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Just fucking Skyrim. Tripping. Itll be like a world within a world within a world. 11.11.11
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im pretty excited too!
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I literally cannot wait.
dude sounds like a total geek lol
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I can't wait either. This will be my game of the year, no question.
I have so much respect for this game that I'm going to force myself to wait an entire 2 months after release date so I can purchase a new computer and play it in it's full glory.
For all of you who are stoked for this game and can't wait, check out Dark Souls. Now.
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Dark souls???
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Re: SKYRIM [Re: czach]
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Dark souls looks ok but I heard tht it was ridiculously hard
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Just as hard as the first one. Plan on dieing alot. If u like rpgs check it out. u won't be disappointed. oh and yeah SKYRIM Only a little time left. can't wait!
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 This game is going to make me go:
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#15248919 - 10/19/11 09:12 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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WOOOOOOOOOOOO SKYrim
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Soooooo fucking stoked on Skyrim.
I prepurchased it on Steam as soon as I could.
Wish Dark Souls wasnt solely PS3 tho, cause that game
looks uber sick as well.
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Dark souls is on xbox 3shitty as well
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Yeah still shitty for me since I
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Haha, that's why I love Dark Souls. It's a terrific challenge. Most games these days are just too easy. Dark Souls has wonderfully intricate gameplay. It also has a fantastic atmosphere. It's numinous and compelling, just as RPGs were back in the day. Dark Souls is probably the most difficult, rewarding, magical game I've played in quite some time. It's certainly not for casual gamers though, and it has its share of incredible frustration. Still, it is probably my favorite game released this year so far (I expect Skyrim to take the cake).
MattyBong, Dark Souls is on 360 as well. Demon Souls was a PS3 exclusive.
Just got Arkham City, and I'm loving it. Between Batman and Dark Souls, the wait for Skyrim shouldn't be that bad at all.
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anyone know if the steam version of skryim is going to be "mod" friendly. ive never tried to mod a steam game before  wait nvm ill prolly want a box for this game
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its soon here .. cant stand it ..
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anyone know if the steam version of skryim is going to be "mod" friendly. ive never tried to mod a steam game before wait nvm ill prolly want a box for this game
yeah
well at least oblivion was mod-able on steam. Just had to follow a different track to get to the game files.
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Considering speeds and speeds, until your realm cant follow the consideration.
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#15266943 - 10/23/11 05:03 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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I look forward to this game. Oblivion was just crap for me. I tried multiple times to "get into it", but sadly it felt to Ye Olde for me 
This game looks like it has the "vibe" morrowind had (and hopefully it does). Ill be buying it!
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I really liked the "Ye Olde" feel of Oblivion. Morrowind was good also, but I am again playing through Oblivion right now to kill time before Skyrims release. Its the third character I've brought to fruition in Oblivion. First time I played it I was a full melee warrior. Second time I was a stealthy thief/assasin. I brought both characters up to mid-30s level before I quit playing them. This time I'm doing a pure mage who relies entirely on magic (I don't even carry a weapon). Its amazing to me that I can replay Oblivion over and over and make it a total different experience each time just by the character alone. I can only hope Skyrim is as much fun and provides such spectacular replay value.
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IM SO FUCKING PUMPED FOR THIS GAMEEE!@!!!11!!!!!!1 im so happy theres a thread about it.
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#15275916 - 10/25/11 01:44 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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I tried dark souls. Fucking impossible lol. Almost destroyed my controller. Not used to hard games these days lol
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#15283454 - 10/26/11 11:50 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah, it's probably the most difficult single player game I've ever played. That's why I love it though; figuring out a difficult area or defeating a boss after continuous trial and error brings a truly novel feeling of accomplishment that is rare to find in modern video games.
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Preordered collecters edition game and strategy guide 2 days ago. Wooo! 15 days now
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#15288757 - 10/28/11 12:18 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Hell yeah wasn't sure if there was a limited edition available. I tried to preorder dark souls when it came out but they didn't have a limited edition. Im definitely getting the limited edition of skyrim! there are some sic videos with a game reporter who got to play it with the creators on youtube. the background looks like legit pictures. it shows the reporter on his map on a mountain peek trail and it was a extremely small portion of the map and it took him hours to walk it. can't remember exactly how many but it was 3+. ill see if i can find the link. SKYRIM WOOOOOT!
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Hell yeah wasn't sure if there was a limited edition available. I tried to preorder dark souls when it came out but they didn't have a limited edition. Im definitely getting the limited edition of skyrim! there are some sic videos with a game reporter who got to play it with the creators on youtube. the background looks like legit pictures. it shows the reporter on his map on a mountain peek trail and it was a extremely small portion of the map and it took him hours to walk it. can't remember exactly how many but it was 3+. ill see if i can find the link. SKYRIM WOOOOOT!
Dear god get me this link. Ive been following this game every day since announcement (really about 3 years lol) and basically know everything about it thats allowed to me by what they release. I mightve already seen it but ive seen alot and i might just not remember lol
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#15290323 - 10/28/11 12:23 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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I cannot wait for this game
Oblivion was cool but the way mobs leveled with you kind of destroyed the whole character improvement that i'm addicted to :P
Hopfully skyrim will fix this ;D
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I'm pretty stoked that there are going to be dragons.
As soon as I get my copy, first on the list is the thieves guild.
I'll probably be switching from this game to MW3, and vice versa every couple of days.
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As soon as I get my copy, first on the list is the thieves guild.
thieves guild is always my top priority too
I loved how you had to find it in order to join it
but I'm wondering if you will be able to use a stealthy approach to take down dragons
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As soon as I get my copy, first on the list is the thieves guild.
thieves guild is always my top priority too
I loved how you had to find it in order to join it
but I'm wondering if you will be able to use a stealthy approach to take down dragons
Not likely, as soon as you see the dragon, it will see you more than likely.
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Dark souls? I just watched one of the videos on youtube. Looks super tight! I getting that game from gamefly.
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Dark souls? I just watched one of the videos on youtube. Looks super tight! I getting that game from gamefly.
Hardest console game ive ever played. Just throwing that out there lol
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That's what I hear. I've read the reviews on gamefly, and even though it is difficult, they still give it a high rating.
The customization options on there looks amazing.
This will be a breath of fresh air, because i'm tired of just breezing through games on the hardest setting and not even breaking a sweat.
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Did you just try and install a keylogger on my computer? 
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AAGH I need the Collector's Edition of Skyrim, but I don't have the money. Hopefully it will still be available new after release. Apparently availability will be limited.
Gonna try to bring in the cash before release :/
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That's what I hear. I've read the reviews on gamefly, and even though it is difficult, they still give it a high rating.
