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 SeckTor
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 Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit  [Re: Psilosomniac]
#14848685 - 07/30/11 03:22 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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You do have a point. I know friends who practically threw their lives away for fucking World of Shitcraft. I had to work the times I hung out with them around the times they needed to raid or something. It was pathetic. And these are the friends that don't do drugs because they are "bad for you and addictive." Morons.
I agree pot is addictive but like you said anything can be. Sex, the internet, how many people are addicted to facebook? (I bet a lot are on this site. Me included, for no reason I check it like ten times a day.) ANYTHING is addictive. I want to say I'm not addicted to pot because I don't have withdrawl and all that but I suppose all and all I am addicted.
I think it's because in highscool and middleschool they preached addiction is bad and withdrawl makes you sick and I feel none of that with pot or lsd.
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 joemolloy
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: Psilosomniac]
#14848710 - 07/30/11 03:28 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah, I was thinking along the same lines, VicariousGreg. I am sure that after a while, I would no longer see weed as a big deal and instead begin to consider it almost less than a drug. And there are a few scenarios here:
1. Weed may really be no big deal. It may improve my life with little negative consequence.
2. Weed may be a big deal but psychological mechanisms take action to emphasize outcomes that support and reinforce continued use and deny or reject evidence that suggests negative consequences.
In reality, its a sword that cuts both ways and if I'm going to indulge and reap the rewards, I have to risk suffering psychological addiction and the other potential cognitive deficiencies that this drug may or may not trigger. Like you said Greg, if weed becomes central to my life, it may be difficult to discern the Truth from what the addicted mind is feeding me.
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love2shpongleIRL
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: joemolloy]
#14848720 - 07/30/11 03:29 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Do you have difficulty moderating you're other drug usage?
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: joemolloy]
#14848730 - 07/30/11 03:32 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah, I was thinking along the same lines, VicariousGreg. I am sure that after a while, I would no longer see weed as a big deal and instead begin to consider it almost less than a drug. And there are a few scenarios here:
1. Weed may really be no big deal. It may improve my life with little negative consequence.
2. Weed may be a big deal but psychological mechanisms take action to emphasize outcomes that support and reinforce continued use and deny or reject evidence that suggests negative consequences.
In reality, its a sword that cuts both ways and if I'm going to indulge and reap the rewards, I have to risk suffering psychological addiction and the other potential cognitive deficiencies that this drug may or may not trigger. Like you said Greg, if weed becomes central to my life, it may be difficult to discern the Truth from what the addicted mind is feeding me.
I'd just like to point out that these are basically the same questions I struggled with when doing a lot of LSD, and if I understand properly the same questions you struggled with when you were doing a lot of aya/pharma and probably right now with your mescaline usage. Weed is the same double-edged sword as the others...approach, but approach with caution.
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Psilosomniac
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: SeckTor]
#14848732 - 07/30/11 03:32 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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You do have a point. I know friends who practically threw their lives away for fucking World of Shitcraft. I had to work the times I hung out with them around the times they needed to raid or something. It was pathetic. And these are the friends that don't do drugs because they are "bad for you and addictive." Morons.
I agree pot is addictive but like you said anything can be. Sex, the internet, how many people are addicted to facebook? (I bet a lot are on this site. Me included, for no reason I check it like ten times a day.) ANYTHING is addictive. I want to say I'm not addicted to pot because I don't have withdrawl and all that but I suppose all and all I am addicted.
I think it's because in highscool and middleschool they preached addiction is bad and withdrawl makes you sick and I feel none of that with pot or lsd.
The difference between weed being addictive and say, video games being addictive is that I don't feel like I function at a slightly lower level after playing video games.
There needs to be a serious remodeling of the anti-drug campaign, particularly in schools. I feel like if they really spoke the truth about addictions and drugs, less people would do them. If they weren't overplaying the danger, kids wouldn't hear from their friends about how it's not as bad as they are told. Not everything anti drug campaigns say is complete nonsense, but it's all disregarded as nonsense once at least one thing is found out to be false. Let's say, for example, we were in middle school and told that smoking marijuana can make you feel dumber temporarily, which I think is true, can be bad for your lungs if smoked extremely frequently out of pipes, which I think is also true, but we were also told that marijuana makes your hair fall out. Once it's found out that nobody's hair has ever fallen out from smoking too much marijuana (save for one story I've heard about smoking out of I think it was aluminum, but I digress), the whole argument falls apart. The rest of the information is no longer coming from a legitimate source because that one major piece of information was found out to be true. I know I wouldn't believe the rest of it in this situation. That's the problem. Kids find out that some of the information they were fed in middle school by D.A.R.E. is nonsense, and they disregard all of it. That's not exactly an unfair thing to conclude, considering the part that is bullshit is seriously bullshit.
