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Kevin_X2 said:
Just watch cartoons if your so anxious.

I usually watch a light movie - most of the time Supertroopers - while i slowly munch and come up. I basically forget about tripping until it starts happening.

Then switch over to The Simpsons or Family Guy and laugh and cry for 6 hours.

Also helps to take a shower an hour or so after you eat. Always leaves me feeling refreshed and new, plus it feels incredible.

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I remember one very chill trip I had just watching South Park.  Just one hit of good lsd.  It was the Cartman KFC/Randy weed episode.  SO HILARIOUS OMG!

Also watched an old 90s show, Sliders, on 2g of shrooms once with a buddy.  That was in February I think, and was only my 2nd ever "trip."

If you already think a lot then trying to find the answers of life through psychs will just make you go insane.  After my most recent trip (4 hits LSD, introducing a good friend to LSD for his first time as well, also took 4) everything seemed pointless afterward.  Psychs are so crazy because of what they do to your ego, and this recent trip of mine had me breaking things down so simply - us men go out and fuck women to continue passing on our dna.  To be honest, I get like really horny sometimes on psychs.  Like a primal drive to just fuck the shit out of some lovely lady.  I feel so superior almost sometimes..

It's weird man.  As others have said, and it's probably the best advice.. JUST LET GO.

I always feel 10x better during a trip if I just let go and let my mind wander.  Trying to think about existential things while tripping won't get you too far.  IMO, it will only get you one step further - either diminishing your faith or strengthening it.  It somehow manages to do both for me.  Crazy right?

Psychs have shown me the conditioning that we are all under, and that we are really just fucking animals.  This crazy higher power stuff is either real because how did our dna evolve to the point where us animals can build skyscrapers, nukes, vaccines, microscopes, computers.. the list goes on.  Nothing else on this planet, or in our small observable universe, can do that.  I'm always absolutely blown away by our complexity and try and cherish every day because of how amazing we are as homo sapiens, to be able to do the things we do.  It's taught me to never take things for granted (although I never really did before.. just even more-so now).  On the flip side, I've thought about the absolute absurdity that goes on within religion, from an objective standpoint.. and some of it is ludicrous.  All that being said, just take after JoeM.  He's been to heaven and back and says there's no point trying to get something more than is already here out of these experiences.  Or that's the conclusion he's seemingly come to, and I would agree.

Just don't overthink it.  Honestly, tripping is fun as hell.  It puts a grin on my face no other drug can touch.  It's absurd how much fun you can have doing the simplest things.  Just don't overthink things, and rather just enjoy the fact that you're alive, and are able to propel your consciousnesses even further through the use of these relatively new and amazing chemicals.  That's one other things psychs have taught me; I now truly understand relativity.  If you plan to go to the "unknown," just know that you won't find much there

Just feel the vibes.  They are so sensational..

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MotherNaturesSon said:
These existential questions and the amplification of such seem at first to be a trademark of the psych drugs.

Tbh when i first started tripping I thought it was a gift of the trips and that each trip would subsequently lead to a sort of revelation.

But i later came to realize that this was not only not part of the psychedelic compound but that it was in fact a part of myself emitting from the dephs of my very being.

In fact, the obsession with these questions and the harshness of their intangible reality is one of the "traps" or "trials" for a certain kind of people during trips.

It is a personality issue that presents itself inevitably during the trips.

Let me tell you here and now:

the true art of tripping is all fitted into a phrase constructed quite some time ago: go with the flow.

there are people who oversimplify tripping and they have their trials, but you, as I once did, belong to the category of people who overcomplicate the concept and purpose of tripping.

These questions that rise within you are a problem. Not because inquisitiveness is a problem in itself, but because tripping is about letting go and in the long run, so is life.

Letting go of the grandeur, of the delusion that man is meant to have answers of subjectively appointed great importance. What happens after death is something every living person would like to know because it would make one attain predictability.

But allas, the true test that presents itself in the form of your anxiety is to learn to let go of the obsessive need to know. to learn not to believe that knowledge is equal to safety. Know also that knowledge is not proportional to one's wisdom.

But at this time i would guess you are doing that which i did during my period of "craving to know to answers to the big questions"- wenturing further and further down the rabbit hole. Know this, if you persist, at some point, when the truth finally manifests itself to you-- it will overwhelm you. There's a good saying "His name not for human ears to hear and not for human tongue to speak".

As long as you are alive, you must focus on the simple applications of life. Life is a blink between two sets of the unkown- the before life and after life. Appreciate and comprehend that which you may comprehend at this moment and allow knowing to stop at that which cannot be known at this given time, or else be crushed on the lather of heaven.