The customization options on there looks amazing.
This will be a breath of fresh air, because i'm tired of just breezing through games on the hardest setting and not even breaking a sweat.
Get Dark Souls man, it is truly incredible. It's just as good as I expect Skyrim to be, in it's own way. The art style is unrivaled in my opinion. Over 100 weapons, 35 sets of armor, countless enemy types, magic, and some of the most intricate, labyrthine environments I've ever witnessed in a video game. The atmosphere of Dark Souls is just mind blowing. The enemies and equipement are incredibly unique and beautifully designed. Artistically, I like it more than Skyrim (not to say Skyrim's art isn't amazing). With Dark Souls, you feel like you're immersed in a truly original, unique world. Everything feels novel, from the art to the NPC dialogue.
It may not have the complete freedom of Skyrim, but there are so many different types of armor and weapons that you can really personalize your character. The extreme difficulty only adds to the experience. Every success is supremely rewarding, and it forces you to approach the game situations almost like real life situations, because the consequences of your mistakes are so great, and you can't cancel your decisions after making them.
This isn't even bringing the multiplayer into account, which is implemented masterfully. Fantastic PvP and coop. Seriously, buy this game
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Holy shit it comes out on the 11th!
So now I gotta balance Bf3 and Skyrim?
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As soon as I get my copy, first on the list is the thieves guild.
thieves guild is always my top priority too
I loved how you had to find it in order to join it
but I'm wondering if you will be able to use a stealthy approach to take down dragons
Not likely, as soon as you see the dragon, it will see you more than likely.
Nah. That will be true at low levels. But if you develop sneak skills and get the perks, you will be able to stealthily take down dragons. There are better companions now too that will help out the stealthy players.
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this just in
werewolves confirmed!!!!
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^Awesome.
This game is going to be a lot like Oblivion but with even more variety. Is Skyrim smaller than Cyrodil? From what I have seen it is.
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This game is going to be a lot like Oblivion but with even more variety. Is Skyrim smaller than Cyrodil? From what I have seen it is.
Everything released says the exact opposite, that this is going to be Oblivion with less variety, less options.
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This game is going to be a lot like Oblivion but with even more variety. Is Skyrim smaller than Cyrodil? From what I have seen it is.
Everything released says the exact opposite, that this is going to be Oblivion with less variety, less options.
I don't know. Dragons, werewolves, dual wielding, greater character customization, richer graphics and environment, better combat, and many more voice actors just to name a few things. How will there be less variety and options?
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I think he's referring to the way they changed the leveling
they simplified it but I agree that it was overly complicated before
I'll just wait to see if it's better or worse before making any comment
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Its definitely better.
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This game is going to be a lot like Oblivion but with even more variety. Is Skyrim smaller than Cyrodil? From what I have seen it is.
Everything released says the exact opposite, that this is going to be Oblivion with less variety, less options.
I don't know. Dragons, werewolves, dual wielding, greater character customization, richer graphics and environment, better combat, and many more voice actors just to name a few things. How will there be less variety and options?
Torso and leg armor have been combined, you are no longer allowed to create your own spells, and alchemy has been "streamlined" - or so I head. Leveling up doesn't offer you choices like it used to.
If you think Oblivion was complicated, sorry, but you're probably one of the nincompoops that call Skyrim "Oblivion 2" instead of "The Elder Scrolls 5" -> you're up against a long history and a really rich community that used to be based on nerds, who are being ousted in the interests of run-and-gun style game-play.
Game will be great either way, Bethsoft doesn't fuck around. It's just not going to be the open-ended character creation we all knew and loves the TES series for.
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As was for Morrowind, and Oblivion, I will be on the fence about Skyrim until it's in my hands. I will probably love it, but for different reasons compared to Oblivion, just as I enjoyed lots of facets of Morrowind that wouldn't fit in Oblivion.
I just really, really, hope the customization, character creation, and particularly modding capability stick with the franchise, because that's what drives the community. The Elder Scrolls has a modder community like few others.
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HOpefully it can keep my attention for longer than 10 hours like Oblivion  game was a piece of shit
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Torso and leg armor have been combined, you are no longer allowed to create your own spells, and alchemy has been "streamlined" - or so I head. Leveling up doesn't offer you choices like it used to.
If you think Oblivion was complicated, sorry, but you're probably one of the nincompoops that call Skyrim "Oblivion 2" instead of "The Elder Scrolls 5" -> you're up against a long history and a really rich community that used to be based on nerds, who are being ousted in the interests of run-and-gun style game-play.
Game will be great either way, Bethsoft doesn't fuck around. It's just not going to be the open-ended character creation we all knew and loves the TES series for.
Those, to me, are rather trivial deductions compared to what will apparently be gained. I am excited to see what the new perk system has to offer. I have found the leveling systems in Morrowind and Oblivion to be quite a headache quite often. I will miss the spell creation though.
I don't know where you got that I may think that Oblivion was complicated. I think it was definitely not complicated enough in many aspects. And I haven't heard anyone call Skyrim "Oblivion 2." That is just silly. I don't think that just because someone hasn't been playing Elder Scrolls since 1994 means that they are ruining it or something.
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And I have heard lots of people call Skyrim Oblivion 2, sadly.
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Oblivion 2? Really??
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Re: SKYRIM [Re: czach]
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yeah I've heard Oblivion 2 but mostly in a joking manner on the skyrim message boards
ok so maybe it wasn't complicated but it was tedious
how many of you would jump for hours on end to level up
or to find a door you could sneak against to gain quick levels
everybody walks around, there is no need for you to gain levels in walking
reducing the number of skills should allow the player to focus more on the game and less on the skills themselves
but without being able to test the new system myself
I can only say i sounds like they are only trying to streamline the process
and make leveling more natural and less of a grind
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yeah I've heard Oblivion 2 but mostly in a joking manner on the skyrim message boards
ok so maybe it wasn't complicated but it was tedious
how many of you would jump for hours on end to level up
or to find a door you could sneak against to gain quick levels
everybody walks around, there is no need for you to gain levels in walking
reducing the number of skills should allow the player to focus more on the game and less on the skills themselves
but without being able to test the new system myself
I can only say i sounds like they are only trying to streamline the process
and make leveling more natural and less of a grind
Jesus he talked too fast. I just woke up fuck 
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Ah. Well those people will be confused when they find out that Oblivion was not the first game in the series. I think the leveling system has potential to work very well. My only concern would is that it may be too fast. We will see.
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Ah. Well those people will be confused when they find out that Oblivion was not the first game in the series. I think the leveling system has potential to work very well. My only concern would is that it may be too fast. We will see.
