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#14941381 - 08/18/11 10:37 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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I've been thinking about what I consider spiritual experiences in my life. Outside of the psychedelic experience and solo experiences in the back country the experience of being at Burning Man I consider the most spiritual event I've ever encountered and especially when it comes to being with other humans.
It's very hard to convey what that experience is like to someone who has never been. They've made some very nice documentaries such as http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Burning_Man_Beyond_Black_Rock/70052384?trkid=2361637 or http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Burning_Man_The_Burning_Sensation/70125591?trkid=2361637 but they hardly capture the reality of the event. Maybe the only time in my life where I've felt at home with my fellow humans. Sharing, caring, in a gifting community that does not allow commerce and frowns upon barter and openly encourages giving freely of what you have to share with others, emotionally or materially.
The 40 thousand people tripping and raving in the dozens of huge music and dance venues along with the thousands of bikes and the few art cars that are allowed and everyone else on foot in constant motion for seven days is amazing. Especially at night when the light show is beyond comprehension and feels like being at the center of the Universe.
Then the literally hundreds of amazing and free workshops all day long will make one rue any amount they feel they have to get some sleep. Along with this the extremely harsh desert environment of the playa with the almost constant heat and dust storms makes it something unforgettable and a complete challenge for your psyche.
Unbelievable amounts of kindness and shit faced grinning. In three years I never saw a negative altercation. (I'm not saying they don't happen or that this is heaven on earth, I just never saw one, and something really weird is that with no traffic control and thousands of bikes weaving in and out constantly I never once saw two bikes crash, something I can't explain)
I encourage everyone here to try and make while it still exists. I can't help but think you'll agree and mark it as one of the most important events of your life.
My only advice is truly come prepared for the difficulties and learn everything you can from their web site, http://www.burningman.com/ to help you be prepared to really have some fun. I think it really takes a year to prepare for the event. I've been three times now and hope to see you there either next year or the next.
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: Icelander]
#14941587 - 08/18/11 11:45 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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 have the funds but don't have the time
do you take your dogs?
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: Kickle]
#14941640 - 08/18/11 12:04 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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You can't take dogs or pets as the environment is too harsh. The dust alone can do them in.
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: Icelander]
#14941646 - 08/18/11 12:05 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: Kickle]
#14941652 - 08/18/11 12:07 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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 have the funds but don't have the time
do you take your dogs?
if i bring my cat will someone be kind enough to feed him provide him fresh water and a litter box which is changed daily? since it's such a giving place and all.
sure people are happy they are getting laid and having a drug fest. it's like the good old days. you give them a "donation" (ha ha) and they provide you with an artificial environment where people can pretend to actually care for a while. like woodstock but back then they maybe really did care then at least the Stock has stood the test of time. i bet people bring laptops and cell phones now but hide them and pretend they aren't doing outside business.
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I can see why you feel that way but you'll never know until you experience it for yourself.
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: Icelander]
#14941700 - 08/18/11 12:20 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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I'm still trying to recover from Harbin LOL.
While it does sound interesting you know me I am not much into crowds. I need a lot of personal space and that place sounds confining.
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Well I hear that but remember you are surrounded by 20 miles of empty playa and beyond that scores of miles of deserted (by humans) desert mountains. It's hard to find an insect and not any plants at all. Many come and plant themselves at the outer edges of the city and can look one way and see no humanity and look the other and see the party. I think next time I go I will park on the edge. I agree it's very very intense. Yet like you I'm not attracted to crowds usually ever. This is an exception.
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: Icelander]
#14942009 - 08/18/11 01:46 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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A good lady friend and I are driving over 2000 miles to check this thing out for the first time this year. We have a couple friends who are part of the building crew that creates and breaks down the event's infrastructure every year, but mostly we're looking forward to seeing what it's all about with little guidance.
Unless of course you were going to be there, Mr. Ice. I could use an enlightened master.
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: Icelander]
#14942098 - 08/18/11 02:05 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Sounds pretty awesome. I hope to get there next year - or at least something like it. I am going to pick up four tickets as soon as they go on sale, which I believe is in the winter?
Do you think something like a toned-down BM could act as a sustainable city? Just a loose musing... Imagine the Burning man city, perhaps a fraction of the size with equally less people, acting as a perma-culture community/farm. People work for 24 hours a week in the fields for food, others in constructing living arrangements, others in education, etc etc.
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: Icelander]
#14942204 - 08/18/11 02:22 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Me and my friend have been talking about going for awhile. Seems like lots of good vibes
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: Icelander]
#14942249 - 08/18/11 02:28 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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I'd go if I weren't a square.
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Sleepwalker said: A good lady friend and I are driving over 2000 miles to check this thing out for the first time this year. We have a couple friends who are part of the building crew that creates and breaks down the event's infrastructure every year, but mostly we're looking forward to seeing what it's all about with little guidance.
