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Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..."
    #15769511 - 02/06/12 07:29 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)



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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Hologram] * 1
    #15769538 - 02/06/12 07:34 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Hologram]
    #15769539 - 02/06/12 07:34 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Yeah, take her out back and shoot her.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: propensity]
    #15769562 - 02/06/12 07:37 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

i bet she ends up in an insane asylum


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: propensity]
    #15769564 - 02/06/12 07:38 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

"I just f------ killed someone. I strangled them and slit their throat and stabbed them now they're dead. I don't know how to feel atm. It was ahmazing. As soon as you get over the "ohmygawd I can't do this" feeling, it's pretty enjoyable. I'm kinda nervous and shaky though right now. Kay, I gotta go to church now...lol."


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Hologram]
    #15769572 - 02/06/12 07:39 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Hologram]
    #15769588 - 02/06/12 07:41 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Taker her out back and shoot her.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Hologram] * 3
    #15769599 - 02/06/12 07:43 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Sociopaths are people too.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #15769634 - 02/06/12 07:49 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

She should be "humanely" disposed of then, unlike her victim.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Hologram] * 7
    #15769716 - 02/06/12 08:03 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Girl kills someone, then goes to church

CAUSE OR EFFECT?!


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." *DELETED* [Re: Hologram]
    #15769729 - 02/06/12 08:04 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Kumara]
    #15769750 - 02/06/12 08:08 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

:yesnod:


although a knife kill would be a bit tougher to get in a combat zone.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #15769774 - 02/06/12 08:11 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Yeah, an 18 year old killing a 9 year old...lets ask Russia if we can send her to Siberia.


But I DID laugh at her journal entry. I feel dirty about it now, but I did laugh.

What a strange person...


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Hologram]
    #15769814 - 02/06/12 08:17 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

:laugh:eathseriousbusiness:


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Anneji]
    #15769886 - 02/06/12 08:31 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)



Kinda cute in a JB kinda way.  She's definitely a psychopath, needs to be put away for life regardless.  There's nothing that can change how this girl is mentally, she'll never feel real emotions.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: abltsandwich]
    #15769936 - 02/06/12 08:41 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

i don't think she should get the death penalty, in my opinion a life sentence is more severe punishment.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: SurReality]
    #15769948 - 02/06/12 08:43 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

I grew up in MO, good people.

I'll bet she's just misunderstood, poor girl.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: SurReality] * 3
    #15769993 - 02/06/12 08:51 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

I'd bang her in a few years.  Girl psychopaths give me the warm 'n fuzzies.  :inlove:


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: egodeathflux] * 1
    #15769996 - 02/06/12 08:52 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

yeah lets kill her back!


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: SurReality]
    #15770065 - 02/06/12 09:06 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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i don't think she should get the death penalty, in my opinion a life sentence is more severe punishment.




Your opinion would not be shared the majority of death row inmates who fight tooth and nail to get life sentence over death.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: DieCommie]
    #15770077 - 02/06/12 09:09 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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SurReality said:
i don't think she should get the death penalty, in my opinion a life sentence is more severe punishment.




Your opinion would not be shared the majority of death row inmates who fight tooth and nail to get life sentence over death.



it also wouldn't be shared with the majority of people who think its rediculous to spend millions of dollars housing, feeding, and providing health care for, an inmate who should probably just be killed.  clearly not fit for society - kill her.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: meams]
    #15770082 - 02/06/12 09:11 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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it also wouldn't be shared with the majority of people who think its rediculous to spend millions of dollars housing, feeding, and providing health care for, an inmate who should probably just be killed.  clearly not fit for society - kill her.




Are you claiming that the US legal system spends less on an execution than life imprisonment?  I find that hard to believe for some reason.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Hologram]
    #15770092 - 02/06/12 09:13 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Send her to the gas chair.







Seriously though. Sociopath, has killed a child, no point in letting her out of jail again.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: DieCommie]
    #15770112 - 02/06/12 09:18 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

the US prison syestem is fucked anyways.



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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: deCypher] * 1
    #15770120 - 02/06/12 09:20 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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I'd bang her in a few years.  Girl psychopaths give me the warm 'n fuzzies.  :inlove:



She's already 18. No need to wait! :eatingout:


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: DieCommie] * 2
    #15770129 - 02/06/12 09:22 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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it also wouldn't be shared with the majority of people who think its rediculous to spend millions of dollars housing, feeding, and providing health care for, an inmate who should probably just be killed.  clearly not fit for society - kill her.




Are you claiming that the US legal system spends less on an execution than life imprisonment?  I find that hard to believe for some reason.





Yeah, I am claiming that.  how much can it cost to kill an inmate?  This girl is like 18 years old.  Think about what it costs to house/feed/care for (dental, etc) an inmate for the ~60+ years she's going to remain alive.... then think about the cost of the lethal injection.  seems like a no-brainer.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: DieCommie]
    #15770197 - 02/06/12 09:33 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Hmm i hate to say it but she's a white girl and probably wont get anything near what she deserves as a sentence...not that i could say what her sentence should be but considering this case

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/03/09/national/main277536.shtml

...in which a young black boy accidentally kills his neighbor practicing wrestling moves. Not asking for the inquisition just some damn consistency.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: B0b0]
    #15770224 - 02/06/12 09:38 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

So....a white chick killed another white chick....BIG NEWS! :shockandawe:


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: the_drummer] * 1
    #15770253 - 02/06/12 09:43 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

If she would have raped her first then killed her would make this story so much more :ancientaliens:


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: B0b0]
    #15770279 - 02/06/12 09:46 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/03/09/national/main277536.shtml




:awedisgust: Can you do that to a 12yo? life without parole for a playing accident?


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: abltsandwich]
    #15770285 - 02/06/12 09:47 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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"They testified that Bustamante acknowledged digging it but said she just liked to dig holes"

She's good at having a good defence too :facepalm:


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: meams]
    #15770301 - 02/06/12 09:49 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Yeah, I am claiming that.  how much can it cost to kill an inmate?  This girl is like 18 years old.  Think about what it costs to house/feed/care for (dental, etc) an inmate for the ~60+ years she's going to remain alive.... then think about the cost of the lethal injection.  seems like a no-brainer.




It's more than just the cost of the injection. She can appeal, all the way up to the Supreme Court, so you have the court costs of each appeal. Plus, if she doesn't pay for her own lawyer, the state is obligated to provide legal counsel. Appeals are generally long, drawn out processes, so they still have the expense of housing, feeding and caring for her while she goes through the process.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: mytehdogizflying]
    #15770352 - 02/06/12 09:56 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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It's more than just the cost of the injection. She can appeal, all the way up to the Supreme Court, so you have the court costs of each appeal. Plus, if she doesn't pay for her own lawyer, the state is obligated to provide legal counsel. Appeals are generally long, drawn out processes, so they still have the expense of housing, feeding and caring for her while she goes through the process.



I'm well aware.  I don't have any hard numbers (or soft numbers), so we can't take this debate any farther....

...but i stand by my contention.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
    #15770363 - 02/06/12 09:57 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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B0b0 said:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/03/09/national/main277536.shtml




:awedisgust: Can you do that to a 12yo? life without parole for a playing accident?




There was evidence that the girl had suffered severe trauma well beyond what would be considered by most people to be a "playing accident."  Read the last paragraph of the posted link.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: SurReality]
    #15770489 - 02/06/12 10:16 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Slowly cut her fingers off one by one, then give her life in solitary.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #15770940 - 02/06/12 11:34 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Slowly cut her fingers off one by one, then give her life in solitary.





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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: poiuytrewa]
    #15770950 - 02/06/12 11:36 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Bustamante, same last name as a guy who killed his ex girlfriend and then himself the night before the first day of classes at my university last fall.

Bustamante, if you know anyone by that name you're probably dead.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: SlashOZ]
    #15770968 - 02/06/12 11:39 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Bustamante, if you know anyone by that name you're probably dead.



I used to have a boss named Bustamante. Should I be worried?


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: shadowplay]
    #15770979 - 02/06/12 11:41 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Bustamante, if you know anyone by that name you're probably dead.



I used to have a boss named Bustamante. Should I be worried?



:aweman:

probably.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: SlashOZ]
    #15771083 - 02/07/12 12:00 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

lol the people on death row are probably going to be there like 10 years anyway its not exactly a quick process, the only reason i would prefer a life sentence over a death sentence was if i was innocent and  there was a chance i would get out of prison or something...

give me liberty or give me death.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: SurReality]
    #15771232 - 02/07/12 12:32 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

I remember reading about this online right when it happened back then. Cases is like this is why people of all ages should be able to face the death penalty instead of just 18yo+


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: ShiVersblood]
    #15771248 - 02/07/12 12:36 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

that and that josh powell fag are all over the television plus lighting tap water on fire.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Mafeki]
    #15771258 - 02/07/12 12:39 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

The real sad part is that is said that the maxium penalty she faces is life in prison WITH the chance of parol. She could be out in 20 years or as little as 10. When she gets released, she will probably get married and then one night when her husband is sleeping she will brutually murder him. Everyone will act all suprised and when asked why she did it she will say, "Cuz I enjoyed it fooL!"


