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 Joolz
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Small doses of shrooms scramble my shit faster than big doses. The thought loops and half assed body high is just annoying. If I'm gonna feel shroomy, I wanna be ridiculous.
So I always dose high on shrooms. Its hard to overthink that experience and get scrambled I think.
All my goal is visuals, body high, and good times though. I don't take drugs and look into the spiritual or mystical sides of things. Good drugs and our already powerful mind can send you down a very different path of thinking than the rest of us if we do not have someone to check us or a very strong foot planted in reality.
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Maybe you just believe that because you have never experienced a consciousness that didn't adjust to emotional extremes and normalized things.
I believe that because no matter what I think I have experienced I am still a human with chemical emotions running through my body. I guess I can let anger and sadness effect me in the ways that it effects other people. I could let the "bad" things in life ruin it all for me like everyone else seems to do, but I decided to say fuck that. I'm going to try my hardest to be the same, consistently good person, regardless of how I am feeling.
Life for me is about the experience. When I experience sadness over something I am genuinely sad and I genuinely live in my emotion in the "now" to the best of my abilities. However, I don't let those emotions ruin anything. I still have the ability to see clearly, even though there are tears in my eyes and I'm sad over whatever just happened. Same thing with anger. Most days I don't experience a single drop of true anger. Whenever I do finally get angry, most of the time its over a miscommunication. Something small, something that doesn't matter. That's the only times I get angry anymore, and most of the time its solved after a little more communication. The trick, which most people fail, is keeping your cool long enough to solve the problem without doing anything drastic. People get angry and forget who they are. Anger is the first ego loss most people will feel.
I also don't let my anger turn to rage and my sadness into depression. I live in my emotions, I accept them, and the bad ones come with the good ones, but that doesn't mean that I can no longer enjoy life and all the spices that come with it. That also doesn't mean my emotions should turn into useless ones. Depression and rage are useless emotions. The only emotion that is acceptable to continually feel every day is happiness, which is what life is the pursuit of.
I can always find happiness inside me. I've had wayyyyyy too many good fucking times to let the uncomfortable things like sadness and anger and anything else I don't want to feel discourage me from living the most bad ass life I can possibly muster.
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tokinman21
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 Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit  [Re: Joolz]
#14835336 - 07/27/11 10:47 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Just knowing your history I'd recommend against planning days to smoke. Here's what I did:
I bought some dank bud, and said that if I didn't have good self control or wanted to smoke it constantly I just wouldn't buy more. As it turns out, the experience was intense enough that I never really ramped it up...on days I smoke I'll smoke maybe 1-3 times, typically more like 1-2. That is slowly becoming more frequent but not by much, and it's a conscious decision.
Be careful though, because as I'm guessing you already know this drug can scramble you just as much long-term as any other psychedelic if you let it get inside your head too much. 
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Love2trip
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: tokinman21]
#14835597 - 07/27/11 11:42 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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If you smoke daily, was this your early intention or did it just evolve?
Just started smoking and fell in love with maryjane lol. I hate alcohol it killed my father and grandfather and weed is just this nice chill treat to come home to after a long day.
Do (did) any of you smoke once a week like clockwork, similar to my plan? How'd that work out?
Started out just smoking with the buddies then i started buying myself like a little personal amount and from then on i always had weed and for about 4 years now ive been smoking daily.
If I smoke on Saturday, will I feel like smoking the whole damn day or is there a point when enough is enough, kind of like the Off Switch of the orgasm?
I usually only smoke 2-3 times a day and thats at night time. Even if i had no were to go and nothing to do i never would get bored that id just smoke weed all day. Im the kind of person that smokes a good joint or hits a bong then enjoys that high for 2-3 hours and maybe smoke again after that.
Would a tolerance develop with my plan? In the past few years, I've averaged about three smokes a year and weed FUCKS me up. I mean wacky psychedelic fucked up.
If you smoke daily you will deff develop tolerance. I think you wont build up tolerance as much as an understanding for what the high is like from cannabis and you maybe wont get so wrecked. Thats how i was.
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 k00laid
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: Love2trip]
#14835682 - 07/27/11 11:58 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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i smoke pretty much every day when i can afford it.
right now i cant afford it.
so i only smoke every so often 
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ManyAk
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: joemolloy]
#14835683 - 07/27/11 11:58 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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joemolloy said:
True, Joolz. Yeah, I have some thinking to do. Another alternative I'm considering is to trip on smallish doses of shrooms on Saturdays, like 2 grams or so. I know low dose shrooms wouldn't suddenly become a daily thing, but perhaps a weekly lite shroom trip might start scrambling my shit after a while.