If the system was remade to accurately describe the dangers, such as psychological addiction, perhaps this whole thing could be avoided. Every drug has its dangers. Marijuana is psychologically addictive, and because it's relatively harmless to your physical health, it's that much easier to get sucked into frequent use. I personally have something I dislike about it enough to keep away, but many of you are willing to sacrifice the admittedly minor side effects of the drug because it's worth it to you. That's fine and all, but do you think you're better off doing it this frequently? Maybe you do, maybe you don't.
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: Psilosomniac]
#14848750 - 07/30/11 03:36 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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If you don't want to be psychologically addicted, getting off the forum is probably a good start. 
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: Canadian Bud]
#14848779 - 07/30/11 03:42 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Canadian Bud said:
If you don't want to be psychologically addicted, getting off the forum is probably a good start.
I'm having a good time reading about and discussing these drugs and their effects. It's a fascination of mine that I need to make sure doesn't get out of hand. I think the point I'm at is alright, and that I'm keeping myself in check pretty well. It would just be so easy to fall into it... It's like playing on the edge of a big pit. But oh, it's a beautiful pit, and there are tales of mystery, truth, and divinity that come out of it. I think I'm happy where I am, though. Perhaps it's better to never know what's behind the veil, even if it could be happiness and divine truth. Not worth the risk for me, because you really can't go back because once you're there, it doesn't seem like you could possibly tell the difference.
We're definitely all juggling burning sticks, blindfolded on the edge of a rocky cliff. So much could go wrong, but so long as it doesn't, we're all fine.
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: Canadian Bud]
#14848804 - 07/30/11 03:46 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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joemolloy said:
Yeah, I was thinking along the same lines, VicariousGreg. I am sure that after a while, I would no longer see weed as a big deal and instead begin to consider it almost less than a drug. And there are a few scenarios here:
1. Weed may really be no big deal. It may improve my life with little negative consequence.
2. Weed may be a big deal but psychological mechanisms take action to emphasize outcomes that support and reinforce continued use and deny or reject evidence that suggests negative consequences.
In reality, its a sword that cuts both ways and if I'm going to indulge and reap the rewards, I have to risk suffering psychological addiction and the other potential cognitive deficiencies that this drug may or may not trigger. Like you said Greg, if weed becomes central to my life, it may be difficult to discern the Truth from what the addicted mind is feeding me.
When I began to take weed, I took control of how much I took, but things began to change when I was having bad times and feeling bored. I would tell myself not toke, but then end up doing it anyway, from there having an escapist sort of mindset and I would indulge myself until my bag is finished.
There was a time I got stoned all day for three weeks, everything became a daze afterwards, and rather than tune myself more into things that I needed to do, I would smoke more (and too much each time). After I stopped binging, I did not feel like myself for a long time, and I lost track of time, months went past and it felt like 2 weeks.
I smoke now sometimes frequently and sometimes not, but it would be like waking up and smoke a small piece to keep me buzzing in the morning with my tea/coffee, then more with friends or relaxing and listening to music. I never have any problems with the drug, because I incorporated it into my life in a way that is viable for me.
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: Fronnis]
#14848859 - 07/30/11 04:01 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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When I began to take weed, I took control of how much I took, but things began to change when I was having bad times and feeling bored. I would tell myself not toke, but then end up doing it anyway, from there having an escapist sort of mindset and I would indulge myself until my bag is finished.
There was a time I got stoned all day for three weeks, everything became a daze afterwards, and rather than tune myself more into things that I needed to do, I would smoke more (and too much each time). After I stopped binging, I did not feel like myself for a long time, and I lost track of time, months went past and it felt like 2 weeks.
I smoke now sometimes frequently and sometimes not, but it would be like waking up and smoke a small piece to keep me buzzing in the morning with my tea/coffee, then more with friends or relaxing and listening to music. I never have any problems with the drug, because I incorporated it into my life in a way that is viable for me.
