elected.

they didnt get a pass

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#15999642 - 03/26/12 06:21 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

I don't have much to add to this discussion.....but directed at luvdemshrooms......the dispatcher saying "we don't need you to do that" really is basically saying don't do that. I'm not taking sides as a whole but in regards to that one argument of yours I feel like you are overy focused on the semantics of that in order to back your claim. When I got arrested a year ago for possession the cop said "can you please place your hands behind your back" that doesn't mean that I had an option as to whether or not I would do it. It's the same in this instance.

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#15999651 - 03/26/12 06:23 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Bodhi of Ankou said:
So theoretically under such a law one only has to ensure there are no witness's and they got a free pass to murder at their own discretion. What a perversion of law.

It's the same in states without the stand you ground law. Minus witnesses (and other evidence) a murderer will always get a free pass. If the evidence proves otherwise, so be it.

Quote:

Also him being a known drug dealer and getting kicked out of school have absolutely no bearing on the circumstances of his murder, nothing but cheap attempts at charcter assassination.

I agree it seems that way. I'm not aware of why he was kicked out of school though. I've heard two different stories. One was pot. The other was he struck a bus driver. I have no idea which is true.

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#15999667 - 03/26/12 06:25 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Gmo said:
I don't have much to add to this discussion.....but directed at luvdemshrooms......the dispatcher saying "we don't need you to do that" really is basically saying don't do that. I'm not taking sides as a whole but in regards to that one argument of yours I feel like you are overy focused on the semantics of that in order to back your claim. When I got arrested a year ago for possession the cop said "can you please place your hands behind your back" that doesn't mean that I had an option as to whether or not I would do it. It's the same in this instance.

Yes, because words have no meaning.

What a load of crap.

It's really basically saying "we don't need you to do that". Nothing more or less.

Or are you another mind reader?

Many of you remind me of those that say (in a relationship) Oh... you should know what I mean!

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#15999688 - 03/26/12 06:29 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:

Gmo said:
I don't have much to add to this discussion.....but directed at luvdemshrooms......the dispatcher saying "we don't need you to do that" really is basically saying don't do that. I'm not taking sides as a whole but in regards to that one argument of yours I feel like you are overy focused on the semantics of that in order to back your claim. When I got arrested a year ago for possession the cop said "can you please place your hands behind your back" that doesn't mean that I had an option as to whether or not I would do it. It's the same in this instance.

Yes, because words have no meaning.

What a load of crap.

It's really basically saying "we don't need you to do that". Nothing more or less.

Or are you another mind reader?

Many of you remind me of those that say (in a relationship) Oh... you should know what I mean!

Ok so in the instance of my arrest, based on your logic I could have refused placing my hands behind my back??? Seeing as how the semantics of the officer's words deemed it a possibility it was up to me ultimately whether or not I was arrested?? I'm not a mind reader, nor am I claiming to be, I'm just saying based on the way people interact with one another I don't think it's a stretch to assume that by saying "we don't need you to do that" the dispatcher was basically saying don't do that. But just to clarify you're arguing that the dispatcher was presenting Zimmerman with an option as to whether or not he could pursue him??

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#15999692 - 03/26/12 06:30 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Gmo said:
I don't have much to add to this discussion.....but directed at luvdemshrooms......the dispatcher saying "we don't need you to do that" really is basically saying don't do that.

isnt trayvon's girl saying "you need to run" basically like telling trayvon he should run away?

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When I got arrested a year ago for possession the cop said "can you please place your hands behind your back" that doesn't mean that I had an option as to whether or not I would do it. It's the same in this instance.

it's not the same, first, you were under arrest, he was not, second, he was
trained by the county sheriffs office as a neighborhood watch patrolman, in
the charter that's what he's obligated to do is follow that suspicious
looking guy and call the cops, this aids the cops in apprehension. there's
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#15999700 - 03/26/12 06:31 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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#15999714 - 03/26/12 06:34 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

I said no such thing. How incredibly weak.

