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 long term effects of cannabis abuse 
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I know that cannabis is considered one of the safest recreational substances known to man. It also has been shown to have many medical and theraputic effects. I have been smoking high grade bud every single day for the last 2 years. My daily consumption is usually 1 gram, but other days i go above this.
Its hard for me to imagine that consuming a substance that changes the way your brain works, habitually, can be completely safe. So what are some of the potential effects of abusing cannabis that you have noticed or that there has been conclusive research on?
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none that I know of.
I'm sure if you're smoking a gram a day for a few years you could have trouble balancing serotonin when you're sober, which might lead to depression.
Don't quote me on this. 
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I have a brother that is pushing 50 and he smoked pot every day and the only negative effects I have noticed is he is lazy as fuck and his short term memory is shot.
That being said he lives in costa rica and fucks a bunch of girls in their early 20's all day long and is probably the happiest person I know.
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 Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Cannabis does not effect serotonin, I would be concerned about physical health effects, such as lung damage.
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Lethargy, anxiety and over thinking (often paranoia). IMO comes from long term continued use.
Not everyone and many people are capable of over riding these less desirable effects.
Personally I found it caused trouble with eating habits and I ended up getting a bad stomach which may have been from the act of smoking it.
You have to watch out with weed - when you ask people they often sit in 1 of the 2 extremes of believing its completely side effect free and benign or the other camp who think its evil gate way drug blah blah. A bit of perspective an honesty is required for these extremists.
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Increased dopamine production, leading you to not produce your own when sober. If you are a cardiac patient(even if you have unknown issues), there is an increased risk of a myocardial infarction. Short term memory deficits, etc.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: nice1]
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Lethargy, anxiety and over thinking (often paranoia). IMO comes from long term continued use.
Not everyone and many people are capable of over riding these less desirable effects.
Personally I found it caused trouble with eating habits and I ended up getting a bad stomach which may have been from the act of smoking it.
You have to watch out with weed - when you ask people they often sit in 1 of the 2 extremes of believing its completely side effect free and benign or the other camp who think its evil gate way drug blah blah. A bit of perspective an honesty is required for these extremists.
 Its a drug. It changes the most complex thing we know of(Human mind). There are bound to be adverse effects.
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love2shpongleIRL said:
Increased dopamine production, leading you to not produce your own when sober.
http://www.druglibrary.org/Schaffer/hemp/BRAIN.HTM
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According to the congressional Office of Technology Assessment, research over the last 10 years has proved that marijuana has no effect on dopamine-related brain systems
It's a long report, but a good read if you're up to it you'll learn how safe marijuana really is...
If you don't feel like reading the whole thing just go to the report and CTRL+F then paste the quote I linked in the box that appears.
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http://journals.lww.com/neuroreport/Abstract/1997/02100/Cannabinoids_excite_dopamine_neurons_in_the.14.aspx
EXTRACELLULAR recordings were used to determine the effects of cannabinoids on the activity of dopamine neurons within the ventral tegmental area (VTA) and substantia nigra pars compacta (SNC). Systemic administration of the natural psychoactive cannabinoid Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol (Δ9-THC) and the synthetic cannabimimetic aminoalkylindole WIN 55,212-2 produced dose-dependent increases in firing rate and burst firing in both neuronal populations. These effects appear to be specific as the non-psychoactive cannabidiol and the inactive enantiomer WIN 55,212-3 failed to alter either parameter of neuronal excitability. Furthermore, dopamine neurons in the VTA were more sensitive than those in the SNC to the stimulatory actions of Δ9-THC. These results may provide a mechanism by which psychoactive cannabinoids increase extracellular dopa-mine levels in mesolimbic and striatal tissues, and thereby contribute to the reinforcing effects of marijuana.
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bruuuhhh, dr greenthumb
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Its hard for me to imagine that consuming a substance that changes the way your brain works, habitually, can be completely safe.
http://www.druglibrary.org/Schaffer/hemp/BRAIN.HTM
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The discovery of a previously unknown system of cannabinoid neural transmitters is profound. While century-old questions, such as why marijuana is nontoxic, are finally being answered, new, fascinating questions are emerging - as in the case of all great discoveries.
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Currently, there is a new study going at north shore to reevaluate cannabis effect on dopamine.
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a) Short term memory loss (takes a while)
b) increasing lack of motivation (this starts from the first month you start smoking)
c) psychological addiction (sober life seems boring)
d) impression that the side effects mentioned above are not happening (thinking weed helps you concentrate, thinking it motivates you and finally, I can stop whenever I want! I just don't feel like it)
e) lower stamina, shortness of breath (takes a while)
f) tendency toward malnutrition (McDonalds is sooo much better than broccoli)
Thats pretty much all I could think of. None of these thing can ruin your life. Unless you really let that lack of motivation slow you down
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Insomnia when quitting
Emphysema
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: Patlal]
#14786073 - 07/18/11 01:41 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Patlal said:
a) Short term memory loss (takes a while)
b) increasing lack of motivation (this starts from the first month you start smoking)
c) psychological addiction (sober life seems boring)
d) impression that the side effects mentioned above are not happening (thinking weed helps you concentrate, thinking it motivates you and finally, I can stop whenever I want! I just don't feel like it)
e) lower stamina, shortness of breath (takes a while)
f) tendency toward malnutrition (McDonalds is sooo much better than broccoli)
This all depends on the person. Not everyone turns into the stereotypical "stoner" when they smoke.
Just look at Michael Phelps... He got caught smoking and it obviously didn't impair his lung capacity, stamina, or motivation.
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Thats pretty much all I could think of. None of these thing can ruin your life. Unless you really let that lack of motivation slow you down
True, those aren't really life threatening side-effects but like I said it's more about the person, not the weed.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: Patlal]
#14786232 - 07/18/11 02:12 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Patlal said:
a) Short term memory loss (takes a while)
b) increasing lack of motivation (this starts from the first month you start smoking)
c) psychological addiction (sober life seems boring)
d) impression that the side effects mentioned above are not happening (thinking weed helps you concentrate, thinking it motivates you and finally, I can stop whenever I want! I just don't feel like it)
e) lower stamina, shortness of breath (takes a while)
f) tendency toward malnutrition (McDonalds is sooo much better than broccoli)
Thats pretty much all I could think of. None of these thing can ruin your life. Unless you really let that lack of motivation slow you down
I highly disagree with tendency toward malnutrition - personally I always eat healthy, stoned or not. I hate McDick's and most fast food. Shit's gross.
I recently stopped smoking so I'm interested in seeing the effects of being sober in a couple of weeks
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Quote:
Curiousgeorge22 said:
I know that cannabis is considered one of the safest recreational substances known to man. It also has been shown to have many medical and theraputic effects. I have been smoking high grade bud every single day for the last 2 years. My daily consumption is usually 1 gram, but other days i go above this.