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: ShiVersblood]
    #15771303 - 02/07/12 12:53 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Wow.... Chick just kills a little girl to "see what it would feel like", they should just give her the death penalty, end of discussion.

also none of that lethal injection bullshit, we need to start hanging people again.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: 2Cents]
    #15771323 - 02/07/12 12:58 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Johnny Cash shot a man in Reno just to watch him die.  Did we execute Johnny Cash?  Hmmmm?  Didn't think so.  :smirk:


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: 2Cents]
    #15771326 - 02/07/12 12:58 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

because its unconstitutional - cruel and unusual, its not always an instant death if your neck don't snap your left to struggle and a suffocate its no different than the gas chamber not to mention all the racism tied in the hangings from the kkk.

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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: deCypher]
    #15771336 - 02/07/12 01:00 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Johnny Cash shot a man in Reno just to watch him die.  Did we execute Johnny Cash?  Hmmmm?  Didn't think so.  :smirk:




lol yea and marshal mathers kidnapped dre and locked him in his basement.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: ShiVersblood]
    #15771360 - 02/07/12 01:07 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Your opinion comes off as distasteful and visceral. I can't bare to judge something so inhuman even if she did it for joy, momentary or whatever reason, it doesn't matter. Humanity isn't perfect and shouldn't label something as 'evil' just 'cause you don't understand it. She may be a deviance but there's no reason to ignore the fact she's human.


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    #15771387 - 02/07/12 01:14 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Mafeki]
    #15771391 - 02/07/12 01:16 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

i have a minor in criminal justice (not that it really matters) and apparently it is cheaper for a life sentence because a death sentence requires all the appeals process and all the fees that go along with attorneys and judges ect. make it ultimately more expensive than just throwing someone in a cage


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: kiss_the_sky03]
    #15771599 - 02/07/12 02:05 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Wow, SHE GOT OFF WITH 2ND DEGREE... what the fuck just happened?



I say we crucify her... or send her to one of those Mexican prisons with no guards, in a thong.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: CrossingTheStar] * 1
    #15771921 - 02/07/12 03:34 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Mafeki]
    #15771959 - 02/07/12 03:52 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Your opinion comes off as distasteful and visceral. I can't bare to judge something so inhuman even if she did it for joy, momentary or whatever reason, it doesn't matter. Humanity isn't perfect and shouldn't label something as 'evil' just 'cause you don't understand it. She may be a deviance but there's no reason to ignore the fact she's human.




Da fuck outta here.

Kill her.

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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Niffla]
    #15771963 - 02/07/12 03:56 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: SurReality]
    #15773170 - 02/07/12 12:17 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Also, to those that said life in prison is a better punishment i think the way we have em wait on death row for years and years before frying them is better. They get to have that "fuck im in prison forever " feeling of despair and then they still get killed like they deserve but not before lots of suffering/isolation.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Hologram]
    #15774064 - 02/07/12 04:08 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Why was she not charged with 1st degree murder?


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Re: Teenage murderer, [Re: 2Cents] * 1
    #15774208 - 02/07/12 04:43 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

why not just put her in the military? those people like to kill people dont they


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: 2Cents]
    #15774833 - 02/07/12 06:50 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Why was she not charged with 1st degree murder?



probably because she was not an adult when she committed the crime.


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    #15786884 - 02/10/12 04:17 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. (AP) — A central Missouri teenager who confessed to strangling, cutting and stabbing a 9-year-old girl because she wanted to know how it felt to kill someone was sentenced Wednesday to life in prison with the possibility of parole.

Alyssa Bustamante, 18, pleaded guilty in January to second-degree murder and armed criminal action in the October 2009 slaying of Elizabeth Olten in St. Martins, a small rural town west of Jefferson City.

The judge also ordered the teen to serve a consecutive 30-year term in the armed criminal action charge.

Bustamante was 15 years old when she confessed to strangling Elizabeth, repeatedly stabbing her in the chest and slicing the girl's throat. She led police to the shallow grave where she had concealed Elizabeth's body under a blanket of leaves in the woods behind their neighborhood.

With her hands shackled to her waist and her feet shackled together, Bustamante rose and faced Elizabeth's mother and siblings before she was sentenced Wednesday.

"I know words," she said, pausing to take a deep breath and struggling to compose herself, "can never be enough and they can never adequately describe how horribly I feel for all of this."

She added: "If I could give my life to get her back I would. I'm sorry."

Elizabeth's mother, Patty Preiss, who on the first day of Bustamante's sentencing hearing called her "an evil monster" and declared that she "hated her" sat silently, staring forward during Bustamante's apology.

The Olten family declined to comment to reporters, as did Bustamante's family.

Bustamante had been charged with first-degree murder and by pleading guilty to the lesser charges she avoided a trial and the possibility of spending her life in an adult prison with no chance of release.

The teenager's defense attorneys had argued for a sentence less than life in prison, saying Bustamante's use of the antidepressant Prozac had made her more prone to violence. They said she had suffered from depression for years and once attempted suicide by overdosing on painkillers.

But prosecutors sought a longer sentence. They noted that Bustamante had dug two graves several days in advance, and that on the evening of the killing had sent her younger sister to lure Elizabeth outside with an invitation to play. Missouri State Highway Patrol Sgt. David Rice testified that the teenager told him "she wanted to know what it felt like" to kill someone. Prosecutors also cited journal entries in which Bustamante described the exhilaration of killing Elizabeth.

"I strangled them and slit their throat and stabbed them now they're dead," Bustamante wrote in her diary, which was read in court by a handwriting expert. "I don't know how to feel atm. It was ahmazing. As soon as you get over the 'ohmygawd I can't do this' feeling, it's pretty enjoyable. I'm kinda nervous and shaky though right now. Kay, I gotta go to church now...lol."

Bustamante then headed off to a youth dance at her church while a massive search began for the missing girl..




Obviously this girl had a harsh sentence coming but i can't help but feel sorry for her with the weight of years she has to spend behind bars. It's almost as if she wont have a life at all, not that she deserves one after what she did but it nevertheless still feels like a waste...and only 18 :frown:

Hopefully she'll find something fulfilling to occupy the long time she has a head.

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Re: She Gets Life With Possible Parole [Re: B0b0]
    #15786924 - 02/10/12 04:28 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

i dunno.  To me she looks like a really fucked up unhappy child.  prozac is some serious shit.

I dunno.  personally i think the parents are the real failures here.  they're not going to prison for the entire good part of their lives though.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Hologram]
    #15786931 - 02/10/12 04:32 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/06/alyssa-bustamante-killing-ahmazing-enjoyable_n_1258579.html


i hope they kill the bitch.



Word hope she burns in hell for eternity


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    #15787016 - 02/10/12 05:04 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Whats the big deal about killing people?  I think the real idiots are the ones that overreact to shit like this.

The authorities should just make a big bomb that blows up the entire world, cuz we are all just the same person and we baadddd

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    #15787020 - 02/10/12 05:06 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

She was an innocent 9 yrs old girl that didnt do a fucking thing thats the big deal


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
    #15787056 - 02/10/12 05:19 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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B0b0 said:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/03/09/national/main277536.shtml




:awedisgust: Can you do that to a 12yo? life without parole for a playing accident?




His lawyer and mother failed him. The article says they were given a plea bargain that would give him 3 years in juvy and 1 year of house arrest.

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    #15787417 - 02/10/12 08:51 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/03/09/national/main277536.shtml




:awedisgust: Can you do that to a 12yo? life without parole for a playing accident?




His lawyer and mother failed him. The article says they were given a plea bargain that would give him 3 years in juvy and 1 year of house arrest.

But, they declined it.





Ack :sad:


12yo black kid gets carried away playing and accidentally kills.. life without parole.

18yo white girl kills in cold blood with zero remorse and gets life WITH parole.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Seriously_Spaced]
    #15787511 - 02/10/12 09:38 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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She was an innocent 9 yrs old girl that didnt do a fucking thing thats the big deal




agreed.

shit like this makes me fucking sick and scares the shit out of me. i cant even comprehend acts like this half the time. in no way am i a sensitive fuck tard hippie, but im pretty close to a few of my chicks nieces and nephews and i couldnt even imagine if something like this were to happen to them. no kid ever deserves shit like this. just thinking about that little girls last few seconds alive is... fucked.

with that being said, if something like this were to ever happen im pretty sure i would pull a time to kill on these ass holes. why am i going to chance some slippage through the cracks.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Poor Boy]
    #15787622 - 02/10/12 10:23 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Haha, "pull a time to kill", "slippage through the cracks".

What are you talking about?


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    #15787786 - 02/10/12 11:21 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Whats the big deal about killing people?  I think the real idiots are the ones that overreact to shit like this.




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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #15787805 - 02/10/12 11:25 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

I think the girl deserves a second chance,
How can everyone be so quick to judge


Im being serious btw, I've had dreams where I accidentally killed someone and woke up feeling terrible and thinking I was in trouble, and asking "what did I do?"

So I almost know the feeling she had.. I don't think her life deserves to be taken away (eye for eye/tooth for tooth) thats some primitive biblical shit..