I'm not going to guess what the officer that arrested you meant, anymore than I'm going to guess what the dispatcher meant. You were there, I'm reasonably sure his body language and demeanor let you know exactly what he meant. How the fuck can you try and compare an arrest to a 911 call?

Really?

The dispatcher did not instruct Zimmerman to not follow. Her words are clear. Even if she had I don't believe he was under any legal obligation to do so.

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#15999715 - 03/26/12 06:34 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

But the watch program he's in isn't actually recognized by law enforcement, so I don't think he was formally trained. He might of been, if he was I'd like to see your sources, from what I've read the watch group wasn't necessarily official......and in my opinion it is the same thing. It's an argument of semantics, that's what luvdemshrooms is saying, why would the officer's position have anything to do with the semantics of his word choice and how they should be interpreted??

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#15999717 - 03/26/12 06:34 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Hologram said:

THose pictures both look like an innocent kid to me.

DEfinately nothing that makes me think he's a dangerous criminal. Especially with his size and lack of weaponry.

Yes I find that intriguing too. I don't see the "menacing threat" the other pictures allegedly show. I just see an innocent looking teen, who on the latter pics tries to look tough.

There apparently is a magical age African American boys go through where they cease to be perceived as youths and from then on are percieved as hardened criminals and violent thugs.

Yes. It is the age when they start beating the fuck out of somebody. I'm not sure about it being magic, though.

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#15999728 - 03/26/12 06:37 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

There is nothing illegal about following someone. Nor is it aggressive, per se. Oddly the Holder/Hoodie Justice Department saw nothing intimidating about Black Panthers standing with truncheons outside a voting booth. Funny that.

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#15999751 - 03/26/12 06:42 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

If it's an argument based purely on semantics than the situation is irrelevant.

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If it's an argument based purely on semantics than the situation is irrelevant.

Despite what seems to be your wish, words have meaning.

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#15999759 - 03/26/12 06:44 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Semantics is the study of meaning. Which is a kind of important feature of communication. Without it, it is just babble.

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#15999777 - 03/26/12 06:49 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

ok.

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But the watch program he's in isn't actually recognized by law enforcement, so I don't think he was formally trained.

he was formally trained by the county sheriffs department, no one is claiming
he was a cop, no one is making the claim that he was trying to be a cop

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He might of been, if he was I'd like to see your sources, from what I've read the watch group wasn't necessarily official......and in my opinion it is the same thing. It's an argument of semantics, that's what luvdemshrooms is saying, why would the officer's position have anything to do with the semantics of his word choice and how they should be interpreted??

one source out of more than a dozen 'sanctioning' bodies claim this
neighborhood watch isnt 'official'. what makes one official, paying dues to
a national organization, buying their crap and making someone wealthy for
recognizing you as a neighborhood watch chapter?

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2012/0324/Who-is-George-Zimmerman-and-why-did-he-shoot-Trayvon-Martin

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But Zimmerman's family, his neighbors and his lawyer paint a different picture: That of a devoted neighbor, keen enough to protect the neighborhood that residents, in establishing a local Neighborhood Watch group last year, appointed him the captain. The organization was not registered with the national Neighborhood Watch program, but was set up with the assistance of the Sanford Police Department. Zimmerman initiated the program, according to Wendy Dorival, the department's volunteer coordinator.

"Mr. Zimmerman was not acting outside the legal boundaries of Florida Statute by carrying his weapon when this incident occurred," Sanford Police Chief Bill Lee said recently. "He was in fact on a personal errand in his vehicle when he observed Mr. Martin in the community and called the Sanford Police Department."

The chief has also said Zimmerman had no legal duty to heed a dispatcher's warning to stay put instead of following Trayvon on foot.

Having worked in the past as a car salesman, Zimmerman became interested in becoming a police officer. In 2008, he attended a four-month course at the local sheriff's department.

In his application for the course, Zimmerman wrote: "I hold law enforcement officers in the highest regard and I hope to one day become one."