Its hard for me to imagine that consuming a substance that changes the way your brain works, habitually, can be completely safe. So what are some of the potential effects of abusing cannabis that you have noticed or that there has been conclusive research on?
15 years of daily use and I see no side effects. I did take a 4 year break in the middle of that tho. I was in the military. Side effects of that? Horrible sores all over my body from vaccines. Arthritis running rampid in my joints.
Thank god for weed. Helps the pain.
I was on pills for the pain. Side effects of that? Addiction, organ failure was imminent, moody as hell and had to get on depression medication which made it all worse.
I played online games for 5 years and gained 50 pounds. Now THAT'S a bad side effect.
I quit taking pills and playing online games. I smoke weed like a mad man and have for 8 years straight every day all day. I have lost 30 pounds that I gained taking pills and playing video games. I don't take prescription medication for depression or pain anymore. I just smoke weed and everything is manageable.
Side effect of smoking weed after all this time? Nothing bad at all. Quite the opposite.
My wife stopped being a huge bitch. I 'd say weed saved out marriage as well.
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My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama
Live long and prosper.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: Kada]
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Kada said:
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Curiousgeorge22 said:
I know that cannabis is considered one of the safest recreational substances known to man. It also has been shown to have many medical and theraputic effects. I have been smoking high grade bud every single day for the last 2 years. My daily consumption is usually 1 gram, but other days i go above this.
Its hard for me to imagine that consuming a substance that changes the way your brain works, habitually, can be completely safe. So what are some of the potential effects of abusing cannabis that you have noticed or that there has been conclusive research on?
15 years of daily use and I see no side effects. I did take a 4 year break in the middle of that tho. I was in the military. Side effects of that? Horrible sores all over my body from vaccines. Arthritis running rampid in my joints.
Thank god for weed. Helps the pain.
I was on pills for the pain. Side effects of that? Addiction, organ failure was imminent, moody as hell and had to get on depression medication which made it all worse.
I played online games for 5 years and gained 50 pounds. Now THAT'S a bad side effect.
I quit taking pills and playing online games. I smoke weed like a man man and have for 8 years straight every day all day. I have lost 30 pounds that I gained taking pills and playing video games. I don't take prescription medication for depression or pain anymore. I just smoke weed and everything is manageable.
Side effect of smoking weed after all this time? Nothing bad at all. Quite the opposite.
Isn't the VA great. Free pills just don't complain. My story is just like yours just a little younger.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: Cutless]
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Emphysema
Testicular cancer
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: sigma_zero] 1
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The VA never gave me shit. They gave me an honorable discharge for medical reasons. I don't get a single thing from them. I didn't even get my college money from them because I was forced into discharge before my time was up. They say the anthrax vaccine didn't do what it did and couldn't. They say it was safe and my symptoms were just coincidental.
Weed helps the pain and the depression. My body was wrecked for about 4 years after the vaccines and they just dumped me on the side of the road. Fuck the military.
I got the wife to start smoking about 3 years ago. We were on the verge of divorce because of both of our depression problems. She refused to take meds because she saw how it turned me into a zombie. She needed something because she would sit in a dark room and cry all the time for no reason. We drank to much. She would snap and break things or hit me or the kids. I got her to smoke with me and she loved it. I would say it gave us something in common to do and it saved our marriage. We would smoke a bowl and then go do stuff. She had stopped wanting to do things with anyone. It was like magic. Now you couldn't even tell she ever had a problem.
Weed saved me from addiction and depression. It helps me manage my pain and lifts my soul up. My wife is the person I married again. She dug herself out of a pit and stands in the sun smiling again. We are fit healthy people other than my arthritis. We smoke weed and it helps. I think we're better people for it and happily married still because of it.
No I don't say weed did all that, but it really REALLY helped and still helps. It was a lot of hard work, sweat, tears and rough times. Weed leveled us out and kept us sane. now were settled down and I can't be grateful enough for Cannabis. When we smoke now we do it at the end of the day when the kids are in bed. We are tokers for life and better for it. Anyone who says this sacred plant should be illegal shot be taken out back and shot for being a nuisance.
Weed saved everything I cared about and helped me get healthy again. FUCK PILLS. 
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I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do." -Robert A. Heinlein
"There is no need for temples, no need for complicated philosophies.
My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama
Live long and prosper.
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I know that cannabis is considered one of the safest recreational substances known to man.
According to who? The shit is addictive as hell and there's a long list of psychiatric disorders that come from prolonged use.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: Newlord]
#14786320 - 07/18/11 02:35 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Newlord said:
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Curiousgeorge22 said:
I know that cannabis is considered one of the safest recreational substances known to man.
According to who? The shit is addictive as hell and there's a long list of psychiatric disorders that come from prolonged use.
TROLL. NEVER ANYTHING BUT A TROLL.
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"I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them.
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do." -Robert A. Heinlein
"There is no need for temples, no need for complicated philosophies.
My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama
Live long and prosper.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: Kada]
#14786325 - 07/18/11 02:35 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Are you saying that Pot isn't addictive? You'd be wrong.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: Kada]
#14786331 - 07/18/11 02:36 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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stop for a week. lower tolerance, join the group of people here (myself included) who only smoke .2-.3 a day and manage to get uuber stoned and enjoy our highs very much
PS Newlord why are you even here?
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: Kada]
#14786333 - 07/18/11 02:37 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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NL, you come off as angry and constantly attempting to provoke an emotional response.
So badly that you even thinks you have one when you don't.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: realfuzzhead]
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stop for a week. lower tolerance, join the group of people here (myself included) who only smoke .2-.3 a day and manage to get uuber stoned and enjoy our highs very much
PS Newlord why are you even here?
Why are you here? Can you not handle people challenging your beliefs? Do you want to shut reality out and just think the old cliche of "MARIJUANNA CURES ALL, NOT ADDICTIVE, KILLS CANCER AND MORE!" "ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME MUST BE A CRAZY RIGHT WINGER!"
Even Terrance Mckenna admitted to the fact that pot didn't stop his cancer.
It's amazing that the "open minded" potheads are always telling people to listen to them and be "open minded", but when push comes to shove, they're just like the mainstream society they claim to detest, and they clam up when someone challenges them intellectually.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: Newlord]
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Newlord said:
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Curiousgeorge22 said:
I know that cannabis is considered one of the safest recreational substances known to man.
a long list of psychiatric disorders that come from prolonged use.
According to who?
Because I haven't seen it.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: blujay]
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blujay said:
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Newlord said:
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Curiousgeorge22 said:
I know that cannabis is considered one of the safest recreational substances known to man.
a long list of psychiatric disorders that come from prolonged use.
According to who?
