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 SlashOZ
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 Fuck the US constitution 
#15858654 - 02/24/12 07:54 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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That's right, you paulbots that think saying something is unconstitutional aren't welcome here. You think that following the constitution somehow leads to better results than something that is unconstitutional. You rely not on the merits of your assertion but on the power that the word "unconstitutional" has within the minds of those you wish to persuade.
The U.S. constitution isn't the word of god so why do people treat the constitution as if it is?
Oh no! Someone has transgressed our arbitrary rules!!! 
The federal government has too much power? How about the idea of the constitution having too much power? People can invoke the idea of constitutionality to fellow politicos and it is like Santorum invoking the idea of his bible and christian god.
Is there any real meaningful difference between a book written thousands of years ago that is full of shit and more recently written document that is equally full of shit?
Why do secular politicos feel completely justified in rallying around the constitution as if it were the word of god while at the same time decrying someone on the far right who wants to outlaw gay marraige or eliminate a woman's right to choose?
What would be so wrong if we pissed all over our current constitution and made a new one. Heck, I bet we could write a new constitution that isn't nearly as fucked as the one we have to deal with now.
/rant of a law student.
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"Life's a bitch and then you die that's why we get high cuz you never know when you're gonna go." - NAS
"When people don't know what you're about they put you down and shut you out" - Black Sabbath
"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" - Gandhi
"Look up at me I am God, look down on me and I am evil, look at me I am you." - Charles Manson.
"Don't question my reality." - Me (as far as I know)
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Re: Fuck the US constitution [Re: SlashOZ] 10
#15858661 - 02/24/12 07:56 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Good luck being able to make the post you just did without the protections of the Constitution.
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Re: Fuck the US constitution [Re: SlashOZ] 1
#15858662 - 02/24/12 07:56 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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it isn't arbitrary, it isn't the word of god and Paulbots are incapable of interpreting it.
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SlashOZ
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abltsandwich said:
Good luck being able to make the post you just did without the protections of the Constitution.
So, the entire internet is dependent on the U.S. constitution? Interesting. Please explain more.
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"Life sucks but in this really beautiful way" - Axl Rose
"Life's a bitch and then you die that's why we get high cuz you never know when you're gonna go." - NAS
"When people don't know what you're about they put you down and shut you out" - Black Sabbath
"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" - Gandhi
"Look up at me I am God, look down on me and I am evil, look at me I am you." - Charles Manson.
"Don't question my reality." - Me (as far as I know)
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Bodhi of Ankou
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Re: Fuck the US constitution [Re: SlashOZ] 2
#15858667 - 02/24/12 07:57 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Okay we'll write a new one, and by we I mean the people already and power, and by write a new one I really mean fuck you over even further then we already have and reduce you to peonage.
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lazyfingers
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Somebody's gotta write something. We could just burn all the books I guess.
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abltsandwich
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Re: Fuck the US constitution [Re: SlashOZ]
#15858678 - 02/24/12 08:00 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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SlashOZ said:
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abltsandwich said:
Good luck being able to make the post you just did without the protections of the Constitution.
So, the entire internet is dependent on the U.S. constitution? Interesting. Please explain more.
That's not even what I said.
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Bodhi of Ankou
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Bro, he's a law student.
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zappaisgod
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abltsandwich said:
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SlashOZ said:
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abltsandwich said:
Good luck being able to make the post you just did without the protections of the Constitution.
So, the entire internet is dependent on the U.S. constitution? Interesting. Please explain more.
That's not even what I said.
It's true though.
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Meteloides
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Re: Fuck the US constitution [Re: lazyfingers] 1
#15858686 - 02/24/12 08:02 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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We created a society and based it on arbitrary rules. Within that society, those rules become a reality. Therefore, in order to maintain the society, the rules must be protected.
They also prevented the people from being anally violated by the government. Or at least made the process much more difficult for the government.
So, like, they're important.
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moonrockmushy
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Re: Fuck the US constitution [Re: SlashOZ]
#15858687 - 02/24/12 08:02 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Hell yeah man  Fuck America, lets worry about the people and the land
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SlashOZ
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abltsandwich said:
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SlashOZ said:
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abltsandwich said:
Good luck being able to make the post you just did without the protections of the Constitution.
So, the entire internet is dependent on the U.S. constitution? Interesting. Please explain more.
That's not even what I said.
Oh cuz I thought you said that I wouldn't be able to write what I wrote without the U.S. constitution. Why not another constitution? I'm sure similar things are expressed everyday by people throughout the world. Please explain why the U.S. constitution is the SOLE reason for my freedom to express how much bullshit our constitution is and then I'll say you are right. As long as there is at least 1 other country that allows people to talk shit about the U.S. constitution your argument is full of it. Heck, I don't care if the U.S. constitution allows free speech. Plenty of other constitutions do that as well and there is no reason we couldn't write a better constitution right now than the one we have.
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"Life sucks but in this really beautiful way" - Axl Rose
"Life's a bitch and then you die that's why we get high cuz you never know when you're gonna go." - NAS
"When people don't know what you're about they put you down and shut you out" - Black Sabbath
"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" - Gandhi
"Look up at me I am God, look down on me and I am evil, look at me I am you." - Charles Manson.