This is exactly the danger I'm talking about. A little here, a little there. You get bored, why not do some more? It helps me sleep, so what's wrong with doing it at night to help me sleep? I've got more, why not finish off the bag because I've got nothing to do today?
"Everything became a daze afterwards". This is what I'm talking about when I say I feel foggy. I absolutely hate that feeling, and it turns me off of the drug. It sounds like you had a bad time with it, but it didn't get you enough to really stop. Maybe your use is a little more responsible, or maybe you've just come to accept it as an integral part of your life. I can't judge because I haven't a clue. It seems like you feel content with it, and at one point you realized you were overdoing it, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say you've got it under control, but only you can really decide or know whether that's true or not.
As for you, joe, I think you know how it can be dangerous. Only you have an idea as to whether you could resist or even recognize when it would get out of hand. Most people here say just do it, because it's just weed, but I wouldn't default to that. I'd say consider it very carefully beforehand. I don't know whether it would be a good or bad idea for you. I don't know how it reacts with you, and how you'd respond to it.
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: Sharktasm] 1
#14848884 - 07/30/11 04:07 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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You ready for this?
Personally I have been smoking pot since I was 13 I am now 23 years old. Initially I was smoking for the first 5 years off and on during the summer maybe every other weekend. By the time I graduated and was out on my own I wanted to smoke more AND more often.
When I was young and starting out in middle/high school I have to say I was similar in the aspect that I get crazy fucked up and high. It didn't help that I live in the PNW and get the best of Canada/Cali plus all the home grown. I'd rip on a bowl of Matanuska Thunder Fuck and be gone for hours on end.
Now... I have to grind up a 1g bowl of killer chronic and smoke it all out of a bong by myself to even get 1/4 as high for about a half hour to an hour. Tolerance is definitely a real factor but honestly if you're only trying to smoke on the weekends I'd say go for it and try your hardest to be the one in control of the drug situation. Chances are you'll be fine and your tolerancy wont go up.
Personally I don't see any sort of issue with being a fiend for Marijuana. It's the least potent of any and all recreational drugs if you ask me. The only downside to it is the price, smoking large amounts of pot can get real expensive real fast. Having other people around to smoke with you and chip in is always a bonus and helps out but personally I was spending between $160-300 a month sometimes more. This was a wake up call and I'll leave my solution at the bottom, but it may be obvious to you already.
For me "addiction" (which I think is a bullshit term when it comes to Marijuana) has always revolved around my severe depression which to this date is manageable but I've proven to myself and my fiance time and time again that I really can put the pipe down whenever I want...but why I ask? Why should I stop smoking weed. I've known people who have been on real anti depressants for years with no success as well as people who killed themselves while on an MAOI/TCA/TeCA. No one contemplates suicide smokes a blunt then does it anyway.
I actually in my teen years slashed both my wrists open and laid on my bed waiting to die when a friend showed up and my dad let him in they found me laying there hoping to die. They took me to the hospital and needless to say I obviously was fine but after seeing them both cry I understood just how fucking selfish I was being and have never had a suicidal thought since. However my depression still lingers and effects my ability to keep a job and motivate myself to seek out more in life and try to better myself.
The biggest battle I've had is not relying on weed for my anti depressant and just living life to the fullest every day and loving everyone in my life. Weed can really turn out to be a hell of a drug man and honestly if you're worried about becoming "addicted" just knock that shit off now and know that YOU are in charge of this silly little plant.
This reallllllllllllllllllly may just be my own experience and personal opinion but for me when I was buying weed it really felt more like a "drug" since I had to go to a "guy" to get it and I in turn felt "addicted". The reason I feel this was is because everything about me getting weed made it feel like I was committing a crime and made everything feel like I was so much more wrapped up in it than I needed to be. Imo this created my drug like addiction to marijuana. Having to find out if I can pay bills or get weed. Waiting on the phone call to go get the weed. Driving to go get it and watching him weigh it out and watching my money go into his hands. Driving home all scared and paranoid since I have it in my ash tray hidden away. Getting home and breathing a sigh of relief then racing for my pipe and loading it and hitting it as fast as I can. Then not to mention how FAST weed can hit you. It's no wonder people feel addicted to this "drug".
There's a lot of reasons people might feel they are addicted to weed and for me it felt it's 100% about the mannerisms of how you get/smoke your weed.