Because I haven't seen it.
http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,2005559,00.html
http://www.schizophrenia.com/prevention/streetdrugs.html
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Conversely, data suggest that those who smoke cannabis are twice as likely to develop schizophrenia as nonsmokers. One widely publicized 2007 review of the research even concluded that trying marijuana just once was associated with a 40% increase in risk of schizophrenia and other psychotic disorders.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: Newlord]
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Newlord said:
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stop for a week. lower tolerance, join the group of people here (myself included) who only smoke .2-.3 a day and manage to get uuber stoned and enjoy our highs very much
PS Newlord why are you even here?
Why are you here? Can you not handle people challenging your beliefs? Do you want to shut reality out and just think the old cliche of "MARIJUANNA CURES ALL, NOT ADDICTIVE, KILLS CANCER AND MORE!" "ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME MUST BE A CRAZY RIGHT WINGER!"
Even Terrance Mckenna admitted to the fact that pot didn't stop his cancer.
It's amazing that the "open minded" potheads are always telling people to listen to them and be "open minded", but when push comes to shove, they're just like the mainstream society they claim to detest, and they clam up when someone challenges them intellectually.
Of course straight pot doesn't stop cancer. Studies have shown compound sin pot in uber concentration applied directly to cells halts their growth, and thereby it may in the future some derivative may be used as a treatment or preventative for cancer. Nobody claims just smoking pot cures cancer, and if they do they're retarded.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: Kada]
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The VA never gave me shit. They gave me an honorable discharge for medical reasons. I don't get a single thing from them. I didn't even get my college money from them because I was forced into discharge before my time was up. They say the anthrax vaccine didn't do what it did and couldn't. They say it was safe and my symptoms were just coincidental.
Weed helps the pain and the depression. My body was wrecked for about 4 years after the vaccines and they just dumped me on the side of the road. Fuck the military.
I got the wife to start smoking about 3 years ago. We were on the verge of divorce because of both of our depression problems. She refused to take meds because she saw how it turned me into a zombie. She needed something because she would sit in a dark room and cry all the time for no reason. We drank to much. She would snap and break things or hit me or the kids. I got her to smoke with me and she loved it. I would say it gave us something in common to do and it saved our marriage. We would smoke a bowl and then go do stuff. She had stopped wanting to do things with anyone. It was like magic. Now you couldn't even tell she ever had a problem.
Weed saved me from addiction and depression. It helps me manage my pain and lifts my soul up. My wife is the person I married again. She dug herself out of a pit and stands in the sun smiling again. We are fit healthy people other than my arthritis. We smoke weed and it helps. I think we're better people for it and happily married still because of it.
No I don't say weed did all that, but it really REALLY helped and still helps. It was a lot of hard work, sweat, tears and rough times. Weed leveled us out and kept us sane. now were settled down and I can't be grateful enough for Cannabis. When we smoke now we do it at the end of the day when the kids are in bed. We are tokers for life and better for it. Anyone who says this sacred plant should be illegal shot be taken out back and shot for being a nuisance.
Weed saved everything I cared about and helped me get healthy again. FUCK PILLS.
Fuck the military.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: Newlord]
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Newlord said:
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Curiousgeorge22 said:
I know that cannabis is considered one of the safest recreational substances known to man.
a long list of psychiatric disorders that come from prolonged use.
According to who?
Because I haven't seen it.
http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,2005559,00.html
http://www.schizophrenia.com/prevention/streetdrugs.html
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Conversely, data suggest that those who smoke cannabis are twice as likely to develop schizophrenia as nonsmokers. One widely publicized 2007 review of the research even concluded that trying marijuana just once was associated with a 40% increase in risk of schizophrenia and other psychotic disorders.
Oh yeah that's unbiased 
Also, correlation does not imply causation. Sorry... By that logic Milk causes schizophrenia too.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: blujay]
#14786399 - 07/18/11 02:48 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Last time I heard, a Rick Simpson was saying that just smoking marijuanna will cure your cancer and it seems like tons of people believe it. Go to any Rick Simpson article or youtube video and you'll see that tons of people believe that.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: Newlord]
#14786405 - 07/18/11 02:49 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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stop for a week. lower tolerance, join the group of people here (myself included) who only smoke .2-.3 a day and manage to get uuber stoned and enjoy our highs very much
PS Newlord why are you even here?
Why are you here? Can you not handle people challenging your beliefs? Do you want to shut reality out and just think the old cliche of "MARIJUANNA CURES ALL, NOT ADDICTIVE, KILLS CANCER AND MORE!" "ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME MUST BE A CRAZY RIGHT WINGER!"
Even Terrance Mckenna admitted to the fact that pot didn't stop his cancer.
It's amazing that the "open minded" potheads are always telling people to listen to them and be "open minded", but when push comes to shove, they're just like the mainstream society they claim to detest, and they clam up when someone challenges them intellectually.
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I know that cannabis is considered one of the safest recreational substances known to man.
According to who? The shit is addictive as hell and there's a long list of psychiatric disorders that come from prolonged use.
Wow, that is the most intellectual, well formulated rebuttal I've ever heard.
From everything I've seen here your a bigot, racist, and a military asshole. And you think you're any semblance of something open-minded? 
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: blujay]
#14786407 - 07/18/11 02:50 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Oh yeah that's unbiased
Yes, science is biased. Deal with it.
You want me to cite my sources, I do, then you claim they don't count because they are bias. You just cannot win against that logic.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: Newlord]
#14786412 - 07/18/11 02:50 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Last time I heard, a Rick Simpson was saying that just smoking marijuanna will cure your cancer and it seems like tons of people believe it. Go to any Rick Simpson article or youtube video and you'll see that tons of people believe that.
Lots of people are stupid, therefore -> pot is bad?
he's a proskill sharpbrain smartmaker and popular too!!!
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: Newlord]
#14786418 - 07/18/11 02:52 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Okay everyone... Stop arguing and learn the FACTS about marijuana. Especially you Newlord
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Last time I heard, a Rick Simpson was saying that just smoking marijuanna will cure your cancer and it seems like tons of people believe it. Go to any Rick Simpson article or youtube video and you'll see that tons of people believe that.
And no, Rick Simpson made highly concentrated cannabis oil which was ingested and it cured 7/10 people of cancer. He never said anything about smoking it.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: Newlord]
#14786419 - 07/18/11 02:52 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Oh yeah that's unbiased
Yes, science is biased. Deal with it.
You want me to cite my sources, I do, then you claim they don't count because they are bias. You just cannot win against that logic.
Because the Times is a scientific journal. You're hilarious. Not a very good troll either.
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Newlord
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: blujay]
#14786422 - 07/18/11 02:53 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Last time I heard, a Rick Simpson was saying that just smoking marijuanna will cure your cancer and it seems like tons of people believe it. Go to any Rick Simpson article or youtube video and you'll see that tons of people believe that.
Lots of people are stupid, therefore -> pot is bad?
he's a proskill sharpbrain smartmaker and popular too!!!
