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 happy tree man
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 Going to college in Canada 
#15830923 - 02/19/12 08:52 AM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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I'm a junior in high school living in Florida. My grades are good (3.82 gpa) and my major interest is chemistry. I want to get out of the United States, so I'm looking into Canada for my college studies. Unfortunately, tuition would be about 15000 dollars a semester. Does any one have any info on how I could lower this? The majority of scholarships I found for going to college in Canada are just a travel abroad type deal for a semester or a year. Maybe someone knows of a listing of Canadian scholarships for international students they can direct me to?
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Slayer1024
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you would probably be better off studying chemistry in the US and then moving to canada
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King Klick
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Re: Going to college in Canada [Re: Slayer1024]
#15830942 - 02/19/12 09:04 AM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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And your 18 and a junior right? 
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happy tree man
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Re: Going to college in Canada [Re: King Klick]
#15831506 - 02/19/12 12:10 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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We'll of course, King! How could it be any other way? 
Yeah, I may have to do that, Slayer... but before I do commit myself to that I want to get some real answers to my question.
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Slayer1024
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Re: Going to college in Canada [Re: Slayer1024]
#15833874 - 02/19/12 09:03 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Ok, It's looking pretty bleak... Unless I come onto some break through, it looks like I'm stuck here for another 4 years
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 DieCommie
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Kick ass as an undergrad and then grad school would be a perfect time to move because you have a paycheck and tuition lined up for you.
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happy tree man
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Re: Going to college in Canada [Re: DieCommie]
#15836920 - 02/20/12 12:08 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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DieCommie said:
Kick ass as an undergrad and then grad school would be a perfect time to move because you have a paycheck and tuition lined up for you.
Would you say thats still a possibility if I don't go to a private school for undergrad?
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DieCommie
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Quote:
happy tree man said:
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DieCommie said:
Kick ass as an undergrad and then grad school would be a perfect time to move because you have a paycheck and tuition lined up for you.
Would you say thats still a possibility if I don't go to a private school for undergrad?
Yea. Most people dont go to private schools. IMO, they are just a name brand for the rich and dont offer much besides a big bill.
You can go to community college for the first two years, that wont hurt your career.
If you want to actually be a chemist rather than just getting some degrees in chemistry you will want to go to a good university for graduate school. Undergrad isnt that important. (edit - I should clarify, as long as you are in a tier 1 research university for undergrad. Most state schools are such. You will want to get into research as an undergrad if you want to do chemistry.)
Edited by DieCommie (02/20/12 03:05 PM)
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badchad
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You could look into the residency requirements for Canada. Maybe you could take a year off and work there, obtain residency, then go to school.
Like others have said, if you plan on graduate work, nobody really cares about the school name, its who you work for and what you do.
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Re: Going to college in Canada [Re: badchad]
#15838534 - 02/20/12 06:43 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Do you guys know of any schools in Canada that offer a particularly good chemistry graduate program?
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DieCommie
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Like badchad says, "nobody really cares about the school name, its who you work for and what you do."
In fields like business and law you dont really do research so your reputation hangs on your school (as a fresh graduate). But scientists do research and their reputation rests on the research they do and the papers they get published (also as a fresh graduate).
Because of this, its better to look for schools that have particular researchers and fields you are interested in. After you have done three years as an undergrad you will hopefully have some experience and idea of what you want to do and you will apply to schools with groups doing the kind of research you want to do.
At this point you dont know what kind of research you want to do, so there is no way to judge which schools would be good or bad.
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thescientist
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Come here as an international student.
It'll be way cheaper.
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thescientist
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lots of chemistry gwan up herr
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happy tree man
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Quote:
thescientist said:
Come here as an international student.
It'll be way cheaper.
Haha not really for my undergrad. I could go to a public college here for around 4000 dollars a year! Unless you know of any particular scholarships Canada gives to international students?
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badchad
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If and when the time comes, I'd urge you to look into the program requirements and job prospects that go along with a foreign degree. It may not be competitive in the U.S. market.
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...the whole experience is (and is as) a profound piece of knowledge. It is an indellible experience; it is forever known. I have known myself in a way I doubt I would have ever occurred except as it did.
Smith, P. Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.
...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.
Osmond, H. Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436
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happy tree man
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Re: Going to college in Canada [Re: badchad]
#15848730 - 02/22/12 07:49 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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I'm not going to college in Canada to live and work in the United States. I want to get out of the United States
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thescientist
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happy tree man said:
I'm not going to college in Canada to live and work in the United States. I want to get out of the United States
Not a bad idea.
Look into programs at SAIT in Calgary, AB.
Wages are high in AB as well. If you work hard you can pay for school, debt free as you go.
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happy tree man
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I dont think SAIT it right. It seems like a technical school... I'm looking to get my BS, MS, and maybe my PhD
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thescientist
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If you want to GTFO of america, SAIT will provide you with what you need to have a successful career.
As a chemist, are you planning to work for big pharma?
Yes, a M and a PhD sound good but what are you going to do with them.
There is a glut of PhD's in Canada fighting tooth and claw for credential-appropriate fulltime employment.
As a MSc chemistry graduate, what will your career direction be?
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happy tree man
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As a chemist, are you planning to work for big pharma?
I don't know what I want to do. I just know I love chemistry. It's like applied magic...
I don't think I want to work for pharmaceutical companies. It seems like all pharma does is make big money off of peoples sickness and suppress things like cannabis and psilocybin from being used in their natural state for medicinal reasons. But this view may be completely wrong, and I beg you to remove me from misinformation if I am... well... misinformed.
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