More recently, he was taking law enforcement courses at Seminole State College, where he had earlier studied to become an insurance agent. After the shooting, the college said it had “taken the unusual but necessary step ... to withdraw” Zimmerman from the campus, citing concerns about safety for Zimmerman and other students.

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Prisoner#1 said:

Quote:

But Zimmerman's family, his neighbors and his lawyer paint a different picture: That of a devoted neighbor, keen enough to protect the neighborhood that residents, in establishing a local Neighborhood Watch group last year, appointed him the captain. The organization was not registered with the national Neighborhood Watch program, but was set up with the assistance of the Sanford Police Department. Zimmerman initiated the program, according to Wendy Dorival, the department's volunteer coordinator.

"Mr. Zimmerman was not acting outside the legal boundaries of Florida Statute by carrying his weapon when this incident occurred," Sanford Police Chief Bill Lee said recently. "He was in fact on a personal errand in his vehicle when he observed Mr. Martin in the community and called the Sanford Police Department."

The chief has also said Zimmerman had no legal duty to heed a dispatcher's warning to stay put instead of following Trayvon on foot.

Having worked in the past as a car salesman, Zimmerman became interested in becoming a police officer. In 2008, he attended a four-month course at the local sheriff's department.

In his application for the course, Zimmerman wrote: "I hold law enforcement officers in the highest regard and I hope to one day become one."

More recently, he was taking law enforcement courses at Seminole State College, where he had earlier studied to become an insurance agent. After the shooting, the college said it had “taken the unusual but necessary step ... to withdraw” Zimmerman from the campus, citing concerns about safety for Zimmerman and other students.

What a racist asshole!

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#15999823 - 03/26/12 07:02 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

I never said anything about him being racist.....I'm not even sure if anyone in this entire thread said anything about him being racist, they might of but I don't think they did.

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#15999836 - 03/26/12 07:05 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

I never claimed you did.

However, a "show all" followed by a "find" will show others did. In this thread and the two others I am aware of on this topic.

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#15999840 - 03/26/12 07:07 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

I'm sorry, whats the argument?

At best he accidentally shot an unarmed kid who was running away... At best. At worst he provoked a situation and shot an unarmed kid in cold blood.
'That's racist' and what a 911 operator told him to do is irrelevant.

He shot an unarmed kid, to me thats a crime.

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#15999859 - 03/26/12 07:13 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Actually it appears most likely that he shot an unarmed punk who was assaulting him.

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#15999869 - 03/26/12 07:15 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Actually it appears most likely that he shot an unarmed punk who was assaulting him.

It appears most likely that he aggressively pursued an unarmed kid in a semi-public space for no justifiable reason, was attacked in the name of "self-defense" on the part of the kid, and then overreacted to the situation with deadly force.

Typical cop-larva. :shrug:

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#15999897 - 03/26/12 07:21 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Lynnch said:
I'm sorry, whats the argument?

At best he accidentally shot an unarmed kid who was running away... At best. At worst he provoked a situation and shot an unarmed kid in cold blood.
'That's racist' and what a 911 operator told him to do is irrelevant.

He shot an unarmed kid, to me thats a crime.

He defended himself from someone who was trying to kill him, what should he have done? Let the kid pound his skull into the road?

If you thought your life was on the line, you would have done the same thing, he killed a very violent kid to save his own life.

The "kid" was armed with his fists and feet, not having a gun does not make him less dangerous.

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#15999961 - 03/26/12 07:33 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

I guess I haven't found a good account of the event.
In any case, the use of deadly force is a serious matter.