See, now you're lying by omission. You claimed that nobody believed in the idea of "just smoking pot will cure cancer", I said that they did, offered you to go see for yourself, now you are drawing some strange type of abstract argument that makes no sense.
Such dishonesty by the "open minded" pot users.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: Newlord]
#14786429 - 07/18/11 02:54 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Newlord I have never invited anyone to leave the shroomery before. Let this be the first of many times I tell you to shove off. Your a nuisance and a troll. I would ban you forever if I had the power. It isn't just this topic, it's all topics. You are NOTHING but a troll and have been from your fist day here.
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Okay everyone... Stop arguing and learn the FACTS about marijuana. Especially you Newlord
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Last time I heard, a Rick Simpson was saying that just smoking marijuanna will cure your cancer and it seems like tons of people believe it. Go to any Rick Simpson article or youtube video and you'll see that tons of people believe that.
And no, Rick Simpson made highly concentrated cannabis oil which was ingested and it cured 7/10 people of cancer. He never said anything about smoking it.
That's stupid. This Rick dildo is also stupid. It doesn't work that way, and that doesn't count as a clinical trial. both of you dissapoint.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: blujay]
#14786434 - 07/18/11 02:55 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Oh yeah that's unbiased
Yes, science is biased. Deal with it.
You want me to cite my sources, I do, then you claim they don't count because they are bias. You just cannot win against that logic.
Because the Times is a scientific journal. You're hilarious. Not a very good troll either.
Did you not even read the article? It was about the 2007 study. Oh well, I shouldn't expect adult marijuanna smokers to be able to comprehend high school level material, much less be able to read.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: blujay]
#14786464 - 07/18/11 03:01 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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That's stupid. This Rick dildo is also stupid. It doesn't work that way, and that doesn't count as a clinical trial. both of you dissapoint.
I wasn't citing it as a clinical trial... I was proving Newlord wrong on his argument that Rick Simpson claimed smoking cannabis cured cancer... He never claimed that and it just goes to show how ignorant Newlord is. His ratings reflect it.
And I highly recommend the video I linked "The Union" It's cold hard facts with all the studies cited in the film. Watch it and if you have any doubts just google search the study they are citing. It's that simple.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: Newlord]
#14786482 - 07/18/11 03:06 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Oh yeah that's unbiased
Yes, science is biased. Deal with it.
You want me to cite my sources, I do, then you claim they don't count because they are bias. You just cannot win against that logic.
Because the Times is a scientific journal. You're hilarious. Not a very good troll either.
Did you not even read the article? It was about the 2007 study. Oh well, I shouldn't expect adult marijuanna smokers to be able to comprehend high school level material, much less be able to read.
That's a personal attack. Thanks for going ad hominem. I'm neither an adult (well- legally), nor do I smoke lots of pot.
Meanwhile, I've been looking up actual sources from 2011 research (read: the news isn't research and highly manipulated by both sides of any issue) that supports the notion that some cannabinoids can inhibit some cancers.
Here's an excellent thesis research paper by a student of Ohio University on the topic
Countless peer reviewed researchers verify
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That's stupid. This Rick dildo is also stupid. It doesn't work that way, and that doesn't count as a clinical trial. both of you dissapoint.
I wasn't citing it as a clinical trial... I was proving Newlord wrong on his argument that Rick Simpson claimed smoking cannabis cured cancer... He never claimed that and it just goes to show how ignorant Newlord is. His ratings reflect it.
And I highly recommend the video I linked "The Union" It's cold hard facts with all the studies cited in the film. Watch it and if you have any doubts just google search the study they are citing. It's that simple.
Any of these people actually doing the research would tell you cannabis oil as a delivery method would likely not be sufficient to achieve the results observed in lab rats so far.
However, I wouldn't outright bar the possibility either, and considering a cancer patient's circumstance and how benign marijuanna generally is, i'd say go for it. The worst case scenario is it doesn't work and you die form cancer anyway; the cannabis oil probably wouldn't make the situation worse.
However, there is also research that has shown some cancers actually get down with THC and are exacerbated by it.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: blujay]
#14786513 - 07/18/11 03:12 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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notion that some cannabinoids can inhibit some cancers.
Yes, a harvard study confirms this.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/04/070417193338.htm
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The active ingredient in marijuana cuts tumor growth in common lung cancer in half and significantly reduces the ability of the cancer to spread, say researchers at Harvard University who tested the chemical in both lab and mouse studies.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: blujay]
#14786517 - 07/18/11 03:13 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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think he may have been banned for that post...
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blujay
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notion that some cannabinoids can inhibit some cancers.
Yes, a harvard study confirms this.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/04/070417193338.htm
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The active ingredient in marijuana cuts tumor growth in common lung cancer in half and significantly reduces the ability of the cancer to spread, say researchers at Harvard University who tested the chemical in both lab and mouse studies.
That's a good one.
Also, good riddance.
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DrGreenThumb865
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: blujay]
#14786543 - 07/18/11 03:17 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Also, good riddance.
Wait, was Newlord really banned?
Finally some peace and quiet in The Pub! 
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We should all go join police forums and berate them until we get banned and call them pigs and stuff.
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Also, good riddance.
Wait, was Newlord really banned?
Finally some peace and quiet in The Pub!
We can only hope it's true!
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: Phoenician]
#14786562 - 07/18/11 03:22 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Emphysema
Testicular cancer
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Inhaling any type of smoke can and will cause respiratory issues and increase your risk of respiratory infection as well. A recent study has shown smoking cannabis little more than doubles your risk of testicular cancer, which happens to be on the rise at a nearly parallel rate as medicinal cannabis. Many news outlets covered the story and not even NORML's science department can deny it.
http://stash.norml.org/normls-paul-armentano-on-cannabis-testicular-cancer-risk
They make a terrible attempt at downplaying it, but anybody with the ability to be unbiased will see through the smokescreen. You should read the third point in that link and let it set in.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: pwnasaurus]
#14786572 - 07/18/11 03:25 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Also, good riddance.
Wait, was Newlord really banned?
Finally some peace and quiet in The Pub!
We can only hope it's true!
Yup he's banned.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showprofile.php?User=250172
Scroll down to the bottom of that page and you'll see "User is banned." right under his signature.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: pwnasaurus]
#14786575 - 07/18/11 03:25 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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anhedonia- reduced feelings of pleasure while sober
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Also, good riddance.
Wait, was Newlord really banned?
Finally some peace and quiet in The Pub!
We can only hope it's true!
Yup he's banned.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showprofile.php?User=250172
Scroll down to the bottom of that page and you'll see "User is banned." right under his signature.
We need a :hallelujah: gremlin.
