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#15662022 - 01/13/12 08:19 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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What's up guys? Baseball season is just around the corner, and the offseason has proved ridiculous thus far. Pujols and CJ Wilson to the Angels, Fielder might go to Texas, and my Mariners just traded Michael Pineda to the Yanks for Jesus Montero.
The Nats are shaping up nicely this offseason, as are the Marlins...2012 will prove to be an interesting year, especially if they add the 1 game playoff shootout!
What are you guys looking forward to in 2012? Any hopes for your teams to be playoff contenders?
World Series predictions?
Los Angeles Angels VS. Philadelphia Phillies
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Re: 2012 Baseball Chat [Re: Anthony]
#15662041 - 01/13/12 08:22 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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I am most looking forward to seeing the Marlins and the new look Angels and the 2 teams I root for; the Reds and Indians. Reds brought in Latos for Cueto and a couple prospects. Reds have a pretty solid rotation
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Re: 2012 Baseball Chat [Re: Anthony]
#15662291 - 01/13/12 09:31 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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and my Mariners just traded Michael Pineda to the Yanks for Jesus Montero.
Oh My Fucking Zappa! Dweezilmas in January! Montero was blocked for the Yanks. Pineda is incredibly promising. This is the biggest trade of very young studs in the making that I have ever seen. Oh yeah, Yanks signed Kuroda.
Holy Fucking Shit Brian Cashman goes into the Hall just for what he did today.
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stoked on some of the moves made, the reds are my nl team so I'm real happy about latos. Hopefully get to see some prospects throw for the rangers over the season and def watching to what drew smyly does for the tigers.
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cant wait for fantasy baseball
should be a fun year in the sport. some big change-ups happening
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and my Mariners just traded Michael Pineda to the Yanks for Jesus Montero.
Holy Fucking Shit Brian Cashman goes into the Hall just for what he did today.
yea I'm a little apprehensive about trading Pineda, but the Mariners need a bat so badly...especially since we are going to get crushed again by LA and Texas this year. I really want to see us finish .500 this season. My job hinges on the quality of our sports teams, and when you draw 15,000 fans, business is slow...
Pineda is a beast. Idk how much you watched him pitch last year, but I saw every one of his starts...and he is good. Real good. Once he refines his change...he could easily be one of the best pitchers in baseball. I wouldn't be surprised if he wins 20+ games He's fucking huge, too. 6'7 260lb 
Smoak, Montero, Ackley, Guttierez & Ichiro (who both need to rebound) Mike Carp...
Mariners could be aight...plus we'll see what Hultzen has to say in 2012
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Re: 2012 Baseball Chat [Re: Anthony]
#15664455 - 01/14/12 11:37 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Baby CC! They're just going to have find a position for Montero. It's not an accident that the Yanks didn't showcase his catching skills in the call-up.
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I am curious where Darvish lands. Have been following him for 2-3 years now since someone posted a video of him on here
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Baby CC! They're just going to have find a position for Montero. It's not an accident that the Yanks didn't showcase his catching skills in the call-up.
he will definitely go DH/1B, which kind of devalues the trade a little bit. Montero was highly prized because he was a catching prospect, and there aren't many power hitting catchers in the league right now (maybe buster posey?).
Although it's been proven that players who catch suffer a decline in their abilities at the plate. This can be attributed to the physical strain necessary to play catcher, among other things.
We brought Montero here to hit, and that's precisely what he's going to do. I really don't like the fact that the M's traded Campos as well, but what can ya do?
Hopefully we will sign Oswalt or Edwin Jackson to a short contract to fill the void until Hultzen, Paxton and Walker are MLB ready.
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Re: 2012 Baseball Chat [Re: Anthony]
#15665239 - 01/14/12 02:50 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Smoak is first so the Mariners just gave up a monster baby they wouldn't have to pay for years for a young hitter who will clutter up the DH spot. Who the fuck is running that team? Forrest Gump?
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Smoak is first so the Mariners just gave up a monster baby they wouldn't have to pay for years for a young hitter who will clutter up the DH spot. Who the fuck is running that team? Forrest Gump?
montero is one of the highest rated young batters in the game right now.
There's definitely a risk you run building your team around young pitching. Pineda had elbow problems in the minors in '09, and the Yanks should be grateful our management limited his innings last year.
Plus, we have 3 of the top pitching prospects in our AAA system right now. Pineda is replaceable. Danny Hultzen and James Paxton are both likely going to be comparable, if not better than Pineda.
Not to mention that batting was particularly light in the 2012 free agency, and if the M's aren't going to bring in Fielder (who is the only amazing free agent left) then Montero isn't a bad replacement.
He has a lot of opposite field power, and hopefully won't be inhibited by left field in Safeco.
I think this was a good trade for both teams. The Yanks got the better end of the deal, but considering the tough spot the Mariners were in, this move needed to be made.
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Re: 2012 Baseball Chat [Re: Anthony]
#15665389 - 01/14/12 03:23 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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What position is Montero going to play?
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The more I think about this from the Seattle point of view the more I'm guessing that they tried to peddle Felix but the Yanks weren't buying the contract problem.
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What position is Montero going to play?
DH. I can't see him filling any other role. Smoak will start at 1st, and I don't think we would have signed Jaso if we had intentions of Montero catching.
I mean, you never know, I guess Mike Piazza wasn't very good defensively when he started his career either. I mean, last year Miguel Olivo lead our team in HR's with 19. Montero could easily double that.
I think they would have been smarter to deal Felix, because Felix has more value than pineda, and we probably wouldn't have had to give you guys Campos either.
We need a power bat in our lineup, and if Ichiro and Gutti bounce back from a dismal 2011, we could easily finish above .500. Definitely a success by mariners standards
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Re: 2012 Baseball Chat [Re: Anthony]
#15665609 - 01/14/12 04:18 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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What position is Montero going to play?
DH. I can't see him filling any other role. Smoak will start at 1st, and I don't think we would have signed Jaso if we had intentions of Montero catching.
I agree. Which is why I scratched my head . I would never lock up DH with a youngster. Ever.Quote:
I mean, you never know, I guess Mike Piazza wasn't very good defensively when he started his career either. I mean, last year Miguel Olivo lead our team in HR's with 19. Montero could easily double that.
That's just a tiny reach. Not being sarcastic.Quote:
I think they would have been smarter to deal Felix, because Felix has more value than pineda, and we probably wouldn't have had to give you guys Campos either.
I disagree. I think Felix had LESS value.Quote:
We need a power bat in our lineup, and if Ichiro and Gutti bounce back from a dismal 2011, we could easily finish above .500. Definitely a success by mariners standards
Don't count on much from Ichiro here on out
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I think Felix is better because he is still young, has much better composure, his pitches are nastier, and overall I think he demands control of the game more than Pineda.
Pineda is a lot riskier than Felix as well.
I guess I shouldn't say montero could EASILY hit 38 Hrs, but he definitely has that capability.
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Re: 2012 Baseball Chat [Re: Anthony]
#15665654 - 01/14/12 04:31 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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He sure does.
My point about Pineda/Felix is strictly money.
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true, Pineda is the best pitcher you are going to get for that money. No doubt. Now I just hope he gets injured 
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Re: 2012 Baseball Chat [Re: Anthony]
#15665690 - 01/14/12 04:38 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Montero is a gay Haitian needle addict. You didn't know?
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Cards fan here. Although we lost Pujols, I think by picking up Beltran and getting Waino back, there's still a great chance for making another post-season run, but we'll see.
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