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hidenseek
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Re: Any Hydroponic Vegetable Growers Here? [Re: Aleon]
#15175524 - 10/04/11 09:37 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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anyone hear breed crayfish?i just caught 3 in a minnow trap yesturday
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Aleon
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Re: Any Hydroponic Vegetable Growers Here? [Re: hidenseek]
#15180688 - 10/05/11 12:21 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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hidenseek said: anyone hear breed crayfish?i just caught 3 in a minnow trap yesturday
YEah i actually just had my first batch of eggs hatch 2 weeks ago. Take the mom out of the tank right away after the babies come out of the red eggs on the underside of her tail (or else shell eat em). The are barely visible the first day after they hatch.
Here are some great link for Australian Red Claw's (what im growing), they are crayfish, different from the ones you caught but the info is probably similar:
here and here
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Re: Any Hydroponic Vegetable Growers Here? [Re: Aleon]
#15180862 - 10/05/11 01:08 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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thanks
you know not to release them right? http://news.opb.org/article/invasive-crayfish-may-be-class-pets-first/
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Oregon has two new invasive species to deal with. For the first time in the western United States, scientists say two kinds of crayfish have appeared in streams and rivers.
What makes this story unusual is how they got here. Oregon Field Guide’s Vince Patton reports that it’s probably not anglers or boats spreading the crayfish. Instead, it may be your children.
This is a story of a river in eastern Oregon, a stream in the Willamette Valley and a pest.The invader they share in common got a helping hand from the most unlikely people.
Let’s start on the John Day River.
Julian Olden and a colleague are wrestling with a wide flat net.
They struggle to pull it down to the bottom of the riverbed.
Once it’s there, they shuffle their feet.
Within seconds they kick up what they’re looking for.
Julian Olden: “They’re pretty thick through here. Take a couple of kicks. It’s pretty much a crayfish under every rock. That’s the reality of it.”
Olden is an assistant professor with the University of Washington.
He’s finding rusty crayfish throughout 30 miles of river stretching downstream from the town of John Day. They don’t belong here.
Julian Olden: “This is the first known population west of the Continental Divide. This species are native to the upper Ohio River drainage in the Midwestern U.S.
It turns out the John Day isn’t the only new Oregon home for invasive crayfish.
There’s a small stream gurgling through Corvallis called Dixon Creek.t also has rusty crayfish from the Midwest, plus Red Swamp crayfish from Louisiana.
So how do 2-inch long crustaceans climb the Rocky Mountains to reach the John Day River and then hike again over the Cascade Range to the Willamette Valley?
Anglers and their boats often introduce invasive species to new waters.
But they’re not the likely carriers this time.
Scientists realized that both the John Day River and Dixon Creek run behind several grade schools, which buy science kits that contain live crayfish.
Julian Olden:"Unlike the dominant vector which is through bait bucket releases of fishermen, we see a quite different story here. Crayfish are using the classroom."
Every year, children at Franklin School in Corvallis get a hands-on lesson in biology. They feed and study live crayfish.
Their teacher, Jennifer England, says there’s no better way to engage kids than by having living examples in the classroom.
Jennifer England: “You can talk about it, you can look at a movie but it’s not the same as actually picking it up and learning how to, to hold the crayfish and what are the structures and how really unique are they.”
It’s when the lessons end that they cause problems.
Gregory Murphy studied crayfish for a whole semester.
Gregory Murphy: “And what happens in the classroom is people don’t know what to do with them so they’ll just release them into the wild and they won’t know they’re actually making an impact ecosystem.”
You see, Oregon has only one native crayfish. It’s called the signal crayfish.
Murphy has learned the signal doesn’t have a chance when aggressive crayfish from other parts of the country show up in local waters.
Gregory Murphy: “They will um, eat the fish eggs that are in the rivers and they will also kick the native crayfish out of their habitats.”
The Oregon Department of Fish & Wildlife says shipping invasive crayfish into Oregon is illegal.
It sent warning letters in 2008 to a couple of suppliers who ship live crayfish, frogs and turtles to individuals and classrooms.
The shipments continued. One of those firms, Ward’s Natural Science, says it includes a warning in every shipment to, quote “never release a live laboratory organism into the wild.”
