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maynardjameskeenan
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Re: *Official* Australia NSW Shroom Season 2012 [Re: benefit]
#16082589 - 04/12/12 11:58 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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benefit said: Hi,
I was wondering what strains of mushrooms that are distinctively similar to the Subs that I should avoid when hunting. Thanks in advance.
galerina marginata is the most deadly you also want to avoid the genera Pholiota, Tubaria, Conocybe, Pholiotina most of which are toxic and grow in the similar habitat as subaeruginosa. Good luck and post your finds, that way you can make sure you wont end up dying from eating any mushrooms.
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Once you know what you're looking for there's really nothing that looks that much like a sub. Sometimes from a distance one might fool you, but you can usually tell just from the colour and size whether it's good or not.
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Re: *Official* Australia NSW Shroom Season 2012 [Re: benefit]
#16083233 - 04/13/12 03:12 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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benefit said: Hi,
I was wondering what strains of mushrooms that are distinctively similar to the Subs that I should avoid when hunting. Thanks in advance.
Galerina marginata and Pholiotina rugosa. They look different to experienced hunters but can be confused for Psilocybe subaeruginosa by new people.
Spore print all mushrooms you find until you learn how to spot the differences.
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Cool. I only just noticed this thread, cant wait to see some more pictures
Sadly i dont think i will find any subs this season. I moved (quite abit inland from sydney) and the weather has been hot during the days and cold during the nights, and on top of that, no rain. Plus i dont even think they grow here.. I wish i didnt move.. anyway, ill have a look anyway later when it gets colder
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Re: *Official* Australia NSW Shroom Season 2012 [Re: Canberra]
#16083341 - 04/13/12 04:41 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Canberra said: Once you know what you're looking for there's really nothing that looks that much like a sub. Sometimes from a distance one might fool you, but you can usually tell just from the colour and size whether it's good or not.
The texture and smell of subs is also different to any of the look alikes
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benefit
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Re: *Official* Australia NSW Shroom Season 2012 [Re: ChaosOne]
#16084070 - 04/13/12 11:15 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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So what smell, texture and taste should it be?
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Re: *Official* Australia NSW Shroom Season 2012 [Re: benefit]
#16084784 - 04/13/12 02:25 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Smell is described often as earthy, but I like to think of it as "tangy", kind of reminds me of tangy chips with mushroom. Texture of the cap is a lot more springy/gelatanous than compared to the soft jelly texture of galerinas etc, and the stalk is a lot more fiberous, more like the stem of a wheat grass as opposed to solid of malleable.
As for taste, don't do it. Don't taste unidentified mushrooms.
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Re: *Official* Australia NSW Shroom Season 2012 [Re: Slavich]
#16085806 - 04/13/12 06:23 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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It is ok to taste unidentified mushrooms as long as you don't swallow them.
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Canberra
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Just be warned though random mushrooms can taste REALLY bad
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Re: *Official* Australia NSW Shroom Season 2012 [Re: Canberra]
#16087216 - 04/14/12 12:23 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Definitely happening in the Blue Mountains.
Lot of nice L. deliciosus as well as many P. subaeruginosa.
   
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Re: *Official* Australia NSW Shroom Season 2012 [Re: teratogen]
#16087615 - 04/14/12 02:45 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Nice pics teratogen! That first one looks so tasty
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Re: *Official* Australia NSW Shroom Season 2012 [Re: teratogen]
#16087833 - 04/14/12 04:41 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Definitely happening in the Blue Mountains.
The last pic of the blue subaeruginosa is cool, could almost be pic of the month material if you had put the camera on its side and used a little bit of flash.
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teratogen
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Thanks Alan,
Alas I don't have a flash for this particular camera.
Do you prefer this photo?

Thanks for all your help in past years identifying these things btw.
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Re: *Official* Australia NSW Shroom Season 2012 [Re: teratogen]
#16091422 - 04/15/12 01:25 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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A few I stumbled upon today..
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Stopwhispering
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Re: *Official* Australia NSW Shroom Season 2012 [Re: gumby01]
#16091438 - 04/15/12 01:27 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Please don't pick pins like that, you are destroying the future growth of the patch and the ability for the mushroom to spread to other areas.
Wait till the caps are fully open then pick away like a madman.
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Re: *Official* Australia NSW Shroom Season 2012 [Re: Stopwhispering]
#16091469 - 04/15/12 01:32 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Where they were they would not survive. These ones would be a smashed memory by now.
Sheep tend to not look before walking.
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Stopwhispering
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Re: *Official* Australia NSW Shroom Season 2012 [Re: gumby01]
#16091476 - 04/15/12 01:35 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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"smashed" mushrooms spread spores, ones that aren't there do not.
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Re: *Official* Australia NSW Shroom Season 2012 [Re: Stopwhispering]
#16091510 - 04/15/12 01:42 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Nothing much grows after 300 sheep go through after being jetted. These were on the inside edge of the sheep run so they would be no more. There are others I left behind in the area for a later stage..
Edited by gumby01 (04/15/12 01:57 AM)
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Re: *Official* Australia NSW Shroom Season 2012 [Re: Stopwhispering]
#16092035 - 04/15/12 04:43 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Stopwhispering said: "smashed" mushrooms spread spores, ones that aren't there do not.
Smashed babies don't produce spores
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Re: *Official* Australia NSW Shroom Season 2012 [Re: Canberra]
#16092048 - 04/15/12 04:50 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Canberra said:
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Stopwhispering said: "smashed" mushrooms spread spores, ones that aren't there do not.
Smashed babies don't produce spores
How do you figure? Surely spores do not become present only when a fruiting body is ready to drop them?
Be curious to know the answer to this actually.
On a side note, even if that was the case I am quite sure not every pin would be trampled. Why pick such a pitiful amount of material to potentially harm the patches overall health, instead of waiting a couple of weeks and picking it silly with no ill effects.
Edited by Stopwhispering (04/15/12 04:58 AM)
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