Hate obvlivion fan bois 
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Ah. Well those people will be confused when they find out that Oblivion was not the first game in the series. I think the leveling system has potential to work very well. My only concern would is that it may be too fast. We will see.
Hate obvlivion fan bois
To play Elder scrolls and to have never heard of Daggerfall, or Morrowind makes you unworthy
Daggerfall was epic dude. Played that shit on a Compaq Presario. Morrowind Equally epic, once again for the PC.
Oblivion was fun for an xbox game but seriously lacking what I think is worthy of an elder scrolls game.
Skyrim looks fucking sweet, a well worthy addition to the series. I told my buddy who works at play n trade to just bring it over immediately lol
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I used to get scared when I had a strong urge to play Morrowind. That game is just intimidating. But probably my favorite up to date.
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Re: SKYRIM [Re: czach]
#15336448 - 11/07/11 04:32 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Damn I want this game. But at the same time I don't want this game. My grades and social life will suffer
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HOpefully it can keep my attention for longer than 10 hours like Oblivion game was a piece of shit
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I think the leveling system has potential to work very well. My only concern would is that it may be too fast. We will see.
I think you will level faster then the previous few games
but with the increased level cap and the monster level cap
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This game is going to be a lot like Oblivion but with even more variety. Is Skyrim smaller than Cyrodil? From what I have seen it is.
Everything released says the exact opposite, that this is going to be Oblivion with less variety, less options.
I don't know. Dragons, werewolves, dual wielding, greater character customization, richer graphics and environment, better combat, and many more voice actors just to name a few things. How will there be less variety and options?
Torso and leg armor have been combined, you are no longer allowed to create your own spells, and alchemy has been "streamlined" - or so I head. Leveling up doesn't offer you choices like it used to.
If you think Oblivion was complicated, sorry, but you're probably one of the nincompoops that call Skyrim "Oblivion 2" instead of "The Elder Scrolls 5" -> you're up against a long history and a really rich community that used to be based on nerds, who are being ousted in the interests of run-and-gun style game-play.
Game will be great either way, Bethsoft doesn't fuck around. It's just not going to be the open-ended character creation we all knew and loves the TES series for.
This is VERY upsetting. The changed leveling system doesn't bother me much, in fact I think it will be an improvement, but the combined upper and lower body armors is truly a let down. One of my favorite things to do in an RPG is mix and match different armors to create a new, unique appearance. Hopefully we'll see some mods to address this, as I think a lot of fans are going to be disappointed by it. In a game revolved around freedom and being who you want to be, customizing your attire is essential...
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Luckily enchanting items has not been removed. That would be a huge disappointment. I am eager to see what that will be like in Skyrim. Hopefully there are even more options.
And I like the new look to detecting life. I will probably use it more this time around. I'd like to ask again, if anyone knows: How does Skyrim compare to Cyrodil in size?
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HOpefully it can keep my attention for longer than 10 hours like Oblivion game was a piece of shit
You are officially the most worthless person on this board
I think roughly the same size if not a little bigger but there is going to be terrain that you can't just walk over like you could in oblivion. And some areas are already leveled higher than you so you'll probably have a harder time with badies so it wilk take more time resulting in a seemingly larger area.
EDIT- lol. Above post @The_Aviator
Meant to reply to the quote as: Bump all the fucking way.
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Oh by the way people, only 2 days and 21 hours til its here..
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Luckily enchanting items has not been removed. That would be a huge disappointment. I am eager to see what that will be like in Skyrim. Hopefully there are even more options.
And I like the new look to detecting life. I will probably use it more this time around. I'd like to ask again, if anyone knows: How does Skyrim compare to Cyrodil in size?
it's supposed to be the same size as oblivion but I'm sure they will employ tricks to make it seem larger
as for crafting and enchanting here is a video,
it doesn't really show the process but it give you a pretty good idea of what to expect
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Luckily enchanting items has not been removed. That would be a huge disappointment. I am eager to see what that will be like in Skyrim. Hopefully there are even more options.
And I like the new look to detecting life. I will probably use it more this time around. I'd like to ask again, if anyone knows: How does Skyrim compare to Cyrodil in size?
it's supposed to be the same size as oblivion but I'm sure they will employ tricks to make it seem larger
as for crafting and enchanting here is a video,
it doesn't really show the process but it give you a pretty good idea of what to expect
Ill he does is guess....I could have done that
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Fuck I might have to buy this. I hope its more like elder scrolls III though
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With regard to the video cosmic posted, I like how some of the skills have been combined but I dislike how the ui looks like it was designed with a controller in mind. I wish the level locked for ai to your character, I hope this new system does not make this game incredibly easy.
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from what I've heard it doesn't necessarily lock to your level
if you go into an area at level five it may lock the area to level 10
and there is supposed to be a bigger payoff fro clearing an area higher level then yourself
in a way I like this idea,
It irritates me when I struggle in an area
so I leave and level up
only to come back and the enemies leveled up along with me
but at the same time it sucks when you are playing something like pokemon
and you are walking around at level 70+ and are still stuck fighting level 3-5 monsters
hopefully the level caps will reset a certain points
they've also said you can completely wreck a towns economy and/or legal system
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Skyrim hype is intense for me as well.
I've been playing since Morrowind and was a bit disappointed with Oblivion. From what I've seen though (leaked footage) Skyrim will be well worth the $60.
I'm using a Bosmer specializing in archery, dual daggers, stealth and alchemy.
What's everyone else doing on their first play through?
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Such a tough decision... I am mainly debating between Bosmer, Breton, and Nord. I think I am leaning toward Breton but I'm not sure yet. I'll end up deciding when I have to decide.
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Just a heads up to pc players, you can now preload off of steam.
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Skyrim broke the release date in Australia and was released today.
Bastards lol. I kid i kid
Im rather glad though that the US is releasing on friday. More epic date and it just seems like cheating to releasenit early IMO
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Im so psyched for tomorrow.
Kinda nerdy but i am going to the midnight release after class.
SO PUMPED
I really hope that they have not limited character custimization too much.
Either way I think its gonna be a great game.
AHH im gonna be playing it in 24 freakin hours!!
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Yeah im going too man. Dude i embrace my inner nerdyness with this shit man lol
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Gamespot review: http://www.gamespot.com/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim/reviews/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-review-6344618?hd=1&page=1
No number score yet. Nothing said that I wasn't already expecting.
Release date means nothing for me, as I'm saving this game for the computer. A computer that I will not have until I get a job.
