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Re: "Welfare"......stop complaining [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #15122844 - 09/23/11 03:43 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

pris to the rescue!!!



:smirk:


IMA gonna get me some disability monies for being a nutcase



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Re: "Welfare"......stop complaining [Re: Notwoodyallen]
    #15122852 - 09/23/11 03:46 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

If you do not have a job and are not looking for work, starve to death. With the debt as it is, the country cannot afford to support a bunch of lazy assholes. If you are injured, fine, take your money. Just need a little to get by this month? fine, take it. Immigrant new to the country and already trying to take government money? go fuck yourself.


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Re: "Welfare"......stop complaining [Re: Trypppy]
    #15122859 - 09/23/11 03:47 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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Trypppy said:
If you do not have a job and are not looking for work, starve to death. With the debt as it is, the country cannot afford to support a bunch of lazy assholes..



BOO FUCKING HOO



maybe they should stop arresting everyone for smoking pot and funding bullshit wars against the people


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Re: "Welfare"......stop complaining [Re: Notwoodyallen] * 2
    #15122895 - 09/23/11 03:57 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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Notwoodyallen said:

I do have OCD pretty bad, I know I couldn't support myself. It's a sake of argument thing, even if I was healed I'd try to get it.




hahahaha... OCD is a disability? fuckin' hell... I'd open a janitorial
company and provide the best service available, I'd hire only those with
OCD to work for me, watch how fast it grows, I'd be a millionaire

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I wanna grow, not work.




so grow... whatcha gonna do after you grow?


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Buffet got a billion just by propping up a bank.  That isn't work, he didn't deserve it.




buffet owes a billion in taxes, buffet also risked his money, it was a gamble, maybe you should try gambling

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I think I've explained myself thoroughly.




I think not... your shit is too scattered and incomprehensible, rife with
grammar and spelling mistakes, are you sure you're qualified for a job at
McDonalds?

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That money you pay isn't yous, it's the citizens, and if you have an issue with people with money getting some handed to those who don't, then fuck you.




THERE'S NO NEED FOR THIS SORT OF SHIT


how is my money that I work for yours?


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I wanna grow. The system is stacked against me, why shouldn't I leach?




so fucking grow already

and the system isnt the problem, you've already admitted that any excuse
is as good as another to avoid work and suck the welfare tit


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Re: "Welfare"......stop complaining [Re: Hologram]
    #15122902 - 09/23/11 03:59 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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Hologram said:
IMA gonna get me some disability monies for being a nutcase





junkie isnt nutcase


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Re: "Welfare"......stop complaining [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #15122915 - 09/23/11 04:01 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

they dont know that first part


bet i get approved


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Re: "Welfare"......stop complaining [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #15122918 - 09/23/11 04:02 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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I think I've explained myself thoroughly.




I think not... your shit is too scattered and incomprehensible, rife with
grammar and spelling mistakes, are you sure you're qualified for a job at
McDonalds?




:lolsy:
You'd think someone with such bad OCD wouldn't have such poor grammar.


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Re: "Welfare"......stop complaining [Re: abltsandwich]
    #15122922 - 09/23/11 04:03 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

:eatadick:


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Re: "Welfare"......stop complaining [Re: Notwoodyallen]
    #15122927 - 09/23/11 04:04 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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Notwoodyallen said:
I dislike private buisines




so you're all about the state run businesses, like the post office who
charges as much 5x the amount that private business do to ship a package
and somehow they're still going under while the others are thriving



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can you say this in some clear form, if you're referring to welfare
recipients, there's millions that are welfare 'lifers', it's how they
choose to live because they dont have to give, they just keep getting

Getting chicken feed. Soc barely pays anything. These lifers, many are like my dad was who was so sick he couldn't work. It's hard getting on, and like I said





getting chicken feed for doing nothing and they keep getting and getting and getting


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Re: [Re: Bundy]
    #15122963 - 09/23/11 04:11 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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pwnasaurus said:
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Bundy said:
I get disability benefits. ( start flamming me now ) and where I'm from I get 717$ a month, out of a possible 1,000$ a month. But here in New York your benefits reflect how much you have worked in your life. I worked from 14-19. 2 years of that was summer jobs, until I decided I hated the school system and went to work instead because the money I was making was MUCH better than an education. lol. I was making 2200 a month at 16 so school wasn't for me. I still got my GED though. Anyway.. off topic.