I have tripped on 2g of shrooms 5 weeks in a row, and let me tell you that it's overkill. It's not worth it, mushrooms are not intended to be used that regurarly I think. After the fifth time, I could really notice that my grasp on reality was smaller and smaller so I stopped.
As for weed, I think it's a nice addition to a lifestyle and if you keep using it on weekends only, chances are you will almost always have a good time and not become a mindless vegetable.
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: ManyAk]
#14835721 - 07/28/11 12:04 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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i wonder if the type of weed you smoke can affect how addictive it is
say a californian plant grown organically in optimal conditions with care for the plant
vs. a plant grown underground cramped with many other plants, poor ventilation, powerful fertilisers, overpowerful artificial lighting etc etc
the plants would have two different chemical compositions of active chemicals entirely, causing totally different experiences
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mikeben
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: Love2trip]
#14835750 - 07/28/11 12:10 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Do you smoke daily, was this your early intention or did it just evolve?
I smoke almost daily but I work at home and don't do when I do have to drive or go out. It evolved but I don't exactly jones for it. It's just something I like to do. I drink less since I started.
Do (did) any of you smoke once a week like clockwork, similar to my plan? How'd that work out?
It worked fine again as long as you aren't irresoncible with it you should be cool.
If I smoke on Saturday, will I feel like smoking the whole damn day or is there a point when enough is enough, kind of like the Off Switch of the orgasm?
Depends on you. I find it nice to do before sex or sleeping. I do less then.
Would a tolerance develop with my plan? In the past few years, I've averaged about three smokes a year and weed FUCKS me up. I mean wacky psychedelic fucked up. Can I anticipate this every Saturday?Well it's what you buy. If it's strong just do a little. You will get used to it but I have never not enjoyed it
I feel like I'm standing at the edge of a cliff right now. I should know better.Don't feel bad, just find someone you can trust. Best advice is to try it for a while and if you like it do it and if you don't stop.
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Clamence
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: mikeben]
#14836026 - 07/28/11 01:08 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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I remember a friend complaining to me that when you're comfortable with smoking weed it can really become so hard not to. If you can almost always go from feeling alright to amazing, or from less than alright to more than amazing, no matter what thought processes you choose almost always ends in doing it. He never used to like it, but over a few months started smoking almost whenever someone else was, bought his own stash, and was puffing blunts like a champ in the middle of the day, leading to his discovery of the above insight.
But I think you can handle it. To try to further confine your consumption to Fri/Saturday maybe prepare all your ganja to edibles. Then you're in for more of a time commitment, and more likely to hold out for your planned upon time (less likely to think 'whatever, I'm only doing [blank] might as well get high'). With your nonexistant tolerance edibles will get you sooooo high. So high.
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 joemolloy
DMT is Bullshit
Registered: 04/12/09
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: Clamence]
#14837168 - 07/28/11 06:48 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Clamence, your post is what I don't want to happen. Its kind of like I'd just want some dirty, no-strings-attached hot sex and I don't want to fall in love and have the bitch move in with me.
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Celestial Traveler
Random Observer
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: joemolloy]
#14838134 - 07/28/11 12:59 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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joemolloy said:
Clamence, your post is what I don't want to happen. Its kind of like I'd just want some dirty, no-strings-attached hot sex and I don't want to fall in love and have the bitch move in with me.
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jellyfish
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If you smoke daily, was this your early intention or did it just evolve?
I thought the idea of doing drugs everyday was ridiculous and would slowly give me issues. However once I was around friends who smoked all day long enough it eventually seemed normal and I started as well. I smoked everyday for 6 years with almost no breaks at all.
Do (did) any of you smoke once a week like clockwork, similar to my plan? How'd that work out?
Everything seems more awesome when you're stoned so it was pretty easy for me to make exceptions on days when I had nothing to do (everyday became one of those days)
If I smoke on Saturday, will I feel like smoking the whole damn day or is there a point when enough is enough, kind of like the Off Switch of the orgasm?
I try to smoke late in the day because if I smoke early I always smoke again when I start to burn out. The time I want to smoke weed the most is when I'm already high.
Would a tolerance develop with my plan?
I think it would. I've had incredibly powerful experiences with cannabis when I first started but even after a 4 week break the high is substantially different and I think the brain changes might be permanent/very long lasting. I doubt I'll ever get to that spot again. Now it makes me anxious forgetful and antisocial when it used to do the opposite.