Unless of course you were going to be there, Mr. Ice. I could use an enlightened master. 
Not this year but I hope when you return you will PM me with your impressions.
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: Lion]
#14942375 - 08/18/11 02:52 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Lion said: I'd go if I weren't a square.
Go as a square. Many do.
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: Icelander]
#14942434 - 08/18/11 03:01 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Id like to do this, i've been to Glastonbury festival which was definitely a great experience, Burning Man does sound like some serious fun, all i've really read about it has been from Orocks book about 5MeoDMT & it still sounds legendary
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#14942506 - 08/18/11 03:13 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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c0sm0nautt said: Sounds pretty awesome. I hope to get there next year - or at least something like it. I am going to pick up four tickets as soon as they go on sale, which I believe is in the winter?
Do you think something like a toned-down BM could act as a sustainable city? Just a loose musing... Imagine the Burning man city, perhaps a fraction of the size with equally less people, acting as a perma-culture community/farm. People work for 24 hours a week in the fields for food, others in constructing living arrangements, others in education, etc etc.
Here you go.
http://www.ananda.org/ananda/village/
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: Icelander]
#14942524 - 08/18/11 03:16 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Icelander said: Well I hear that but remember you are surrounded by 20 miles of empty playa and beyond that scores of miles of deserted (by humans) desert mountains. It's hard to find an insect and not any plants at all. Many come and plant themselves at the outer edges of the city and can look one way and see no humanity and look the other and see the party. I think next time I go I will park on the edge. I agree it's very very intense. Yet like you I'm not attracted to crowds usually ever. This is an exception.
I am still trying to recover from our visit to Ananda and all that phoniness and communism.
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Very different experience I would imagine. Most people at the Man are just in a good mood and don't have much time to preach.
It's not that BM is the cure for what ails the world. It's at best only a band aid. What it is IMO is a whole bunch of mostly liberal live and let lives that are in a very very good mood. Finding a huge group of people that are all in a good mood is a very unique experience imo. I doubt it could be sustained for long. It's a break from the focus on how hard life can be or how we have to see so much suffering around ourselves and on our planet. It's a real vacation imo. And you can bring a tad back with you when you leave. And you can look forward to next year.
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: Icelander]
#14942591 - 08/18/11 03:31 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Icelander said: Very different experience I would imagine. Most people at the Man are just in a good mood and don't have much time to preach.
It's not that BM is the cure for what ails the world. It's at best only a band aid. What it is IMO is a whole bunch of mostly liberal live and let lives that are in a very very good mood. Finding a huge group of people that are all in a good mood is a very unique experience imo. I doubt it could be sustained for long. It's a break from the focus on how hard life can be or how we have to see so much suffering around ourselves and on our planet. It's a real vacation imo. And you can bring a tad back with you when you leave. And you can look forward to next year.
Well it must be fun you rave about it year after year.
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The Chronic said: Id like to do this, i've been to Glastonbury festival which was definitely a great experience, Burning Man does sound like some serious fun, all i've really read about it has been from Orocks book about 5MeoDMT & it still sounds legendary
You would thrive there. There are a ton of folk who would relate to you and what you are experiencing. When you get there you get a fat booklet of workshops on everything from cosmic consciousness to yoga, to permaculture, to drumming to sacred sex practice (tantra) to how to make a hat, the psychedelic experience or learn how to make a drum and play it. The only hard part is deciding which ones you will have to miss.
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Hairy pussy !
HOOOOAH !
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LunarEclipse said: I am still trying to recover from our visit to Ananda and all that phoniness and communism.
I'm not necessarily looking for something "spiritual," as I've found the most "spiritual" people usually don't require that label.
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#14943021 - 08/18/11 04:55 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Just got done watching the documentary on netflix and I was struck by the guy who built those temples and would let 'em burn. A whole years worth of effort burning up in a matter of seconds.
How many people are really willing to let the fruits of their labor go up in smoke like that? Pretty cool IMO. And I was thinking about how intellectual labors can be seen in a similar way. Especially for those with a philosophical bent to them. We think, and think, and think, spending many many hours analyzing and sifting through the world, trying to make sense of it. Some might even consider it a life-long effort. And along the way there is always a point where ideas that have been built for years and years cannot be held to any longer and must be burned off.
And while I'm not sure that the sculptor could stop building the temples and lighting them on fire, similarly I'm not sure a mind that philosophizes can choose not to build it's own sculptures and models. The best bet might be to let 'em burn freely.