Ever since I started growing my pot smoking literally has been cut in half. Not to mention after the first crop alone I made all of my money back. I will have days where I don't smoke because my stress level is down and I'm in a generally good mood. When my GF has a visit from mother nature or if her work has been stressing her out which stresses ME out I start smoking like regular.
Sorry for the huge wall of text but I just thought I'd give my honest and full opinion on the matter of this subject.
If you ask me you can never be addicted to pot if you're growing it because at that point for me at least it becomes more of a medicine that I use when I feel I need it. Whereas when I was buying it I had to tell myself and my girlfriend that I needed that 1/2 oz when in reality I was over smoking by a long shot.
Call me crazy but in the end growing has been one of the best decisions I've ever made in life hand in hand with going back to college.
I have to say that I no longer am dependent on weed and over these last few years I've had more weed readily available than I even know what to do with! My depression is fading/non existent and all aspects of my life seem to be getting better.
 
That's the current girl in the works. Only 2-3 weeks into flowering but come end of august early september I'll probably harvest a quap or more of it.
I'll wrap up with a few things. You wanted to know how smoking on occasion went for me. When I was younger it was a lot easier to smoke on occasion because I was also high on life and naive to the fucked up world we live in. Once I got into the real world I definitely would say it became immensely more difficult to smoke on occasion.
So if your mental health is in good standing and you don't have a stressful life I think there's a 0% chance of developing a fiendish habit for it. If life is iffy and at times you find yourself wondering why this world is so fucked up and dwelling on that or have anxiety/stress problems there's a good chance you could develop a habit.
Like I said before though imo what's the harm in being high 24/7. I'd say I smoke an average of .5-2g's a day on average on a bad day 3-8g's and none on a good day. My smoking habit definitely developed over the years not in a day.
Oh and as far as knowing when you've smoked too much in the day I'd say there shouldn't ever be a limit on what's enough. Personally I try to avoid getting wrapped up in non productive things like video games if I'm smoking because I find myself zoning out and feeling not high so I take another few hits. Hanging out with family and friends, bbq'ing, going to the lake and overall just having fun with people = the best time to get realllllly high. But if you want to put a number on it I'd say being high 4-8 hours out of the day is healthy for anyone.
You'd be surprised just how fun it is to get baked and work out. Also IME getting a good workout through a job or a workout plan 2-4 times a week helps with that tolerance issue. I lost 35 pounds and am now 179 and must say I get more baked now than I ever did in the 200's lol.
Hope I was of any help and good vibes are being sent your way to help you figure this out.
   
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SeckTor
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: VaeVictum]
#14849107 - 07/30/11 04:55 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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I see your point on the tolerance but here's the thing JoeMolloy said that he wasn't even too sure on his connection. So with a faulty connect that helps lower dependancy or usage a bit.
Secondly, you live in such a great weed area. I bet there's only a few times you've had to smoke mids. I'm not sure if joemolloy would be able to get such high quality product. Heads definitely fucks with you tolerance after a few weeks. Let alone a decade. 
I smoke mids most of the time...sadness...but when I get those heads BOOM high as a kite.
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VaeVictum
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: SeckTor]
#14849133 - 07/30/11 05:02 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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That's partially why I recommended growing. Just like spore vendors there's plenty of trusted seed banks out there. Whenever I get tired of growing the 3-4 strains I have I jump over to http://www.nirvanashop.com/en/feminized-marijuana-seeds/746-white-widow-feminized-5-seeds-.html
White widow was my most recent purchase and I intend to germinate all 5 seeds here next month. Weed can store forever so IMO. Buy a 120-200 watt CFL get some Fox farms ocean forest soil, 5 gallon bucket and some nutrients and set yourself up for life on growing your own personal.
I only grow Sativa dominants because Indicas glue me to the couch way too hard. Joemolloy could get himself a pound and a big ass mason jar and be set for the next few years.
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: SeckTor]
#14849140 - 07/30/11 05:04 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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I do what makes me happy.
Weed makes me happy.
I smoke every day and enjoy every minute of it. I don't notice a fog, I don't feel dumber, I don't ruin parts of my life over it.
Weed is my coffee. 