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#16000033 - 03/26/12 07:48 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Vahunter said:
Wild child, you really rated me as having an agenda. I was mistaken I thought it was a different story. Where they poured gasoline on the kid. In the one I posted it was alcohol, but I think someone else posted the right story already on page 2or3. I have no agenda, I think it'll be funny when the black panthers strike out. That's not my agenda, that's the black panthers. Sorry, that your culture is flawed to the point that many people can't think for themselves and must rely on Rev jackson and the funky bunch or the liberal media to think for you. Then you get so butt hurt to hear an opinion that's not your own. I guess we should blame my great great great great grandfather then. LOL. I've met plenty of black dudes I respect, but most don't walk around whining and crying about shit. Get a backbone.

wait, you think i'm black? :lol:

i got "butthurt" because you lied and then didn't own up to it for a while. that's cool you admit it now.

your doing a fine job of crying in this thread, though. so props for that, i guess.

you still don't see why a crime where they caught the criminals isn't the same as the one we are discussing here? you do realize there wasn't going to be any sort of trial for this case until it started getting all this attention, right?

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#16000054 - 03/26/12 07:54 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Lynnch said:
I'm sorry, whats the argument?

At best he accidentally shot an unarmed kid who was running away... At best. At worst he provoked a situation and shot an unarmed kid in cold blood.
'That's racist' and what a 911 operator told him to do is irrelevant.

He shot an unarmed kid, to me thats a crime.

Is there a reason so many people have the facts wrong?

He wasn't running away. He was pounding Zimmermans head onto the sidewalk.

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#16000068 - 03/26/12 07:57 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Quote:

BlindSophist said:
Quote:

zappaisgod said:
Actually it appears most likely that he shot an unarmed punk who was assaulting him.

It appears most likely that he aggressively pursued an unarmed kid in a semi-public space for no justifiable reason, was attacked in the name of "self-defense" on the part of the kid, and then overreacted to the situation with deadly force.

Typical cop-larva.

I most certainly have the right to follow anybody I want without the expectation that I will be attacked for it. For instance if you come into my neighborhood.

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#16000075 - 03/26/12 07:58 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Lynnch said:
I'm sorry, whats the argument?

At best he accidentally shot an unarmed kid who was running away...

he shot a man that was beating the hell out of him

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#16000081 - 03/26/12 08:00 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Quote:

zappaisgod said:
Quote:

BlindSophist said:
Quote:

zappaisgod said:
Actually it appears most likely that he shot an unarmed punk who was assaulting him.

It appears most likely that he aggressively pursued an unarmed kid in a semi-public space for no justifiable reason, was attacked in the name of "self-defense" on the part of the kid, and then overreacted to the situation with deadly force.

Typical cop-larva.

I most certainly have the right to follow anybody I want without the expectation that I will be attacked for it. For instance if you come into my neighborhood.

Do you live in a gated community too?

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#16000087 - 03/26/12 08:01 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Quote:

BlindSophist said:
Quote:

zappaisgod said:
Actually it appears most likely that he shot an unarmed punk who was assaulting him.

It appears most likely that he aggressively pursued an unarmed kid in a semi-public space for no justifiable reason, was attacked in the name of "self-defense" on the part of the kid, and then overreacted to the situation with deadly force.

Typical cop-larva.

how was this pursuit aggressive? since when does self defense mean yu can
turn and attack someone that hasnt proved themselves a threat as trayvon did
when he attacked zimmerman

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#16000098 - 03/26/12 08:03 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Nope. Although the property values are much higher

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Prisoner#1 said:
how was this pursuit aggressive? since when does self defense mean yu can
turn and attack someone that hasnt proved themselves a threat as trayvon did
when he attacked zimmerman

I find that kind of behavior pretty threatening. I suppose this dispute may well be decided by the courts.

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You'll probably feel threatened here. Because I'll be watching you.

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#16000150 - 03/26/12 08:11 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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You'll probably feel threatened here. Because I'll be watching you.

You sound like a great guy to have a beer with. :lol:

EDIT: BTW, I wasn't referring to passive neighborhood vigilance, I was referring to the stalking and then the chasing behavior. That's something different IMO.

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that pic reminds me of 2pacs picture when hes flipping off the camera.

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#16000233 - 03/26/12 08:30 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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BlindSophist said:
Quote:

zappaisgod said:
You'll probably feel threatened here. Because I'll be watching you.

You sound like a great guy to have a beer with.