Why not try to study/understand her illness and help her. Instead of institutionalizing her and making her 100 x crazier for when she eventually DOES get out of jail with 10 + years of hatred built up inside


The justice system is fucked..

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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Pscientist]
    #15787820 - 02/10/12 11:31 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

because it has been proven time and time again that our "justice" system does not re-rehabilitate people and people normally end up committing crimes again..... whether it be due to them actually being mentally defective or being placed into situations they have no chance of succeeding in, I don't know.... I'd guess a bit of both

It doesn't really matter to me. I believe in that old biblical "bullshit" about an eye for an eye. But, hey, being held accountable for one's actions is just old school these days:shrug:


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Pscientist]
    #15787823 - 02/10/12 11:31 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

In her defense..


Have you ever been to missouri?

Great landscape, great art, great casinos (if you have friends), but I WOULD NEVER RAISE A CHILD THERE.

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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: kiss_the_sky03]
    #15787835 - 02/10/12 11:35 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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It doesn't really matter to me. I believe in that old biblical "bullshit" about an eye for an eye. But, hey, being held accountable for one's actions is just old school these days:shrug:





Certainly being held accountable is only right, but the sanctity of a life must come into question. Why end 2 lives when only 1 live has to end. I think the girl was scared after she killed, and probably regretted it severely.


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    #15787867 - 02/10/12 11:49 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Whats the big deal about killing people?  I think the real idiots are the ones that overreact to shit like this.





really?  cause i think the real idiots are the ones killing people....



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    #15787894 - 02/10/12 11:56 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Maybe one day YOU will make a big mistake and beg for mercy :lol:




Well, you will have a point when my big mistake involves the murdering and boasting about said murder of a 9 year old girl:strokebeard:


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    #15787904 - 02/10/12 11:59 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Haha, "pull a time to kill", "slippage through the cracks".

What are you talking about?




dude... the movie A Time To Kill

i wouldnt want some ass hole to slip through the cracks and get a small amount of time in jail then be on parole for a few more years. fuck that!!!

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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: kiss_the_sky03]
    #15787922 - 02/10/12 12:05 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Pscientist said:
Maybe one day YOU will make a big mistake and beg for mercy :lol:




Well, you will have a point when my big mistake involves the murdering and boasting about said murder of a 9 year old girl:strokebeard:





:facepalm:


A diary is boasting is it?:ilold:

shes troubled, shes trying to vent to anything about the deep emotions shes experiencing


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Pscientist]
    #15787927 - 02/10/12 12:08 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Yes, I would consider claiming it was "AHMAZING" to be boasting.

or, id you'd like, remove my comment about boasting and you can just leave the murdering aspect of it.

When I murder someone and beg for mercy, then you will have a point, I guess


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: kiss_the_sky03]
    #15787943 - 02/10/12 12:12 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Yes, I would consider claiming it was "AHMAZING" to be boasting.

or, id you'd like, remove my comment about boasting and you can just leave the murdering aspect of it.

When I murder someone and beg for mercy, then you will have a point, I guess





Well its easier than you think, lol.. don't be so arrogant when you don't even know so many factors about this girl, her life, the other childs life and the entire situation. This is a news article, written to be entertaining and interesting remember that.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Pscientist]
    #15787958 - 02/10/12 12:17 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

The quotes were taken from this girls journal...


I understand the tactics of sensationalists but they dont have anything to do with this girls actions and the way she felt about them afterwards.

Usually when writing to a journal, you are under no pressure and are very honest as the only intended audience is yourself.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Wiccan_Seeker] * 3
    #15788032 - 02/10/12 12:35 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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12yo black kid gets carried away playing and accidentally kills.. life without parole.

18yo white girl kills in cold blood with zero remorse and gets life WITH parole.


Just saying :thumbdown:





Ha, you really are too much Wiccan...  Sometimes I wonder if you actually believe the crap you spew...  But sadly I think you do.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: DieCommie]
    #15788044 - 02/10/12 12:37 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Is what he said not fact?

what "crap"?


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Hologram] * 4
    #15788071 - 02/10/12 12:43 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

His racist bigoted crap.  He conveniently ignores any information that makes the black murderer look bad and focuses on information that makes the white murderer look bad.  He completely washes over the intricacies of the cases and the states they are held in and reduces it down to a simple matter of race - something he always does.

He's a racist and a race baiter.  A close minded broken record that defaults to blame the white man each and every time, regardless of the specifics.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: propensity]
    #15788103 - 02/10/12 12:54 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Yeah, take her out back and shoot her.




pretty much this exactly

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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: DieCommie]
    #15788183 - 02/10/12 01:13 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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He's a racist and a race baiter.  A close minded broken record that defaults to blame the white man each and every time, regardless of the specifics.




So much for discussing this :rolleyes: Your mind is made up.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
    #15788194 - 02/10/12 01:17 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

I know for a fact that she will kill again when she is released. It will most likely be the guy she marries. This is one of the reasons why we even need the death penalty in the first place. And yet they are too cowardly to use it in this case.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
    #15788255 - 02/10/12 01:37 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

a fact...

:rofl2:
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Wiccan_Seeker said:
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He's a racist and a race baiter.  A close minded broken record that defaults to blame the white man each and every time, regardless of the specifics.




So much for discussing this :rolleyes: Your mind is made up.




not that i fully agree with you, but i hate having conversations with people whos minds are made up.

my chick is like this. she will read some bullshit article on facebook then stand by it 100% not fully understanding whats actually going on.

i try explaining to her that she needs to read more than some dudes opinion. half the shit on face book is retarded anyway.

i want facts and links. until then... im :pokerawe:


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Pscientist]
    #15788725 - 02/10/12 04:59 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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I think the girl deserves a second chance,
How can everyone be so quick to judge


Im being serious btw, I've had dreams where I accidentally killed someone and woke up feeling terrible and thinking I was in trouble, and asking "what did I do?"

So I almost know the feeling she had.. I don't think her life deserves to be taken away (eye for eye/tooth for tooth) thats some primitive biblical shit..

Why not try to study/understand her illness and help her. Instead of institutionalizing her and making her 100 x crazier for when she eventually DOES get out of jail with 10 + years of hatred built up inside


The justice system is fucked..

Also, she's a cutie :naughty:



She murdered an 9 year old girl that probablly would have had a wonderfull life and didnt urt anyone and some motherfucking evil delinquint kills her in an extermely brutal way stabbing her multiple times and strangling her shewas killed bfore she had a real chance atlife because that sick evil fuck "wanted to feel what it was lke to kill someone"AND she thought it was amazing ffuck that she is is sick littke fucker that needs to go traight toell to be raped by the devil


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: abltsandwich]
    #15788760 - 02/10/12 05:07 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Hmm i hate to say it but she's a white girl and probably wont get anything near what she deserves as a sentence...not that i could say what her sentence should be but considering this case

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/03/09/national/main277536.shtml

...in which a young black boy accidentally kills his neighbor practicing wrestling moves. Not asking for the inquisition just some damn consistency.




that's quite the racist post you've made

should the kid's lawyer have constantly rejected the plea deals that would
have reduced the sentence and the charges? probably not but you know, hindsight


but then maybe he shouldnt have recieved any sort of sentence at all,
afterall, he only beat a 6yo little girl to death

"Yet in imposing the sentence, Judge Joel Lazarus called the slaying of 6-year-old Tiffany Eunick "cold, callous and indescribably cruel."

Tate was found guilty Jan. 25 of beating Tiffany to death at his home. Tiffany suffered a fractured skull, a lacerated liver and more than 30 other injuries on July 28, 1999, fro being punched, kicked, stomped "
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Kinda cute in a JB kinda way.  She's definitely a psychopath, needs to be put away for life regardless.  There's nothing that can change how this girl is mentally, she'll never feel real emotions.




maybe not but scould seel an ice pick scramble her brain and turn her into
a veggie, maybe she'd feel being strapped to a board and being used as a
fuck doll by homeless people and leapers


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Wiccan_Seeker] * 2
    #15788814 - 02/10/12 05:17 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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12yo black kid gets carried away playing and accidentally kills.. life without parole.





the boy beat a 6yo kid to death, that's not getting a little carried away
with play time. he beat the little girl for 45 minutes

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/1999-08-14/news/9908131171_1_tiffany-eunick-lionel-tate-medical-examiner
"Left alone on July 28 with the 166-pound boy who has been described as an avid wrestling fan, the 48-pound girl apparently was battered about like a rag doll used to practice wrestling moves.

Tiffany suffered over 30 internal and external contusions, abrasions, fractures and scratches. One body blow to the girl's frail frame was so severe, it detached part of her liver, according to the report."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lionel_Tate
"Tate was left alone with Eunick, who was being babysat by Tate's mother, Kathleen Grossett-Tate. While the children were downstairs playing, Tate's mother called up to them to be quiet. Tate came down 45 minutes later to say that Eunick was not breathing. He states that they were wrestling, he had her in a head lock and slammed the child's head into the table.