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Yeah I would play on a computer but i cant afford one any time soon so im just gonna use the ole 360 and flat screen for my viewing pleasure.
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I have a conundrum. Should I wait until next weekend to get the game so I can play it back home on a 48 inch 1080i tv with weed, mushrooms, and surround sound? Or should I get it tonight/tomorrow and play it on a much smaller 1080p tv in my uncomfortable dorm room?
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I have a conundrum. Should I wait until next weekend to get the game so I can play it back home on a 48 inch 1080i tv with weed, mushrooms, and surround sound? Or should I get it tonight/tomorrow and play it on a much smaller 1080p tv in my uncomfortable dorm room?
You may want to consider playing through the first few hours of the game, and then stopping once you get to a good area for tripping. That way you'll be in a more exciting/trippy part of the game when the time comes, and you can experience the opening of the game with a clear head.
Just ordered the Collector's Edition. It was a tough decision, because I feel the package is definitely overpriced, but in the end I care enough about this game to spend the extra cash... and if I later regret it, I'll just resell for more than I paid 
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Yeah, I didn't know how big those special editions were until I saw the packaging for them at the store. 
If I had the money, I would have totally got it.
Right now I'm installing the game, and I'm pretty stoked.
By the way, out of curiosity, how many disks does the Xbox version come with?
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I have a conundrum. Should I wait until next weekend to get the game so I can play it back home on a 48 inch 1080i tv with weed, mushrooms, and surround sound? Or should I get it tonight/tomorrow and play it on a much smaller 1080p tv in my uncomfortable dorm room?
You may want to consider playing through the first few hours of the game, and then stopping once you get to a good area for tripping. That way you'll be in a more exciting/trippy part of the game when the time comes, and you can experience the opening of the game with a clear head.
Great idea, thanks for the input.
I hope everyone is enjoying the game so far. I'll probably pick it up tomorrow.
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This game looks pretty good. I played Oblivion, but I never beat it (I did all the side quests though haha)
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I'd recommend playing through Oblivion. It's good. 
As for Skyrim, I'm havin' a blast. It is a bit glitchy at times, mostly for the notorious Bethesda glitches that are common to Oblivion and Fallout  but it still is rockin' my world. 
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I know that feel. 
I can't stop playing either. And I'm also level 5, but I'm a Khajiit. So far, I'm very pleased with the game. It's got that addictive quality. 
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So far Im 3 hours into the game, and extremely impressed.
Playing on PC and the graphics are uber awesome.
Dual wield is a nice change, especially casting spells.
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Yeah, I'm not sure how many hours in I am. I've lost track.
I wish I had a PC that was nice enough to run it. If I did, I wouldn't be playing it on a PS3. 
The shouts in this game are pretty sweet. I didn't know what to expect, but I like 'em.
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Dont know how far I am right now, bout to go look for TES
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Level 11 High Elf Destro Mage Dual Wielding Conjure Sword and Fireball spells.
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between the start of the game and the first town my PS3 froze twice
this particular machine ylod on me twice so I figured this was the end
:chucktesta:
I really hate the map system in this one
and it doesn't look like this installment is built with stealth and archery in mind
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I don't care much for the map system either, particularly the world map. The local area maps are ok. And I don't think the item/spell/quest management system is very intuitive, although once I started to get the hang of it seems to work well. Outside of that I have no complaints yet.
I like the skill trees and the leveling system so far. It feels natural and I don't feel like I am trying to level up, it just comes. And I like that all skills work toward advancement regardless of your character. You really could take just about any race of character in this game and make them into any style of player if you wanted to work at it.
Oh, and the first time I looked up at the night sky and saw the auroras....
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I want to plaaaaaaay.
Instead of questing for dragons to slay this month, I'll be questing for a job >:(
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I want to plaaaaaaay.
Instead of questing for dragons to slay this month, I'll be questing for a job >:(
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https://unofficialskyrimpatch.16bugs.com/projects/7078
a bug list is being built for an unoffical skyrim patch. you can just submit any concerns, no registration or other bullshit required. helps to check it out every once in a while.
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Just picked it up!!! About to pop it in.
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Enjoy it man.
I hadn't really had the chance to play to say, so now I'm just going ape shit.
This game totally has the Bethesda Magic of being able to suck your time into a black hole. Playing the game for something that feels like one hour ends up being 3 or 4 hours. 
Has anyone done anything in the Dark Brotherhood? I just got quest to join, but I'm not sure if I should wait til' after I'm done with the main quest line because it might drastically alter the game.
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what trainer do you go to for that?
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It's a great game, but I still think they need to code in something that lets common bandits run the fuck away when they see me coming. It just doesn't feel fair. No human in their right mind would try to fight the walking tsunami of fire my character is.
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Re: SKYRIM [Re: blujay]
#15364444 - 11/13/11 02:17 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Damn, your guy is scary.
That's a cool graph too. I hear a lot of people talking about the new wave of consoles, but PC gaming isn't going anywhere. That's totally an American thing. Outside of the U.S., a majority of people play PC.
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Got it on Friday, game is completely epic. Can't wait until my time is more freed up to really get into it. I took down a giant with the help of a mastodon, then electrocuted some child in a village. Good stuff.
"Over-population the root of all Evil-brings the Elites Closer to the gates."
Makaveli, thank you for sigging this.
"Playing the game for something that feels like one hour ends up being 3 or 4 hours. "
Interesting, RPGs kinda do the opposite for me. I play for 2 hours straight with my mind fully immersed and it feels like I've been away on a mental vacation for half the day. Unfortunately, my head isn't always in the right place for gaming...but lately it has been.
PC gaming will always hold more potential (to me) as you don't have to wait half a decade for hardware upgrades. MMO's are on the rise as well, it's only a matter of time before MMO's have as much to explore and experience as the "real" Universe does. If Eve were combined with other games, upgraded physics, and some dynamic environment creation software, we would already have a small galaxy within a virtual environment. It's a bit mind blowing to think what "games" like these will be in a couple of decades. What we currently call reality, I imagine in the future will be more like a home base, an environment of familiarity to serve as a base camp for exploring virtual realms that will likely be "more real" than where we are right now.
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Yeah those classic bethesda glitches are cracking me up. Makes me miss oblivion. Nowhere near as glitchy as morrowind though. Thats what was so great about that game though lol
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Re: SKYRIM [Re: czach]
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I found my first Daedric artifact in the hour I had to play tonight - "Dawnbreaker"
The moment I heard the god-voice I was all YESSSSSSSSS. Found an object that started the quest in a cave somewhere.