I've had a few beers and more with a few of the people here. I haven't had any complaints yet

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#16000234 - 03/26/12 08:30 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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African Americans are really the only group of people keeping racism alive.

Do you live under a rock? About one in eight bans here on the Shroomery is for people being objectively racist. Go to youtube and check out any video by a black poster, then read the comments.

Give people a little anonymity and look what happens.

Society is stupendously racist. Stupendously.

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#16000261 - 03/26/12 08:36 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

Cohaagen said:

African Americans are really the only group of people keeping racism alive.

Do you live under a rock? About one in eight bans here on the Shroomery is for people being objectively racist. Go to youtube and check out any video by a black poster, then read the comments.

Give people a little anonymity and look what happens.

Society is stupendously racist. Stupendously.

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#16000415 - 03/26/12 09:05 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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I don't think you could be any more wrong if you deliberately tried

Right back at you.

My point was that the moment you give the masses some anonymity, such is on the internet, you see a whole lot more racism than in situations where people can be held accountable.

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#16000644 - 03/26/12 09:54 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Quote:

zappaisgod said:
Quote:

BlindSophist said:
Quote:

zappaisgod said:
Actually it appears most likely that he shot an unarmed punk who was assaulting him.

It appears most likely that he aggressively pursued an unarmed kid in a semi-public space for no justifiable reason, was attacked in the name of "self-defense" on the part of the kid, and then overreacted to the situation with deadly force.

Typical cop-larva.

I most certainly have the right to follow anybody I want without the expectation that I will be attacked for it. For instance if you come into my neighborhood.

This is entirely hypothetical,Say your unarmed, I decide to pursue you, closely, aggressively, You turn around swing at me I pull out my gun, you start begging for your life, screaming for help at the top of your lungs and I shoot you dead. How are my actions morally justified, forget about law.

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#16000735 - 03/26/12 10:11 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Wiccan_Seeker said:
Quote:

I don't think you could be any more wrong if you deliberately tried

Right back at you.

My point was that the moment you give the masses some anonymity, such is on the internet, you see a whole lot more racism than in situations where people can be held accountable.

lets ban the internet, or put some serious restrictions on it, like logging in with your rfid chip

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#16000781 - 03/26/12 10:19 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Quote:

hidenseek said:
Quote:

Wiccan_Seeker said:
Quote:

I don't think you could be any more wrong if you deliberately tried

Right back at you.

My point was that the moment you give the masses some anonymity, such is on the internet, you see a whole lot more racism than in situations where people can be held accountable.

lets ban the internet, or put some serious restrictions on it, like logging in with your rfid chip

I could be wrong, but I don't think this is what he was saying.

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#16000839 - 03/26/12 10:34 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Quote:

zappaisgod said:
Quote:

BlindSophist said:
Quote:

zappaisgod said:
You'll probably feel threatened here. Because I'll be watching you.

You sound like a great guy to have a beer with.

I've had a few beers and more with a few of the people here. I haven't had any complaints yet

See my edit--

Zimmerman was well respected by his community, that doesn't make what he did right IMHO.

Again, it's one thing to keep an eye on your neck of the woods, but it's another thing to provoke a confrontation with a stranger out of sheer paranoia.

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#16000886 - 03/26/12 10:43 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Quote:

BlindSophist said:
Quote:

zappaisgod said:
You'll probably feel threatened here. Because I'll be watching you.

You sound like a great guy to have a beer with.

EDIT: BTW, I wasn't referring to passive neighborhood vigilance, I was referring to the stalking and then the chasing behavior. That's something different IMO.

what exactly would be passive neighborhood vigilance, sitting in the livingroom and doing nothing?

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#16000903 - 03/26/12 10:46 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Wiccan_Seeker said:
Quote:

I don't think you could be any more wrong if you deliberately tried

Right back at you.

My point was that the moment you give the masses some anonymity, such is on the internet, you see a whole lot more racism than in situations where people can be held accountable.

often times it's to provoke a reaction, no more than any other form of trolling.

