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 MJ, not MHRB, STB TEK. huh? 
#14881648 - 08/06/11 05:57 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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I was giving a bit of marijuana trim. Lately, working the DMT STB tek, curiously thought what would MJ leave. So, I began. This morning, white whisps of something was found floating in the naphta when pulled from freezer. Couldn't figure a way to seperate the two, I poured contents onto pyrex pie plate then pie plate on top of pot with mild boiling water. Whats left is a brown/red oil that smells of grass when burnt. Fresh leaf was used, so that accounts for the smell. Have yet to test. Any ideas, thoughts, comments be appreciated.
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Interesting, excited to here your results.
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Re: MJ, not MHRB, STB TEK. huh? [Re: HugaDeadHead] 1
#14881673 - 08/06/11 06:05 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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plant fats.
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Re: MJ, not MHRB, STB TEK. huh? [Re: Dawks]
#14882056 - 08/06/11 07:43 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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^ what this guy said.
but by all means at least try it, that plant fat wont hurt you. who knows you might get really really high.
always good to experiment but your description sounds like plant fats.
i can tell you from using different extraction methods on my sweetleaf from my grows that butane is probably the best for extraction.
my friend blew me a sweet extraction tube out of thick glass. i bought screens in paper sized sheets and cut to fit the tube, fill er up with leaves or buds and spray that butane in that bitch and blow it out the other end. leaves me with the cleanest and tastiest product out of the 5 diff solvents ive used.
will check back on this thread to see if your extract was just fats or if there was some transfer.
goodluck 
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Re: MJ, not MHRB, STB TEK. huh? [Re: kushfarts]
#14882920 - 08/06/11 11:16 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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I have yet to get results. I don't smoke the stuff. Will eat a potent oil. Butane makes some bee's wax. Bzzz.
had done this because t all these DMT pulls grew the wonder of what if...
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I would of made butane hash oil out of it.
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Re: MJ, not MHRB, STB TEK. huh? [Re: VaeVictum]
#14883154 - 08/07/11 12:19 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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I know this is a stupid question because I searched on it and came up with naught... but this thread reminds me and so I ask now:
But my dog has heard how smoking salts is not good and one should freebase for more effect. I have found this true with syrian rue, even whole seed when smoked is more effective after somehow freebasing.
(Ammonia soak/evap or mixing with some water and a base before drying out.
Are the actives of MJ not able to be basified?
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Re: MJ, not MHRB, STB TEK. huh? [Re: flickedbic]
#14883775 - 08/07/11 03:18 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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You were wasting your time when adjusting PH, as THC does not have a salt or freebase form.
You could have just thrown some green in with some naphtha for the same effect. Freeze precipitating, also, would be a waste of time.
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Also, somethin tells me your naphtha hash is gonna be a little green.... I dunno though, I've heard of good results using naphtha to make hash before.
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Same color as a butane pull. Was at a house of smokers last night. None of them wanted to try it. Much experience with cultivating one has. He gave good comments towards the look, an yellow/orange/brown. Smells like grass when burnt. I don't smoke herb. So, its not me to test. Will get one here soon.
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 You should have just done a naptha extraction man, ive done that before and got some nice oil.
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Re: MJ, not MHRB, STB TEK. huh? [Re: Connoisseur]
#14886846 - 08/07/11 08:11 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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ALSO - you should never let a toxic solvent like naphtha be the last chemical to touch your final product, especially when it is not a crystalline substance like freebase DMT.
If it is a gum/oil/resin type substance, you can be pretty sure there are small pockets of naphtha left in the substance...
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Thats good to know, I was going to clean out my old grinder with iso alcohol and evaporate it, then I thought of evaporating it into more weed, like some super potent THC Changa... Good or bad idea?
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Good idea, but I would prefer it by itself, so I can choose to smoke it by itself or on top of some weed.
This will totally work exactly like you are thinking though... and grinder hash is usually some good hash.