I hope these thoughts alleviated your mind somewhat. At least enough to let you see that you are not alone. But what will truly teach you what i am trying to commune to you is the mushroom. So for the next time you trip, I advise you to come to terms with these ideas and direct your mindset towards a little something like this:

"i need not expect anything, i need not learn, receive or loose anything. Nothing within  my experience means anything more than it meant at that moment. Nothing is to happen or change unless it does. I will go with each curve of the stream; alter nothing, suggest nothing, interpret nothing, hope for nothing and fear nothing, not even the emotion of raw fear or other distressing emotion that may surge through me at the time of the experience. i need not do anything to make things happen, if i am feeling good as it is, i am in no need to accelerate the experience.

everything will go to its own accord, if i feel like dancing- i dance. If i have a thought concerning things that disturb me- i will not smother the thought. I am in no position to assess anyting, neither the significance of a vision, nor the graveness of it. But even if i feel overwhelmed- i will retain my calm and allow whatever is to happen to come to pass, thus feeling overwhlemed but not being it. the information i am about to receive is beyond that of conventional understanding and linguistic expression- words are completely unnececary as are explanations or logistic timelines/frames. i will not be bewildered, horrified or unsatisfied with the situation, i will be calm and content, I will be listening and will be grateful for all i experience. I will not try to put everything I am to experience into a frame to assert certain expectations or preconseptions. I will go with the flow, make nothing more of it than it was during the magical moment of time and move on with the ineffable lesson learnt, quiet and content. Back to the everyday life and routine.

this is a very zen or tao approach, if you will. i have found that it universally reaps the cleanest and most revelatory experiences than compared to any other mind-set. I believe you'll experience a shockingly different trip from your previous, at least I can say that i have only truly experienced what it meant to be tripping after a year and a half after i started, because I had not yet attained the right set to experience everything to its fullest.

many trippers may believe high doses= deeper experience. that is an utter folly i have had the pleasure of dabbling in myself. the dose is hardly relevant. most important is the sponge- how well your mind absorbs the pure information without re-filtering/revamping or interpreting it. in the end tripping is not about the information you recieve, it is about how you condition yourself to recieve it. it is not about the feelings you get, but the act of feeling itself. and the poetry within the fact, that you seem to learn so much more without putting any effort into it, than you do whilst desperately striving or pushing yourself. 

hope this will be of use to you in the future.

peace

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infectedstyle said:
I have a lot of anxiety while tripping. I've had a small revelation tho about that anxiety. I learned that ur brain can operate in two ways.
To generalize and not overburn you with information you don't need. One part of the brain deals with anxiety and sadness and fear etc. and the other part deals with bliss and joy and thinking. Only one of these parts will work at the same time. It basically shuts the other off.

What i noticed is that when im fearful all i have to do is contemplate something. Doesn't matter what, and the fear will go away for the time being. Just thinking to myself seems to help. Anything else that asks for immediate attention will probably also help.

So the anxiety is also completely normal! It's ur brain's reaction to these compounds. Another thing to note is that before enlightenment there's always a period of fear and just sheer terror. It's because your brain will flood energy on that side. And then when shit hits the fan all the energy will go over to the bliss side of ur brain. And bam, you become enlightened. simple as that.

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grizzlynick said:
so nobody knows what happens when you die? or you just cant put into words. Me taking another drug(whether it be weed of shrooms) will depend on the next answer you give me, is life just one scene in an never ending movie, or do I just keep on the same script, and relive it over and over again?

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grizzlynick said:
ya right

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.. how are we supposed to know the answers to those type of questions?

We're only human

From a physical standpoint, I know this is what happens when you die.  Your mind shuts down, your body shuts down, you get put in a coffin or get cremated, etc, your body pretty much isn't what is was for your whole life.  What happens to your consciousness?  NOBODY KNOWS.  How is it even possible to know?  There's enough "propaganda" from both sides I feel safe saying there really is no answer, and you'll just have to wait until you're dead to find out

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grizzlynick said:
i see whats going on here

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Nyarlethotep said:
The answer to all life, the universe, and everything in existence is...42.


And btw, when I suggested reading buddhist literature, it wasn't for spiritual purposes or anything, just something to read to keep you in that kind of mindset, which I find very useful for tripping.

The concepts of letting go, emptiness, becoming one, attaining enlightenment, getting rid of the ego, are all very psychedelic sounding experiences to me. Meditation and yoga are just things you can do to clear your mind.

So to summarize, I wasn't proselytizing(hell, I'm not even a Buddhist myself(don't believe in reincarnation)just some suggested reading to get you in that mindset for tripping.


Also, watching comedies, cartoons, and such can alleviate anxiety. It's all about mindset. If you stay in the right mindset, these substances will take you where you want to go. If you have the wrong mindset, these substances will still take you where you wanna go.

You see now? Hope that explains some things.

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Getting back to tripping, and how to stay calm, etc,
I agree that Buddhism has a lot of good ideas for YOU.  It's one religion that seems to focus a lot on you as a person, rather than just like some history and other magical stuff.

One time I went to amazon.com and looked inside the book "Be Here Now" by ram dass.  So I just got to preview some of it.  When I got to the part where it was all just phrases, I was like tripping at how much all of them made sense.  The artsy way it was done was pretty cool too.. lol.

I simply think that the concepts you mentioned are helpful for tripping, even if you aren't a Buddhist.  I still follow a lot of the ideas, although I wouldn't call myself Buddhist


Oh and nick are you just or what?

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k00laid said:
but protip: nothing is SUPPOSED to be anything. everything just is.

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k00laid said:
but protip: nothing is SUPPOSED to be anything. everything just is.

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indeed