Tate was convicted of killing Eunick by stomping on her so forcefully that her liver was lacerated.[2] Her other injuries included a fractured skull, fractured rib and swollen brain. These injuries were characterized by the prosecution as "similar to those she would have sustained by falling from a three-story building."[3] In sentencing Tate to life imprisonment, Judge Joel T. Lazarus of Broward County Circuit Court said that "The acts of Lionel Tate were not the playful acts of a child [...] The acts of Lionel Tate were cold, callous and indescribably cruel."[4]"


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #15788819 - 02/10/12 05:19 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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maybe not but scould seel an ice pick scramble her brain and turn her into
a veggie, maybe she'd feel being strapped to a board and being used as a
fuck doll by homeless people and leapers



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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: riverdweller] * 1
    #15788865 - 02/10/12 05:30 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:

maybe not but scould seel an ice pick scramble her brain and turn her into
a veggie, maybe she'd feel being strapped to a board and being used as a
fuck doll by homeless people and leapers



spit my coffee on this one.  rawr!





was it my terrible spelling?


if people dont want someone that kills an innocent kid put to death
then there's always a way to provide a fitting punishment and
unfortunately the human rights people will start screaming about it
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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: DieCommie]
    #15789228 - 02/10/12 06:40 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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His racist bigoted crap.  He conveniently ignores any information that makes the black murderer look bad and focuses on information that makes the white murderer look bad.  He completely washes over the intricacies of the cases and the states they are held in and reduces it down to a simple matter of race - something he always does.

He's a racist and a race baiter.  A close minded broken record that defaults to blame the white man each and every time, regardless of the specifics.



I must have missed something.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Hologram]
    #15789418 - 02/10/12 07:22 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

how can you guys think she deserves to live, kill that fucking bitch! id like to see her tortured alive at the least. she needs to be treated how she treated her victim, she just laughed about it. you guys are fucking sick, id love to kill her in revenge and i wouldnt feel bad about it, its like pulling a weed out of a garden, and im not sayin a weed plant you can smoke!


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: wocka]
    #15789432 - 02/10/12 07:25 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Curiousgeorge22]
    #15789446 - 02/10/12 07:29 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

She should be given a medal for helping with the overpopulation problem.  :trophy:


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: deCypher]
    #15789453 - 02/10/12 07:31 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

oh yah a medal? what if it was you or some one you loved.. ur fucked up in the head decypher


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: deCypher]
    #15789468 - 02/10/12 07:35 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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She should be given a medal for helping with the overpopulation problem.  :trophy:




Oh you...

There is no overpopulation problem.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: DieCommie]
    #15789707 - 02/10/12 08:40 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

The death penalty is definitely more costly than life imprisonment. And with capital punishment you run the risk of killing an innocent person.

Also, people die from war, hunger and disease every day. Other people profit from all this. What Alyssa Bustamante did was bad, but it's relatively minor. The focus shouldn't be on punishing, it should be on helping.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: zappateer] * 1
    #15789727 - 02/10/12 08:46 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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The death penalty is definitely more costly than life imprisonment. And with capital punishment you run the risk of killing an innocent person.

Also, people die from war, hunger and disease every day. Other people profit from all this. What Alyssa Bustamante did was bad, but it's relatively minor. The focus shouldn't be on punishing, it should be on helping.




Minor? are you fucking kidding me? she stabbed a 9 year old up, half strangled her to death then slit her fuckin throat open to finish her and went home to write about how awesome the whole experience was for her. Lets see how minor you would view it if it was your own mothers throat getting cut open.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #15789739 - 02/10/12 08:50 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Hmm i hate to say it but she's a white girl and probably wont get anything near what she deserves as a sentence...not that i could say what her sentence should be but considering this case

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/03/09/national/main277536.shtml

...in which a young black boy accidentally kills his neighbor practicing wrestling moves. Not asking for the inquisition just some damn consistency.




that's quite the racist post you've made

should the kid's lawyer have constantly rejected the plea deals that would
have reduced the sentence and the charges? probably not but you know, hindsight


but then maybe he shouldnt have recieved any sort of sentence at all,
afterall, he only beat a 6yo little girl to death

"Yet in imposing the sentence, Judge Joel Lazarus called the slaying of 6-year-old Tiffany Eunick "cold, callous and indescribably cruel."

Tate was found guilty Jan. 25 of beating Tiffany to death at his home. Tiffany suffered a fractured skull, a lacerated liver and more than 30 other injuries on July 28, 1999, fro being punched, kicked, stomped "





So are you claiming that this boy intentionally murdered his 6 y/o neighbor and that her injuries aren't consistent with amateurish wrestling knowledge and practice of such?! IMO i doubt the boy had no idea of what he was doing, and upon figuring out the big mistake he made, freaked.

Nevertheless, the plea deal was of much better punishment for the crime. Tho hindsight is a bitch sometimes :/

I wasn't making a racist statement just pleading for some consistency in our justice system.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #15789749 - 02/10/12 08:53 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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12yo black kid gets carried away playing and accidentally kills.. life without parole.




they reversed his sentence and let him out


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    #15789750 - 02/10/12 08:53 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

If I decide to become a hitman I'll have some target practice on her to see how it feels to kill somebody.

I'm sure it will feel ahmazing.


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    #15789755 - 02/10/12 08:54 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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IMO i doubt the boy had no idea of what he was doing




Why would you think that?

If you look at developmental and child psychology you will see that by age 12 kids clearly know the difference between life and death, violence and play and they know that death is permanent.  They also can understand and vicariously experience pain they observe in others.  This kind of stuff develops a couple years before 12 IIRC.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: deCypher]
    #15789802 - 02/10/12 09:06 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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She should be given a medal for helping with the overpopulation problem.  :trophy:





if by medal you really mean metal and by metal I mean lead, then sure because
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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #15789843 - 02/10/12 09:17 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Girl kills someone, then goes to church

CAUSE OR EFFECT?!



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I'll bet she's just misunderstood, poor girl.



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IMO i doubt the boy had no idea of what he was doing




Why would you think that?

If you look at developmental and child psychology you will see that by age 12 kids clearly know the difference between life and death, violence and play and they know that death is permanent.  They also can understand and vicariously experience pain they observe in others.  This kind of stuff develops a couple years before 12 IIRC.




I was talking about the injuries he would inflict on the little girl, and how to practice his wrestling moves safely, not his moral well being. I.e not knowing his own strength.


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    #15789926 - 02/10/12 09:42 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

You think there is a safe way to practice wrestling moves on a 6 year old girl?

Thats insane.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: B0b0]
    #15789956 - 02/10/12 09:50 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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So are you claiming that this boy intentionally murdered his 6 y/o neighbor and that her injuries aren't consistent with amateurish wrestling knowledge and practice of such?! IMO i doubt the boy had no idea of what he was doing, and upon figuring out the big mistake he made, freaked.




he beat the little girl repeatedly. beat her for 45 minutes, when the
little girl was crying was that enough to stop him? no. when the little
girl was screaming, did that stop him? no. WHEN THE LITTLE GIRL WAS
BLEEDING, DID THAT STOP HIM? NO.

she took a pounding for 45 minutes from this kid. it was a vicious and
brutal act and while the kid may have had no idea what he was doing he
certainly knew he was hurting a kid half his age. this wasnt putting a
little girl in a 'sleeper' hold and  accidentally cut the blood flow to
the brain, this was pounding on her, slamming her head into a table,
jumping on her torso several times. the little girl was unconscious long
before he was done with the beating. Do you know what the real tragedy is?
his mother wasnt put on trial as an accessory to murder because she simply
yelled at them to stop making so much noise as opposed to going to face
them and tell them, at least then the negligent cunt would have seen the
destruction the kid had wrought


and all this boy said to his mother was "Tiffany aint breathing" and then
claimed he accidentally killed her with a bear hug, the same kins of
bullshit story you're giving, one that certainly doesnt mesh with the facts

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/1999-08-14/news/9908131171_1_tiffany-eunick-lionel-tate-medical-examiner
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Six-year-old Tiffany Eunick did not die as a result of children's horseplay, but likely from a brutal, sustained beating, according to the Broward County Medical Examiner.

In the eight-page report, Dr. Joshua Perper, chief medical examiner for Broward, said he reviewed Tiffany's autopsy and in his opinion, the little girl suffered numerous injuries.

Tiffany suffered over 30 internal and external contusions, abrasions, fractures and scratches. One body blow to the girl's frail frame was so severe, it detached part of her liver, according to the report.

In addition to the partially severed liver, her brain had been "flattened" and was swollen, the report says. Her cheeks, nose, neck and chest were battered. Her right eye was hemorrhaging.





so you know what a contusion is? it's where the skin splits open from an
impact with something that isnt sharp. for instance a wall or a table.
wouldnt a normal human being at least get a bandaid for someone that was
bleeding?

wanna know what's even more tragic, his sentence was reduced to 10 years
of probation, he was sent home after serving a mere 3 years, he then
violated his 'house arrest' by leaving his house with a knife... Hmmmm, I
wonder what he was gonna do with that? and then after serving a few month
and getting an extra 5 years, he obtained a gun and robbed a pizza driver.
do you think he knew what he was doing then? sure seems like house arrest
was super duper effective in curbing his criminal behavior


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Nevertheless, the plea deal was of much better punishment for the crime. Tho hindsight is a bitch sometimes :/

I wasn't making a racist statement just pleading for some consistency in our justice system.




consistency? the boy only served 3 for the murder of a girl that he brutalized for 45 minutes, was stabbing, strangling and cutting the throat if another kid any better or worse? sure seems less brutal but the results are the same.