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: SeckTor]
#14849191 - 07/30/11 05:13 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Marijuana usage is the biggest indication of how much of a weak-minded idiot I used to be...and may still be. I started smoking when someone basically came up to me and asked if I wanted to. Hung out with people who smoked every day, so I did it because they did. My most recent girlfriend was a huge stoner, and being around her all the time was what made me REALLY get into it.
It's like someone else said...it's like not eating a bag of chips that's right in front of you. Unfortunately, I ate the bag of chips, then went to Costco and spent all my money making sure I'd have enough chips to last for weeks.
After having some fucked up experiences with weed on psychadelics (I blacked out once after I smoked on shrooms, and almost blacked out after doing it a second time like a dipshit), I decided to give it a break. I haven't tripped in about a month or so and haven't smoked in about 3 weeks.
The last time I did smoke, my heart went crazy, my head went spinning, and I ended up falling on my face in my bedroom hyperventilating wanting it to just fucking end already. Yes, that sounds incredibly extreme and maybe I'm a pussy for "not being able to handle my drugs," but I have long-standing psychological issues (mainly anxiety), and I feel like heavy use of hallucinogens + weed fucked my brain chemistry up pretty bad.
My advice, especially since I know you used to be heavy DMT smoker from reading some of your posts: take one hit, and wait it out. See how you feel. If it starts affecting you negatively, then just stop. As far as how often you do it...I wouldn't recommend a Friday/Saturday type thing...2 days in a row might leave you in kind of a haze, especially since you seem to get very fucked up off weed, from what you've said here. Once a week at most is my suggestion, and the minute you feel yourself craving more, hide your shit and go occupy your mind...I find myself craving weed a lot because I'll just be sitting around doing nothing thinking to myself "I should be stoned right now."
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: Macavity224]
#14849442 - 07/30/11 06:45 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah you get it, Tokinman. Its a battle with your brain, a fight with yourself, a desire against a desire and one side always wins and one side always loses. I'm never really sure which side of the war I am on though. I like to think I am on the winning side, but the victory parade and the defeated march home sorta look the same.
Flawless.
Wow...either this cannabis stuff effects all of you much differently than me, or I am a cannabis-superman, who see's all this talk about cannabis as.... retarded? unnecessary? A part of me wants to say "grow a pair, man up", and another wants to say "....huh?@?!?!?!?!".
I must be crazy because it is not this "hard" for me to deal with...
 
I don't understand how you find a post inquiring about potential psychological addiction to weed pointless. Its actually a thoughtful, responsible, and mature decision-making process I am engaging in. "Its just weed" is just a bunch of bullshit. It ain't just weed if after a few months I obsess about the drug, I get insomnia without the drug, and my sober happiness gradually erodes because of the drug. People better than me become habitual, daily users of the drug and my poking and prodding into their mindsets should be commended rather than ridiculed.
Actually, your post is indicative of a mind that values shallow reasoning, blind and careless action, and inflated hubris as you boldly charge into the world. Grow a pair? Grow a brain.
Well damn 
I understand why you reacted to my post like that, after reading what you said and then re-reading what I wrote.
I did not mean to ridicule or knock down what you are asking here, you are misreading what I mean. The simple point I was (attempting) to highlight with my words was that, imho, addiction to cannabis is, or should be, much less troubling than with just about any other drug I can think of. What I was TRYING to say with my "stop worrying so much" talk was that you are not asking about doing something more physically damaging, like opiates, or more mentally addictive physically harmful drugs, like (insert whatever drug here).
"its just weed" is not a bunch of bullshit to me, its an opinion that comes with a decade of experience. That experience includes watching other people in my life completely abuse cannabis and have bad results because of it, abuse opiates / synthetic opiates and have problems, or just straight up die (5 friends and counting :/), or burn themselves out doing
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: LongStrangeTrip]
#14849453 - 07/30/11 06:52 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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"its just weed" is not a bunch of bullshit to me, its an opinion that comes with a decade of experience. That experience includes watching other people in my life completely abuse cannabis and have bad results because of it, abuse opiates / synthetic opiates and have problems, or just straight up die (5 friends and counting :/), or burn themselves out doing
"It's just weed" just isn't accurate in this case, though. To someone who has a history of psychological addiction to psychedelics, and I can speak from experience, weed has the potential to be a serious drug. To most people, I would call vicodin "just vicodin." To a heroin addict, I would call it an opiate.
