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 Suchen's Fall Florida Fungi 
#15366974 - 11/13/11 11:48 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Fiiiinally back in the 813. My extended business trip to New Orleans kept me away from my 'shrooms for far too long, as evidenced by my delirious 'Is this a Mushroom?' thread among other things. It's good to be back 
My go-to spot now is one of the many wilderness areas scattered around the Tampa area. A good mix of planted pine forest, Florida palm(/etto) swamp, and hardwood hammock. All of these mushrooms were found either in the disturbed area just off the trails or in cleared fields also just off the trails.
1) These babies were EXPLODING today. Growing alongside trail areas from very sandy disturbed soil.
Cap and stem: buff colored. The cap of the young one was rather more yellow with hints of purple than the older specimens
Gills: vinaceous purple color.
Possibly Laccaria ochropurpurea?
  
2) This one was growing scattered under the branches of a fallen tree. There was whitish milk on the gills where I scratched them, though it just barely shows up in the photos 
Cap and stem: light pink. Some caps were tannish. The stems were off-center on most specimens, though that may have been due to their habit of growing out awkwardly from beneath branches.
Gills: off-white to cream exuding a small amount of white latex which didn't change color.
 
Conjoined twins of the same species:
3) These nasty ol' Pisolithus were popping everywhere there were roots (which was everywhere):
4) Pycnoporus cinnabarinus? Cap and pores the same vibrant orange color.
 
5) This mushroom called to me. It was one of those moments where I stopped dead in my tracks and looked around very carefully to find what had called me, much like the first Hydnum I ever found. The blackening of the gill edges on this specimen were fascinating. Unfortunately it was the only one of its kind. The stipe was 2-3 cm thick, off-white, and stuffed full but didn't weigh much if that makes sense. Cap was roughly 15 cm in diameter and brown.
 
6) These
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EVERYWHERE!
  
They have prominent nipples, which according to elprawn means they must be liberty caps!  Seriously though, can you all help me out here? The gills and stem looked rather like older Armillaria tabescens which had reddened/browned a bit. These mushrooms were covering an ENTIRE field:
That photo obviously doesn't do them justice, but picture a 125m x 75m field with tough palmetto and tough razor-sharp grasses teeming with nipples.
Thanks as always, mighty Shroomerites. Power to the posters! 
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Re: Suchen's Fall Florida Fungi [Re: suchen]
#15367183 - 11/14/11 12:30 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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sweet pics suchen!! 
that orange polypore is amazing!! ive never seen anything like it!
and the nipples on 6 are awesome!! they look kinda like a Clitocybe species but those nipples are different! 
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Re: Suchen's Fall Florida Fungi [Re: suchen]
#15367201 - 11/14/11 12:35 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Nice ! 
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nice hunt suchen...  i wish iot would rain... i think i found the same as ur #5, i thinck it a lactarius 
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Re: Suchen's Fall Florida Fungi [Re: Madcaps]
#15368512 - 11/14/11 11:54 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Nice, thanks Madcaps! I have found a brown-stiped Lactarius that looked very similar in this same area a month or two ago. Perhaps they are closely related:
 
