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    #15920200 - 03/08/12 05:26 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Little over a month away

Browns going to move up to #2 to get RGIII


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Re: 2012 NFL Draft [Re: KillerPicklez]
    #15921240 - 03/08/12 08:35 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

There goes RG 3's career....



I could obviously be wrong...just sayin'.  Cleveland is where highly drafted QBs go to bust.


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Re: 2012 NFL Draft [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #15923446 - 03/09/12 10:21 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Browns deserve to be good again. Maybe drafting yet another QB is the way to go. Maybe keep Payton Hillis happy


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Re: 2012 NFL Draft [Re: KillerPicklez]
    #15923679 - 03/09/12 11:29 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

I'd imagine that facing the two best defenses in the league four times per season makes it hard for young qbs to develop.


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Re: 2012 NFL Draft [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #15923796 - 03/09/12 11:56 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Yeah, I like how Aaron Rodgers was mentored in. Same with Tom Brady, up until Bledsoe got hurt.

Cleveland needs RGIII and some WR's to help him out. That offense is weak sauce.


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Re: 2012 NFL Draft [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #15926181 - 03/09/12 09:12 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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There goes RG 3's career....



I could obviously be wrong...just sayin'.  Cleveland is where highly drafted QBs go to bust.




Rg3 can't be compared to Brady Quin. Tim Couch never had a chance. Jeff Garcia was the
only halfway decent qb and he did not fit the scheme at that time and was close to being
washed up. Then there's been like 10 total scrubs. Damn it's hard being a Browns Fan.

Browns need a qb but I'm not sure if RG3 is gonna cost to much. If the browns are ever
going to catch up with you fucks and the ratbirds then they really need the draft picks this year. Especially bidding against Dan Snyder. With you(Steelers in case anyone doesn't
know) and Baltimore both getting older, now is Clevland's best chance at catching up.
I'm not too worried about Cincinnati.

Go Browns
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Edited by spock (03/09/12 09:14 PM)


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Re: 2012 NFL Draft [Re: spock]
    #15926879 - 03/09/12 11:48 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Redskins just Traded 3 #1 draft picks and a #2 draft pick to St.Louis for RG3 :lol:


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Re: 2012 NFL Draft [Re: spock]
    #15926924 - 03/09/12 11:58 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Rg3 can't be compared to Brady Quin. Tim Couch never had a chance. Jeff Garcia was the
only halfway decent qb and he did not fit the scheme at that time and was close to being
washed up. Then there's been like 10 total scrubs. Damn it's hard being a Browns Fan.







As a Steelers fan, the only time I ever felt intimidated and impressed with the Browns was back when Derrick Anderson, Kellen Winslow Jr, and Braylon Edwards were lighting teams up.

That was the one time I was thinking "wow they finally look like the real deal".


But who knows what happened with all of that.  As a Browns fan maybe you can tell me?


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Re: 2012 NFL Draft [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #15927028 - 03/10/12 12:14 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Redskins just Traded 3 #1 draft picks and a #2 draft pick to St.Louis for RG3 :lol:





You know what this reminds me of?






The Redskins continue to prove that Dan Snyder is a total piece of shit as a GM.  Yeah I know he hired supposed "GM's" to hold that title,  but it's clear with the organization making another agregious move with the draft, Dan's got a hold on this team the same way Al Davis did with the Raiders.



And until Dan Snyder realizes that he is clueless about running a football team, the Redskins will continue to suck ass.

It's been 2 decades since they've been any kind of serious title contender.


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Re: 2012 NFL Draft [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #15927214 - 03/10/12 12:44 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

RG3 better be good.  All scouts say that he will be.


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Re: 2012 NFL Draft [Re: FeedingMyDreams]
    #15927390 - 03/10/12 01:20 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Giving up 3 first round picks and a 2nd round pick just to move up 4 spots is....wow.



When so many teams can pick up franchise quality QBs in the spots they're assigned (Matt Ryan, Ben Roethlisburger, Aaron Rodgers)....yet the Redskins have to make such a horrible desparation move to try to attain the same thing.


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Re: 2012 NFL Draft [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #15928535 - 03/10/12 09:35 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Yeah it is, two #1's should have been enough, Redskins are mess.


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Re: 2012 NFL Draft [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #15928690 - 03/10/12 10:45 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

I think they're going to rag on the Redskins for this decision for a long time.


RG 3 might be really good but I he's also going to have a hard time developing in a division like the NFC East, considering every other team in that division have rabid pass-rushing defenses.

I'd go so far as to say that within the NFC East: the Giants (Umenyora, Pierre Paul, Tuck)  Eagles (Cole, Babin) and Cowboys (Mister DeMarcus Ware) is probably the fiercest pass-rushing division in the league.


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Re: 2012 NFL Draft [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #15928847 - 03/10/12 11:57 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Redskins just Traded 3 #1 draft picks and a #2 draft pick to St.Louis for RG3 :lol:




Wow.
The reports I was reading were saying that the Browns would trade a first and second and
the Redskins were offering 2 firsts but not a second. So then Snyder goes and bids against
himself and gives up THREE firsts AND a second? Wow.
He didn't even wait for free agency to start? Wow. What if the Browns wanted to keep
their picks(most likely move by GM Tom Heckart who preaches building with picks) and
sign Flynn?
Snyder can't even be compared with Al Davis. Al at least used to know what he was doing.

Wow. I'm truly stunned.

