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 Re: Hallucinogens episode of Drugs Inc. on Nat Geo  [Re: underfliptown]
#15675107 - 01/16/12 09:09 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Nope, not yet. The only ones I have come across have been fakes. What a bummer, even though the series as a whole has sucked I really want to see this.
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Re: Hallucinogens episode of Drugs Inc. on Nat Geo [Re: love2shpongleIRL]
#15675177 - 01/16/12 09:28 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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8 pm Western mountain time!!!
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Re: Hallucinogens episode of Drugs Inc. on Nat Geo [Re: Learyfan] 1
#15675201 - 01/16/12 09:34 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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There was certainly some bullshit, like the prick DEA agent who accidentally ingested LSD during a acid lab dismantling, who said that the nurse at the hospital told him that had he not taken Valium, he would have died? WTF. Really? There's no way that really happened unless the nurse didn't know what she was talking about either. The DEA agent probably knows its bullshit, but had to throw some lies into his story, since it's what they do. They don't know anything else.
I can only see this being true if he ingested truly massive amounts and was seizing up outta control.
Either way, prick shoulda minded his own business in the first place. 
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Re: Hallucinogens episode of Drugs Inc. on Nat Geo [Re: BlindSophist]
#15675265 - 01/16/12 09:54 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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the dea agents story was fishy as hell, but otherwise, the show seemed on point, nat geo researches any stats or figures they put into the show, but they cant really do anything about a bullshit story someone tells like that except edit it down/out.
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Re: Hallucinogens episode of Drugs Inc. on Nat Geo [Re: Learyfan] 1
#15677709 - 01/17/12 01:50 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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I want one of those bottles! (signed  )
I thought the program was not that great. It had some nice points, but they made sure to include horror stories in every segment...
The interesting thing, for me at least was the blotter that they used in the DEA agent sequence. Because they did not mention this, but the 1988 bust was one of Pickard's labs and it was releasing LSD with that EXACT print, which has not been reproduced exactly. There are reprints of that blotter sold as blotter art, but they are a totally different size. I was REALLY impressed that they used that exact blotter. I was wondering if they knew it was related to that bust, and if maybe they actually got the video from the DEA or something...
This is the real original blotter, correct size that was on the program
And here are the reprints
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I watched the show...man it pissed me off. Referred to Ayahuasca as a "narcotic", made it out to be all kinds of dangerous. Same treatment with LSD, still demonizing it and this show was just another in a long line of misinformation, scare tactic and propaganda. Sure glad my wife didn't see it, as SOME DAY I'd like her to perhaps try some changa.
The asshole with the cluster headaches is going about "self-medicating" with mushrooms all wrong. He is taking enough to trip uncomfortably every two months. He should be sub-clinically dosing / micro dosing himself by taking ONE or TWO of his capsules three times a week. He won't trip, will have minimal to NO nausea, and no headaches. That man is ill-informed because his own doctors have no clue and he has no good resource or hasn't bothered to discover for himself a better way.
Overall, I grimaced throughout the whole show...it made me really angry that the producers once again failed to present an UNBIASED well informed and accurate depiction of the risks/benefits of the psychedelics they featured.
N.B.
Awesome post and it reminded me of the same thought sequence all the way around, especially for the micro-dosing the mushrooms for cluster headaches - that info needs to be more readily available!
Edited by dwpineal (01/17/12 02:08 PM)
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Re: Hallucinogens episode of Drugs Inc. on Nat Geo [Re: Nature Boy] 1
#15678761 - 01/17/12 05:39 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Glad you brought that up. I have a cousin who uses psilocybin for her cluster headaches. She takes really really low doses three times a week. If she gets worried that she feels an attack coming on she will double her dose - still not enough to trip.
She says its like her life before psilocybin was like a car engine without oil. One she lubricated her brain with psilocybin she was good to go. Been three years and she only had one attack - and thats because she was on vacation and was worried about flying with her capsules....
I am curious how the guy growing them is doing with the police....its not like they tried to hide his identity....
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Re: Hallucinogens episode of Drugs Inc. on Nat Geo [Re: Dreamster1]
#15678770 - 01/17/12 05:41 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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I am curious how the guy growing them is doing with the police....its not like they tried to hide his identity....
The police respect him?
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Re: Hallucinogens episode of Drugs Inc. on Nat Geo [Re: 240779] 1
#15678792 - 01/17/12 05:45 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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hope so.... but its the police they dont respect anyone
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Re: Hallucinogens episode of Drugs Inc. on Nat Geo [Re: Dreamster1] 1
#15678807 - 01/17/12 05:48 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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hope so.... but its the police they dont respect anyone
ya I was thinking the same thing. Like...the put a pic of his face on TV, then show him exposing his mushroom grow? seems pretty fuckin retarded
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Re: Hallucinogens episode of Drugs Inc. on Nat Geo [Re: Learyfan]
#15678944 - 01/17/12 06:14 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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I'm really disappointed in the Internet for not having a pirate of this available to us yet.