717 here isn't shit either. I live in the projects because they are income based, I deal with people who ARE taking advantage of the wel-fare system. I've got a black guy next door, with his fat white wife, and 4 kids, and he sits outside all day long drinking booze, and adding shit to his 94 honda dx, which looks like shit ANYWAY.

but then there is a handful of us here in the projects that aren't able to work, and we are hardly getting by.

My rent is 236 a month, my electricity is 60 a month, my car insurance is 100 a month, food is about 200 a month and my phone and internet is 60 a month. That leaves me around 60 dollars a month of left over money.
:facepalm:

I miss working. I miss my 2200 a month. I miss having a nice apartment, and a car payment with a car that's actually worth a damn.

The government though needs to stop complaining. The prison's are costing almost triple what's going out to people on disability.
Take out the people in prison who are there for marijuana alone, and we might be even.

So to all the republicans that bitch about those of us on wel-fare/disability whatever you wish to call it who actually need it, shut the fuck up. Your money is going to a lot worse, and what does it take out of your paycheck anyway? Take a look at your next pay stub. I live in New York where taxes are one of the top 3 states for highest taxes, and on a paystab ( one of mine anyway from when I was making bank ) I was only paying in like 10$ to social security.




I hate to break it to you dude, but $2200/month is pretty awful.  That's like $25k/year.  And since you had no education getting that position, chances are you could never have gone up from that, or at least not far.  You gotta be making at least like $50-60k/year without kids to be comfortable IMO.




It all depends on where you live. Rent here is only 650 for a 2 bedroom without section 8 projects/housing.

My mom only made 28k a year, and raised me and my sister on her own. Bills were rarely late, car payment was on time, food in the fridge, etc.



Does she own a house?  Is she going to be able to retire at/before 65?  Does she have ANY money saved up?  The answer to these questions is almost certainly a resounding "no".

Not trying to hate on your mom or anything, I'm sure she did great for you guys with what she had, but you cannot actually expect to save any money on that kind of a salary with two kids.


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Re: "Welfare"......stop complaining [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #15122980 - 09/23/11 04:14 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Corperate welfar is foolish, as are things like corn subsidies. The other things like soc are important. That's what the government shoud do, because there is plenty, plenty rotting in the coffers of the very rich. It isn't all a money game, i's where it goes and why. Going to millions in Soc, it's hard to egulate and probably costs a ton to have all those shitty people go over every aspect of your shitty existance for a quarter of what it takes to live out of section 8. There arn't places here to live for under 500 a month rent. There are no jobs, this is Muskegon, swamp shit city. For what soc does, it is cheep. People take a bit to keep, you know, alive, and there arn't always these magical full time jobs everywhere that keep everyone happy. Plus, my eight hours sleep, eight a day at work, when do we get to revel in our lives? We're here, then we die, who the fuck is everyone else to judge and allow starve those who's destiny isn't behind a desk, grill, or cash register? Fuck the money, I'm for a loving existence for ll people, if it's all dollar and cents, well, people let it be that way. Nothing is written in stone, people are just in the box of lies still.


If you do not have a job and are not looking for work, starve to death. With the debt as it is, the country cannot afford to support a bunch of lazy assholes. If you are injured, fine, take your money. Just need a little to get by this month? fine, take it. Immigrant new to the country and already trying to take government money? go fuck yourself.

See, people like YOU are the entitled ones. You don't get starving. I never have, but without mom, oh I would be. I wish everyone had one, but that statement there is grotesque, and you are a piece of straight up dookie for it. So, because I don't wanna go, put myself out therer to loose 8 hours a day for a bit of paper that has about as much value as, well, it's a lie of value. This is a rug sight with a bunch of welfare haters. Hating on the hippies and those who really started places like this, really. Noone should starve, there IS plenty, I'd gladly take a portion cut for my fellow man. Maybe not if he doesn't come off as an unsympathetic jerk who doesn't know the pain of starvation, and can't get the weight of existence in a world of weak people who throw around "it's just the way iy is" like it's gospal. itself and how it draggs even strong and smart men down, let alone the rest of us.