:awe:
I'm liking this game from the perspective that each hour played I'm finding cool stuff. That means I'm probably gonna be beating it really quickly; but the entire time I feel my previous experience with the TES series is guiding me to such a level of win. I don't think people unaquantied with the series would have such an easy time. The level design is all the best parts of all the games crammed into one.
And the birthsigns are replaced by the stones. So you still have the Atronach style of play, just not quite as hardcore.
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Re: SKYRIM [Re: blujay]
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So much content. And excellent cave and dungeon designs. I hate playing a game and feeling like every place is the same but with parts in different orders. Skyrim is not like that.
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So I was considering to get Skyrim but I am so offended by the fact that it is a console port. Skyrim is running Direct-X 9, and I'm like what the fuck. Direct-X 11 has been out for a couple years now. I watched a high quality video of it at max settings on PC and I must say it looks good. But I could tell right away that it lacked DX11 qualities like tessellation.
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Re: SKYRIM [Re: gref]
#15369612 - 11/14/11 05:12 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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So I was considering to get Skyrim but I am so offended by the fact that it is a console port. Skyrim is running Direct-X 9, and I'm like what the fuck. Direct-X 11 has been out for a couple years now. I watched a high quality video of it at max settings on PC and I must say it looks good. But I could tell right away that it lacked DX11 qualities like tessellation.
I suspect we'll be seeing some substantial graphical modifications soon. I say buy the game. If any IP is worth your $60, it's Skyrim.
Despite the lack of DirectX 11, the PC version of the game still looks solidly better than it's console counterparts,
AND it has mod support. Bethesda is doing good by the PC gamers. Better, at least, than most developers.
If it bothers you too much, just wait for some mods and patches to be released before you pick it up.
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Re: SKYRIM [Re: gref]
#15369732 - 11/14/11 05:39 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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So I was considering to get Skyrim but I am so offended by the fact that it is a console port. Skyrim is running Direct-X 9, and I'm like what the fuck. Direct-X 11 has been out for a couple years now. I watched a high quality video of it at max settings on PC and I must say it looks good. But I could tell right away that it lacked DX11 qualities like tessellation.
Skyrim as running DX10 and that is the dumbest reason to not play a game ever. DX11 implementation is still in it's fledgling years and isn't terribly efficient. Good use of DX10 libraries produces a very beautiful game. Sure, it'd be cool if it had DX11 features such as tessellation- but if it did it would set a new precedence for implementation of that feature on such a grand scale.
Today I limited myself to playing for about an hour because I need to focus on school this week.
Found the ability to become ethereal. Negates fall damage completely, and most damage by a good %.
Game puts out like a cheap whore and loving every minute of it.
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So much content. And excellent cave and dungeon designs. I hate playing a game and feeling like every place is the same but with parts in different orders. Skyrim is not like that.
Agreed.
"And oh, what a globe it is. Unlike its 2006 predecessor The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, which at times felt like a carbon copy of Generic Fantasy Map #40192, the world of Skyrim is a Viking-inspired treasure trove of flavor and charm. Every city has its own personality. Many have their own cultures, each fraught with racial conflicts and frightening adversaries. Gone are Oblivion’s bland medieval cities and repetitive demonic gates." -Wired.com
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This game has consumed my life haha.
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This game has consumed my life haha.
If I had more time to spend with it, it would mine as well. Beyond epic. Infinite possibility.
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Fuckin polar bear kicked my ass tonight!
I did manage to take down a dragon with the help of a giant and a mammoth while I was only level 11. That was pretty epic. Then I proceeded to piss off the giant and he booted me into orbit!
I do like how the world map shows which areas have been cleared. That always frustrated me with Oblivion, never remembering where I had been. After the hundreds of hours I put into Oblivion I'm sure theres still at least one dungeon/cave that I missed.
But Skyrim just gets better and better the more I play it.
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I do like how the world map shows which areas have been cleared. That always frustrated me with Oblivion, never remembering where I had been. After the hundreds of hours I put into Oblivion I'm sure theres still at least one dungeon/cave that I missed.
Fog of war type mod to come in the future perhaps?
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Then I proceeded to piss off the giant and he booted me into orbit!
You weren't exaggerating...I just got whacked and laughed my ass off for a good 30 seconds. Hilarity.
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Then I proceeded to piss off the giant and he booted me into orbit!
You weren't exaggerating...I just got whacked and laughed my ass off for a good 30 seconds. Hilarity.
Someone make a video
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Yes. Please do make a video. I have not been on here like I was due to this game lol.
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Re: SKYRIM [Re: blujay]
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blujay said:
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So I was considering to get Skyrim but I am so offended by the fact that it is a console port. Skyrim is running Direct-X 9, and I'm like what the fuck. Direct-X 11 has been out for a couple years now. I watched a high quality video of it at max settings on PC and I must say it looks good. But I could tell right away that it lacked DX11 qualities like tessellation.
Skyrim as running DX10 and that is the dumbest reason to not play a game ever. DX11 implementation is still in it's fledgling years and isn't terribly efficient. Good use of DX10 libraries produces a very beautiful game. Sure, it'd be cool if it had DX11 features such as tessellation- but if it did it would set a new precedence for implementation of that feature on such a grand scale.
Today I limited myself to playing for about an hour because I need to focus on school this week.
Found the ability to become ethereal. Negates fall damage completely, and most damage by a good %.
Game puts out like a cheap whore and loving every minute of it.
Skyrim is running Direct-X 9 not DX10.
http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/10/26/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-system-requirements-released-render-giant-spiders-on-2gb-ram/
The recommended system requirements say only DX9. If it were running DX10, the recommended requirements would most definitely say DX10.
According to this steam thread Skyrim is using DX9.
http://forums.steamgames.com/forums/showthread.php?p=26145987
In this page that has snippets of an interview with Todd Howard himself says Skyrim is using DX9; However, he implies that full DX11 features might be implemented in the future.
http://www.neoseeker.com/news/16248-skyrim-looks-the-same-on-pc-dx11-support-could-come-later/
Yeah I understand that there are a lot of graphic mods already out, but they are only minor improvements. A full-fledged DX11 overhaul would be groundbreaking. I'm going to get the game nevertheless because I have read a lot of reviews and everyone is praising it.
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Re: SKYRIM [Re: gref]
#15377585 - 11/16/11 04:18 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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I'm really enjoying it so far and I've got to say that it's my favorite elder scrolls game since Morrowind. I just wish the graphics and possibly the game as a whole weren't held back by six year old technology and the GUI is pretty rough at least on pc, but mods will probably fix my gripes with the game eventually.