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#16000909 - 03/26/12 10:48 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
what exactly would be passive neighborhood vigilance, sitting in the livingroom and doing nothing?

Keeping an eye on the things you're responsible for without jumping to conclusions about strangers or provoking confrontations with them out of paranoia? I'm sure that after years of national second-guessing and media interrogations, the entire neighborhood will agree with me.

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#16000920 - 03/26/12 10:49 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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This is entirely hypothetical,Say your unarmed, I decide to pursue you, closely, aggressively, You turn around swing at me I pull out my gun, you start begging for your life, screaming for help at the top of your lungs and I shoot you dead. How are my actions morally justified, forget about law.

the problem with that scenario is... that's not what happened

can you define aggressive pursuit, I keep seeing it get posted but no one says what it is

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#16000921 - 03/26/12 10:50 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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what exactly would be passive neighborhood vigilance, sitting in the livingroom and doing nothing?

Keeping an eye on the things you're responsible for without jumping to conclusions about strangers or provoking confrontations with them out of paranoia? I'm sure that after years of national second-guessing and media interrogations, the entire neighborhood will agree with me.

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#16000990 - 03/26/12 11:05 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
what exactly would be passive neighborhood vigilance, sitting in the livingroom and doing nothing?

Keeping an eye on the things you're responsible for without jumping to conclusions about strangers or provoking confrontations with them out of paranoia? I'm sure that after years of national second-guessing and media interrogations, the entire neighborhood will agree with me.

so someone walking behind you is provocation for a confrontation and acts of violence?

zimmerman was keeping an eye on things he was responsible for, that's the
whole point of community, a community shares the responsibility of looking
out for each other. I look out for my neighbors, my neighbors look out for
me, some one came up my driveway one day when I wasnt home, my neignbors
knew I was out of town, my neighbor came up the driveway and met them with
a shotgun. I've done similar with my neighbor, he's appreciative since
before I moved in he was robbed of everything, a uhaul truck pulled in,
loaded up all his belongings down to his dishes and clothes and took off,
the folks living here passed by twice and didnt stop to question it

I had 5 break ins and livestock shot twice before the incident where I put
5 men in the road, my neighbor was the first to find out what was going on,
dozens of others drove by, far more traffic than this street is used to, it
took 45 minutes for the cops to arrive, havent had another break in since

passive is following someone, even running after them so you dont lose
sight of them, active is 'engaging' them in the head with the barrel of
the pistol and putting them face down in the dirt while describing how
deep a hole your backhoe can dig. aggressive is 2 in the chest because
they didnt comply with your command to stop their advance or to keep
their hands in sight

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#16001088 - 03/26/12 11:35 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

But here's my thing prisoner, I see where you and Zimmerman are coming from but your not empathizing with what Trayvon was undoubtedly thinking in that situation.

Zimmerman stated in the 911 tapes that he was pursuing Martin.
Zimmerman also stated during the call that Trayvon had noticed that he was being following. Next Zimmerman states that Trayvon's headed towards the back of the complex, this corroborates with what Trayvon's girlfriend said about him initially losing the "pursuer." Then Zimmerman apparently is able to catch up with Martin, I'm assuming in his vehicle, he then steps out and approaches Trayvon. Now if you place yourself into Trayvon's shoes, a young black kid in an unfamiliar neighborhood, can you honestly say you wouldn't be alarmed by this situation??? I can say that if I was in his position, being approached by someone I KNEW had been following me, I would run. I don't know how the initial physical engagement began, it's all speculation, but if Trayvon did hit Zimmerman I see where he's coming from. If I'm a black teen in an unfamiliar neighborhood and an unknown individual approaches me and says "what are you doing here" my initial thought process would be to assume that he's racist and doesn't want me here because I'm black. I would run. You're only looking at things from Zimmerman's perspective though.