Also, withoubt that debt there would be little that would keep say, China from attacking us. We own them, they own us. The debt is genious as long as we don't default. Perpetual growth is unsustainable anyway, nothing can do that, that's an unrealistic goal


What Hologram said

how is my money that I work for yours?
Well, we are all each other, you pay it in taxes, it's everyones then. That statement is just self rightious BS bitterness from having to work, as well as lack of compassion for those who just exist(Most people). So, to exist I must work for whoever I find in the thin job market, when I think most private enterprise is a time wasting crock? No thank you.

Growing takes $, I will soon if I can, thanks to maybe your money.

hahahaha... OCD is a disability? fuckin' hell... I'd open a janitorial
company and provide the best service available, I'd hire only those with
OCD to work for me, watch how fast it grows, I'd be a millionaire


Good job being dumb.. OCD is not that at all. I have mental blocks, opening and closing doors, always checking things. It becomes painful and embarassing. Imaging taking two hours to shower and scrubbing raw, every day. Soap is expensive, and it takes a bar every time.


buffet owes a billion in taxes, buffet also risked his money, it was a gamble, maybe you should try gambling
We have a system full of it. It's stupid. I'm not into the risk buisiness. Money isn't a game, they shouldn't treat it as such. Who SHOULD have a billion anyway? I'm not god, I don't deserve that kind of wealth. It's stupid, noone does, not even him.

so grow... whatcha gonna do after you grow
It's more of a dream, I know it'll take 'work', you're just pulling out smart ass shit^.

I believe in spreading the wealth. Hell, let people who do work make more, noone needs to be the dirt at the bottom though, not in this day and age.


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Re: "Welfare"......stop complaining [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #15122981 - 09/23/11 04:14 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Corperate welfar is foolish, as are things like corn subsidies. The other things like soc are important. That's what the government shoud do, because there is plenty, plenty rotting in the coffers of the very rich. It isn't all a money game, i's where it goes and why. Going to millions in Soc, it's hard to egulate and probably costs a ton to have all those shitty people go over every aspect of your shitty existance for a quarter of what it takes to live out of section 8. There arn't places here to live for under 500 a month rent. There are no jobs, this is Muskegon, swamp shit city. For what soc does, it is cheep. People take a bit to keep, you know, alive, and there arn't always these magical full time jobs everywhere that keep everyone happy. Plus, my eight hours sleep, eight a day at work, when do we get to revel in our lives? We're here, then we die, who the fuck is everyone else to judge and allow starve those who's destiny isn't behind a desk, grill, or cash register? Fuck the money, I'm for a loving existence for ll people, if it's all dollar and cents, well, people let it be that way. Nothing is written in stone


If you do not have a job and are not looking for work, starve to death. With the debt as it is, the country cannot afford to support a bunch of lazy assholes. If you are injured, fine, take your money. Just need a little to get by this month? fine, take it. Immigrant new to the country and already trying to take government money? go fuck yourself.

See, people like YOU are the entitled ones. You don't get starving. I never have, but without mom, oh I would be. I wish everyone had one, but that statement there is grotesque, and you are a piece of straight up dookie for it. So, because I don't wanna go, put myself out therer to loose 8 hours a day for a bit of paper that has about as much value as, well, it's a lie of value. This is a rug sight with a bunch of welfare haters. Hating on the hippies and those who really started places like this, really. Noone should starve, there IS plenty, I'd gladly take a portion cut for my fellow man. Maybe not if he doesn't come off as an unsympathetic jerk who doesn't know the pain of starvation, and can't get the weight of existence in a world of weak people who throw around "it's just the way iy is" like it's gospal. itself and how it draggs even strong and smart men down. Ya, you are probably a kid or a bitter old fart.

Also, withoubt that debt there would be little that would keep say, China from attacking us. We own them, they own us. The debt is genious as long as we don't default. Perpetual growth is unsustainable anyway, nothing can do that, that's an unrealistic goal


What Hologram said

how is my money that I work for yours?
Well, we are all each other, you pay it in taxes, it's everyones then. That statement is just self rightious BS bitterness from having to work, as well as lack of compassion for those who just exist(Most people). So, to exist I must work for whoever I find in the thin job market, when I think most private enterprise is a time wasting crock? No thank you.