Alyssa Bustamante received a life sentence
http://www.newser.com/story/139273/ahmazing-teen-killer-sentenced-to-life.html


what did Lionel Tate receive? a life sentence


what's the difference? the 'white girl' will serve out her life sentence
while the 'black boy' was retried and given house arrest and allowed to
commit more crimes because he was free instead of incarcerated for the
brutal torture and grizzly murder of a 6yo little girl. a murderer you're
defending with "it really wasnt that bad, he didnt know any better"


I'm all for the death penalty for minors that commit crimes this brutal


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #15789965 - 02/10/12 09:53 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Growing up in maxium security prison would make anyone a criminal, no wonder he got sent back etc


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #15789977 - 02/10/12 09:56 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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what's the difference? the 'white girl' will serve out her life sentence
while the 'black boy' was retried and given house arrest and allowed to
commit more crimes because he was free instead of incarcerated for the
brutal torture and grizzly murder of a 6yo little girl. a murderer you're
defending with "it really wasnt that bad, he didnt know any better"





And they have the gall to cry racism against blacks...  Pathetic.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: ShiVersblood]
    #15789993 - 02/10/12 10:01 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Growing up in maxium security prison would make anyone a criminal, no wonder he got sent back etc




funny, I was under the impression that one had to be a criminal to be
sentenced to prison, he served 3 years in a juvenile detention facility
before being placed back in his home as punishment. he probably got sent
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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #15790000 - 02/10/12 10:03 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Juvenile detention? :rofl:


I went to one and it was a fuckin joke, great food, all you can eat, regular programs and a ton of shit to entertain you. Im on the outs and now I gotta pay for all that shit. How I wish I was 16 again.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #15790012 - 02/10/12 10:06 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Mine wasnt bad, but not that good.  We got a portion of food, no entertainment and work detail...


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: DieCommie]
    #15790051 - 02/10/12 10:15 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Lee Arrendale Correctional, known as Alto to folks in Ga was no cake walk, it
was a real prison for kids, it was a very dangerous place for very dangerous
people. at it's worst there was approximately one murder per week, there were
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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #15790098 - 02/10/12 10:28 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Damn man some of the people in this thread are unbelievable.  When defending the triflin sick little bitch do you stop and think about the little girl she killed? She took a persons life for no fucking reason. Oh wait there was a reason, cause it was ahmazing. That little girl doesn't get a chance to do anything anymore cause she is dead. But that doesn't cross some of your minds cause your to busy thinking about the poor little cunt who murdered her.
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Lee Arrendale Correctional, known as Alto to folks in Ga was no cake walk, it
was a real prison for kids, it was a very dangerous place for very dangerous
people. at it's worst there was approximately one murder per week, there were
rapes and all kinds of other heinous crimes being committed there by inmates
and guards. The feds stepped in and took over after about 2 or so years, sht
it down, redistributed the kids and then turned it into a women's prison



Right, I was thinking the above posters must live in a low crime area or something. What you just described sounds about the same as Lincoln Hills here in wisconsin which is a part of the regular DOC. Mini gladiator school.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #15790177 - 02/10/12 10:47 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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so you know what a contusion is? it's where the skin splits open from an
impact with something that isnt sharp. for instance a wall or a table.
wouldnt a normal human being at least get a bandaid for someone that was
bleeding?





actually contusion is just a fancy word for bruise.


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    #15790251 - 02/10/12 11:05 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
so you know what a contusion is? it's where the skin splits open from an
impact with something that isnt sharp. for instance a wall or a table.
wouldnt a normal human being at least get a bandaid for someone that was
bleeding?





actually contusion is just a fancy word for bruise.





son of a bitch... I was lied to in school and have spent my while life believing otherwise.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #15790261 - 02/10/12 11:07 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Anthony said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
so you know what a contusion is? it's where the skin splits open from an
impact with something that isnt sharp. for instance a wall or a table.
wouldnt a normal human being at least get a bandaid for someone that was
bleeding?





actually contusion is just a fancy word for bruise.





son of a bitch... I was lied to in school and have spent my while life believing otherwise.




:themoreyouknow:

:thumbup:

I do agree w/ you though, that kid is psychotic for continually beating a small child less than half his size. There's no way the girl agreed to be beaten, she had to be telling him to stop, crying, etc...

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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Anthony]
    #15790379 - 02/10/12 11:46 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Guys, chill the fuck out.

15 year old bitch kills 9 year old girl, she's evil
12 year old fuckhead kills little girl, he's evil too


They're both evil, nuff said. Chill out and :gethigh: ...


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: CrossingTheStar]
    #15790407 - 02/10/12 11:57 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Guys, chill the fuck out.

15 year old bitch kills 9 year old girl, she's evil
12 year old fuckhead kills little girl, he's evil too


They're both evil, nuff said. Chill out and :gethigh: ...




yes, they're both crazy. I am super chill and I don't see the point of your post.

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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Anthony]
    #15790582 - 02/11/12 12:52 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

she should just be gang raped by the judicial system, she'll enjoy it.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
    #15790672 - 02/11/12 01:14 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Aser said:
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B0b0 said:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/03/09/national/main277536.shtml




:awedisgust: Can you do that to a 12yo? life without parole for a playing accident?




His lawyer and mother failed him. The article says they were given a plea bargain that would give him 3 years in juvy and 1 year of house arrest.

But, they declined it.





Ack :sad:


12yo black kid gets carried away playing and accidentally kills.. life without parole.

18yo white girl kills in cold blood with zero remorse and gets life WITH parole.


Just saying :thumbdown:




initially, it sounds like a fucked situation.

however, the girl had injuries which were described as being parallel to the ones you'd recieve falling off a 3-story building. as a youth i'd play fight and beat up on my sister all the time, but never lacerated her live or caused severe brain injuries.

secondly, his conviction was overturned, he was granted the original plea deal of ten years probation. he violated it by being caught with a 4-inch knife thus being put on a 'zero tolerance' policy wherein he'd face thirty years in prison if he fucked up again.

fast forward and he's eighteen, he robs a dominos delivery driver with a gun for 50 bucks in pizzas and receives a thirty year sentence.

did that violent behavior stem from his time or prison or something innate? one may never know, but he was given a second opportunity at life and showed he has remarkably violent tendencies.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Deltron3030]
    #15791710 - 02/11/12 10:11 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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initially, it sounds like a fucked situation.




The more you describe it, the more fucked up it becomes :aweman:

I just feel something is very wrong when you convict a 12yo to life without parole. Thats locking a child, who's brain has nowhere near developed, up and throwing away the key.

Guess what, get them a few years younger and they are all sociopaths. 12 yo is too young to give up on someone for life. Most of us bear little resemblance to how they were at 12. Some shoplifted, stole from their mom, shot at the neighbors cat with a bb gun and other criminal psycho behaviors that have completely disappeared and years after the fact been replaced by ironclad remorse. But hey, you were a kid then right?

Not when you get life with no parole. Parole is to let the years pass, let development do its thing and then carefully reassess whether someone is a danger to society anymore.

By official psychiatric definition you can't assess whether someone is a psycho until they are adults because many people do very wild things when they are a kid.

A 12yo going berserk and beating an infant to a pulp is something that, though rare and very regrettable, can happen. It does not mean that someone is a psycho.

We see this horrid crime and many shout: "he should be on trial as an adult!". But the severity of the crime doesnt make him a day older than 12 years of age, developmentally. Its still a young teen, the develpmental equivalent of a seriously mentally handicapped adult. At 12 you are NOT fully accountable for your actions, end of story. Brain centers of the very traits that make us human are undeveloped little pinpoints - its absent, just as with an adult with brain damage.

Should he be kept from those acts by putting him away someplace secure? Sweet Jesus you bet your ass yes! Thats very clear because in his development, this happened. This should be given the years to correct itself and if it doesnt he should never be free. So an indefinite sentence yes, but not without periodic reassessment of the actual situation.

Giving life imprisonment without parole is a specific American activity thats considered a human rights violation in most parts of the world, thats closely monitored by human rights organizations. Most of the so called "rogue nations" you police don't even do that, let alone much of the civilized world.

My crime, for which DieCommie has crucified me with an ad hominem attack, is pointing out the racial angle of this. Yes, just like blacks in the US are overrepresented on death row, in life imprisonment (more so percentually than Apartheid South Africa) and other parts of the criminal justice system, I strongly feel that if you're black you are more likely to be put on child life imprisonment without parole.

Blacks in your country are commonly perceived more as a burden to society than as actual part of the fabric of society. A white child is more readily perceived as having developmental problems, a black child more as a potential criminal in the making.

This will of course be ripped apart by conservatives who will argue that inequality ended with the emancipation proclamation, but I just don't subscribe to that point of view.

I think that that amounts to a lack of trust in your criminal justice system and not anti-white racism (justice isnt white after all is it?) and I don't think me pointing it out makes me a race baiter.