I'm not sure this is the best idea weed has a way of creeping up on you until one day you notice it's became a giant part of your life. It's also a pretty easy drug to make excuses on. Once I'm high I'll make an exception to a lot of things I've promised myself and the lack of motivation persists when you smoke frequently. Could all just be my own personal chemistry though. Weed is amazing because you can fiend it down and it won't kill you but the high is overhyped in my opinion.
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: jellyfish]
#14838610 - 07/28/11 02:28 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Not many drugs can be abused as safely as cannabis 
light it up 
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JimLahey
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: joemolloy]
#14838622 - 07/28/11 02:32 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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joemolloy said:
If you smoke daily, was this your early intention or did it just evolve?
I cant quite remember, I have been smoking daily pretty much since I first started, at first I was reluctant because the effects were too strong sometimes but as I grew a wee bit of a tolerance I smoked everyday with joy.
Do (did) any of you smoke once a week like clockwork, similar to my plan? How'd that work out?
For a period I was doing so, jsut because I was on probation and would smoke after my test ( a big fat blunt) then detox until the next time.
If I smoke on Saturday, will I feel like smoking the whole damn day or is there a point when enough is enough, kind of like the Off Switch of the orgasm?
Depends on the kind of weed you smoke, and how much you smoke. Sativa will keep you going no matter what, but if you get some sort of ridiculous Indica you may be glued to the couch followed by a call to dominos and then a nap. I dont usually get tired from herb but everyone is different.
Would a tolerance develop with my plan? In the past few years, I've averaged about three smokes a year and weed FUCKS me up. I mean wacky psychedelic fucked up. Can I anticipate this every Saturday?
I dont think tolerance would be a huge problem, unless you are fat and do not move around or exercise at all.
I feel like I'm standing at the edge of a cliff right now. I should know better.
Jump!
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BoldAsLove
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: joemolloy]
#14838629 - 07/28/11 02:33 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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I smoke daily. I never planned on it, it just kind of snuck up on me. Back during the school year when I had class all the time, I'd smoke only on the weekends. But slowly my workload was reduced and I had more time during the week. Then I started smoking 3-4 times a week. And this grew into 6-7 times a week, but I wan't awfully concerned. I smoke daily now, but I don't crave it. There are days where I just don't want to smoke, so I won't. I wouldn't say I had my smoking as planned out as you do.
You say that weed affects you a lot, and personally I don't like those effects. I made edibles last night, which were very fun , but I feel very "off" right now. If I got that high every time I smoked, I wouldn't smoke nearly as often. I like that weed can be a kind of "mellow" thing, just combine it with your day.
You ask about smoking the whole day, and I don't know quite how to answer that. When I smoke the one part I dread is the come down. I always feel tired and slow and just plain weird. In an effort to avoid this feeling, I smoke periodically throughout the day. But this also has a limit because I can and do get tired of being high eventually.
I don't think much of a tolerance will build up. You won't get fucked up every week, you'll get over that part pretty quick. But you can certainly expect to be getting very high.
To be honest, it is all up to you on whether or not you will start using it more. I feel that I am in control of my smoking, and I ensure that it doesn't control me. Though who knows for sure I don't build my day around smoking, I don't plan to smoke everyday, it just happens.
So yes, I do believe you are standing on the edge of a cliff. Weed is psychologically addicting, that is for sure. And it will slowly build up to daily smoking, which makes it even riskier, because it won't feel like such a big change. But then again, at that point in your life, will you be ok with smoking daily? As long as you aren't ok with it, you will be able to recognize and stop it. When you become not ok with it, stop smoking.
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: RealRollForever]
#14838691 - 07/28/11 02:45 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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I used to smoke all day everyday for about 4 yrs. It was alright but, personally, I felt stuck in this way of life. It does depend on what strain you smoke as far as receptors in your head go, but still to much of a good thing never keeps its charm. Same for shrooms. To much to often will deplete ur serotonin levels before your trip ends (eg. smoking urself sober)
Plus I think a lack of serotonin for extended periods of time will lead to depression. Anti-depressants reduce serotonin and for those who dont have a huge supply it ends in suicide way to often....not sayin quiting weed will lead to suicide just sayin depleting your serotonin to often is unhealthy.
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LongStrangeTrip
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: joemolloy]
#14838784 - 07/28/11 03:07 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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joemolloy said:
I've been thinking about incorporating weed into my life. I would plan on smoking every Friday night and Saturday and not use it during the week. I wonder if after a few months or years, I'd get the urge to smoke on weeknights and slowly turn it into a daily thing. I don't want to feel the need to habitually smoke weed. I don't want to fiend for it. Self-control has a funny way slipping away from me when I get obsessive, so I'd like to hear how you deal with weed.