Growing takes $, I will soon if I can, thanks to maybe your money.

hahahaha... OCD is a disability? fuckin' hell... I'd open a janitorial
company and provide the best service available, I'd hire only those with
OCD to work for me, watch how fast it grows, I'd be a millionaire


Good job being dumb.. OCD is not that at all. I have mental blocks, opening and closing doors, always checking things. It becomes painful and embarassing. Imaging taking two hours to shower and scrubbing raw, every day. Soap is expensive, and it takes a bar every time.


buffet owes a billion in taxes, buffet also risked his money, it was a gamble, maybe you should try gambling
We have a system full of it. It's stupid. I'm not into the risk buisiness. Money isn't a game, they shouldn't treat it as such. Who SHOULD have a billion anyway? I'm not god, I don't deserve that kind of wealth. It's stupid, noone does, not even him.

so grow... whatcha gonna do after you grow
It's more of a dream, I know it'll take 'work', you're just pulling out smart ass shit^.

I believe in spreading the wealth. Hell, let people who do work make more, noone needs to be the dirt at the bottom though, not in this day and age.


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Re: "Welfare"......stop complaining [Re: Almond Flour]
    #15122987 - 09/23/11 04:15 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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Ethnobotanical said:
So i got back from the welfare office the other day. My pregnant fiance wanted to see if she could get some support since she recently got laid off. I was resistant at first, but then figured may as well take advantage if able before the republicans get back in office :yesnod:


First off the line was HUGE, as i entered the door the security guard started howling at us all for being lazy, and how we should go get jobs on Craigslist. While waiting in the big ass line, this crazy ass racist white chick turns around to me and says "Thank god there are some other white people here" :bored: After ignoring her insanity and the awkwardness she was creating it was time to sit down and wait to be called.

While waiting I had a look around the room. There were quite a few people who were seriously injured. There was some guy who looked like a combat vet of sorts limping around with a cane, and an ex gang member who was probably paralyzed from being shot. There was a women with severe schizophrenia, who had no problem telling us about her institutionalized experiences. Bottom line these were people who needed to be there, and making me feel like shit being an able bodied young male in the same room.

We get taken back for review after 2.5 hours. Just as I thought I make too much for us to receive ANY aid. Just for a laugh though I asked a little about the max award for those who qualify? :strokebeard:


Get ready

GET READY FOR HOW MUCH THE IMMIGRANTS ARE STEALING

GET READY FOR ALL THE TAX DOLLARS BEING SPENT ON EACH LAZY PERSON INSIDE THAT OFFICE :rolleyes:



$345 a MONTH! In fucking southern california  :Awemazing:




.......my point is that $345 a month isnt shit :commonsense:! Im sorry but thats not even enough for a room down here. Thats hardly enough for gas and groceries in a month. I cant believe the holier than thou assholes who complain about the welfare program :facepalm:

Growing up I was taught that welfare was bad, and those who took advantage were lazy people who were mostly immigrants. But what I saw in that office was mainly people who did need financial help of some sort. Not to mention the amount they are getting isnt shit. There is a VERY long and boring process even to apply, and as you can see they filter out the people who truly dont qualify.

“If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn’t help the poor, either we’ve got to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we’ve got to acknowledge that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition, and then admit that we just don’t want to do it.” -Stephen colbert



I've seen EBT cards with a balance near 1000.00.:shrug:


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Re: "Welfare"......stop complaining [Re: Notwoodyallen]
    #15122988 - 09/23/11 04:15 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

I have mild OCD and a friend of mine has it much worse and we've never been known to keep tidy surroundings. In fact, his surroundings seem to be messier in direct proportion to how bad his OCD is - for example, he had a phase of being unable to flush toilet paper down the toilet. That was one disgusting bathroom.


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Re: [Re: pwnasaurus]
    #15122990 - 09/23/11 04:16 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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pwnasaurus said:
Quote:

Bundy said:
Quote:

pwnasaurus said:
Quote:

Bundy said:
I get disability benefits. ( start flamming me now ) and where I'm from I get 717$ a month, out of a possible 1,000$ a month. But here in New York your benefits reflect how much you have worked in your life. I worked from 14-19. 2 years of that was summer jobs, until I decided I hated the school system and went to work instead because the money I was making was MUCH better than an education. lol. I was making 2200 a month at 16 so school wasn't for me. I still got my GED though. Anyway.. off topic.