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Actually, research indicates that if you start smoking while the brain is not yet developed (approx. before you're 16 years old), the brain might take permanent damage from smoking even relatively small amounts daily. This has been shown in mice. Memory skills gets permanently damaged. However, with humans, no proof of permanent brain damage caused by cannabis has ever been found. Normal brain activity is regained after around a month of abstinence, even in severely heavy users. Naturally the mice experiment has not been recreated with humans.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: Enthrall]
#14786603 - 07/18/11 03:32 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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I smoked weed pretty much daily for 8 years. Just recently I've had to stop for probation. The biggest thing I noticed when I stopped was that I was incredibly irritable for about two weeks while my body figured out how to handle annoying shit without cannabis. As for my health, I'm in great shape, I play baseball and go on hikes and can run for long periods of time without getting winded. Mentally, I've always been sharp and I don't think cannabis abuse has changed that. Honestly, I'd say that cannabis is one of the best mind altering substances on the planet, and I eagerly await the day I can get super stoned once again.
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Also, good riddance.
Wait, was Newlord really banned?
Finally some peace and quiet in The Pub!
We can only hope it's true!
Yup he's banned.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showprofile.php?User=250172
Scroll down to the bottom of that page and you'll see "User is banned." right under his signature.
Oh thank god. I don't even know why he joined the shroomery. He obviously was just here to start shit and bring us all down.
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I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do." -Robert A. Heinlein
"There is no need for temples, no need for complicated philosophies.
My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama
Live long and prosper.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: Cutless]
#14786618 - 07/18/11 03:35 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Emphysema
Testicular cancer
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Inhaling any type of smoke can and will cause respiratory issues and increase your risk of respiratory infection as well. A recent study has shown smoking cannabis little more than doubles your risk of testicular cancer, which happens to be on the rise at a nearly parallel rate as medicinal cannabis. Many news outlets covered the story and not even NORML's science department can deny it.
http://stash.norml.org/normls-paul-armentano-on-cannabis-testicular-cancer-risk
They make a terrible attempt at downplaying it, but anybody with the ability to be unbiased will see through the smokescreen. You should read the third point in that link and let it set in.
Well I'm glad it's ball cancer, one of the few types of cancer I couldn't possibly miss.
Lopping off your nuts would suck. I have a friend who got testicular cancer at the ripe age of 19. In this day and age with hormones and prosthesis hes alright though. I'm pretty sure they also saved him some sperm.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: Cutless] 1
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Insomnia when quitting
Emphysema
Testicular cancer
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: Gastronomicus]
#14786633 - 07/18/11 03:38 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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However, with humans, no proof of permanent brain damage caused by cannabis has ever been found. Normal brain activity is regained after around a month of abstinence, even in severely heavy users.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: Kada]
#14786642 - 07/18/11 03:41 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Good riddance to retarded trolls.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: Newlord]
#14786644 - 07/18/11 03:42 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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stop for a week. lower tolerance, join the group of people here (myself included) who only smoke .2-.3 a day and manage to get uuber stoned and enjoy our highs very much
PS Newlord why are you even here?
Why are you here? Can you not handle people challenging your beliefs? Do you want to shut reality out and just think the old cliche of "MARIJUANNA CURES ALL, NOT ADDICTIVE, KILLS CANCER AND MORE!" "ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME MUST BE A CRAZY RIGHT WINGER!"
Even Terrance Mckenna admitted to the fact that pot didn't stop his cancer.
It's amazing that the "open minded" potheads are always telling people to listen to them and be "open minded", but when push comes to shove, they're just like the mainstream society they claim to detest, and they clam up when someone challenges them intellectually.
first of all I'm a "right-winger". Second of all obviously burning plant matter and inhaling it multiple times a day is NOT good for someone. I wasn;t even questioning that, what I am wondering is why is someone who is pissed off all day and spends his whole time on here flaming/getting flamed would't just find a different website?
that was a half ton of assumptions you just made about me while I wasn't even attacking you, you could of just answered the question. So really you're the one who is doing what you were making fun of
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: Cutless]
#14786679 - 07/18/11 03:49 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Emphysema
Testicular cancer
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Inhaling any type of smoke can and will cause respiratory issues and increase your risk of respiratory infection as well. A recent study has shown smoking cannabis little more than doubles your risk of testicular cancer, which happens to be on the rise at a nearly parallel rate as medicinal cannabis. Many news outlets covered the story and not even NORML's science department can deny it.
http://stash.norml.org/normls-paul-armentano-on-cannabis-testicular-cancer-risk
They make a terrible attempt at downplaying it, but anybody with the ability to be unbiased will see through the smokescreen. You should read the third point in that link and let it set in.
Well I'm glad it's ball cancer, one of the few types of cancer I couldn't possibly miss.
Lopping off your nuts would suck. I have a friend who got testicular cancer at the ripe age of 19. In this day and age with hormones and prosthesis hes alright though. I'm pretty sure they also saved him some sperm.
I wouldn't mind as long as they saved sperm. All the sex you can have without worrying about getting anyone pregnant and no mess afterwards. The only thing that'd bother me is going from a baritone to an alto.
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Insomnia when quitting
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Emphysema
Testicular cancer
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Inhaling any type of smoke can and will cause respiratory issues and increase your risk of respiratory infection as well. A recent study has shown smoking cannabis little more than doubles your risk of testicular cancer, which happens to be on the rise at a nearly parallel rate as medicinal cannabis. Many news outlets covered the story and not even NORML's science department can deny it.
http://stash.norml.org/normls-paul-armentano-on-cannabis-testicular-cancer-risk
They make a terrible attempt at downplaying it, but anybody with the ability to be unbiased will see through the smokescreen. You should read the third point in that link and let it set in.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: Cutless]
#14786834 - 07/18/11 04:16 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: Az0th]
#14786874 - 07/18/11 04:24 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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If you view your mind as a sharp sword...I would say extended marijuana use would dull your mind and memory...But periodic Marijuana use has been proven to increase creativity and Neuron function
The more you smoke the more the "Dulling" effect...A gram A day is too much in my opinion...Try using the best sensi! I usually just try to take one good bong rip instead of stacking onto your tolerance
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: TeamAmerica]
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If you view your mind as a sharp sword...I would say extended marijuana use would dull your mind and memory...But periodic Marijuana use has been proven to increase creativity and Neuron function
The more you smoke the more the "Dulling" effect...A gram A day is too much in my opinion...Try using the best sensi! I usually just try to take one good bong rip instead of stacking onto your tolerance
I've been smoking between .5 and 1g (nearly) every day for the past year or so and my ability to remember things has definitely decreased. I can easily have a phone call with someone and totally forget what the entire conversation was about 5 minutes later.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: TigerShark]
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Its not as bad as alcohol though...You can become pretty retarded after drinking a lot...I mean especially Liquor, talk about killing brain cells
No wonder extremely hard liquor is being advertised everywhere/ thought of as "kool" How fucking dumb are you going to become after you drink like that for a couple of years...Some people probably wouldn't even notice it's effect though
I think as far as any mind altering substance goes... I would say you 'Pay for what you get'
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Id have to see the testicular cancer to believe it, correlation doesn't provide causation.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: aiyobro]
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I don't believe anything any of you say. I will just continue to carry out my own experiment.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: sigma_zero]
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Everyone here should click on the link in my signature "an honest talk about marijuana". It was read by senators, congressmen, authors, and scientists on the website dailykos and debunks 99% of the marijuana is harmful myths.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: TeamAmerica]
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TeamAmerica said:
If you view your mind as a sharp sword...I would say extended marijuana use would dull your mind and memory...But periodic Marijuana use has been proven to increase creativity and Neuron function
The more you smoke the more the "Dulling" effect...A gram A day is too much in my opinion...Try using the best sensi! I usually just try to take one good bong rip instead of stacking onto your tolerance
I smoke about a gram or three a day every day. I smoke and go running, I smoke and study, I smoke and do day to day things. Nothing is dull here. I have smoked for a long time and haven't noticed anything like that at all. I just get happy and stoned. I can function as well as the next sober guy or better. No one has ever told me I have gotten dumber or duller over the years. Shit, my wife smokes all the time and has a difficult job but always ends up getting compliments about how quick and smart she is.