If you smoke daily, was this your early intention or did it just evolve?
Do (did) any of you smoke once a week like clockwork, similar to my plan? How'd that work out?
If I smoke on Saturday, will I feel like smoking the whole damn day or is there a point when enough is enough, kind of like the Off Switch of the orgasm?
Would a tolerance develop with my plan? In the past few years, I've averaged about three smokes a year and weed FUCKS me up. I mean wacky psychedelic fucked up. Can I anticipate this every Saturday?
I feel like I'm standing at the edge of a cliff right now. I should know better.
I have not read any other posts, but man talk about being worried about some fucking cannabis 
any and all addiction or "urge" to "need" to smoke every day is completely mental, and physical in no way shape or form. AKA, any person on this earth can "overcome" it, if you can even refer to it in such epic terms.
I will give you my experience. I have smoked pretty much every day for 9-10 years. I have taken 3 or 4 multiple month breaks, on my own fruition and choosing. I have never had to "conceal" my use because of family or work or the law "drug tests I mean). I smoke every day, but I am not high all day. I wake up very early, and I am incredibly active. I am employed by a major university and full time in graduate school, currently. Sometimes I am up as early as 5am, and not home and blazing until 8 or 9, maybe even ten. But I get high every day no doubt.
Your an idiot or conning yourself if you think you "need" to be high all day. I have seen some posts of yours and I don't think your that dumb honestly... forget about your "past abuse" and laugh at the notion, because its laughable  . It may bring you comfort, relief from real or mental pain, whatever your "reasoning" (if you must put it in such silly terms as someone actually "needing" cannabis), but there is not one person that cannot overcome that feeling mentally, when people say otherwise I just don't believe them. Its more likley for someone, imo, to be convinced that they have an "addiction" to cannabis, than to actually have an "addiction" to cannabis
 
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: joemolloy]
#14839390 - 07/28/11 05:07 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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joemolloy said:
I'd like to hear how you deal with weed.
After 20 years of daily smoking, I would give the following advice.
1) Smoke late in the day, but not right before bed. This will allow you to have the experience while avoiding the temptation to get high again when it begins to wear off. It also will prevent the morning sluggishness that comes from late night bong hits.
2) Don't wake and bake. You'll end up chasing that high all day.
3) Buy and smoke the best weed you can find/afford. It takes less to get you there.
4) Avoid the temptation to take "just one more hit" when you're already there. I have been up to a 1/4 per day of the high grade for months on end due to that.
5) Vaporizer. Your lungs will thank you for it. Bong is second best.
These are not hard and fast rules for everyone, but it has worked well for me lately. Chances are that you'll end up smoking more often than you expect because it feels good. Moderation makes for a better experience over the long term, in my opinion.
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thedream
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: LongStrangeTrip]
#14839412 - 07/28/11 05:10 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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I've been smoking daily for the past 6 years with a few week long breaks here and there and you do miss it much in the same way most of us would miss a nice ice cold beer on the weekends. Just keep yourself busy with something and you'll be fine.
I do have to say though, that my tolerance has stayed about the same over the years. I only smoke <.75g a day split up between the late afternoon and later at night. Going to the gym or other related activities really helps to keep your tolerance down and helps keep the freshness of the lifestyle of daily smoking.
If you are interested in smoking try to select, if possible, strains that suits your lifestyle. Sounds like you wouldn't like some sativa dominant strains which tend to be very trippy/psychedelic. I'm thinking an indica dominant strain would suit you nicely. If you don't have access to something like that just get some decent quality stuff that won't put you on your ass and you won't feind for it so much. Just don't get in the habit of smoking before bed as already mentioned because its easy to get into the habit that way.
Try it out its just weed.
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love2shpongleIRL
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Re: I'd like insight about weed and the habit [Re: joemolloy]
#14839772 - 07/28/11 06:25 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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In my opinion, it depends on you're level of self control. With a drug like cannabis, it is easy to say fuck it and smoke when you please. My daily use started as intentional(smoke once in the evening)and I have no issue stopping with no cravings. With that level of separation between uses, you should see no real tolerance rise.
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TigerShark
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I started out giving myself boundaries. They progressed in the following manner: I would only smoke on special occasions, to I won't smoke often, to only a few times a week, to only once a day, to fuck it I need to get high.
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