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    #15791862 - 02/11/12 11:21 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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    #15791993 - 02/11/12 12:02 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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initially, it sounds like a fucked situation.




The more you describe it, the more fucked up it becomes :aweman:

I just feel something is very wrong when you convict a 12yo to life without parole. Thats locking a child, who's brain has nowhere near developed, up and throwing away the key.

Guess what, get them a few years younger and they are all sociopaths. 12 yo is too young to give up on someone for life. Most of us bear little resemblance to how they were at 12. Some shoplifted, stole from their mom, shot at the neighbors cat with a bb gun and other criminal psycho behaviors that have completely disappeared and years after the fact been replaced by ironclad remorse..





I'm gonna have to plead the fifth on this one.


The system is racist as fuck tho, that shouldnt even be a debate.


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    #15791998 - 02/11/12 12:03 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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A 12yo going berserk and beating an infant to a pulp is something that, though rare and very regrettable, can happen. It does not mean that someone is a psycho.




when an animal has rabies we put the animal down, you can tell when
they're rabies because their behavior is way off from normal, for instance
a fox laying next to the chickens but isnt eating the chickens and when
approached it doesnt run away but instead tries to attack

sure the kid wasnt rabid but what he did certainly shows that he doesnt
belong in society. by 12 years old a child should know the difference
between right and wrong. the vast majority know it's wrong to hit a child
much smaller than them, they know bullying is wrong and yet some kids do
it anyway. do those kids deserve life in prison? no, but then most bullies
have a stopping point. something this kid obviously didnt. are we to
believe that this kid's mother, a state cop didnt teach this child not to
be a bully? surely she did but let's assume for a minute that he never
learned, was there any compassion shown for the victim when the kid was
crying, unconscious, bleeding or having bones broken. no, not one bit of
concern until AFTER the little girl was dead. this shows me that he's not
suitable for society, that he's become a menace and as his days on
probation have shown, he certainly didnt improve his behavior


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We see this horrid crime and many shout: "he should be on trial as an adult!". But the severity of the crime doesnt make him a day older than 12 years of age, developmentally. Its still a young teen, the develpmental equivalent of a seriously mentally handicapped adult.
At 12 you are NOT fully accountable for your actions, end of story.




so at 12 years old did you know that stabbing someone in the chest with a
knife or bludgeoning them with a club could result in serious injury or
death? I certainly did, maybe his mother never taught him these things but
surely the TV couldnt have been his only source of morality teachings.


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Giving life imprisonment without parole is a specific American activity thats considered a human rights violation in most parts of the world, thats closely monitored by human rights organizations. Most of the so called "rogue nations" you police don't even do that, let alone much of the civilized world.




I agree, it is inhumane to lock someone away for life without parole. it
really punishes the tax payers because we have to spend hundreds of
thousands per year to maintain a pile of shit in the penal system. we feed
them, house them, clothe them, we give them cable TV and recreational
time, they have store visits where they can buy goodies that make life
comfortable, they have access to drugs and alcohol and they can have sex
with anyone they want as long as they're either strong enough to take it
or willing to give it up to whomever asks. so really, why should we in the
US be forced to pay for this life of luxury instead of just dropping them
into a hole in the ground

where we the human rights that should have been afforded to a little girl
that was tortured to death, where was her chance for an appeal, why
couldnt she have someone give her sentence shorter than eternity so that
she could grow up to make a few mistakes in her life and what of he
parents who were deprived of the love of their child, who found out that
this accidental death was certainly no accident because an accident doesnt
happen brutally and continuously over the course of 45 minutes

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My crime, for which DieCommie has crucified me with an ad hominem attack, is pointing out the racial angle of this. Yes, just like blacks in the US are overrepresented on death row, in life imprisonment (more so percentually than Apartheid South Africa) and other parts of the criminal justice system, I strongly feel that if you're black you are more likely to be put on child life imprisonment without parole.




or it's the florida penal system in which anyone convicted of the brutal
murder of a child is given life without parole. could it be that blacks
commit a disproportionate amount of crime in the US and this is why we see
so many in prisons? when a liquor store is robbed the cashier simply gives
a description of the robber, do you believe the liquor store employee had

a racial motivation to have some random black man arrested when a white or
hispanic committed the crime? do you think the cops investigate a murder
and then ignore the real culprit and go to find a black man to frame for
the murder? in the case of casey anthony they sought the death penalty,
something they couldnt do with a 12yo regardless of hi skin color

Florida certainly shows your statement to be false, nearly double the
number of whites on death row as are blacks, could it be tht florida
doesnt want to be accused of racism or that florida doesnt give a fuck
what color you are
http://www.dc.state.fl.us/activeinmates/deathrowroster.asp

seems the US statistics of death row inmates/executions also disagrees
with your conclusion, even when shown by state whites on death row
outnumber the blacks and hispanics in most states
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/race-death-row-inmates-executed-1976


what we have in the US is more black inmates, the major reason is
recidivism, the same reason the number of blacks serving life sentences
is increasing, 3 criminal convictions and you serve life. generally after
the 3rd it's pointless to continue releasing you to commit more crimes and
more heinous crimes. if you havent learned a lesson after your 2nd
conviction why should there be any more chances


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Blacks in your country are commonly perceived more as a burden to society than as actual part of the fabric of society.





now why would that be? could it be that the urban black culture in the US
has decided the white man is keeping them down, that they're entitled to
government aid, 40 acres and a mule, that 'slangin'' drugs on the street
corners and trying to live a gangsta rap lifestyle is the right life decision?
it's what I have seen in my life

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This will of course be ripped apart by conservatives who will argue that inequality ended with the emancipation proclamation, but I just don't subscribe to that point of view.





you dont think the actual statistics can stand on their own? I also dont
subscribe to that POV but facts are facts and more whites are executed in
the US than blacks, more blacks are receiving life sentences because fewer
blacks stop their criminal activity after their first or second conviction

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I think that that amounts to a lack of trust in your criminal justice system and not anti-white racism (justice isnt white after all is it?) and I don't think me pointing it out makes me a race baiter.




I think it amounts to race baiting, not that you are necessarily a race
baiter but you've bought into the bullshit that they spread such as the
'black on black' violence 'epidemic', FBI statistics show that it's only
marginally higher than white on white or hispanic on hispanic violence yet
the race baiters would have you believe that the entire black populace is
killing each other off and those that do survive the black on black purge
with then be exterminated by people in bed sheets

the majority of statistics you're getting regarding crime and punishment
in the US is incomplete, I've said it here hundreds of times, the prison
inmate statistics count each inmate as a first time incarceration. the
drug laws dont target blacks, they target people, blacks tend to be more
high profile with their dealings. rap music glorifies the dealing and the
violence and what kid doesnt want to grow up to be like their hero



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    #15792005 - 02/11/12 12:05 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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    #15792006 - 02/11/12 12:06 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Hologram said:
The system is racist as fuck tho, that shouldnt even be a debate.




Racist against whites if you use the evidence presented in this thread (and the race baiting attitude the shroomery loves so much).


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    #15792010 - 02/11/12 12:06 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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The system is racist as fuck tho, that shouldnt even be a debate.




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    #15792018 - 02/11/12 12:08 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Well i was thinking more along the lines of incareation rates among blacks vs whites as well as the disproportionate amount of time given for marijuana offenses.


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    #15792019 - 02/11/12 12:09 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

Hologram said:
The system is racist as fuck tho, that shouldnt even be a debate.




that statement is outright race baiter bullshit



This statement is outright bullshit.


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    #15792031 - 02/11/12 12:14 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Well i was thinking more along the lines of incareation rates among blacks vs whites as well as the disproportionate amount of time given for marijuana offenses.





how many white drug dealers do you see selling weed on the streets, now
compare that to the number of blacks doing the same? cops cant just walk into
your house because they think you're selling drugs but they cant roust you on
the streets and 'discover' what's in your pocket. if the black man puts a
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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Hologram]
    #15792038 - 02/11/12 12:16 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Hologram said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Hologram said:
The system is racist as fuck tho, that shouldnt even be a debate.




that statement is outright race baiter bullshit



This statement is outright bullshit.





prove your claim, show us the incarceration rates of the various races that
include recidivism and multiple offenses such as possession of a firearm and
selling drugs. did the cops make the drug dealer sell drugs while on parole
or carry a gun while dealing and on parole?

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    #15792042 - 02/11/12 12:18 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Ok.

"i wasnt baiting you."


^Thats about all the proof i have.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Hologram]
    #15792046 - 02/11/12 12:19 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

so in fact your statement was race baiting bullshit, you just werent baiting me


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    #15792049 - 02/11/12 12:21 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

Hologram said:
Well i was thinking more along the lines of incareation rates among blacks vs whites as well as the disproportionate amount of time given for marijuana offenses.





how many white drug dealers do you see selling weed on the streets, now
compare that to the number of blacks doing the same? cops cant just walk into
your house because they think you're selling drugs but they cant roust you on
the streets and 'discover' what's in your pocket. if the black man puts a
target on his back by walking up to and poking his head into 30 cars in an
hour the cops are going to target him. this is something that whites tend not
to do. in fact I've never seen a white dealer act so brazenly with a product
that sells it's self.