I think it matter what you do when your stoned. If I didn't smoke weed and just sat around all day like a lazy ass I would get a bit duller eventually.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: supernovasky]
#14788220 - 07/18/11 08:13 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Marijuana has no proven cancer risk, memory and cognitive impairment disappear within 2 weeks for even heavy smokers who quit ( so no long term damage ), is actually proven to lower the risk of Alzheimer's, and has numerous benefits ranging from stress relief to carcinosupression, from helping those with eating disorders to providing a safe alternative for muscle aches to Tylenol.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: Light My Fire]
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Cutless said:
Insomnia when quitting
Emphysema
Testicular cancer
yeah right testicular cancer?
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: Devlish2]
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everyone believe what you read. After all there has never been a medical study that was later reversed.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: supernovasky]
#14788635 - 07/18/11 09:34 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Smoking everyday is a waste in my opinion. I'm sure there are those that function perfectly whilst doing so, but I've never met anyone.
Every daily stoner that I've come across (myself included) gets mood swings, paranoia, real shitty if they can't score weed, and just put a general lack of effort into whatever they do. They also tend to brainwash themselves by citing articles on the harmlessness of pot like "Dude pot doesn't make you lazy I read this article that said it doesn't. Nah I'm not coming out cbf just smoking"
Having said that, weed is no more harmful than videogames or cheeseburgers. WAY less harmful than WoW. It is one of the last things that should be illegal imo. Just feels better ime if you smoke less.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: sigma_zero]
#14788814 - 07/18/11 10:04 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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everyone dismiss what you read. After all there has never been a medical study that was later confirmed.
See what I did thar?
I simply gave a few possible effects of cannabis abuse, as per OP's request.
It's not like I'm some biased asshole, who is against pot. If I was, I wouldn't have this half-cashed bong sitting next me. I'm just not going to delude myself by believing something ridiculous like inhaling burnt plant matter doesn't have risks. I mean for fuck's sake, you can "overdose" (per se) on water. Believing that abusive use of any substance doesn't have undeniable risks makes you just as gullible as the "drugs are bad" types who are on the opposite side of the spectrum. I'm pretty sure most people would agree that this mindset qualifies as being in denial.
Well I'm going to get my umbrella out, I just said something bad about pot, and god forbid someone do that; so there's about to be a 
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: Cutless]
#14788949 - 07/18/11 10:25 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Really, its difficult to determine "long term effects" because no IRB or remotely sane regulatory body would allow a prospective long term chronic MJ study.
All the cancer stuff is in mice or petri dishes. Its relevance to humans is speculative at best.
There is one clinical trial with cannabinoids in a select cancer population. I guarantee if it was a magic bullet cancer cure you would have heard about it by now.
The "psychological" detriments (amotivational syndrome etc.) are too difficult to separate cause and effect.
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...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: aiyobro]
#14789142 - 07/18/11 10:57 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Id have to see the testicular cancer to believe it, correlation doesn't provide causation.
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No one said it was a magic bullet we just said it halts the progress of lung cancer, lymph node cancer while giving the person good vibes man when they're gettin heady doses of chemo, so that A) they dont have to take 20-30 pills B)Can eat/crave solid food
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: aiyobro]
#14790238 - 07/19/11 03:06 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Smoking it is not good for the lungs. Ive smoked for ten years and my asthma came back and now i havent smoked in two months and im still coughing up black tar. No i did not smoke tobacco.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: detest86]
#14790259 - 07/19/11 03:20 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Smoking it is not good for the lungs. Ive smoked for ten years and my asthma came back and now i havent smoked in two months and im still coughing up black tar. No i did not smoke tobacco.
Did you smoke medical weed?
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: badchad]
#14790279 - 07/19/11 03:24 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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badchad said:
Really, its difficult to determine "long term effects" because no IRB or remotely sane regulatory body would allow a prospective long term chronic MJ study.
All the cancer stuff is in mice or petri dishes. Its relevance to humans is speculative at best.
There is one clinical trial with cannabinoids in a select cancer population. I guarantee if it was a magic bullet cancer cure you would have heard about it by now.
The "psychological" detriments (amotivational syndrome etc.) are too difficult to separate cause and effect.
Are you kidding me? Marijuana has been smoked since the dawn of recorded human history.
No deaths so far.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: Az0th]
#14790286 - 07/19/11 03:26 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Didn't read this whole thread. Let me put this simply, the facts and research are around to support it.
CANNABIS IS HEALTHY!
GOOD FOR YOU!
SMOKE IT!
EAT IT!
VAPE IT!
LOVE IT!
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: 28064212]
#14790293 - 07/19/11 03:28 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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I want to make a pool full of dank cannabis. Instead of water you'd be swimming in dankness.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: skatealex2]
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I want to make a pool full of dank cannabis. Instead of water you'd be swimming in dankness.
I'd smoke that pool.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: 28064212]
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28064212 said:
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I want to make a pool full of dank cannabis. Instead of water you'd be swimming in dankness.
I'd smoke that pool.
I'd be swimming around with a lighter in that shit.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: aiyobro]
#14790346 - 07/19/11 03:47 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Smoking it is not good for the lungs. Ive smoked for ten years and my asthma came back and now i havent smoked in two months and im still coughing up black tar. No i did not smoke tobacco.
Did you smoke medical weed?
Yes I smoked ONLY medical grade weed. Shit, what i smoked was way better than that crap they sell in dispensaries in california. Here in Texas the exotics are way higher quality. The people down here put love into the plant and not just grow it to flip a profit. At least the people I delt with.
Dont get me wrong, I still love cannabis, but only in brownies now.