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yah the game is pretty fun, and overall things seem unique which was a major flaw for oblivion. However the GUI/menu's ect is a fucking disgrace and a major disrespect to pc gamers, it screams port. I mean seriously they didn't spend 1 second thinking about pc gamers and thats enough reason for me to not buy it. Might as well play the dam thing on a console since thats what it was designed for.
also of note does the perspective seem a bit off to anyone? it seems like in first person things are way to zoomed in, the depth of field seems off. I noticed when i zoom out to 3rd person the game actually looks and feels better and is much easier on the eye's and for seeing/detecting items and stuff, however i don't like playing in third person i wish i could just zoom out a bit without seeing my guy. My impression from this is that it was designed for a tv not a computer monitor
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yah the game is pretty fun, and overall things seem unique which was a major flaw for oblivion. However the GUI/menu's ect is a fucking disgrace and a major disrespect to pc gamers, it screams port. I mean seriously they didn't spend 1 second thinking about pc gamers and thats enough reason for me to not buy it. Might as well play the dam thing on a console since thats what it was designed for.
also of note does the perspective seem a bit off to anyone? it seems like in first person things are way to zoomed in, the depth of field seems off. I noticed when i zoom out to 3rd person the game actually looks and feels better and is much easier on the eye's and for seeing/detecting items and stuff, however i don't like playing in third person i wish i could just zoom out a bit without seeing my guy. My impression from this is that it was designed for a tv not a computer monitor
Get a real set up then nugah
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well my 19 inch lcd has worked fine for years, its these recent pos ports like bf3 and skryim the perspective is all tweaked out for tv's. I could hull my 100pound computer downstairs but then i wouldn't be able to walk afterwords and it kind of negates the whole point to pc gaming when u have to use your couch as a mousepad
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19" is your problem right there. Its native resolution im guessing is 1440x900. Skyrim prob wants to be run on at least 1680x1050
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I recently hooked up my computer to a 42 inch hdtv. The tv has a small stand and is able to sit on my desk, I will never go back to using 20inch monitors. You may be able to crank the resolution up higher, but the increased real estate of the tvs is worth it.
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Today im going to drop $400 on my credit card for a PS3 and this game 
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Just eviscerate some bandits and take their gold, and you'll feel better about spending money.
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Today im going to drop $400 on my credit card for a PS3 and this game
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Re: SKYRIM [Re: gref]
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gref said:
So I was considering to get Skyrim but I am so offended by the fact that it is a console port. Skyrim is running Direct-X 9, and I'm like what the fuck. Direct-X 11 has been out for a couple years now. I watched a high quality video of it at max settings on PC and I must say it looks good. But I could tell right away that it lacked DX11 qualities like tessellation.
Skyrim as running DX10 and that is the dumbest reason to not play a game ever. DX11 implementation is still in it's fledgling years and isn't terribly efficient. Good use of DX10 libraries produces a very beautiful game. Sure, it'd be cool if it had DX11 features such as tessellation- but if it did it would set a new precedence for implementation of that feature on such a grand scale.
Today I limited myself to playing for about an hour because I need to focus on school this week.
Found the ability to become ethereal. Negates fall damage completely, and most damage by a good %.
Game puts out like a cheap whore and loving every minute of it.
Skyrim is running Direct-X 9 not DX10.
http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/10/26/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-system-requirements-released-render-giant-spiders-on-2gb-ram/
The recommended system requirements say only DX9. If it were running DX10, the recommended requirements would most definitely say DX10.
According to this steam thread Skyrim is using DX9.
http://forums.steamgames.com/forums/showthread.php?p=26145987
In this page that has snippets of an interview with Todd Howard himself says Skyrim is using DX9; However, he implies that full DX11 features might be implemented in the future.
http://www.neoseeker.com/news/16248-skyrim-looks-the-same-on-pc-dx11-support-could-come-later/
Yeah I understand that there are a lot of graphic mods already out, but they are only minor improvements. A full-fledged DX11 overhaul would be groundbreaking. I'm going to get the game nevertheless because I have read a lot of reviews and everyone is praising it.
As a programmer, I could care less about what graphic library was used to achieve an end product, if the end product is impressive regardless.
I am surprised and impressed that this is a DX9 game, and would have never guessed. You're nitpicking. There is more to graphics than that. The overall artistic direction of the entire thing is very visually appealing, so much so I played for ten hours with stars in my eyes before I started to notice the bigger flaws the game does have.
Many of those flaws will be modded out. Particularly spell damage, the ability to wear two rings. The UI will be cracked eventually and we'll get something like the DarN UI (who is working on it as we speak).
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19" is your problem right there. Its native resolution im guessing is 1440x900. Skyrim prob wants to be run on at least 1680x1050
Game supports all resolutions including 16:9 from my launcher, here.
It's well known that 16:9 resolutions usually need a modified FOV, which can be done easily with the console ingame. Not sure what setting you need, my 16:10 monitor as never needed FOV changes.
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Re: SKYRIM [Re: blujay]
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blujay, I love your avatar, haha.
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my screen is 4:3 aka square and game is running at 1280x1024, since zooming out fixes my problem that leaves me thinking the problem is they designed it for a bigger screen. I even get that dizzy headache feeling sometimes, that i typically only got with older cheap made fps's. Again i had this same problem with bf3, yet i don't recall having this problem for a very very long time before that so its very confusing. I think another part of it and a similar thing with bf3 is the colors/textures seem very similar so it all blends it, so i think that combined with i "guess" a small screen based on todays standards or aka "console tv standards" it makes detecting changes in rocks and such harder.
Still even with a bigger screen the size of things would scale up together, now while thinking of that doesn't it seem stairs and shit seem WAY bigger than they should be? Its like just 1 click back on the mousewheel is perfect, but where its at things just do not look right
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I just cant wait to get home and rent this game. If I bought it when it came out, I wouldn't be studying for any of my exams.
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Wish I could experience all the mods, but no pc
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Re: SKYRIM [Re: czach]
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Re: SKYRIM [Re: blujay]
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bought it, installing now.
I did a little happy dance just now
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You mean field of view and you can change that. Heres a link illustrating how. http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/11/11/getting-skyrim-skytrim/
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ah thanks i will try that later
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Lvl 29 Arch Mage, Listener of Dark Brotherhood. 1 Handed Destro enchanter werewolf high elf nuggggaaaa
Dude I can't stop playing. Dark Brotherhood was amazing!! Loved how they brought back a ton of Dark Brotherhood stuff from Oblivion.
ON TO THE DAEDRIC ARTIFACT QUESTS!!!
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Only at level 8 right now. I'm doing a nord two-hander swinging brute. I love the animations for the melee in this game. So much better than oblivion.