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#16001274 - 03/27/12 12:21 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Bodhi of Ankou said:
This is entirely hypothetical,Say your unarmed, I decide to pursue you, closely, aggressively, You turn around swing at me I pull out my gun, you start begging for your life, screaming for help at the top of your lungs and I shoot you dead. How are my actions morally justified, forget about law.

the problem with that scenario is... that's not what happened

can you define aggressive pursuit, I keep seeing it get posted but no one says what it is

Peh, like you arnt capable of googling the definition of aggressive and pursuit. I refuse to be baited into your nit-picking form of psuedo trolling.

Which is why I opened with hypothetical. Fill me in on exactly what happened (as far as what one can gather), you and luvdemshrooms seem to be the experts on this.

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#16001509 - 03/27/12 01:12 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

hypothetically, I dont do well with hypotheticals

trayvon martin attacked george zimmerman without provocation, zimmerman was
being beaten and feared for his life and shot trayvon martin

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#16001531 - 03/27/12 01:17 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

I dunno it seems a little odd that zimmermen getting dominated by the athletic trayvon managed to pull his pistol out and shoot him while getting his head bashed into the concrete. If that is the case Trayvon deserved what he got.

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#16001538 - 03/27/12 01:20 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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But here's my thing prisoner, I see where you and Zimmerman are coming from but your not empathizing with what Trayvon was undoubtedly thinking in that situation.

why should I? I've been in that situation, no one was beat, no one got shot

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Zimmerman stated in the 911 tapes that he was pursuing Martin.

dispatcher aid "we dont need yo to do that" and zimmerman said "ok" and stopped, then martin came after zimmerman as he was returning to his truck
the cops said it was consistent with the evidence

http://www.suntimes.com/news/nation/11539760-418/watchman-told-florida-cops-trayvon-martin-was-aggressor.html

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Zimmerman also stated during the call that Trayvon had noticed that he was being following. Next Zimmerman states that Trayvon's headed towards the back of the complex, this corroborates with what Trayvon's girlfriend said about him initially losing the "pursuer." Then Zimmerman apparently is able to catch up with Martin, I'm assuming in his vehicle, he then steps out and approaches Trayvon. Now if you place yourself into Trayvon's shoes, a young black kid in an unfamiliar neighborhood, can you honestly say you wouldn't be alarmed by this situation??? I can say that if I was in his position, being approached by someone I KNEW had been following me, I would run. I don't know how the initial physical engagement began, it's all speculation, but if Trayvon did hit Zimmerman I see where he's coming from. If I'm a black teen in an unfamiliar neighborhood and an unknown individual approaches me and says "what are you doing here" my initial thought process would be to assume that he's racist and doesn't want me here because I'm black. I would run. You're only looking at things from Zimmerman's perspective though.

loads of hypotheticals based on nothing

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Meanwhile, the Orlando Sentinel reported that Zimmerman told police he lost Martin in the neighborhood he regularly patrolled and was walking back to his vehicle when the youth approached him from behind. The two exchanged words, Zimmerman said, and Martin then punched him in the nose, jumped on top of him and began banging his head on a sidewalk. Zimmerman said he began crying for help; Martin’s family thinks it was their son who was crying out. Witness accounts differ and 911 tapes in which the voices are heard are not clear.

The Sanford police statement said the newspaper story was “consistent” with evidence turned over to prosecutors.

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#16001878 - 03/27/12 03:06 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

That depends on who's account you believe. I personally trust the girlfriend's as hers lines up, in regards to time, with the other callers and the arrival of officers. There's no conclusive evidence to prove that Trayvon approached Zimmerman or if Zimmerman approached Trayvon, so idk how evidence backs up Zimmermans claims.

Also, if you can empathize with Zimmerman, which you've been doing the entire thread and in the other, why can you not do so with Trayvon. If that's not bias than I have no idea what is.

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#16001890 - 03/27/12 03:09 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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That depends on who's account you believe. I personally trust the girlfriend's as hers lines up, in regards to time, with the other callers and the arrival of officers. There's no conclusive evidence to prove that Trayvon approached Zimmerman or if Zimmerman approached Trayvon, so idk how