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 Re: Hallucinogens episode of Drugs Inc. on Nat Geo  [Re: Nature Boy]
#15672504 - 01/16/12 08:09 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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I watched the show...man it pissed me off. Referred to Ayahuasca as a "narcotic", made it out to be all kinds of dangerous. Same treatment with LSD, still demonizing it and this show was just another in a long line of misinformation, scare tactic and propaganda. Sure glad my wife didn't see it, as SOME DAY I'd like her to perhaps try some changa.
The asshole with the cluster headaches is going about "self-medicating" with mushrooms all wrong. He is taking enough to trip uncomfortably every two months. He should be sub-clinically dosing / micro dosing himself by taking ONE or TWO of his capsules three times a week. He won't trip, will have minimal to NO nausea, and no headaches. That man is ill-informed because his own doctors have no clue and he has no good resource or hasn't bothered to discover for himself a better way.
Overall, I grimaced throughout the whole show...it made me really angry that the producers once again failed to present an UNBIASED well informed and accurate depiction of the risks/benefits of the psychedelics they featured.
N.B.
I completely agree and stressed some of the same concerns in the last Drugs,Inc thread. Next weeks ketamine episode will probably be more of the same.
I have seen similar shows do an even worse job of representing these drugs, that is for sure. But IMO Drugs,Inc is nothing more than mindless entertainment. It has a lot of drug imagery and shows some of the people who use these substances and I like seeing that, purely as entertainment.
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Re: Hallucinogens episode of Drugs Inc. on Nat Geo [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
#15672543 - 01/16/12 08:29 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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 I giggled at the mushroom guy's PF Tek cakes too. Not that I made it much further when I grew. It was just funny though. I wonder if he learned to grow from The Shroomery. Maybe he's a member here.
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Re: Hallucinogens episode of Drugs Inc. on Nat Geo [Re: Learyfan] 1
#15672548 - 01/16/12 08:33 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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I giggled at the mushroom guy's PF Tek cakes too. Not that I made it much further when I grew. It was just funny though. I wonder if he learned to grow from The Shroomery. Maybe he's a member here.
I wouldn't hold it past him.See alot of older people and what not who just stop here, learn to grow or have some questions and then move on. Pathetic thing is he got more yield off those Pf cakes then I did from 8 mono's recently that gave me hell with their inferior MS genetics lol.
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Re: Hallucinogens episode of Drugs Inc. on Nat Geo [Re: Learyfan] 1
#15672582 - 01/16/12 08:59 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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I giggled at the mushroom guy's PF Tek cakes too. Not that I made it much further when I grew. It was just funny though. I wonder if he learned to grow from The Shroomery. Maybe he's a member here.
I was wodnering the same thing after I saw his PF tek and the way he stored his dried mushrooms.
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Re: Hallucinogens episode of Drugs Inc. on Nat Geo [Re: 240779] 1
#15672595 - 01/16/12 09:06 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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The U.K. Nat Geo has a program called LSD: Trip to Hell?
They also have that one hour show "Should I smoke Dope". Its where they follow some lassee who's never smoked pot into Amsterdam when she works at a Cafe and starts to experiment with Marijuana. I didn't like how they titled the show. Dope can mean many different things and has a negative connotation associated with it.
I just went by the NatGeo website and it has already started to peepee me off.
One thing I hate about Hollywood and people who write for TV Shows and Movies is how much bullshit they convey to the innocent masses who are more than ignorant on any subject that the writers present.
Think about it for a few momentitos. An investigative journalist will do his/her's due dillegence (Hopefully) in researching and presenting their story. That on the other hand compounded by political motivations a little further up, usually editors and such, can skew the story to support a pro nazi dea stance.
That and the writers can really screw-up what they are writing. Like someone mentioning above that the TV show mentioned Ayahuasca was a Narcotic. To us that is an obvious screw-up. But to the lay-person it makes perfect sense since anything that is illegal drug wise is a Narcotic.
They should remake this show but have a handful of us from HERE write the show
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Re: Hallucinogens episode of Drugs Inc. on Nat Geo [Re: Its Pat]
#15672666 - 01/16/12 09:53 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Lol.Thats as unbiased as a show is gonna get.
It just makes you guys mad cuz all you want to hear is that all drugs are good and harmless for everyone,come on.lol
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Re: Hallucinogens episode of Drugs Inc. on Nat Geo [Re: Solo_Dolo]
#15672732 - 01/16/12 10:23 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Lol.Thats as unbiased as a show is gonna get.
It just makes you guys mad cuz all you want to hear is that all drugs are good and harmless for everyone,come on.lol
Not true. Not true at all. What I would love to see - and what needs to be seen as widely as this Drugs, Inc. propaganda and fear mongering - is an appraisal based upon professionally designed research and findings, academic, and apolitical SCIENCE. THEN you would see an entirely different assessment of the risks/rewards, benefits, and alternatives to the medical and psychological value of these compounds, not to mention the relative innocuousness of the "natural" hallucinogens compared to the big pharma alternatives.
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Re: Hallucinogens episode of Drugs Inc. on Nat Geo [Re: Learyfan]
#15672797 - 01/16/12 10:56 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Okay, now I remember why I forgot about this show in the first place. Couldn't get this particular episode so I watched the one on ecstasy last night and there is so much bad information it's laughable. I get too frustrated watching things like this, fluctuates from good to bad way too much. Shit, even the abc doc on ecstasy was more unbiased. There was no mix of accurate and inaccurate info like the natgeo production.