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Re: Suchen's Fall Florida Fungi [Re: suchen]
#15370904 - 11/14/11 09:41 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Shameless bump. Can anyone help a brutha out with some IDs? I can provide additional info if needed. Much appreciated 
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Re: Suchen's Fall Florida Fungi [Re: suchen]
#15371105 - 11/14/11 10:15 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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I'm looking at them... you first one is laccaria laccata complex, here's L. occrapurpurea 
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Re: Suchen's Fall Florida Fungi [Re: suchen]
#15371530 - 11/14/11 11:22 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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5 is one of the black staining Russula's.
6 is very interesting, maybe something like Clitocybe or Lepista. Put some pics on mushroomobserver.org and see if anyone recognizes it. Seems very recognizable but I have never seen it before. It would be fun to grow. If it is edible it might sell well due to the nipple.
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Cool, thanks paducah and Alan. I am a little embarrassed to post on M.O. because the samples I collected (6 caps young and old) didn't drop spores on tin foil. No scope either 
I didn't put a ton of effort into collecting the spore prints, so tomorrow I will go back and try harder. The more I stare at them the more they put me in mind of Lentinus for some reason
I will go 'head and post them on Mushroom Observer anyway. Thanks again
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Re: Suchen's Fall Florida Fungi [Re: suchen]
#15371651 - 11/14/11 11:49 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Cool, thanks paducah and Alan. I am a little embarrassed to post on M.O. because the samples I collected (6 caps young and old) didn't drop spores on tin foil. No scope either
A very small percentage of mushroomobserver posts have spore prints or microscopy.
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Mushroom Observer post created. Let's see if we can get some magic to happen 
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Re: Suchen's Fall Florida Fungi [Re: suchen]
#15372400 - 11/15/11 02:22 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Mushroom Observer post created. Let's see if we can get some magic to happen
Success.
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Thanks for the protip! Wow that was fast. Would never have guessed Lactarius
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Re: Suchen's Fall Florida Fungi [Re: suchen]
#15376504 - 11/15/11 11:06 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Lactarius eh? cool!
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Lactarius eh? cool!
I know, right! I think it's funny to have a Lactarius species with a nipple. A shame the latex isn't exuded through it 
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Re: Suchen's Fall Florida Fungi [Re: suchen]
#15380462 - 11/16/11 07:28 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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I know, right! I think it's funny to have a Lactarius species with a nipple. A shame the latex isn't exuded through it
LOFL... could you provide a link to the MO page where this was ID'd?
Thanks!!
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Re: Suchen's Fall Florida Fungi [Re: Phishfinder]
#15380572 - 11/16/11 07:52 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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It was only identified to genus, but I think it may be pretty tough to get down to species. Here ya go!
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Re: Suchen's Fall Florida Fungi [Re: suchen]
#15384372 - 11/17/11 04:03 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks! You'd think the "nipple" would make it a dead give-away.
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Re: Suchen's Fall Florida Fungi [Re: Phishfinder]
#15384744 - 11/17/11 05:12 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks! You'd think the "nipple" would make it a dead give-away.
Yea for sure. We should keep bumping the observation until it gets identified.
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Looks like someone doesn't like the Clitocybe idea. The plot thickens. I really should get back over there tomorrow and settle the latex vs. no latex debate.
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Re: Suchen's Fall Florida Fungi [Re: suchen]
#15421945 - 11/25/11 03:01 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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As a bit of an update:
   
Spore print white. I finally got the caps to print by draping a lightly damp paper towel over them and covering with a bowl for 5-6 hours. Prints were weaker than the photo makes them appear.
Milk as exuded was watery-white but extremely scanty as you can see from the photo. Didn't seem to stain gills or change colors at all.
Stipes were hollow and snapped easily like chalk.
After drying the caps smell strongly like maple syrup. It's crazy! I have the dried caps sitting on my desk still because I like the smell so much After some serious searching it is likely Lactarius fragilis or other "candy cap" due to the maple syrup smell, milk color, and general appearance.
I've sent Alan Rockefeller a few spore prints and caps, so when he gets back from Mexico and finds some time he will 'scope them 
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Re: Suchen's Fall Florida Fungi [Re: suchen]
#15421977 - 11/25/11 03:08 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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sounds like you figured it out; white latex that doesn't stain the flesh, maple-syrup smell, they aren't rufus enough to be L. rufulus, so have you compared them to L. Camphoratus?
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Re: Suchen's Fall Florida Fungi [Re: SomeGuy]
#15422053 - 11/25/11 03:26 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Yup, L. camphoratus is said to have a smooth cap whereas L. fragilis is roughened as is my collection
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Re: Suchen's Fall Florida Fungi [Re: suchen]
#15422064 - 11/25/11 03:28 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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however, L. camphoratus is papalate, which yours are according to mushroom expert, thats a distinctive feature
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Re: Suchen's Fall Florida Fungi [Re: SomeGuy]
#15422087 - 11/25/11 03:32 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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After extensive searching I have found that L. fragilis tends to be umbonate, especially in the Southeast apparently. Tough to say whether mine are umbonate or papillate, but I think umbonate better describes it.
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Re: Suchen's Fall Florida Fungi [Re: suchen]
#15422097 - 11/25/11 03:34 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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I'm nobody, but I think umbinate describes a low bump and papalate describes a sharp point
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Re: Suchen's Fall Florida Fungi [Re: suchen]
#15636474 - 01/08/12 09:08 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Update on the pointy Lactarius -
Odor of the dry sample was strongly like maple syrup.
Pleurocystidia not observed. Cheilocystidia present and small, various shapes.
Spores mounted in melzers 1000x:
Pileus cross section 100x:
Gill cross section 400x
More microscopy at http://mushroomobserver.org/obs/85991
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Glad to see my first-timer/ghetto packing job held up! I'm glad you could take a look at them for me The amyloid ornamentation on the spores looks so cool 
I swung for Lactarius fragilis again over on Mushroom Observer based on it being the most likely species to show up in the southeast and not smell like curry.
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Re: Suchen's Fall Florida Fungi [Re: suchen]
#15636997 - 01/08/12 11:08 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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I swung for Lactarius fragilis again over on Mushroom Observer based on it being the most likely species to show up in the southeast and not smell like curry.
What are the cystidia supposed to be like on L. fragilis?
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I haven't been able to find one anywhere
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