ODFW chose not to aggressively enforce the law.
Instead, the agency says it favors the approach Sam Chan is taking. He’s with Oregon Sea Grant and he’s teaching teachers to make the crayfish part of a lesson on invasive species.
Sam Chan: “Teachers are using this as a teachable moment and their students are learning about invasive species while learning about science."
So the most important thing is for us not to be releasing live plants and animals from classrooms.”
Some schools are sending their crayfish to Chan at OSU at the end of semester.
Others, like Franklin School, teach kids that the best option may well be euthanasia.
That’s what they opted for in Gregory Murphy’s class.
Gregory Murphy: “We actually put them in a bag and put them in a freezer. And that was a very painless way for them to go.”
Oregon Sea Grant would like to spread the lesson beyond Oregon.
It’s estimated that 25 percent of the elementary schools in the nation receive crayfish for their science classes.
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Re: Any Hydroponic Vegetable Growers Here? [Re: hidenseek]
#15185663 - 10/06/11 11:43 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah, i keep my tanks indoors so they dont make it outside. ALso i live in WI and i would think they would croak from the cold temps in the winter.
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Re: Any Hydroponic Vegetable Growers Here? [Re: Aleon]
#15192136 - 10/07/11 05:10 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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I've grown hydroponic peppers and aeroponic tomatoes indoors during the winter. It's a lot of fun, and there's nothing like eating fresh garden tomatoes when there is snow on the ground. It is pretty expensive though. I was using a 1000W HPS lamp, and it cost about $1 per day to run it. It's a fun hobby though!
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Aleon said: Yeah, i keep my tanks indoors so they dont make it outside. ALso i live in WI and i would think they would croak from the cold temps in the winter.
I live in MN, and there are crawfish in many of our lakes. I am guessing that means they could survive your winters...
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But so does the human experience.. which is like fire, sometimes you just need to stoke the coals and sometimes you just need to add a log or reposition the log matrix. But a well built fire will be much more self-sustaining than a poorly built one, and they all need love to grow. And don't fuck around or your might burn yourself. Must always respect the fire. - Shroomism
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Re: Any Hydroponic Vegetable Growers Here? [Re: Happy2fly]
#15195065 - 10/08/11 10:22 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Happy2fly said: It is pretty expensive though. I was using a 1000W HPS lamp, and it cost about $1 per day to run it.
not that bad when you see tomato pricing
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Re: Any Hydroponic Vegetable Growers Here? [Re: Happy2fly]
#15197122 - 10/08/11 08:04 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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i never heard of aeroponics before, whats your setup consist of? i might be interested in trying it
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Re: Any Hydroponic Vegetable Growers Here? [Re: hidenseek]
#15201123 - 10/09/11 05:44 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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aeroponics setups typically mist the roots directly and have little to no growing medium like vermiculite, rock wool or hydroton. it allows the roots to get plenty of nutrients and oxygen
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rule, there are 44 words in the english language that follow the rule. this is
the shit our education funding is paying for and these liberals want more money
for education to keep making students stupid
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Re: Any Hydroponic Vegetable Growers Here? [Re: hidenseek]
#15204245 - 10/10/11 10:26 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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hidenseek said: i never heard of aeroponics before, whats your setup consist of? i might be interested in trying it
As Pris said above, aeroponics involves using a water pump on a timer connected to some nozzles that spray the roots a few times an hour.
I used a large rubbermaid container, cut out some holes in the lid and dropped 3" baskets into the holes to hold the plants. For the sprayer, I just used a 1" diameter PVC pipe and attached 4-5 spray nozzles then hooked it up to a pond pump that sits in the bottom of the rubbermaid container. The container acts like a reservoir, and the idea is to set the timer up so that the pump sprays the roots frequently enough that they do not dry out. I think I had it set for 5 min on, 15 min off.
Once it's set up, all you have to do is test and adjust the nutrient mixture concentration and PH once a week or so.
-------------------- The fire has many things to teach.
But so does the human experience.. which is like fire, sometimes you just need to stoke the coals and sometimes you just need to add a log or reposition the log matrix. But a well built fire will be much more self-sustaining than a poorly built one, and they all need love to grow. And don't fuck around or your might burn yourself. Must always respect the fire. - Shroomism
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