I also think that the dungeon design is light years ahead of oblivion too. Ever one has felt unique.
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I also think that the dungeon design is light years ahead of oblivion too. Ever one has felt unique.
Agree. And they did a great job of putting an exit at the end of every dungeon. I hate clearing out a dungeon and then having to backtrack through several levels just to get out. So far in Skyrim theres always a shortcut back out from the end.
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This game is just too epic to talk about anymore, words can not describe/do it justice in the least. Im a level 18 and I literally have not even scratched the surface of the surface.
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SWKYRIM!!!!
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Just got the game for the xbox 360 never ventured into these games on consoles, there are a lot of ugly low res textures but not enough to make the game extremely fun to play. Found some water glitches also where you can see land and no water but the water is still there. There are minor things I noticed like you actually feel involved in conversations this time and cities feel more full of life. Plus I got my assed owned by a Dwarven guardian.
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Nevermiind the low res comment, apparently installing skyrim on the 360 causes low res textures.
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Nevermiind the low res comment, apparently installing skyrim on the 360 causes low res textures.
Yeah, go figure
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I installed it to reduce loading times and started wandering and was wondering why moss looked likesomeone threw green paint at the wall and why rocks etc looked like paper mache, hopefully the patch comes soon.
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i wanna get this for ps3 but every site ive read reviews on including the bethesda forums, says that people are having horrible lag issues tied to the size of the save file. Any one here playing on ps3?
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rawr
I'm playing on master. Game is still not too hard though, but some parts are. One of the most fun games I've played in awhile for sure.
I think my post/day count is going to go way down over the next few weeks.
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Quote:
Olympus Mons said:
i wanna get this for ps3 but every site I've read reviews on including the bethesda forums, says that people are having horrible lag issues tied to the size of the save file. Any one here playing on ps3?
I'm on the PS3
in fact it's a phat 80g that YLoDed on me twice
I've had no problems running this game
(except I had to make some room for the required 5.5g install)
you will occasionally get a brief hiccup, screen tearing, or texture pop in
but only when you cross the invisible border between areas
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i also have the big 80G and i havent had a single issue out of it in about 7 or so years. Also i was looking for black friday sales but i dont think anyone will have skyrim discounted so should i just get it now? I'll be kind of mad if it actually does go on sale haha.
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Some funny Skyrim videos
Horse glitch
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Re: SKYRIM [Re: gref]
#15401902 - 11/21/11 10:34 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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is there a way you can summon your horse? fucker runs away anytime there's trouble.
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blujay
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Quote:
Olympus Mons said:
i wanna get this for ps3 but every site ive read reviews on including the bethesda forums, says that people are having horrible lag issues tied to the size of the save file. Any one here playing on ps3?
A single-player game has lag issues?
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Re: SKYRIM [Re: blujay]
#15402792 - 11/21/11 02:30 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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yeah
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Re: SKYRIM [Re: blujay]
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Quote:
blujay said:
Quote:
Olympus Mons said:
i wanna get this for ps3 but every site ive read reviews on including the bethesda forums, says that people are having horrible lag issues tied to the size of the save file. Any one here playing on ps3?
A single-player game has lag issues?
pretty sure he's talking about drops in frame rate.
Edited by gref (11/21/11 03:50 PM)
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Re: SKYRIM [Re: gref]
#15403838 - 11/21/11 06:05 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Well I managed to catch vampirism, It's been happeneing to me since Morrowind and everytime there is a different way to get rid of the damn shit, this time around you have to ask about rumors in Pubs/Inns so they can point you to some guy studying the disease.
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I have caught "sanguinare vampiris" twice now. But I've nipped it in the bud both times since I've become accustomed to checking regularly to see if I've picked up diseases. Seems like I am contracting diseases all the time in Skyrim, much more then Oblivion. Even wolves and skeevers often give me some kind of disease in Skyrim.
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Quote:
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is there a way you can summon your horse? fucker runs away anytime there's trouble.
Yeah, I haven't had much use for a horse in Skyrim. Didn't hardly ever use one in Oblivion either. They always just end up dead or lost when you get into a fight. And unlike Red Dead Redemption there is no way to call them back to you.
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Do the Dark Brotherhood quests.
Near the end youll get Shadowmere, with huge health and
super fast regen, and he'll help ya kill enemies.
Plus, he respawns with you everytime you fast travel.
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Quote:
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Do the Dark Brotherhood quests.
Near the end youll get Shadowmere, with huge health and
super fast regen, and he'll help ya kill enemies.
Plus, he respawns with you everytime you fast travel.
That's Oblivion you're talking about just so you know.
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I have caught "sanguinare vampiris" twice now. But I've nipped it in the bud both times since I've become accustomed to checking regularly to see if I've picked up diseases. Seems like I am contracting diseases all the time in Skyrim, much more then Oblivion. Even wolves and skeevers often give me some kind of disease in Skyrim.
Apparently you can cure the vampire disease with a common cure disease if you use it as soon as you get it.
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is there a way you can summon your horse? fucker runs away anytime there's trouble.
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Actually, Im playing Skyrim and have
Shadowmere here as well.
JUST SO YOU KNOW
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Downloading now got a best buy gift card for buying a x-mas present 
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31 female wood elf using archery and dual wield.
I basically just stand in the back while my shield maiden tanks and I just rip through shit with my bow.
Like a bawss.
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Re: SKYRIM [Re: Joolz]
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Got this for PC last week, have been terribly busy and haven't really had time to fuck around with it.
Had noticed some pretty bad freezes in the open world, but just downloaded a private patch this morning and got it fixed.
My first off day in like two weeks. I have some things to do, but I'm probably just going to drink screwdrivers and play Skyrim all day.
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He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Aeschylus
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I am addicted. Fo real nuggas
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Re: SKYRIM [Re: czach]
#15439407 - 11/29/11 10:51 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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All the plots were really short. I haven't done companions, but it's probably like a half dozen quests max.
I miss the huge arching plots of Morrowind. My character farts, and he's Arch Mage.
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Re: SKYRIM [Re: blujay]
#15439662 - 11/29/11 12:23 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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anyone worried about those ps3 issues, they put out a patch that should fix it all now.
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Was this a common problem?
My girlfriend has been playing Skyrim in the living room on the PS3 for like three days straight and she hasn't complained about any issues.
And she's usually quick to complain about shit.
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If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it. In the law courts, in business, in government. There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent. -Cormac MacCarthy
He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Aeschylus
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I haven't noticed any problems and my PS3 ylod twice
the save file was pretty massive though
the patch took care of that
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this game just keeps getting better and better
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this game just keeps getting better and better
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Re: SKYRIM [Re: trekie]
#15445077 - 11/30/11 03:42 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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epic game. Addicted to it when I rented it, now I have to go buy it.
