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 Re: VA - Parents warned about designer drug use  [Re: LongStrangeTrip]
#15976407 - 03/21/12 03:05 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Ha, in Powhatan county. I did that 
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Re: VA - Parents warned about designer drug use [Re: frylock91]
#15976445 - 03/21/12 03:15 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Ha, in Powhatan county. I did that
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Re: VA - Parents warned about designer drug use [Re: trip forever]
#15976488 - 03/21/12 03:27 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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I know the guy who had seizures and died. He took alcohol, pot, 25i, Xanax and hydrocodone.
Also, watch for a story of a kid getting arrested with $3000 worth of 25i.
Very interesting.. Tell us more? 
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Re: VA - Parents warned about designer drug use [Re: LongStrangeTrip]
#15976667 - 03/21/12 04:16 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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My god, the irony....
They want to keep the kids safe, but they have already banned the most non-lethal drug on the planet (thc), and its banning likely has stirred more interest in designer drugs.
They don't even realize that these "actions" that they take make for a more "dangerous" drug scene. If they would let the kids smoke cannabis, I bet you designer drug use would decline across the board.
the interesting thing is that the government does not consider consultation from drug addicts like us. Its very ironic and its causing an array of problems...
Just because the gov. thinks it knows better, kids have to try and OUTSMART THE LAW...
If you think about it that's a recipe for disaster. that's what this is all about..
the GOV THINKING IT KNOWS BETTER AND KIDS NEEDING TO OUTSMART IT.
Its a sad, self defeating anti drug methodology... the scope fo which is perhaps only now slowly coming to light and the gov. will never realise it, because they're undimensional fucks
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Re: VA - Parents warned about designer drug use [Re: Biffzilla] 1
#15976678 - 03/21/12 04:18 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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undimensional fucks
Dibs on that band name, by the way. 
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Re: VA - Parents warned about designer drug use [Re: Meteloides]
#15976709 - 03/21/12 04:26 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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that will cost ya a print of a very fast colonizing, rhizomorphic strain with good fruiting ratios!
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Re: VA - Parents warned about designer drug use [Re: Biffzilla]
#15976830 - 03/21/12 04:51 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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that will cost ya a print of a very fast colonizing, rhizomorphic strain with good fruiting ratios!
How about a load of 25i instead? 
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Re: VA - Parents warned about designer drug use [Re: Adamist]
#15977050 - 03/21/12 05:35 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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I know the guy who had seizures and died. He took alcohol, pot, 25i, Xanax and hydrocodone.
Also, watch for a story of a kid getting arrested with $3000 worth of 25i.
Very interesting.. Tell us more?
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The other dude, Tyler david--- was the kid who died from it. Once he died this HUGE uproar came about concerning 25i, which hardly anyone knew about. (cept for the ones in the drug scene...but know everybody does thanks to law enforcement...)he had uncontrollable seizures for a
month, then he died. All the articles fail to mention he took alcohol, Xanax and hydrocodone with it. And that he took around 8 doses. (I'm not positive, but it was a large amount). He also had a history of seizures before this incident.
What else would you like to know? 
Btw, I do not associate with any drug anymore after I got arrested/put on probation, so there's no way I could help law enforcement. (like I would, fuckers) and if they interrogate me I would have nothing to add to their investigation. (like I would, as well)
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Re: VA - Parents warned about designer drug use [Re: LongStrangeTrip] 1
#15977616 - 03/21/12 07:43 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Are you kidding me? 25i was discovered at a university in Germany a few years ago, its not like the synth popped up on the streets or something. Dave Nichols took up studying it at Purdue well before it hit the "market" scene.
Just like LSD eh  ? Just because we have been eating LSD for 40+ years does not make it any less of an RC than any other RC 
Except it was being studied for low dose use as a radiotracer for PET in vitro and invivo in non human animals. It has not been studied as a recreational drug in humans. It is therefore considered an RC.
LSD has been in use in humans for over 60 years, it is not considered an RC. The fact that both are synthetic organic chemicals does not make them the same
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Re: VA - Parents warned about designer drug use [Re: Spiderbaby]
#15977635 - 03/21/12 07:49 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Are you kidding me? 25i was discovered at a university in Germany a few years ago, its not like the synth popped up on the streets or something. Dave Nichols took up studying it at Purdue well before it hit the "market" scene.