You're funny.


whats your point exactly?  that you havent observed enough drug dealers?


Do you EVER go out and observe drug dealers?

is this all hypothetical nonsense?

i think so.

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Prisoner#1 said:
so in fact your statement was race baiting bullshit, you just werent baiting me



Doesnt the "werent bating" part mean that it wasnt baiting?


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Hologram]
    #15792053 - 02/11/12 12:22 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Kind of like when somebody says 'no offense but...' and then proceeds to spew offense.


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    #15792073 - 02/11/12 12:29 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Thats how you interpreted it.


I wasnt baiting. 

when i said "shouldnt even be a debate", you should assume that i am not going to debate this issue since i already feel strongly in my position with no desire to convince anyone of believing the same thing.

Therefore i wasnt baiting anyone because i dont actually want to debate what i feel is an obvious truth.

:cookiemonster:


my non-bait has been bitten anyways tho and im already debating this shit more than i intended.



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    #15792099 - 02/11/12 12:38 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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    #15792123 - 02/11/12 12:45 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Did you know that black dealers are wreckless and white dealers are never wreckless and that since i observed this in one city, it must be the norm all over the country?




:durrhurr:


Our cops arent racist, blacks are just stupid dealers who put targets on thier backs. The target cant possibly be the color of their skin but rather their own stupidity.

I know because ive looked out my window a few times and never saw a white guy selling weed in the open but only blacks because they are stupid and obvious. This isnt racist, its a fact based on my extensive studies.




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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Hologram]
    #15792178 - 02/11/12 01:07 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Hologram said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Hologram said:
Well i was thinking more along the lines of incareation rates among blacks vs whites as well as the disproportionate amount of time given for marijuana offenses.





how many white drug dealers do you see selling weed on the streets, now
compare that to the number of blacks doing the same? cops cant just walk into
your house because they think you're selling drugs but they cant roust you on
the streets and 'discover' what's in your pocket. if the black man puts a
target on his back by walking up to and poking his head into 30 cars in an
hour the cops are going to target him. this is something that whites tend not
to do. in fact I've never seen a white dealer act so brazenly with a product
that sells it's self.



You're funny.

whats your point exactly?  that you havent observed enough drug dealers?

Do you EVER go out and observe drug dealers?

is this all hypothetical nonsense?

i think so.





maybe you should think outside of your suburban middle class world then, I grew up in the ghetto, when I got out of the army I lived in the ghetto, I've seen the boys on the streets sticking their heads in cars selling everything from crack to oatmeal in little manilla envelopes and maybe one in one thousand were white. do you have any evidence to refute it?

care to show us how many white dealers are out there selling drugs like that?




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Quote:

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so in fact your statement was race baiting bullshit, you just werent baiting me



Doesnt the "werent bating" part mean that it wasnt baiting?







isnt spreading the shit the same as what the race baiters do? that would
make you a race baiter, as I said, show me the statistics that prove the
system is racist, those statistics should include recidivism


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Hologram]
    #15792191 - 02/11/12 01:10 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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i dont actually want to debate what i feel is an obvious truth.





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    #15792208 - 02/11/12 01:15 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

"i grew up in a ghetto","you from the suburbs"

"show me some whites doing it then.."


^ :rofl:

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I've seen the boys on the streets sticking their heads in cars selling everything from crack to oatmeal in little manilla envelopes and maybe one in one thousand were white. do you have any evidence to refute it?




No pris, i have no evidence to refute something you experienced earlier in your life.


ITs ok to be racist, just admit it.


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    #15792216 - 02/11/12 01:19 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

Hologram said:
i dont actually want to debate what i feel is an obvious truth.





ok, so keep making hollow claims as you always do, rely on your faith of
racism regardless of how wrong it is. the only way to fight racism is to
contest it, to shut it down where it starts and obviously it starts with you





You wanna see a hollow claim then look at my sig.
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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #15792242 - 02/11/12 01:31 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

You may think you are the only one who grew up in poverty but you aren't.


You may think that your baseless opinions are more valid than others, but they arent.


You may think that a single isolated incident you experienced is enough to make broad statements about the behavior of "blacks", but its not.




I think you are racist, and you cant change that by making sweeping statements about an entire raced based on what you saw in the hood.

i've been to ghettos and suburbs all over the world so that whole "i been to the hood" shit isnt gonna work on me. So have i and ive bought heroin off a white boy with gold teeth out in the open. (this was not an isolated incident by the way and almost all of my dealers are white and live in predominately black neighborhoods)
I must have been hallucinating tho since, "whites dont do that".


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Hologram]
    #15792292 - 02/11/12 01:45 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Interesting thing I heard once.

Crack cocaine has harsher penalties because it is typically sold on the streets.

Crack cocaine laws seem targeted at blacks but that is only because they typically sell their crack on the street instead of in their homes.

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    #15792303 - 02/11/12 01:48 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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No pris, i have no evidence to refute something you experienced earlier in your life.


ITs ok to be racist, just admit it.




you have no evidence to refute anything I've said, you've made it abundantly
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    #15792321 - 02/11/12 01:52 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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i've been to ghettos and suburbs all over the world so that whole "i been to the hood" shit isnt gonna work on me. So have i and ive bought heroin off a white boy with gold teeth out in the open. (this was not an isolated incident by the way and almost all of my dealers are white and live in predominately black neighborhoods)
I must have been hallucinating tho since, "whites dont do that".





where did I say 'whites dont do that', I recall saying 'typically dont' and I
recall saying '1 in 1000' and gee willikers, you've bought heroin from a
white guy with gold teeth on the street in a predominantly black neighborhood

so what were the remaining street dealers in that area? were they all whites?


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    #15792327 - 02/11/12 01:53 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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so in fact your statement was race baiting bullshit, you just werent baiting me





White may be 2:1 but are they also 2:1 in the state's population, and whats the statistics for people who have the potential to face death but get life as far as race goes?


Then again 54% of crack offenders are white and 33% are black, but since there are more white offenders than black then it's not racist system too right?


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    #15792339 - 02/11/12 01:56 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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so in fact your statement was race baiting bullshit, you just werent baiting me





White may be 2:1 but are they also 2:1 in the state's population, and whats the statistics for people who have the potential to face death but get life as far as race goes?


Then again 54% of crack offenders are white and 33% are black, but since there are more white offenders than black then it's not racist system too right?




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    #15792387 - 02/11/12 02:11 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

Hologram said:
i've been to ghettos and suburbs all over the world so that whole "i been to the hood" shit isnt gonna work on me. So have i and ive bought heroin off a white boy with gold teeth out in the open. (this was not an isolated incident by the way and almost all of my dealers are white and live in predominately black neighborhoods)
I must have been hallucinating tho since, "whites dont do that".





where did I say 'whites dont do that', I recall saying 'typically dont'







Yea and thats still a silly opinion that cant be proven. You backed this ridiculous statement up with observations that you made in one particular area. ITs just your opinion and i disagree and think you are racist.

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Quote:

Hologram said:
No pris, i have no evidence to refute something you experienced earlier in your life.


ITs ok to be racist, just admit it.




you have no evidence to refute anything I've said,





  you asked me to refute something you observed earlier in your lifetime, which would be impossible. 

Im sure you saw black guys deal wrecklessly, that doesnt mean its the norm.

I still think you and your ridiculous statements are racist.


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    #15792397 - 02/11/12 02:14 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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so what were the remaining street dealers in that area? were they all whites?



Yes.

the only black people i saw were close to their houses or inside and looking very paranoid.


THe white dudes, on the other hand, were posted up and selling on the streets.

White prostitutes were usually the middle person id go through if i wanted to buy off the blacks who seemed to operate alot less carelessly and not at all in the open.(in fact i never saw the transaction go down with my black dealers from that area)


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    #15792423 - 02/11/12 02:20 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Hologram said:
  you asked me to refute something you observed earlier in your lifetime, which would be impossible. 




incorrect, I asked you to refute my claim by showing the statistics that would prove me wrong since your claim is that the system is 'racist'

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Hologram said:
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The system is racist as fuck tho, that shouldnt even be a debate.




that statement is outright race baiter bullshit



This statement is outright bullshit.





prove your claim, show us the incarceration rates of the various races that
include recidivism and multiple offenses such as possession of a firearm and
selling drugs. did the cops make the drug dealer sell drugs while on parole
or carry a gun while dealing and on parole?

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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Hologram]
    #15792435 - 02/11/12 02:23 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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so what were the remaining street dealers in that area? were they all whites?



Yes.

the only black people i saw were close to their houses or inside and looking very paranoid.




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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #15792444 - 02/11/12 02:24 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Pris when was the last time you smoked marijuana?


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    #15792447 - 02/11/12 02:24 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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I've seen the boys on the streets sticking their heads in cars selling everything from crack to oatmeal in little manilla envelopes and maybe one in one thousand were white. do you have any evidence to refute it?




.





THere is no point to me engaging in this conversation if you are going to LIE, pris.


Are you seriously denying that what you asked me to refute was your personal experience?


there is the quote right there.