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Re: Hallucinogens episode of Drugs Inc. on Nat Geo [Re: dwpineal]
#15679185 - 01/17/12 06:53 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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dwpineal said:
The interesting thing, for me at least was the blotter that they used in the DEA agent sequence. Because they did not mention this, but the 1988 bust was one of Pickard's labs and it was releasing LSD with that EXACT print, which has not been reproduced exactly. There are reprints of that blotter sold as blotter art, but they are a totally different size. I was REALLY impressed that they used that exact blotter. I was wondering if they knew it was related to that bust, and if maybe they actually got the video from the DEA or something...
Yeah! I was wondering if they were talking about the first Pickard bust, since they said it happened in 1988. Only I don't know much about that one. I don't know how much he was busted with and what product he was putting out. How did you know he was using the Dead album cover blotter?
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love2shpongleIRL
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Re: Hallucinogens episode of Drugs Inc. on Nat Geo [Re: Learyfan]
#15679227 - 01/17/12 07:00 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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And wasn't the guy that worked with Pickard known for setting booby traps and would dose people at random? At least that's what I recall reading.
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Re: Hallucinogens episode of Drugs Inc. on Nat Geo [Re: Learyfan] 1
#15680689 - 01/17/12 11:28 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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I can't provide you with a source for that info Learyfan, I don't think that is floating around the net, but I am not sure...but trust me, to the best of my knowledge it is correct info.
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Re: Hallucinogens episode of Drugs Inc. on Nat Geo [Re: dwpineal]
#15680702 - 01/17/12 11:30 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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that girl from neurosoup stayed with this guy who was a complete psycho, he dosed people maliciously and had his own little world. i watched a documentary about it... wish i remembered more details. anybody know what i'm talking about?
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Re: Hallucinogens episode of Drugs Inc. on Nat Geo [Re: NWlight] 2
#15680720 - 01/17/12 11:32 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Getting High on Krystle is the name of that documentary. I actually felt like I lost IQ points watching it though...
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Re: Hallucinogens episode of Drugs Inc. on Nat Geo [Re: NWlight]
#15680723 - 01/17/12 11:33 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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that girl from neurosoup stayed with this guy who was a complete psycho, he dosed people maliciously and had his own little world. i watched a documentary about it... wish i remembered more details. anybody know what i'm talking about?
This what your talking about hommie?
http://www.vice.com/hamiltons-pharmacopeia/getting-high-on-krystle
Hamiltons pharmacopia is the best!
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Re: Hallucinogens episode of Drugs Inc. on Nat Geo [Re: underfliptown] 1
#15680737 - 01/17/12 11:34 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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It's weird, shes not even that hot at all but for some reason her sex appeal is a 10.
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Re: Hallucinogens episode of Drugs Inc. on Nat Geo [Re: underfliptown]
#15680746 - 01/17/12 11:35 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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that's the one!
I feel like Krystle did that documentary rather reluctantly.
Also the narrator/cameraman seemed like he had a weird obsession with her and asked really dumb questions.
"so when he gave you the drugs you like, got high and stuff? niceeeeee"
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Re: Hallucinogens episode of Drugs Inc. on Nat Geo [Re: NWlight]
#15680762 - 01/17/12 11:38 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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NWlight said:
that's the one!
I feel like Krystle did that documentary rather reluctantly.
Also the narrator/cameraman seemed like he had a weird obsession with her and asked really dumb questions.
"so when he gave you the drugs you like, got high and stuff? niceeeeee"
He does a buncha other cool shows. Shit on scopolamine, sapo, hatian zombies, and another favorite of mine: An interview with alexander (sasha) shulgin (here it is: UNDER)
http://www.vice.com/hamiltons-pharmacopeia/sihkal-shulgins-i-have-known-and-loved
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Re: Hallucinogens episode of Drugs Inc. on Nat Geo [Re: underfliptown]
#15680797 - 01/17/12 11:44 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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I saw the premiere and immidiently thought of starting a thread on the shroomery for it, as soon as it was over. DEA agent says he ingested 1000's of doses of LSD through shaving nicks? I mean, LSD and shrooms give you a little mental stress, but you're not going to permanently be "one step above a vegetable".
Also, the shroom/clusterfuckheadache guy was odd... the mushrooms that he was growing kind of looked like amanitas. I was switching between TV shows and only got a glimpse but I'm pretty sure...
I don't think that heroin addiction treatment belongs on a hallucinogen-themed episode of a TV show, and they kind of gave people the impression that you have to fly over to the amazon to try DMT.
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