Just like LSD eh ? Just because we have been eating LSD for 40+ years does not make it any less of an RC than any other RC
Except it was being studied for low dose use as a radiotracer for PET in vitro and invivo in non human animals. It has not been studied as a recreational drug in humans. It is therefore considered an RC.
LSD has been in use in humans for over 60 years, it is not considered an RC. The fact that both are synthetic organic chemicals does not make them the same
Well....touche
 (I just like them both I suppose )
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Re: VA - Parents warned about designer drug use [Re: LongStrangeTrip]
#15977660 - 03/21/12 07:57 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah if you look up the studies on it they are all in animal models or in cell lines. Apparently the developers of these substances, like Nichols and Huffman to name just two, are horrified by the use of their compounds as recreational drugs.
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Re: VA - Parents warned about designer drug use [Re: Spiderbaby]
#15977943 - 03/21/12 09:07 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah if you look up the studies on it they are all in animal models or in cell lines. Apparently the developers of these substances, like Nichols and Huffman to name just two, are horrified by the use of their compounds as recreational drugs.
And so was Albert Hofmann with regard to LSD...Nichols and Huffman are not unique in that regard. Hofmann's book is even titled "LSD: My Problem Child" for goodness sake.
So, I have to agree with LongStrangeTrip. There certainly WAS a time when LSD was, by your definition, an RC. It had absolutely no human trial experience - only animal models to assess its utility for post-partum bleeding. The ONLY thing that changed was the accidental stoning of its altogether terrified human researcher, followed by the passage of time.
So...if the non-professional 25i-NBOME human trials (which are > than 2 years in already) continue long enough, will there come a time when 25i will no longer be considered an RC simply on that basis? I'd argue the answer has to be "yes".
In a way, you are BOTH right - there is the "present" status of this interesting RC, and there likely will be a "future" status of 25i-NBOMe ten, twenty or more years from now where the case for labeling it an RC will be greatly weakened.
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Re: VA - Parents warned about designer drug use [Re: Nature Boy] 2
#15979103 - 03/22/12 01:55 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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If LSD is not called a research chemical anymore because it has been studied.... do we now call it a researched chemical?
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Re: VA - Parents warned about designer drug use [Re: Meteloides]
#15979613 - 03/22/12 04:49 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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that will cost ya a print of a very fast colonizing, rhizomorphic strain with good fruiting ratios!
How about a load of 25i instead?
meh.
give me dmt any day instead. but then again howd i know until i used it
and by then, if its 25i
it might be too late for me!
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Re: VA - Parents warned about designer drug use [Re: LongStrangeTrip]
#15985186 - 03/23/12 12:07 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Yes it does. 40 years is a huge difference in comparison to LSD. Other wise when you look LSD up on erowid there would be a little icon on the pages that says research chemical.
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Re: VA - Parents warned about designer drug use [Re: Nature Boy]
#15985201 - 03/23/12 12:12 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Right that what I'm waiting for. For you guys to filter the shit rcs so down the road after they have been researched more I can make a more educated decision on which chems I'd like to give a shot. No sense wasting my time with that mdpv stuff. 25i on the other hand seems interesting to say the least.
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Re: VA - Parents warned about designer drug use [Re: Cactilove]
#15986278 - 03/23/12 05:04 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Right that what I'm waiting for. For you guys to filter the shit rcs so down the road after they have been researched more I can make a more educated decision on which chems I'd like to give a shot. No sense wasting my time with that mdpv stuff. 25i on the other hand seems interesting to say the least.
So after they're all illegal, and drug dealers are still pretty much exclusively selling the "original" illegal drugs, you'll be interested?
Stock up now, man. You'll thank me later. 
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Re: VA - Parents warned about designer drug use [Re: Meteloides]
#15993137 - 03/25/12 10:50 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Good idea. I just want to make sure there is a bit more research before I thrust myself into it. Besides it can still be considered illegal already under the analogue act. But I see where your coming from.
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