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: tokinman21]
#14849482 - 07/30/11 07:07 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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I see where you are coming from, LongStrangeTrip. If I were a battle-scarred veteran of harder drugs then my worries about weed would be disproportionately curious. I'm a screwball veteran of two years of weekly ayahuasca sessions that became somewhat compulsive and ended with me wearing tye-dye shirts as I counted down the days on the Mayan calendar (if you catch my drift.)
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: joemolloy]
#14849616 - 07/30/11 09:30 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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As someone who has used harder drugs, I find weed harder to moderate. Are you looking for justification to smoke? I do not know you, but from what you have stated I think you should leave cannabis alone. If you insist on using, you should draw a line in the sand and not cross it for any reason. If you find yourself trying to reason crossing the boundry you set,that is when it is time for a long break.
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: joemolloy]
#14849801 - 07/31/11 01:26 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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joemolloy said:
I've been thinking about incorporating weed into my life. I would plan on smoking every Friday night and Saturday and not use it during the week. I wonder if after a few months or years, I'd get the urge to smoke on weeknights and slowly turn it into a daily thing. I don't want to feel the need to habitually smoke weed. I don't want to fiend for it. Self-control has a funny way slipping away from me when I get obsessive, so I'd like to hear how you deal with weed.
If you smoke daily, was this your early intention or did it just evolve?
Do (did) any of you smoke once a week like clockwork, similar to my plan? How'd that work out?
If I smoke on Saturday, will I feel like smoking the whole damn day or is there a point when enough is enough, kind of like the Off Switch of the orgasm?
Would a tolerance develop with my plan? In the past few years, I've averaged about three smokes a year and weed FUCKS me up. I mean wacky psychedelic fucked up. Can I anticipate this every Saturday?
I feel like I'm standing at the edge of a cliff right now. I should know better.
When I fist discovered cannabis I smoked it daily (I already have a decent number of LSD trips and a couple of shroom trips under my belt at this point). I was like "woah, cannabis is a psychedelic but it's relaxing!".. then tolerance hit me, I lost the psychedelic edge and didn't really enjoy the high anymore so I quit.
After about a year, at a mates place on the weekend, I smoked some with him and enjoyed it, it really helped me to unwind from the stress of the week. I decided here that cannabis was going to become my new weekend hobby. (like what you're considering)
After some time of doing this (can't remember how long exactly, but less than a year) I started skipping it. Like I'd be like "ooh, I usually smoke now... meh" and never actually getting around to it. I'd be going like 3-4 weeks without smoking and eventually I just stopped altogether.
Don't get me wrong, I love the cannabis high and if I had to choose one drug to have around forever (like in that other thread) I'd choose cannabis because of how well it can act as: a painkiller; a sedative; a relaxant; an anti-emetic and EVEN a psychedelic. It's just I don't really get the urge to use it like I do with psychedelics.
Overall I find cannabis just clouds my thoughts and makes me forgetful, I'd rather relax with an sharp mind than a dull mind but that's just me
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: Dawks]
#14850130 - 07/31/11 03:47 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Dawks said:
Don't get me wrong, I love the cannabis high and if I had to choose one drug to have around forever (like in that other thread) I'd choose cannabis because of how well it can act as: a painkiller; a sedative; a relaxant; an anti-emetic and EVEN a psychedelic. It's just I don't really get the urge to use it like I do with psychedelics.
Overall I find cannabis just clouds my thoughts and makes me forgetful, I'd rather relax with an sharp mind than a dull mind but that's just me
Exactly. It clouds my thoughts and makes me forgetful as well. Problem is, just came back from an A Perfect Circle last night and somebody I talked with for a while offered me a free joint as we were leaving...
Hey, this doesn't mean I'm going to get into the habit of doing it often... I mean, who passes down a free joint anyways? 
The concert was  though. Almost everybody was smoking weed and a dude a few rows in front of us passed a joint back up. Couldn't resist. Didn't do all that much, probably because I was already high on A Perfect Circle. On stage, Maynard said "I smell Marijuana... Makes me want a happy meal". Later on he added happy meal into the lyrics of "Gimme Gimme Gimme". Excellent show.
Anyways, maybe I'm a hypocrite, but I'm going to go smoke this joint now. Maybe I'll even be able to keep my use to a minimum. We shall see, but I think I'd be okay if I never got to more than once a week use on average, which I've never passed before.
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