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Quote:
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Currently, there is a new study going at north shore to reevaluate cannabis effect on dopamine.
it's very interesting (the effects of dopamine on the brain and the effects of Cannabis on top of that), but you clearly are one of those "i quit, so i am educating myself on how to advocate against my previous drug use - stat!" kinda postee. so i don't know if you should necessarily be pandering studies, because nothing is conclusive really yet.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: detest86]
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detest86 said:
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Smoking it is not good for the lungs. Ive smoked for ten years and my asthma came back and now i havent smoked in two months and im still coughing up black tar. No i did not smoke tobacco.
Did you smoke medical weed?
Yes I smoked ONLY medical grade weed. Shit, what i smoked was way better than that crap they sell in dispensaries in california. Here in Texas the exotics are way higher quality. The people down here put love into the plant and not just grow it to flip a profit. At least the people I delt with.
Dont get me wrong, I still love cannabis, but only in brownies now.
fuck your shit #$%@%$ the new york bud we got over here is poppin fresh
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: aiyobro]
#14790443 - 07/19/11 04:19 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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looks like a bag of sticky bud balls
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: aiyobro]
#14790570 - 07/19/11 05:14 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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lol...Ive herd about NY bud but uh, i said cali bud not ny bud. keep your dick in your pants.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: detest86]
#14790601 - 07/19/11 05:27 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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hmmmm
this guy i kno wentt to jamaica and he was tryin to score ganja the whole time so this guy is like yea mang feed the fish and he gives him a bag my friend goes back to the cruise boat opens up the bag shakes it around its full of bait
so he goes back to the guy, the dude is like alright mang i got you here just feed the fish and he gives him another bag for his money, he goes into the bathroom opens it up its another bag of fish bait he's like "fuck!"
he goes back to the guy the guys like alright man, so my friends chillen with him feeding the fish and then he gives him another bag he looks inside and shakes it, finnaly! he goes to the bathroom puts it in his sock and hops aboard the cruise when they're like where you goin, he says he has to go back to the room cuz he left something, they say alright
he gets back to the room and no one is there, he goes inside the bathroom and he opens it up, its the darkest greenest bud he's ever seen, he freakin starts smoking it out of a coke can, all of it, he gets so high he stares at a mirror the whole time and loses track of time, his eyes are fucked up, he leaves the boat sees his family finnally and are like "we've been looking for you for the last few hours, where did you go?"
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: aiyobro]
#14790610 - 07/19/11 05:31 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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hahaha?
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: detest86]
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The only problem I have with long term cannabis use is even when you don't smoke it and have been free for years, you keep questioning things, and can't take things at face value.
Which means inevitably you figure out the way the world works.
And get angry/depressed.
I'm over that now, I've enacted positive change. Do I still smoke? Of course. God gave it for us, so that when things are bad, it changes your perspectives. That's why I value it so.
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My personal experience:
I get agitated and restless when i'm not high, I feel pretty disinterested in repetitive behaviour (eg. gaming hours on end, reading hours on end or working hours on end) when i'm sober.
The first few days of not smoking leaves me with an inability/obstructrion to eat and sleep decently. Depression seeps in pretty fast when i'm not high.
My muscles feel more tense and anxiety comes around the block once in a while if i'm sober; when i'm baked I don't care. Depersonalization when I smoke myself retarded.
Tolerance and only being high for a good 1 hour then the effects wear off and you feel worn out.
I think most of it is due to making the psychological relations in your head though...
Still I love weed too much; I don't notice that much negative impact although I should take a break again soon.
I'd like to get scientific in this thread but alas that's impossible in the pub as it's either pro or contra here and no inbetween. Seriously everything has it's positive and negative sides.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: akira_akuma]
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I'm not anti drug in the least bit, I still smoke almost every night and do lots other drugs, I just think it's wrong to say that the drug has no negative effects. They may be minuscule but they are there.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: Beanhead]
#14791045 - 07/19/11 09:19 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Correct, addiction to cannabis is psychological (unlike f.ex. addiction to nicotine). However, psychological addiction can cause psychosomatic effects, like sweating and increased heart rate.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: dNORTH]
#14791324 - 07/19/11 10:44 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Are you kidding me? Marijuana has been smoked since the dawn of recorded human history.
No deaths so far.
I would probably agree that there isn't a lot of evidence for increased mortality (death) from cannabis.
The unknown issues typically involve behavioral outcomes: lack of motivation, decreased concentration, anxiety, etc.
These are extremely difficult to "measure". In addition, it's nearly impossible to separate a direct causal effect.
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...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: badchad]
#14791396 - 07/19/11 11:05 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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On the downside
- Cannabis takes away my dreams; I cannot remember them.
- When using cannabis, I need more sleep to feel rested, and I never really feel rested.
- Cannabis messes up my attention span, which is shortened to infinitesimally brief periods. Fucking theta waves.
- Smoking is bad for my lungs. I concur with the asthma argument of detest, although the fact that I do smoke tobacco makes matters worse, but the same thing happened when I smoked pure canna, but just slower. Same thing for sinuses btw.
- Procuring pot costs money. Especially if you smoke daily and a lot.
- When smoking daily, I shun from face to face contact with people more than when I don't.
- Cannabis reduced my sex drive, or at least the intent to satisfy that sex drive with the aid of other people instead of just busting a nut
- Overall job productivity gets cut by as much as 90% during some periods when I smoke daily.
- In the long run, the guilt of smoking daily leads to depression, which I then try to deal with by smoking even more, causing a self-reinforcing effect.
On the upside:
- it's relaxing
- it helps me reflect on life, work, social relationships and whatnot, and I like to think that makes me a wiser person
- it virtually eliminates any trace of aggression or impatience from my personality
- I open up easier to other people when I smoke a lot; although as stated above I don't seek out the company of others so much
- the ritual of rolling a joint is nice - the fact that I'm doing something and that it'll lead to instant improvement of my mood is nice
- it helps me deal with the depression that wreaks havoc on my entire family (there's no way that shit ain't genetic) in a much nicer and more effective way than SSRI's ever did.
So it's sort of a double-edged sword.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: detest86]
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detest86 said:
Smoking it is not good for the lungs. Ive smoked for ten years and my asthma came back and now i havent smoked in two months and im still coughing up black tar. No i did not smoke tobacco.
Did you smoke medical weed?
Yes I smoked ONLY medical grade weed. Shit, what i smoked was way better than that crap they sell in dispensaries in california. Here in Texas the exotics are way higher quality. The people down here put love into the plant and not just grow it to flip a profit. At least the people I delt with.
Dont get me wrong, I still love cannabis, but only in brownies now.
Texas isn't a medical marijuana state dude...
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: koraks]
#14792183 - 07/19/11 02:26 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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On the downside
- Cannabis takes away my dreams; I cannot remember them.
- When using cannabis, I need more sleep to feel rested, and I never really feel rested.