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: Kickle] 2
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His temples are a big favorite there. IMO more important to many than the Man. His temple usually burns a day after the event ends and so people need to stick around another day for it. Many do. It's one of the most emotional places I've been. Thousands of folk write down their losses, pains, sorrows and struggles and leave them to burn. You can spend days looking through them and the photos and getting torn apart. The stories can be heartbreaking and there are always many people moved to tears when you are there. People cry freely there without shame. At the end it's like all this sorrow goes up in flames and smoke to the heavens and gives people their symbolic chance to let go and start up their lives again. It's an extremely powerful place imo.
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: Icelander]
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let 'em burn
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There's a lot of symbolism around the Man and a day before he burns there are crowds that plead for his life to be spared. Of course it can't happen but it's part of the symbolic ego struggle of the self.
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: Icelander]
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yeah I found the fact that a few couples were embracing and getting very sexual as the man was burning pretty telling too.
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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LunarEclipse said: I am still trying to recover from our visit to Ananda and all that phoniness and communism.
I'm not necessarily looking for something "spiritual," as I've found the most "spiritual" people usually don't require that label.
I would describe these folks as humorless serious Nazi hippies. They are really quite scary IMO.
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That doesn't sounds like the community I want to be a part of. I want a community of clowns.
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c0sm0nautt said: That doesn't sounds like the community I want to be a part of. I want a community of clowns. 
Yea me too. Unfortunately Ananda is all about the money power and control. Something all cults seem to have in common from my experience.
I love fire when I get started it normally leads to trouble. Got the fire dept called 3x recently for some bit too large bonfires in the city. God I hated that neighbor. The night I barked like a dog at 4 am after running my chop saw for an hour was the best night in a while.
Woof!
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said: His temples are a big favorite there. IMO more important to many than the Man. His temple usually burns a day after the event ends and so people need to stick around another day for it. Many do. It's one of the most emotional places I've been. Thousands of folk write down their losses, pains, sorrows and struggles and leave them to burn. You can spend days looking through them and the photos and getting torn apart. The stories can be heartbreaking and there are always many people moved to tears when you are there. People cry freely there without shame. At the end it's like all this sorrow goes up in flames and smoke to the heavens and gives people their symbolic chance to let go and start up their lives again. It's an extremely powerful place imo.
Funny to me folks put so much energy into symbolism. Why should it matter? OC chime in here. What does this belief that these people have that they can symbolically let go by burning paper have to do with anything powerful. It's just someone's scrawling who wasted gas to get somewhere to burn things and further increase their carbon footprint. Do the earth a favor stay home.
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Our minds work with symbols. That's like saying 'Why do we bother communicating?' Words are symbols too man.
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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c0sm0nautt said: Our minds work with symbols. That's like saying 'Why do we bother communicating?' Words are symbols too man.
Sure. I am leery of any group effort that has that much emotion and very little real meaning. It's a fun thing next thing you know it's all symbolic emotional and everyone is sobbing. No thanks it doesn't sound like my scene anyway...
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Anyone interesting in Burning Man should check out the regional burns as well and subscribe to the mailing lists for a feel of the community and access to the burner events in your area. Burning Man regionals happen all over the world. I've been to over a dozen in my area, and I will say that they saved my life.
When I found the burn scene years ago, I was at a point where I really needed to see a loving community, working together and playing together without any judgments or agendas. I haven't made it to the big one yet (was gonna go this year, but the tickets sold out for the first time ever... bah), but I agree with Icelander when he ranks the experience at the top of his spiritual experiences.
There are a lot of people out there with great focus and intention, and they bring that to the festivals to share freely. There is definitely real meaning behind these gatherings. Personally, I have shared great connections with people and I truly feel like I found family.
If you think it's "just a party in the desert/woods", then you simply don't get it. Sure, there are plenty of people that come out there with that mentality. But for me and many others, it's a journey of self-discovery. This festival isn't about a bunch of paid artists doing what their paid to do for a bunch of drugged out hippies... no, it's about YOU and EVERYONE doing what they LOVE to do, and sharing it FREELY, and watching the MAGIC that happens when we stop holding back and simply let ourselves BE!
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: playapez]
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I hope to go next year. If you go let me know and we can meet. (if you like)
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: Icelander]
#14944428 - 08/18/11 10:39 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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I'm already there next year! So yes, we should definitely meet 
I had originally planned 2012 to be my first time to the playa, but at the last minute I decided to go this year.... then in the last 30 seconds, the tickets sold out.
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: playapez]
#14944513 - 08/18/11 10:53 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah, amazing, some of my friends missed out too.
Shit I forgot it's 2012 next year.
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: Icelander]
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: deff]
#14946052 - 08/19/11 08:37 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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It will be easy to guess the theme for 2012. 
As you may or may not know each year has a theme.
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: Icelander]
#14946662 - 08/19/11 12:11 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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I think "Rites of Passage" is a fitting theme for my first time. Besides being a newbie, I'm going through a lot of personal change right now as well... this trip has a lot of symbolic meaning for me.