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is it worth finding the 30 red nirnroots?
I wondered into this dungeon as part of the main quest but now I don't want to leave with only 10 nirnroots found
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found a bug where a dragon doesnt attack... it flied like it was having a seizure, then jammed mid-air and started flying backwards. i swear it was a scene out of "the exorcist". couldn't attack it either.
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I have this bug where Ulfric and that Stonefist general dude of the Stromcloaks are attacking me for no reason and all the stormcloaks guards are not. I can't do anything to make them stop attacking me; this bug ruins a whole main quest line.
Skyrim is fun as hell but it should've been released a couple months later, it's littered with WAY too many bugs.
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Re: SKYRIM [Re: gref]
#15447729 - 12/01/11 01:21 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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wow skyrim is insane, what a great game... too bad you cant shoot arrows from the horse. how lame..
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Quote:
CosmicFool said:
is it worth finding the 30 red nirnroots?
I wondered into this dungeon as part of the main quest but now I don't want to leave with only 10 nirnroots found
I found like 8 and just stopped. I told myself I would do that quest on my next playthrough.
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Quote:
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found a bug where a dragon doesnt attack... it flied like it was having a seizure, then jammed mid-air and started flying backwards. i swear it was a scene out of "the exorcist". couldn't attack it either.
That is a problem I have been hearing about with the new patch.
Apparently the patch is causing other issues and bugs.
Something I found on reddit which made me laugh.
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I haven't had any game ruining bugs, just odd freakouts where the characters get stuck and I have to hit them to get them out. Once in a while the guards in Makaroth freak out on me and try to pummel me for murder and treason for no reason.
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Quote:
Once in a while the guards cops in Makaroth wall street freak out on me and try to pummel me for murder and treason for no reason.
fixed
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Quote:
CosmicFool said:
is it worth finding the 30 red nirnroots?
I wondered into this dungeon as part of the main quest but now I don't want to leave with only 10 nirnroots found
Not really, you get a stupid book on nirnroots and a active spell that gives you a 25% chance to duplicate a potion.
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Sounds interesting, and some of the crazy potions out there require red nirns.
25 sounds a lot easier than 100 scattered all over the fucking state.
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You can only find them in the one huge ass Dwemer ruin and you need to find 30. Think you didn't get what I said lol.
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Re: SKYRIM [Re: czach]
#15470172 - 12/05/11 05:28 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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I stopped playing my file with a level 40 Breton that sided with the Stormcloaks. I specialized in one-handed, restoration, and heavy armor.
Now I'm going to be an evil high elf that sides with the Empire. I'm going to join the dark brotherhood and thieves guild this time through. Should be interesting.
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MushroomHaven
Capi-Tan
Registered: 05/06/09
Posts: 779
Last seen: 1 month, 3 days
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Just bought this and a new 360 slim 250 gb... Needless to say, you wont be seeing me on here for a few days!!!
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unknown1123
Experimental
Registered: 05/15/08
Posts: 4,464
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Anyone want to trade me their skyrim for my BF3. Xbox 360 only.
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Madtowntripper
Sun-Beams out of Cucumbers
Registered: 03/06/03
Posts: 21,279
Loc: The Ocean of Notions
Last seen: 10 days, 12 hours
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Hah.
I've been trying to trade my copy of BF3 that my girlfriend accidentally bought for me on Black Friday for MW3 for like two weeks on Craigslist.
Still no takers.
Sucks. What a shit game.
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If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it. In the law courts, in business, in government. There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent. -Cormac MacCarthy
He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Aeschylus
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unknown1123
Experimental
Registered: 05/15/08
Posts: 4,464
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Not that its a shit game, I just will be going home for break and wont have live so I'd rather have Skyrim. I Can trade back. I guess it'd be like an extended rent/swap/give back whenever we agree on it.
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Liquid_Dimension
Lighthousekeeper
Registered: 02/15/04
Posts: 4,245
Loc: Radioactive state
Last seen: 6 days, 15 hours
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I downloaded the skyrim soundtrack recently,4 discs! so epic.
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unknown1123
Experimental
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Quote:
Liquid_Dimension said:
I downloaded the skyrim soundtrack recently,4 discs! so epic.
on xbox man
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ToTheSummit
peregrinus
Registered: 08/23/99
Posts: 8,874
Loc: Las Vegas
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Re: SKYRIM [Re: czach]
#15487034 - 12/08/11 06:50 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Does anyone besides me like to use the "Ritual Stone" power? Once a day you can use it to raise all the dead around you. It is awesome for some of the big battles at the end of many dungeons where you face a boss who first throws a bunch of underlings at you. I think I have raise as many as a dozen Drugar to help me finish off a boss.
Its comical to step back and watch them all mob the boss while I walk around leisurely and start looting corpses!
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CosmicFool
Psychoholic
Registered: 05/14/06
Posts: 7,269
Loc: 203
Last seen: 21 hours, 20 minutes
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I do the same thing,
or I'll raise an army of chickens to do my bidding
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b0red5tiff
NWO Disinformation Agent
Registered: 09/16/06
Posts: 18,447
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Quote:
CosmicFool said:
I do the same thing,
or I'll raise an army of chickens to do my bidding
try doing the zombie spell on a dead bunny 
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PuffmastaL
regnartS
Registered: 08/10/11
Posts: 90
Last seen: 1 year, 4 months
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i was playing skyrim yesterday on 3 grams of dried psilocybe cyanescens, (extremly intense trip). I started to look around my house and i felt like i was my character which is a purple argonian, and i was on a mission 2 eat the souls of dragons hahah wat an amaing time
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CosmicFool
Psychoholic
Registered: 05/14/06
Posts: 7,269
Loc: 203
Last seen: 21 hours, 20 minutes
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I was walking through the woods the other day and caught myself looking for alchemy ingredients
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b0red5tiff
NWO Disinformation Agent
Registered: 09/16/06
Posts: 18,447
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btw i find alchemy as useless as cooking... i have Fast Healing and health potions i find among the way so cooking is really pointless imo
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Joolz
Registered: 09/19/10
Posts: 3,614
Last seen: 6 months, 19 days
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I level alchemy just because it inevitably leads to more overall levels and perks. Cooking is fucking retarded. Either that or I missed the part that make it awesome.
I haven't gotten to play much in the past week. Pretty lame. I'm gonna fuck the gf dry then begin drinking and shmoking tonight off work. Gonna pound in like 4 or 5 hours on my archer bitch.
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