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Yeah I started wondering why no more keif was falling through, and then I discovered the sides of the weed drop container were just CAKED with what seems like fucking weapons grade hash.... Like you could be charged with war crimes if you sold this in a foreign country. It had me so fucking high I thought my LSD vial had leaked out onto my hands, CEV's and everything
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nice! This has gotten so off topic, but the original topic was kinda dumb to begin with - but have you ever put your kief collecting grinder in the freezer?
You break up some weed and stick it in the freezer, then slam it on the counter a few times after a couple hours. You will see kief buildup like you have never imagined possible....
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^ but isn't that mostly just plant matter then, and really no different from just smoking the bud?
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You can do a quick 1 minute wash with hot naphtha, 3 times (longer time on the wash pulls unwanted materials into the oil making it a darker color.) You can then wash with water, and also do an activated charcoal wash if you want. Then evap - voila - Honey Oil... (without the aerosol CFCs, you can also re-collect solvent if you know how...so more earth friendly)
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Re: MJ, not MHRB, STB TEK. huh? [Re: dwpineal]
#14897364 - 08/09/11 07:22 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Id prefer not to make a new thread so ill ask my question here. With the STB tek.....lets say you have your jar and on the bottom is the dark (MHRB/water/lye) and on top is the naptha...but then on top of that is a thin thin layer of dark. Is this cause for concern? Whats the deal?
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Re: MJ, not MHRB, STB TEK. huh? [Re: weshroom]
#14897384 - 08/09/11 07:26 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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^^ That is definitely not normal.
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Re: MJ, not MHRB, STB TEK. huh? [Re: Connoisseur]
#14897445 - 08/09/11 07:37 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Shit. This is first time attempt. When my friend rolled it some base went up on the sides of the jar, I thought maybe the top layer was from the base stuck on the sides just slowly coming down through the naptha and taking a while to go all the way through but im doubting that idea. He did have it in a gallon container for 100g bark but decided this was too big to suck the naptha up out of so moved it to a 1.5quart.
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Re: MJ, not MHRB, STB TEK. huh? [Re: weshroom]
#14898212 - 08/09/11 10:17 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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What kind of dark are we talking about?
You know a picture is worth a thousand words.... right?
But yeah, describe it in better detail at least.
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Sorry. Ok the base at the bottom(water/lye/MHRB), well there appears to be a tiny layer of that above the naptha layer at the top. So its all normal except for this very thin layer of the Base that is covering the top of the naptha layer.
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Re: MJ, not MHRB, STB TEK. huh? [Re: weshroom]
#14899189 - 08/10/11 02:13 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Well, it's definitely not the base layer as that isn't possible.
Did you open the jar, or is this judging by looking through the glass?
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I've opened the jar.
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Re: MJ, not MHRB, STB TEK. huh? [Re: weshroom]
#14903084 - 08/10/11 09:20 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Well, you could proceed as normal, but filter the solvent after you pull it.
If you didn't do anything weird, like use coleman fuel or drain opener that isn't 100% lye... or use a container or tools made of toxic or hazardous materials that could leech into the extraction and react with the chemicals, you shouldn't have anything to worry about as far as safety is concerned (besides the normal safety concerns of an extraction).
That said, something does not sound right about this, or your description. Draw the naphtha out and put it in a separate container, then see what happens.
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Hmmm, ya im pretty sure I got all the right chems. V,M+P Naptha and 100% lye http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2845800&kw=lye&origkw=lye&searchId=52429705424
From ace hardware.
I added alittle salt and extra lye to see if that will help. IM going to pull tmrw either way. Any advice for making sure I just get Naphtha and not the (water/lye mix) when im sucking it out? I plan on doing the sodium carbonate wash aswell
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Re: MJ, not MHRB, STB TEK. huh? [Re: weshroom]
#14903995 - 08/11/11 12:13 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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when you pull the naphtha, put it into another jar and let it settle for a while. This will ensure any remnants of the water layer sink to the bottom.
Do this in a separate jar, before you do the s. carb wash.
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Thanks, Ill let you know how it turns out. 
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