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Nice, I'd really love to hear your impressions or anything you want to share. Feel free to PM me when you get back. I admit to being a little envious.
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: Icelander]
#14958268 - 08/21/11 10:04 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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I'm actually selling a ticket to Burning Man; if anyone wants to check it out (free next-day shipping).
Can't wait for BM  I'll be there two days early
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: eira]
#14958474 - 08/21/11 10:53 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Lucky boy. 
Oops girl! A rare breed around here.
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: Icelander]
#14958876 - 08/22/11 12:34 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Haha! So I've noticed 
I've realized after reading this thread that BM is a lot like mushrooms--for me, at least. You experience it, then go on living your life with a bit of its magic dust still attached to your ethos. And when the time comes to experience it once more, you're filled with all this excited energy like a kid on Christmas Eve.
Anyway I do agree, everyone should try Burning Man (or something like it) at least once in their lifetime
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: eira]
#14958950 - 08/22/11 12:58 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Bra shaman aye?
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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all I can say is you'll know it when you see it
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: eira]
#14959766 - 08/22/11 08:33 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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eira said: Haha! So I've noticed 
I've realized after reading this thread that BM is a lot like mushrooms--for me, at least. You experience it, then go on living your life with a bit of its magic dust still attached to your ethos. And when the time comes to experience it once more, you're filled with all this excited energy like a kid on Christmas Eve.
Anyway I do agree, everyone should try Burning Man (or something like it) at least once in their lifetime 
How many times have you gone? I'm thinking if I go next year it will be alone. I've never done that. And I'll camp on the edge of town to boot. I'll be a solo Love Ho.
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
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eira said: Haha! So I've noticed 
I've realized after reading this thread that BM is a lot like mushrooms--for me, at least. You experience it, then go on living your life with a bit of its magic dust still attached to your ethos. And when the time comes to experience it once more, you're filled with all this excited energy like a kid on Christmas Eve.
Anyway I do agree, everyone should try Burning Man (or something like it) at least once in their lifetime 
How many times have you gone? I'm thinking if I go next year it will be alone. I've never done that. And I'll camp on the edge of town to boot. I'll be a solo Love Ho.
This will be my second time going Last year was my first time; finally got to go after years of wanting to, but having to deal with high school, then college.
I went alone last year. Drove up there on my own, too. But I found a camp before hand to take me in; there was only three of us, so that was an excellent adventure on its own. I'm actually camping with that same camp this year.
By going alone, I was able to push myself to meet all sorts of new people, explore everything I wanted, become a bit more reliable. Then again, I enjoy solo traveling so I'm not sure if it'd be the same for other people. By the end of the week, everyone in our general area knew me as "the girl to ask for directions" haha.
While I did get lonely for my home friends & family, overall the excitement, new relationships and solo adventuring definitely outweighed the yearning for familiar company. Plus I got to make new company which is always a blast.
I remember having dreams after Burning Man (post-BM depression is very real!) about camping out on the edge of the circle. Lots of times I wandered out there at night, just to look up at the stars. It's a really nice and surreal break from the chaos
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: eira]
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That's cool. I've done much of my traveling, especially overseas alone. It does push you to reach out to strangers which is good for me at least. I only miss my dogs usually.
I hope one day we can meet out there. Please PM me your report of you want. I'd love to hear everything since I won't be there. And really have an awesome time and stay the extra day if you can to see the temple burn.
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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c0sm0nautt said: Our minds work with symbols. That's like saying 'Why do we bother communicating?' Words are symbols too man.
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: Icelander]
#14977492 - 08/25/11 06:22 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Starting the journey tomorrow! I'm so excited. Icelander, I was reading a 5-year-old thread of yours about the BM experience and you make it sound so wonderful. Being in the same town and interacting with the same basic group of people every day can get me "stuck" in one certain mode of expressing myself, but I know there is more to me than that. For that reason I think Burning Man is going to be a very transformative experience for me...all I have to do is allow it to be so. I will definitely return the favor and give you my own impressions of the experience in a little over a week.
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Lucky boy, you made this happen. I agree that you may well be changed by this event. Happy Trails and I'll do my best to be there in spirit until I can in person.
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Icelander said: And really have an awesome time and stay the extra day if you can to see the temple burn.
I stayed for the temple burn last year and it put me in a really funky mood...emotions I hadn't had a chance to deal with were rising with the flames. I'm interested to see what it'll be like this year.
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Sleepwalker said: Starting the journey tomorrow! I'm so excited.
Woo! I'm leaving tomorrow, as well, hopefully getting there by tomorrow night. If you don't mind me asking, what camp are you staying with? Feel free to PM me if you want.
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: eira]
#14981890 - 08/26/11 02:47 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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You know you can find each other via the computer address book at the help center (can't remember what it's called) near center camp.
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