717 here isn't shit either. I live in the projects because they are income based, I deal with people who ARE taking advantage of the wel-fare system. I've got a black guy next door, with his fat white wife, and 4 kids, and he sits outside all day long drinking booze, and adding shit to his 94 honda dx, which looks like shit ANYWAY.

but then there is a handful of us here in the projects that aren't able to work, and we are hardly getting by.

My rent is 236 a month, my electricity is 60 a month, my car insurance is 100 a month, food is about 200 a month and my phone and internet is 60 a month. That leaves me around 60 dollars a month of left over money.
:facepalm:

I miss working. I miss my 2200 a month. I miss having a nice apartment, and a car payment with a car that's actually worth a damn.

The government though needs to stop complaining. The prison's are costing almost triple what's going out to people on disability.
Take out the people in prison who are there for marijuana alone, and we might be even.

So to all the republicans that bitch about those of us on wel-fare/disability whatever you wish to call it who actually need it, shut the fuck up. Your money is going to a lot worse, and what does it take out of your paycheck anyway? Take a look at your next pay stub. I live in New York where taxes are one of the top 3 states for highest taxes, and on a paystab ( one of mine anyway from when I was making bank ) I was only paying in like 10$ to social security.




I hate to break it to you dude, but $2200/month is pretty awful.  That's like $25k/year.  And since you had no education getting that position, chances are you could never have gone up from that, or at least not far.  You gotta be making at least like $50-60k/year without kids to be comfortable IMO.




It all depends on where you live. Rent here is only 650 for a 2 bedroom without section 8 projects/housing.

My mom only made 28k a year, and raised me and my sister on her own. Bills were rarely late, car payment was on time, food in the fridge, etc.



Does she own a house?  Is she going to be able to retire at/before 65?  Does she have ANY money saved up?  The answer to these questions is almost certainly a resounding "no".

Not trying to hate on your mom or anything, I'm sure she did great for you guys with what she had, but you cannot actually expect to save any money on that kind of a salary with two kids.




She has about 4,000 in the bank I believe. She set up a 401k at 18 when she got a good enough job for one, so her expected retirement age is 56, and she has a mortgage on a house right now. 3 bedroom house for 80,000. ( Like I said.. it depends on where ya live brah. )


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Re: [Re: Bundy]
    #15123004 - 09/23/11 04:19 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

That actually completely baffles me.  If she made that on average for her entire career while raising two children on her income alone, I can't even understand how that's possible.


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    #15123022 - 09/23/11 04:23 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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That actually completely baffles me.  If she made that on average for her entire career while raising two children on her income alone, I can't even understand how that's possible.




Budget man, while I lived with her (Until I was 16) she had a 3 bedroom apartment for 500 a month. Car payment on an olds for 129 a month. 400 dollars a month in groceries. Then y'know cable, internet, lights.

That's only about 1400 a month which leaves 800 a month left over for whatever else. ( Clothes for me and my sister, and what not )

and at 14 I had a job, and so did my sister. So we paid for own shit from 14+

It's all do-able.


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Re: [Re: pwnasaurus]
    #15123029 - 09/23/11 04:25 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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pwnasaurus said:
Not trying to hate on your mom or anything, I'm sure she did great for you guys with what she had, but you cannot actually expect to save any money on that kind of a salary with two kids.




lol, of course you can save on 28k.  28k is easy to live and save on.  Not trying to hate on you or anything, but if you can raise two kids on 28k you are either spoiled or stupid.


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Re: "Welfare"......stop complaining [Re: BlindSophist]
    #15123056 - 09/23/11 04:33 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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Tchan909 said:
In fact, his surroundings seem to be messier in direct proportion to how bad his OCD is .



That's about how it is

I've seen EBT cards with a balance near 1000.00.
Women and children. I said I lived in a tent, 200 a month. That's what it maxes to here, unless you roll it over


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Re: "Welfare"......stop complaining [Re: Notwoodyallen]
    #15123079 - 09/23/11 04:39 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

I don't know, but it doesn't roll over here.:shrug:


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