- Cannabis messes up my attention span, which is shortened to infinitesimally brief periods. Fucking theta waves.
- Smoking is bad for my lungs. I concur with the asthma argument of detest, although the fact that I do smoke tobacco makes matters worse, but the same thing happened when I smoked pure canna, but just slower. Same thing for sinuses btw.
- Procuring pot costs money. Especially if you smoke daily and a lot.
- When smoking daily, I shun from face to face contact with people more than when I don't.
- Cannabis reduced my sex drive, or at least the intent to satisfy that sex drive with the aid of other people instead of just busting a nut
- Overall job productivity gets cut by as much as 90% during some periods when I smoke daily.
- In the long run, the guilt of smoking daily leads to depression, which I then try to deal with by smoking even more, causing a self-reinforcing effect.
On the upside:
- it's relaxing
- it helps me reflect on life, work, social relationships and whatnot, and I like to think that makes me a wiser person
- it virtually eliminates any trace of aggression or impatience from my personality
- I open up easier to other people when I smoke a lot; although as stated above I don't seek out the company of others so much
- the ritual of rolling a joint is nice - the fact that I'm doing something and that it'll lead to instant improvement of my mood is nice
- it helps me deal with the depression that wreaks havoc on my entire family (there's no way that shit ain't genetic) in a much nicer and more effective way than SSRI's ever did.
So it's sort of a double-edged sword.
I have noticed Cannabis effects everyone differently.
I can't sleep if I smoke. I smoke and I am WIDE awake for hours. My wife goes to sleep right after smoking and it helps her sleep.
I don't want to have sex when I'm high, but my wife gets horny as hell.
I could go out in public blazed and not a single person would know. Maybe thats just from being high all the time and I'm use to it?
People always say weed is bad for your lungs. I can run with no problem at all with my lungs. I wonder what they look like. Do they look all shitty like a tobacco smoker?
I can feel my heart beating like a mad mad when I smoke and lay down. I have learned to just not smoke before bed. Sometimes when I smoke I can't breath right. I feel like my sinuses are inflamed and my throat is closing a bit. That only happens when I smoke all afternoon tho. Trips me out every time. I just tell myself I am fine and just breath normal. It goes away once I am not thinking about it. Odd I know.
I love weed, I just wish I had a vaporizer.
Oh. When I make a firecracker or brownies I have noticed it hits me 3X harder than anyone else and is lasts 2 times longer than anyone else. You give me a cannabis brownie and I will be high for 12 hours or more.
I am just more sensitive than most people?
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: Kada]
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pot effects everyone differently.
people reflect themselves on the experience... henceforth, the experience becomes about them, even if it is novelty, and then that's when problems either get resolved or come to fruition (ie the surface)
PS: like Koraks. you smoke too much weed, and thusly it effected you drastically more then it would say someone who never got into the habit of smoking weed at work and lowering productivity or smoking enough that you don't want to interact with people or have sex.
Novelty.
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I'm not anti drug in the least bit, I still smoke almost every night and do lots other drugs, I just think it's wrong to say that the drug has no negative effects. They may be minuscule but they are there.
fair enough; i coulda sworn i read post where you said you had quit some shit out of life, but maybe it was an old post?
well, regardless. there are downsides to smoking weed. just not very many, and they mainly only get exasperated when you abuse it, individually; as in to let the negatives out-weigh the positives.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: Patlal]
#14792964 - 07/19/11 05:11 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Patlal said:
a) Short term memory loss (takes a while)
b) increasing lack of motivation (this starts from the first month you start smoking)
c) psychological addiction (sober life seems boring)
d) impression that the side effects mentioned above are not happening (thinking weed helps you concentrate, thinking it motivates you and finally, I can stop whenever I want! I just don't feel like it)
e) lower stamina, shortness of breath (takes a while)
f) tendency toward malnutrition (McDonalds is sooo much better than broccoli)
Thats pretty much all I could think of. None of these thing can ruin your life. Unless you really let that lack of motivation slow you down
lol I have every single one of these and their intensity correlates with weed consumption.
I guess cancer protection comes at the price of my short term memory and not-giving-a-fuck attitude That being said I say lets get high and forget about that 
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: mellowparty]
#14794330 - 07/19/11 09:06 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Good news!
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14792484
PROOF marijuana is not linked with long term cognitive impairment. So you all can mark that off your lists of long term effects! 
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Good news!
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14792484
PROOF marijuana is not linked with long term cognitive impairment. So you all can mark that off your lists of long term effects!
Conclusions: Cessation of cannabis use appears to be associated with an improvement in capacity for recall of information that has just been learned. No other measures of cognitive performance were related to cannabis after controlling for confounds.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: mellowparty]
#14796146 - 07/20/11 04:38 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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my appetite is completely thrown off
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: justaguy]
#14796176 - 07/20/11 05:04 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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If you are smoking, i would think that lungs would be affected. And the circulatory system affected also.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: legit27]
#14796180 - 07/20/11 05:06 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Dry, red eyes.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: drr]
#14796281 - 07/20/11 06:06 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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The worst effect of smoking mariuana, is getting busted.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: starfire_xes]
#14796540 - 07/20/11 08:44 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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I think the munchies are dangerous.
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: Kada]
#14799939 - 07/20/11 10:02 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Kada said:
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TeamAmerica said:
If you view your mind as a sharp sword...I would say extended marijuana use would dull your mind and memory...But periodic Marijuana use has been proven to increase creativity and Neuron function
The more you smoke the more the "Dulling" effect...A gram A day is too much in my opinion...Try using the best sensi! I usually just try to take one good bong rip instead of stacking onto your tolerance
I smoke about a gram or three a day every day. I smoke and go running, I smoke and study, I smoke and do day to day things. Nothing is dull here. I have smoked for a long time and haven't noticed anything like that at all. I just get happy and stoned. I can function as well as the next sober guy or better. No one has ever told me I have gotten dumber or duller over the years. Shit, my wife smokes all the time and has a difficult job but always ends up getting compliments about how quick and smart she is.
I think it matter what you do when your stoned. If I didn't smoke weed and just sat around all day like a lazy ass I would get a bit duller eventually.
Well not everyone notices the effects the same...
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Re: long term effects of cannabis abuse [Re: TeamAmerica]
#14800089 - 07/20/11 10:32 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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i smoked weed everyday for the past year up until about two weeks ago. the more highs i experienced, the more my highs changed. towards the end of my smoking i started getting more and more paranoid when i smoked and this led me to start having anxiety issues even while sober. since i've quit 2 weeks ago, i've felt a lot better and more clear headed. i used to think weed was innocuous, but now i don't. for me, especially in my later use of it, but really always, weed=worry. i'm sure that's not the case for everyone.
so i just stick to lsd and shrooms now. keeps me from getting high so often, and i've never had even the slightest trace of paranoia from either one.
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