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 Cosmic fusio
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 Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit  [Re: Shiroi Usagi]
#14843294 - 07/29/11 01:22 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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well you say the better it is the less you smoke, well, youll get past that point eventually and smoke the good shit all day long
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: Cosmic fusio]
#14843677 - 07/29/11 02:55 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Terence McKenna used to spit that the way to take Cannabis was once a week... In this way, you would get the most out of it. It should be noted, however, that he admittedly smoked up to 13 times a day! 
Those who smoke pot multiple times a day do it out of habit, a form of addiction... myself included as of a month ago.
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Celestial Traveler
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: Cyanicist]
#14844010 - 07/29/11 04:17 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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"pleasure is cruelly parsimonious with nature"
The happier we are one second, the more miserable we are the next.
That's not an accurate depiction of the quote, my friend.
How so?
I don't remember the exact quote but I'm using it for my own purposes here.
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SeckTor
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: joemolloy]
#14844114 - 07/29/11 04:38 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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If you smoke daily, was this your early intention or did it just evolve?
Started in college. Whenever my roommates wanted too they'd ask and I usually would join. It never really evolved until they moved out. I moved out myself and got my own apartment and met a dude who deal who is about three blocks away. THEN my old friend from high school moved in and he sells now. So it unintentionally turned into an everyday thing. Granted I don't FEEL the need too. It's just like my roommate or I will pack a bowl and be like, "Wanna smoke?" I use it a lot because of the relaxing properties.
Do (did) any of you smoke once a week like clockwork, similar to my plan? How'd that work out?
Like I said whenever my old or new roommates offer. I'm not a mooch I buy my own stuff...just clarifying.
If I smoke on Saturday, will I feel like smoking the whole damn day or is there a point when enough is enough, kind of like the Off Switch of the orgasm?
I usually hit a point. I'm pretty high. Enough to feel it and enough to still function
Would a tolerance develop with my plan? In the past few years, I've averaged about three smokes a year and weed FUCKS me up. I mean wacky psychedelic fucked up. Can I anticipate this every Saturday?
Uhm, that depends on the person. The only time I get psychedelic fucked up is if I rip my G-Bong or Bong. And I have to smoke a decent bit i not.
NOTE: This is my perspective every is different. Also it's just weed dude. I know it should be respected like other drugs but it is JUST weed. Lol
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Johnny Depp
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I didn't read this whole thread.
But Joe Molloy: My exp. has been on again off again daily user. I've been a daily smokers for more than 3 months many times in my life. I eventually just get tired of the marijuana high, and quit for a while. Sometimes years
It's such an insidious drug because I can smoke anytime with no consequences. My job is no problem stoned, and there is no drug testing.
It's probably the same thing that everyone else has been saying in this thread. I don't know why you'd need a thread for this anyway. I'm just posting out of respect for your contributions to this forum.
If you wanna smoke then go for it. You might end up forming a daily habit. But it's not that hard to quit. Not like cigarettes or alcohol or anything.
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: joemolloy]
#14844870 - 07/29/11 06:46 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah you get it, Tokinman. Its a battle with your brain, a fight with yourself, a desire against a desire and one side always wins and one side always loses. I'm never really sure which side of the war I am on though. I like to think I am on the winning side, but the victory parade and the defeated march home sorta look the same.
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: tokinman21]
#14847796 - 07/30/11 11:25 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah you get it, Tokinman. Its a battle with your brain, a fight with yourself, a desire against a desire and one side always wins and one side always loses. I'm never really sure which side of the war I am on though. I like to think I am on the winning side, but the victory parade and the defeated march home sorta look the same.
Flawless.
Wow...either this cannabis stuff effects all of you much differently than me, or I am a cannabis-superman, who see's all this talk about cannabis as.... retarded? unnecessary? A part of me wants to say "grow a pair, man up", and another wants to say "....huh?@?!?!?!?!".
I must be crazy because it is not this "hard" for me to deal with...
 
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: LongStrangeTrip]
#14847882 - 07/30/11 11:47 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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if you can get it free
do it err day
if not its going to cost a bit if you do it every day
the real reason i wanna quit
the card allowed me to spend so much on pot
edit:growing plants outdoors is the best way to get free pot
just hard to do
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Considering speeds and speeds, until your realm cant follow the consideration.
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As you come back to reality you start to remember the possibilities in your life.