"Don't question my reality." - Me (as far as I know)
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Meteloides
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Re: Fuck the US constitution [Re: SlashOZ]
#15858703 - 02/24/12 08:06 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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SlashOZ said:
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abltsandwich said:
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SlashOZ said:
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abltsandwich said:
Good luck being able to make the post you just did without the protections of the Constitution.
So, the entire internet is dependent on the U.S. constitution? Interesting. Please explain more.
That's not even what I said.
Oh cuz I thought you said that I wouldn't be able to write what I wrote without the U.S. constitution. Why not another constitution? I'm sure similar things are expressed everyday by people throughout the world. Please explain why the U.S. constitution is the SOLE reason for my freedom to express how much bullshit our constitution is and then I'll say you are right. As long as there is at least 1 other country that allows people to talk shit about the U.S. constitution your argument is full of it. Heck, I don't care if the U.S. constitution allows free speech. Plenty of other constitutions do that as well and there is no reason we couldn't write a better constitution right now than the one we have.
It's easy to talk about this when you're listed as living in "reality".
You obviously don't live in the states. 
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Re: Fuck the US constitution [Re: SlashOZ] 2
#15858707 - 02/24/12 08:07 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Ok Let's write a new constitution,
Article 1: Sucking Balls
All those within range of my words are obligated to perform fellatio on their pets.
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ToiletDuk
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Re: Fuck the US constitution [Re: Meteloides]
#15858713 - 02/24/12 08:08 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Meteloides said:
They also prevented the people from being anally violated by the government. Or at least made the process much more difficult for the government.
Thanks to the wars on drugs and terror, it's considerably easier for the government to do so than it used to be.
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SlashOZ
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Re: Fuck the US constitution [Re: Meteloides]
#15858719 - 02/24/12 08:10 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Meteloides said:
It's easy to talk about this when you're listed as living in "reality".
You obviously don't live in the states.
I am from the states and I think our constitution is straight fucked. Heck, I'm studying U.S. constitutional law right now at law school in the good ol' US of A. I also think people that use arguments such as "that is unconstitutional" to support their agend are equally full of shit by appealing to an arbitrary set of rules similar to how religious people try to impose their views on others by appealing to the Truth contained in their religious texts.
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"Life sucks but in this really beautiful way" - Axl Rose
"Life's a bitch and then you die that's why we get high cuz you never know when you're gonna go." - NAS
"When people don't know what you're about they put you down and shut you out" - Black Sabbath
"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" - Gandhi
"Look up at me I am God, look down on me and I am evil, look at me I am you." - Charles Manson.
"Don't question my reality." - Me (as far as I know)
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SlashOZ
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Re: Fuck the US constitution [Re: ToiletDuk]
#15858722 - 02/24/12 08:12 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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ToiletDuk said:
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Meteloides said:
They also prevented the people from being anally violated by the government. Or at least made the process much more difficult for the government.
Thanks to the wars on drugs and terror, it's considerably easier for the government to do so than it used to be.
Hence the need to throw the current piece of constitutional garbage away and start over with a new kickass one that is tailored to our current needs instead of the needs of rich white males from the last 1700's.
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"Life sucks but in this really beautiful way" - Axl Rose
"Life's a bitch and then you die that's why we get high cuz you never know when you're gonna go." - NAS
"When people don't know what you're about they put you down and shut you out" - Black Sabbath
"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" - Gandhi
"Look up at me I am God, look down on me and I am evil, look at me I am you." - Charles Manson.
"Don't question my reality." - Me (as far as I know)
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Meteloides
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Re: Fuck the US constitution [Re: SlashOZ]
#15858734 - 02/24/12 08:15 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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ToiletDuk said:
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Meteloides said:
They also prevented the people from being anally violated by the government. Or at least made the process much more difficult for the government.
Thanks to the wars on drugs and terror, it's considerably easier for the government to do so than it used to be.
It sure is. But we had 200-ish years before they started getting really good at circumventing the constitution. More specifically, at convincing us to give up our constitutional rights.
Fear is the enemy of freedom. 
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SlashOZ said:
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Meteloides said:
It's easy to talk about this when you're listed as living in "reality".
You obviously don't live in the states.
I am from the states and I think our constitution is straight fucked. Heck, I'm studying U.S. constitutional law right now at law school in the good ol' US of A. I also think people that use arguments such as "that is unconstitutional" to support their agend are equally full of shit by appealing to an arbitrary set of rules similar to how religious people try to impose their views on others by appealing to the Truth contained in their religious texts.
It's really hard to argue for or against anything from a perspective of objective reality, though.
Like, the government is doing something that is clearly messed up or oppressive or privacy-violating or what-have-you.
If you point at it and declare, "That is wrong." You don't have a legal leg to stand on.
If you point at it and invoke your religion and the inalienable rights of man, you will be laughed at.
All we can really do is say, "Hey! You're breaking the agreed-upon rules!" It isn't fair and we know it. But the only way we can oppose it is with the Constitution.
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ToiletDuk
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Re: Fuck the US constitution [Re: SlashOZ]
#15858737 - 02/24/12 08:16 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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If they did that, it could turn into a real horror show. In a perfect world, they would come up with something fair and equitable to all, but the world is far from perfect. The constitution isn't perfect, but it's the best we have so far.
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Re: Fuck the US constitution [Re: SlashOZ] 2
#15858746 - 02/24/12 08:18 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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what year are you?
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