Now if you want to change what you are asking me to refute that is fine.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #15792489 - 02/11/12 02:33 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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so what were the remaining street dealers in that area? were they all whites?



Yes.

the only black people i saw were close to their houses or inside and looking very paranoid.




now all you need to do is prove it





No i dont.


Just like you dont have to prove your racist opinions on the behavioral differences between blacks and whites.

they're just opinions


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #15792534 - 02/11/12 02:42 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)


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Hologram said:
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Hologram said:
The system is racist as fuck tho, that shouldnt even be a debate.




that statement is outright race baiter bullshit



This statement is outright bullshit.





prove your claim, show us the incarceration rates of the various races that
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    #15792555 - 02/11/12 02:46 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Hologram said:
  you asked me to refute something you observed earlier in your lifetime, which would be impossible. 




incorrect, I asked you to refute my claim by showing the statistics that would prove me wrong since your claim is that the system is 'racist'







Quote:

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I've seen the boys on the streets sticking their heads in cars selling everything from crack to oatmeal in little manilla envelopes and maybe one in one thousand were white. do you have any evidence to refute it?




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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Hologram]
    #15792570 - 02/11/12 02:50 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Your quote and the one i posted are two different things.

your quote that you posted doesnt make this one below, any less of a lie.

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Hologram said:
  you asked me to refute something you observed earlier in your lifetime, which would be impossible. 




incorrect, I asked you to refute my claim by showing the statistics that would prove me wrong since your claim is that the system is 'racist'











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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Hologram]
    #15792646 - 02/11/12 03:09 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

I have bought dope all over chicago, milwaukee, and madison and everytime it was a black person except the few times I bought some from some puerto ricans in chicago. It is very normal for them to run out in the street and say "Rocks or Blows" when they see you nod at them or circle the block more than once. That is pretty reckless behavior if you ask me :shrug: If you see a white person the places I go it's most likely cause they are there to buy dope as well. Also I was arrested last summer in Chicago for suspicion of drug activity because I was white and out of place in a high drug trafficking area. One of the cops was white and the other was hispanic.


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: The Influence]
    #15792662 - 02/11/12 03:14 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

my little brother got the same charge for the same reason, difference being
that he knocked on the guy's door, they searched him and his truck and found
nothing that would even remotely suggest he was there to buy drugs including
only having $8 in his pocket

kinda crazy though how in holograms predominantly black neighborhood all the
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    #15792669 - 02/11/12 03:16 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Yea some of the "whites" may have been puerto rican and some pick up spots are definately almost all black but im just saying it isnt that way everywhere.

ESPECIALLY not with weed which i believe was the drug pris mentioned. In that case(weed) i've seen alot of white street dealers.


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    #15792675 - 02/11/12 03:18 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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my little brother got the same charge for the same reason, difference being
that he knocked on the guy's door, they searched him and his truck and found
nothing that would even remotely suggest he was there to buy drugs including
only having $8 in his pocket

kinda crazy though how in holograms predominantly black neighborhood all the
drug dealers are white with gold teeth and the black people are shut ins that
are terrified of the whites




So now its all dealers?

what happened to "Street".

this is why i would never bother trying to prove anything for you. You are gonna take what you want and interpret however you want anyway.


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    #15792679 - 02/11/12 03:18 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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definately almost all black






sorry, what was that again?


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    #15792693 - 02/11/12 03:21 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

It was bigfoot and he said hes fresh outta oats. only got raisins for the twenty.


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    #15792703 - 02/11/12 03:22 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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It was bigfoot and he said hes fresh outta oats. only got raisins for the twenty.





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    #15792707 - 02/11/12 03:23 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Only when he smiles, and its an "off" white.


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    #15792843 - 02/11/12 03:52 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)



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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #15792943 - 02/11/12 04:19 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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my little brother got the same charge for the same reason, difference being
that he knocked on the guy's door, they searched him and his truck and found
nothing that would even remotely suggest he was there to buy drugs including
only having $8 in his pocket

kinda crazy though how in holograms predominantly black neighborhood all the
drug dealers are white with gold teeth and the black people are shut ins that
are terrified of the whites




eh, while you probably are right i wouldn't make too broad of generalizations.

i remember i used to have a schwag/coke guy. he was black, knew him for about three years and i doubt he even knew my name. saw him at least twice a week and he fit the description of a 'paranoid shut-in.'

usually protocol was to pull up, let him jump in my car, then circle the block a couple times before dropping him off. dude was ghetto as fuck but seemed real professional and was all bussiness. on the other hand i've had white guys where i'd look at that them for being retarded for their cavalier attitude in public.

having your wits about you isn't a black or white thing. there's guys who can do it smart and others who do it sketchy. i'd just suppose in poorer neighborhoods you'll encounter more who do it in a reckless manner.


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    #15793104 - 02/11/12 04:59 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

I think life is a horrible thing to do to people. Most people who go to prison can't cope in the outside world even if they are a changed (reformed) person. Most end up back in prison,some on even worse charges how could they expect a child to spend their whole life growing up in a prison and to come out a better person. They are going to end up worse than the adults that go in there.
This girl obviously has a couple of issues what they have to find out is if she was born like this or was it from environmental factors like maybe she was raped and beaten all her life. BUT you cant just leave her in society maybe with people that are obviously psychotic they should be "put down" why pay for them to live in a prison there whole life we can't keep a dog caged but a person is OK?


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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: closet hippie]
    #15793171 - 02/11/12 05:14 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

kids and drug users tend to be the largest demographic of reoffenders, most
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    #15793342 - 02/11/12 06:03 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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kids and drug users tend to be the largest demographic of reoffenders, most
people (70%) released from prison end up back in within three years



I shaved two years off my 4 year prison sentence by completing a prison bootcamp program that boasted an 85% percent success rate (people that don't return) well either they were lying or my squad was an oddity cause the majority of them are back in prison right now.


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    #15793378 - 02/11/12 06:12 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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    #15793493 - 02/11/12 06:35 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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I hope you're part of the 30% that doesnt end up back in



Thanks man, me too. I was worried for a little bit but since having my daughter and getting tied down...err engaged I don't do much besides work and come home.


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    #15793506 - 02/11/12 06:38 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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    #15793539 - 02/11/12 06:42 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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staying home is how I stay out of trouble



right.  you should wear a bright orange shirt that reads-"HERE COMES TROUBLE!" in black letters.





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    #15793613 - 02/11/12 06:56 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

lol when I first started getting locked up I always wanted to steal a jump suit, now at the ripe age of 25 I look back and think wtf was I thinking?


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you might be able to buy one from a jail, i think it would be funny to wear on halloween.


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    #15793756 - 02/11/12 07:30 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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you might be able to buy one from a jail, i think it would be funny to wear on halloween.



Maybe somewhere not round here though. Someone asked and they said it's would be a hastle if someone seen you and called you in so they won't. I did steal the scrubs from when my daughter was born so I could always pretend to be an E.R. doctor :awesomenod: But damn man thats the kind of thinking that used to always lead to my incarceration, and peoples organs getting swapped.


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    #15796186 - 02/12/12 06:10 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Mad?



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    #15796244 - 02/12/12 06:58 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Honestly most bad drug dealers I have met have been white.  A lot of the black ones had complicated techniques. Like runners and shit. Most of them seem way more cautious than us white folks. And yes, I have also had my share of stupid black folk drug dealers too. But like Pris's opinion it is extremely personal. he just seems to think his belief is ubiquitous with the whole of the US. Just cause the blacks in your hood were shitty doesnt mean they all are.

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    #15796267 - 02/12/12 07:21 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

i would never fuck a black man. does that make me racist?


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    #15796270 - 02/12/12 07:23 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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    #15796381 - 02/12/12 08:38 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Acidic_Sloth said:
i would never fuck a black man. does that make me racist?




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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Hakim0777]
    #15796396 - 02/12/12 08:45 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Hakim0777 said:
Honestly most bad drug dealers I have met have been white.  A lot of the black ones had complicated techniques. Like runners and shit. Most of them seem way more cautious than us white folks. And yes, I have also had my share of stupid black folk drug dealers too. But like Pris's opinion it is extremely personal. he just seems to think his belief is ubiquitous with the whole of the US. Just cause the blacks in your hood were shitty doesnt mean they all are.

Pris is racist, but so are all of us. Everyone is racist. :smile:





we weren't talking about bad drug dealers, we were talking about who deals
where, as in how many black dealers do you see dealing on the street as
opposed to the white drug dealers


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rule, there are 44 words in the english language that follow the rule. this is
the shit our education funding is paying for and these liberals want more money
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Re: Teenage murderer, "it was ahmazing..." [Re: Prisoner#1] * 2
    #15800594 - 02/13/12 12:34 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
or it's the florida penal system in which anyone convicted of the brutal
murder of a child is given life without parole. could it be that blacks
commit a disproportionate amount of crime in the US and this is why we see
so many in prisons? when a liquor store is robbed the cashier simply gives
a description of the robber, do you believe the liquor store employee had

a racial motivation to have some random black man arrested when a white or
hispanic committed the crime? do you think the cops investigate a murder