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: JilPil]
#14848261 - 07/30/11 01:36 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Ive been a daily toker for a few years now. I don't see myself stopping to be honest, because I don't see my use as a problem. I've always been very good at moderating drugs, but cannabis has probabaly been the hardest for me.
There was a period when I smoked from the moment I woke up, throughout the day, until right before I went to sleep. And to be honest I could quite happily go back to that pattern of smoking. I never got paranoid or anxious from smoking that often, just a little 'slow'.
However what I came to realise from smoking this often is that the high dimishes to a point that you never really feel that 'high'. Anyone that tells me "yeh I smoke weed all day, i'm always high", the answer I would give would be "no mate, you're never high". Thats the irony. Anyone that smokes to the point that they barely know what sober is anymore, really never gets high at all. Thats my incentive to moderate - tolerance basically. I much prefer to get 'baked off my ass' 3 or 4 times a week, than 'stoned' 5 or 6 times a day. I've been down both roads, and moderation really is key. At least imo.
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: LongStrangeTrip]
#14848368 - 07/30/11 02:05 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah you get it, Tokinman. Its a battle with your brain, a fight with yourself, a desire against a desire and one side always wins and one side always loses. I'm never really sure which side of the war I am on though. I like to think I am on the winning side, but the victory parade and the defeated march home sorta look the same.
Flawless.
Wow...either this cannabis stuff effects all of you much differently than me, or I am a cannabis-superman, who see's all this talk about cannabis as.... retarded? unnecessary? A part of me wants to say "grow a pair, man up", and another wants to say "....huh?@?!?!?!?!".
I must be crazy because it is not this "hard" for me to deal with...
I used to be in the same boat, until I got into psychedelics. After dropping a bunch of acid things changed a bit, though not too much. Then one day I sort of realized that cannabis was more a psychedelic than a standard "drug" and I began to view it that way. Once I had that shift in mindset, it gradually got trippier and trippier every time I smoked. It eventually got to the point that a single hit of good weed would often mean a four hour headfuck.
Over a period of a few weeks or a month, those headfucks started to build on eachother. I would always be in the cannabis mindset because I smoked too much, and cannabis has an amazing way of making you think you are sober...so I would start thinking that my delusions were reality. In a rather short period of time I became absolutely convinced that my death was impending, and it started to leave me with crippling anxiety attacks even when sober.
Luckily, I realized it was all bullshit and got over it. I'm recovering now, and while cannabis still scares the bejeezus out of me sometimes, I've remembered that it's still just a drug and I like to think I've become more in-touch with reality. I don't imagine I would have gone this route without psychedelics, but I have a friend who has never tried them and pot is still an incredibly trippy experience for him. He has described things like size distortions, complete ego death, that weird "cave-man" feeling I'm sure a lot of you are familiar with, etc. Make no mistake about it, pot is very psychedelic.
I used to smoke around a half ounce a week...not a terribly large amount, but still a decent bit since it was pretty high quality. I never could have imagined pot having effects like that, but it seems most people who smoke for a long time encounter it at some point. You'll always see those people saying "I've been a daily smoker for years, and now all of a sudden I get panic attacks!" It's just another part of the same beast, and you've just seen the tip of the iceberg my friend. Christ be with you.
P.S. I was just responding to your post, but I don't think Joe was just talking about weed. He was talking about the battle in general, weed is just a part of it.
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joemolloy
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: LongStrangeTrip]
#14848497 - 07/30/11 02:38 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah you get it, Tokinman. Its a battle with your brain, a fight with yourself, a desire against a desire and one side always wins and one side always loses. I'm never really sure which side of the war I am on though. I like to think I am on the winning side, but the victory parade and the defeated march home sorta look the same.
Flawless.
Wow...either this cannabis stuff effects all of you much differently than me, or I am a cannabis-superman, who see's all this talk about cannabis as.... retarded? unnecessary? A part of me wants to say "grow a pair, man up", and another wants to say "....huh?@?!?!?!?!".
I must be crazy because it is not this "hard" for me to deal with...
I don't understand how you find a post inquiring about potential psychological addiction to weed pointless. Its actually a thoughtful, responsible, and mature decision-making process I am engaging in. "Its just weed" is just a bunch of bullshit. It ain't just weed if after a few months I obsess about the drug, I get insomnia without the drug, and my sober happiness gradually erodes because of the drug. People better than me become habitual, daily users of the drug and my poking and prodding into their mindsets should be commended rather than ridiculed.