Go Browns
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Re: 2012 NFL Draft [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #15928888 - 03/10/12 12:13 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

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Rg3 can't be compared to Brady Quin. Tim Couch never had a chance. Jeff Garcia was the
only halfway decent qb and he did not fit the scheme at that time and was close to being
washed up. Then there's been like 10 total scrubs. Damn it's hard being a Browns Fan.







As a Steelers fan, the only time I ever felt intimidated and impressed with the Browns was back when Derrick Anderson, Kellen Winslow Jr, and Braylon Edwards were lighting teams up.

That was the one time I was thinking "wow they finally look like the real deal".


But who knows what happened with all of that.  As a Browns fan maybe you can tell me?




Kellen, Braylon and Joe Jurevicius made Derrick Anderson look better than he was. Kellen
caught everything thrown his way. Braylon streched the field. Joe J. was 6'5" and could
get open or catch the jump ball on 3rd down. D.A. had a big arm but was an INT machine.
Derrick Anderson. That fucking guy....:smh:


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Re: 2012 NFL Draft [Re: spock]
    #15928914 - 03/10/12 12:22 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Joe J was an excellent receiver, I was pissed when Seattle didn't resign him. Browns need a new QB, some receivers, probably a stingier defense. Lotta teams are in need of help there aren't too many "good teams" in the league. So much for all this Parity they speak of.


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    #15928949 - 03/10/12 12:41 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Joe J was the Man. I was pissed the Browns cut him. He was one of the few who could
just flat get open. And he was tall and had great hands. He wasn't fast but just knew
how to run a route.

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Re: 2012 NFL Draft [Re: spock]
    #15928966 - 03/10/12 12:50 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Fuckin Redskins. wow. RGIII better end up having a better rookie season than Cam Newton for this trade to have any chance at being a success.

Looking like everyone is now leaning towards Peyton to Miami.


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    #15929005 - 03/10/12 01:07 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Nobody has any clue on Manning, most think he wont sign with Miami. Denver is probably out too, with suspended players, freezing weather, and the same media attention he hated in Miami. Yes they followed him around the city with helicopter again, what is wrong with these cities??


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    #15929009 - 03/10/12 01:08 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

I read he met in Denver.  Should be interesting no matter where he goes.


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    #15929017 - 03/10/12 01:12 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

He spent about 6 hours at the Broncos complex, he's on his way to Arizona now, then back to Miami. Arizona is already over the salary cap and has an awful O-line. Really have no clue where he'll land, but he's suppose to make up his mind by Tuesday or at the end of the week at the latest.


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    #15929054 - 03/10/12 01:25 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Making the deal without knowing where Manning or Flynn were going is just insane.


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Re: 2012 NFL Draft [Re: spock]
    #15929093 - 03/10/12 01:41 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

All this discussion had me looking up on the Redskin's 2000 draft.  People were saying how it would make them poised to be a title contender.


Not even close.


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    #15929236 - 03/10/12 02:39 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Flynn will probably land in Seattle, which I don't want. Flynn looks like crap to me, that detroit game where he passed for 500yds was not impressive. Receivers had to stand there waiting for his lobbers to get there. Lions defense was beyond pitiful, proving to be a complete joke against NO's the next week.


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    #15929583 - 03/10/12 04:18 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

My guess is that Manning goes to Arizona.  It's in a dome with star receiver Larry Fitzgerald.


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    #15929896 - 03/10/12 05:47 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Yeah you might be right, i've been trying to wrap my head around his landing spot, just can't nail it down though :tongue:


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    #15939720 - 03/12/12 10:39 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Id like to see him land in San Francisco.

SF just signed Randy Moss to a 1-year deal. Give Manning him, Crabtree, and Vernon Davis to throw to, have Frank Gore and Kendall Hunter in the backfield and they have a pretty studly defense.

I think SF gives Manning the best chance at being an immediate contender.

I just dont know if SF is ready to throw Alex Smith away as he finally starts to develop and look decent.

SF would be even more perfect for Manning if they hadnt cut Braylon Edwards.


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    #15942823 - 03/13/12 06:24 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Manning is gonna end up in denver


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    #15942866 - 03/13/12 06:35 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

I dont see that happening


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    #15943258 - 03/13/12 08:21 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Manning is gonna end up in denver






Out of all the teams he's visiting, they clearly have the most going for Peyton.


They're the most talented team outside of the QB position compared to Miami, Tenn, and Arizona.  They DID just carry Tim Tebow into the divisional round of the playoffs.

They have a BADASS offensive line.  One of the best in the league no questions asked.


They have something that Manning never played with....a bonified DEFENSE. 


Bill Clinton is also a very respectable coach who knows what he's doing.




Oh man now that I think about it, if Manning ends up in Denver it could be NUTS.  Considering the elevation and such, his passes thrive.


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    #15944009 - 03/13/12 11:17 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

I still like San Francisco better.


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    #15945215 - 03/14/12 08:35 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

I agree SF is the better team.


But I think it's highly unlikely Peyton goes there.  He didn't meet with them, and Alex Smith is starting to become pretty decent.


They needed receivers more than a QB.


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    #15969028 - 03/19/12 09:55 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Manning is gonna end up in denver



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    #15969162 - 03/19/12 10:19 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

:laugh:erface:


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    #15969164 - 03/19/12 10:19 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

oops


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    #15972100 - 03/20/12 04:41 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

They should win the AFC west rather easily barring injurys


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    #15972185 - 03/20/12 05:03 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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They should win the AFC west rather easily barring injurys




That's what I've been thinking. Any of the other possible(talked about) teams where #18
might of landed would of had at least one other scary team in the division.
They got a tough schedule, though.

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    #15983313 - 03/22/12 10:19 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

John Elway + Peyton Manning should = great things

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