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Re: Hallucinogens episode of Drugs Inc. on Nat Geo [Re: eaSe] 1
#15672804 - 01/16/12 10:56 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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"That...that ceiling fan... It's Hwhiter than Hwhite! It's the Hwhitest Hwhite that hwhite could be!"
Yeah I got a kick out of that too, especially when he said "Maybe this is how things really are!" Lol, he'll figure it out eventually...
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Re: Hallucinogens episode of Drugs Inc. on Nat Geo [Re: Nature Boy]
#15672836 - 01/16/12 11:06 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Lol.Thats as unbiased as a show is gonna get.
It just makes you guys mad cuz all you want to hear is that all drugs are good and harmless for everyone,come on.lol
Not true. Not true at all. What I would love to see - and what needs to be seen as widely as this Drugs, Inc. propaganda and fear mongering - is an appraisal based upon professionally designed research and findings, academic, and apolitical SCIENCE. THEN you would see an entirely different assessment of the risks/rewards, benefits, and alternatives to the medical and psychological value of these compounds, not to mention the relative innocuousness of the "natural" hallucinogens compared to the big pharma alternatives.
N.B.
I just failed to see this as "fear mongering" or propaganda.Like what was the problem?idk...even my non-drug user friends who have watched the show have told me that it portrays them in a good light and are more inclined to experiment with mdma or shrooms/lsd.Idk.Just think peeps here hold these drugs in such a way that no matter how any show is done yall have problems with it.lol
Its like watching a movie that was based from a book with a friend who loved the book.Like shut up we know you are gonna say "oh whatever the book was better and shit is wack"..lol ot something along those lines.
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Re: Hallucinogens episode of Drugs Inc. on Nat Geo [Re: Solo_Dolo] 1
#15672848 - 01/16/12 11:10 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Check out "Ecstasy rising" for a good example of a mainstream drug doc. With "Drugs inc" there is a mix of good,bad and plain 'ol misinformation. I cannot comment on the latest episode though, only the first season and the ecstasy episode.
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Edited by love2shpongleIRL (01/16/12 11:13 AM)
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Re: Hallucinogens episode of Drugs Inc. on Nat Geo [Re: psychotropical]
#15672905 - 01/16/12 11:26 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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"That...that ceiling fan... It's Hwhiter than Hwhite! It's the Hwhitest Hwhite that hwhite could be!"
Yeah I got a kick out of that too, especially when he said "Maybe this is how things really are!" Lol, he'll figure it out eventually...
That was my favorite part. 
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Re: Hallucinogens episode of Drugs Inc. on Nat Geo [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
#15673400 - 01/16/12 01:59 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Anybody here remember Terence McKenna saying that ayahuasca makes language able to be beheld, or in other words, visible? I was intrigued by the black chick tripping on ayahuasca cause I'm pretty sure that she was figuring that out for herself...
When she was singing, she'd let out a couple notes and then say "Oooh..." with a wide eyed look as she appeared to "follow" the visible sound across the room with her eyes. I could be wrong about that, but as I watched it I heard Terence's voice echo in my head and feel fairly confident that that is what she was experiencing.
Not sure if anyone else noticed that or thought anything of it. Sounds like it would be pretty awesome to experience though.
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Re: Hallucinogens episode of Drugs Inc. on Nat Geo [Re: love2shpongleIRL]
#15673507 - 01/16/12 02:44 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Check out "Ecstasy rising" for a good example of a mainstream drug doc.
That exactly what I was going to say. The LSD episode of "Histories Mysteries" on the History Channel was very unbiased as well. That one and "Ecstasy Rising" are, I think, the ONLY two non-biased drug shows I have ever seen.
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Re: Hallucinogens episode of Drugs Inc. on Nat Geo [Re: Shpongle1]
#15673588 - 01/16/12 03:08 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Anybody here remember Terence McKenna saying that ayahuasca makes language able to be beheld, or in other words, visible? I was intrigued by the black chick tripping on ayahuasca cause I'm pretty sure that she was figuring that out for herself...
When she was singing, she'd let out a couple notes and then say "Oooh..." with a wide eyed look as she appeared to "follow" the visible sound across the room with her eyes. I could be wrong about that, but as I watched it I heard Terence's voice echo in my head and feel fairly confident that that is what she was experiencing.
Not sure if anyone else noticed that or thought anything of it. Sounds like it would be pretty awesome to experience though.
Yeah no doubt that in between all the puking she was experiencing something pretty profound. Hard to say looking at it from the outside. These type of experiences can only be described as ineffable. Any time I've tried to put any of it into words, I just watch my words fall flat on the floor. Normal language such as English is woefully inadequate at that level.
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Re: Hallucinogens episode of Drugs Inc. on Nat Geo [Re: psychotropical]
#15673648 - 01/16/12 03:27 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Anyone got a torrent or stream link? I cannot find this episode anywhere.
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Re: Hallucinogens episode of Drugs Inc. on Nat Geo [Re: psychotropical]
#15675048 - 01/16/12 08:55 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Know what channel by chance? Still no streams or torrents up, found a rapidshare link but that turned out to be a fake.
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Re: Hallucinogens episode of Drugs Inc. on Nat Geo [Re: love2shpongleIRL]
#15675063 - 01/16/12 08:58 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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i missed it when is it on again?
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Re: Hallucinogens episode of Drugs Inc. on Nat Geo [Re: babydoll]
#15675096 - 01/16/12 09:06 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Is there any links yet?
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