Actually, your post is indicative of a mind that values shallow reasoning, blind and careless action, and inflated hubris as you boldly charge into the world. Grow a pair? Grow a brain.
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: joemolloy]
#14848517 - 07/30/11 02:43 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah you get it, Tokinman. Its a battle with your brain, a fight with yourself, a desire against a desire and one side always wins and one side always loses. I'm never really sure which side of the war I am on though. I like to think I am on the winning side, but the victory parade and the defeated march home sorta look the same.
Flawless.
Wow...either this cannabis stuff effects all of you much differently than me, or I am a cannabis-superman, who see's all this talk about cannabis as.... retarded? unnecessary? A part of me wants to say "grow a pair, man up", and another wants to say "....huh?@?!?!?!?!".
I must be crazy because it is not this "hard" for me to deal with...
I don't understand how you find a post inquiring about potential psychological addiction to weed pointless. Its actually a thoughtful, responsible, and mature decision-making process I am engaging in. "Its just weed" is just a bunch of bullshit. It ain't just weed if after a few months I obsess about the drug, I get insomnia without the drug, and my sober happiness gradually erodes because of the drug. People better than me become habitual, daily users of the drug and my poking and prodding into their mindsets should be commended rather than ridiculed.
Actually, your post is indicative of a mind that values shallow reasoning, blind and careless action, and inflated hubris as you boldly charge into the world. Grow a pair? Grow a brain.
His post is indicative of someone who doesn't understand the drug they are doing, just like the vast majority of people who smoke weed. He's just never experienced the other side of Cannabis and doesn't understand its potential, so he's confused by other people's experiences. To him it's sort of like if you said you took a tiny bump of coke and then ran around the room making animal noises and jumping on shit.
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: tokinman21]
#14848559 - 07/30/11 02:51 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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I smoke it daily just because I have for a long time and It's my stuff, mary jane is my girl can't lie about that.
Quit cigarettes for my devotion to the herb, use it socially and alone, for many, many different reasons.
I do want to cut down to a few times a week to truly enjoy the high and potential of the plant.
Quitting cigs is still the best decision I've made, Marijuana has always been like "hey I don't need to smoke a joint right now" Cigs are completely different hense a new profound respect for the herb.
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LucyLove
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: AnarchyXx420xX]
#14848575 - 07/30/11 02:54 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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The question is, why not smoke it?
You get relaxed, it's not really bad for you if you use a bong or a vaporizer.
A lot of members on this forum have sleeping problems, usually weed will fix that.
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: tokinman21]
#14848587 - 07/30/11 02:58 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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I started at 13, ten years ago, and have been burning ever since. I started at once or twice a week, quit for a year, same old story. I got addicted to booze when i quit and once in college decided to quit drinking for a while. I quit for two years and blazed everyday instead. I thought it was a bad thing at first but i realized it really didn't matter much. Weed doesn't impair one to the extent of many other drugs, and it has minimal negative side effects associated with usage both in the short term and the long. Weed is a part of me now, i don't see it as drug use so much as i see drinking coffee as drug use. Pills and alcohol are what you might want to be wary of. Trust me on that one, been from opiates to booze to amphetamines and now back to booze and amps. Weed is the least of your troubles. Smoking multiple times daily for 5 years and no end in sight!
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: joemolloy]
#14848590 - 07/30/11 02:59 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Joe, do you have difficulty moderating you're other drug usage?
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LucyLove
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: GuruBushHippie]
#14848592 - 07/30/11 02:59 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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I started at 13, ten years ago, and have been burning ever since. I started at once or twice a week, quit for a year, same old story. I got addicted to booze when i quit and once in college decided to quit drinking for a while. I quit for two years and blazed everyday instead. I thought it was a bad thing at first but i realized it really didn't matter much. Weed doesn't impair one to the extent of many other drugs, and it has minimal negative side effects associated with usage both in the short term and the long. Weed is a part of me now, i don't see it as drug use so much as i see drinking coffee as drug use. Pills and alcohol are what you might want to be wary of. Trust me on that one, been from opiates to booze to amphetamines and now back to booze and amps. Weed is the least of your troubles. Smoking multiple times daily for 5 years and no end in sight!
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: joemolloy]
#14848647 - 07/30/11 03:10 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Ive been a daily weed smoker for about 5 years now. I dont think its anyone's intention really to become an every day, multiple times a day smoker. I'm kinda in a smoking rut right now - I wake up, blaze, shower, blaze, breakfast, blaze, and so on. I think that your plan sounds great though, just on the weekends. Your tolerance will definitely increase, but thats only because you would barely smoke at all during a given year. Every weekend when you smoke, you will get really really high every time, I would think so anyway. Being an everyday smoker though, maybe Im not the best judge. When I go 2 or 3 days without blazing and then toke up, I get retarded. In summation, if you can stick to this only smoking on the weekends plan, I see no problem with it. The thing is with weed, it is just so easy to just start smoking more and more of it. So if you have good self control, you should be fine. Good Luck brother
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: GuruBushHippie]
#14848665 - 07/30/11 03:14 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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joemolloy I see your point here. It does seem to become a very recreational thing. I myself have been trying to stop for a good bit for some time now. It's more hard for me since everyone I usually hang out with is either a smoker or a dealer. I'm sure I could stop if these factors weren't there.
We all stopped in February of this year, the whole month. Mainly because it was like weed famine 2011 where I'm from.
The beginning of the month was fine but the last few weeks I did feel a slight dependency kick in. By the time we actually got some I was insanely happy but I wasn't searching for other highs the whole time. I just bid my time on video games or cleaning or something.
Again, I personally think I could stop smoking weed if it weren't for my friends xD I don't really want too(I'm trying to stop just to say I did if anything) I have tried to slow it down and almost try to quit but I'm young, in college and working I like that bit of relaxtion and tranquillity after a long day of work and schooling.
Not saying my job is hard by any means just that it's 8 hours of work then bam 4 hours of class back to back. 
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I quit for two years and blazed everyday instead...Pills and alcohol are what you might want to be wary of.
At the booze issue. When I was 15-18 I drank every Saturday and then some. I always got sick and felt like shit but I kept doing it...why? Fuck I have no clue.
Since College I have basically quit drinking, I'll have a beer or three at a party but that's the extent of my drinking anymore. I smoke practically everyday with no reprocussions. Recently, I've been getting really paranoid but the heads I picked up do that.
Also most of my friends from my hometown are pillheads. It's disgusting to me. Prescription medication is absolutely terrible for you.
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It really concerns me that many people in this thread seem to share the story of "At first I thought it was really bad, but after doing it every day for so many years, now I see it's really just harmless." Do any of you think that maybe your first thought held a little more truth? Obviously it's natural to come into it with a bunch of predispositions and such, thinking it's dangerous as hell because society has told you so, but at the same time, I feel like your better judgment might have been the one before you got into doing the drug so often. 
Marijuana is psychologically addictive just as are many things that aren't drugs at all. The difference is that the feelings you get from doing drugs differ so radically from the feelings you get from anything else you could potentially get addicted to that isn't a drug. For example, no doubt video games have an addictive potential, but the feelings you get from them seem to pale in comparison to the feelings drugs can give you. Besides, you have to put in effort to get those feelings in real time. I'm not speaking against any drug use, or I wouldn't be here, but I can't understand how anybody could smoke weed every day and live up to their full intellectual potential. I always feel a little bit dumber for the day or so after I do it, then I come back to normal. If I smoked it every single day, I would never get out of that foggy haze. I'd come to live with it and see it as normal. I could never sacrifice the clear minded thinking that is taken from me temporarily for a drug. I think I'm going to end up staying far away from weed for quite a while, or at least do it extremely infrequently.
I don't want to come off like I'm preaching against it, but the point of this thread is to discuss the psychologically addictive potential of weed which is being absolutely underestimated in this thread. I think joe is right about his observations of the trends most of you are describing. Almost all of you are describing how you went from infrequent use to daily use, and don't think you could stop. It's almost like you didn't want daily use, but once you got it, you decided you were okay with it. Like I said, perhaps the former thoughts of caution and moderation mean more than the latter thoughts of acceptance. It might just be me, but I'm absolutely happy with not smoking every day, or every week for that matter. I think if I start doing it again, I'll only be doing it once a month at the most, and that's damn infrequent. To me, it's no longer worth that bit of haze that goes away, to be honest. To each his own, I guess.
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