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 Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo 
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http://reason.com/blog/2011/06/30/white-house-overrides-2009-mem
The Department of Justice sent out a memo Wednesday instructing the head of the Drug Enforcement Administration and leading officials in the U.S. Attorneys Office to treat medical marijuana shops as top priorities for prosecutors and drug investigators.
"Persons who are in the business of cultivating, selling or distributing marijuana, and those who knowingly facilitate such activities, are in violation of the Controlled Substances Act, regardless of state law," the memo reads. "Consistent with resource constraints and the discretion you may exercise in your district, such persons are subject to federal enforcement action, including potential prosecution. State laws or local ordinances are not a defense to civil or criminal enforcement of federal law with respect to such conduct, including enforcement of the CSA."
The memo, authored by Deputy Attorney General James M. Cole, "clarifies" a memo released in 2009 that declared medical marijuana sales in states that have legalized it to be a low priority for law enforcement and prosecutors. The so-called "Ogden memo" first appeared to drug law reformers as evidence that President Obama was dialing back the war on drugs. The DEA and U.S. Attorneys office continued to raid and prosecute state-legal grow operations and marijuana shops after the memo was first circulated, leading reformers to conclude that Obama was lying when he said that his administration would not be doing those things.
The memo written by Cole and addressed to DEA Administrator Michele M. Leonhart and several members of the U.S. Attorney's office is a severe amendment to the Ogden memo. "The Department of Justice is committed to the enforcement of the Controlled Substances Act in all States. Congress has determined that marijuana is a dangerous drug and that the illegal distribution and sale of marijuana is a serious crime that provides a significant source of revenue to large scale criminal enterprises, gangs, and cartels," the memo reads.
"The Ogden Memorandum provides guidance to you in deploying your resources to enforce the CSA as part of the exercise of the broad discretion you are given to address federal criminal matters within your districts." The memo also says that the meaning of the Ogden memo has not changed since its writing.
Then memo continues:
[T]he Ogden Memo reiterated to you that prosecution of significant traffickers of illegal drugs, including marijuana, remains a core priority, but advised that it is likely not an efficient use of federal resources to focus enforcement efforts on individuals with cancer or other serious illnesses who use marijuana as part of a recommended treatment regimen consistent with applicable state law, or their caregivers. The term "caregiver" as used in the memorandum meant just that: individuals providing care to individuals with cancer or other serious illnesses, not commercial operations cultivating, selling or distributing marijuana.
The Department's view of the efficient use of limited federal resources as articulated in the Ogden Memorandum has not changed. There has, however, been an increase in the scope of commercial cultivation, sale, distribution and use of marijuana for purported medical purposes. For example, within the past 12 months, several jurisdictions have considered or enacted legislation to authorize multiple large-scale, privately-operated industrial marijuana cultivation centers. Some of these planned facilities have revenue projections of millions of dollars based on the planned cultivation of tens of thousands of cannabis plants.
The Ogden Memorandum was never intended to shield such activities from federal enforcement action and prosecution, even where those activities purport to comply with state law. Persons who are in the business of cultivating, selling or distributing marijuana, and those who knowingly facilitate such activities, are in violation of the Controlled Substances Act, regardless of state law. Consistent with resource constraints and the discretion you may exercise in your district, such persons are subject to federal enforcement action, including potential prosecution. State laws or local ordinances are not a defense to civil or criminal enforcement of federal law with respect to such conduct, including enforcement of the CSA. Those who engage in transactions involving the proceeds of such activity may also be in violation of federal money laundering statutes and other federal financial laws.
The above reveals that the DOJ is attempting to rewrite history, as Jacob Sullum pointed out last month:
In October 2009, David Ogden, then the deputy attorney general, sent a memo that seemed to fulfill this promise. "As a general matter," he told U.S. attorneys, they "should not focus federal resources" on "individuals whose actions are in clear and unambiguous compliance with existing state laws providing for the medical use of marijuana."
Yet the DEA's medical marijuana raids not only have continued but are more frequent under Obama than they were under George W. Bush. Americans for Safe Access (ASA), which argues that patients who can benefit from marijuana should be able to obtain it legally, counts well over 100 raids in the two years and four months since Obama's inauguration, compared to about 200 during Bush's eight years in office. "The Obama administration really is being more aggressive than the administration of his predecessor," says ASA spokesman Kris Hermes.
At first, it seemed the DEA was targeting growers and sellers who arguably were not "in clear and unambiguous compliance" with state law, since the rules for supplying medical marijuana were fuzzy in jurisdictions such as California, Colorado and Montana. But the U.S. attorney letters conclusively show that, contrary to the impression left by the Ogden memo, complying with state law provides no protection against federal prosecution.
Justice Department spokeswoman Tracy Schmaler insists there is "no inconsistency" between the recent threats and the Ogden memo, which she says "talks about not investigating sick individuals who might be in compliance with state law." Actually, the memo refers not to "sick individuals" but to "individuals" generally, and it cites as examples not only patients but "caregivers" who supply them with marijuana.
In any case, the Justice Department's distinction between patients and suppliers cannot be reconciled with Attorney General Eric Holder's description of the new policy. "The policy is to go after those people who violate both federal and state law," he said in March 2009. "Our focus will be on people, organizations that are growing, cultivating substantial amounts of marijuana and doing so in a way that's inconsistent with federal and state law."
The Ogden memo did not make medical marijuana legal, but it clearly advised federal law enforcement agencies to go after pot shops that showed signs of being tied to organized crime. From the Ogden memo, released in 2009:
Typically, when any of the following characteristics is present, the conduct will not be in clear and unambiguous compliance with applicable state law and may indicate illegal drug trafficking activity of potential federal interest:
unlawful possession or unlawful use of firearms;
violence;
sales to minors;
financial and marketing activities inconsistent with the terms, conditions, or purposes of state law, including evidence of money laundering activity and/or financial gains or excessive amounts of cash inconsistent with purported compliance with state or local law;
amounts of marijuana inconsistent with purported compliance with state or local law;
illegal possession or sale of other controlled substances; or
When I asked the White House in 2010 if continuing to raid medical marijuana dispensaries--which it had been doing less often than under Bush, but more often than never--a senior staffer told me, "Yes – that enforcement is focused on those incidences where both federal and state law are being violated – and is therefore focused largely on drug traffickers. It has not spent its limited resources on ind. patients with cancer and other serious disease."
Thanks to Tom Angell from Law Enforcement Against Prohibition for sending the memo.
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: TheMacDaddyLongLeg]
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Maybe it is time to let go of the fact that Obama is not the change we were looking for. Maybe we should start looking into Liberty a little bit.
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: TheMacDaddyLongLeg]
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Well, this is bullshit.
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: TheMacDaddyLongLeg]  1
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Maybe it is time to let go of the fact that Obama is not the change we were looking for. Maybe we should start looking into Liberty a little bit.
I'm amazed anyone thought he was.
If anyone could look at his record, his lack of experience and his overwhelming buffoonery, and yet still cast a vote for that festering, putrid asshole... well, all I can say is Thanks. Thanks a heap.
A nasty heap of manure.
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TheMacDaddyLongLeg said:
Maybe it is time to let go of the fact that Obama is not the change we were looking for. Maybe we should start looking into Liberty a little bit.
Maybe no one should have ever believed him in the first place. People blindly followed this guy like he was the coming of Christ.
So many people actually bought into his bullshit. He's just a politician. Just like any other, from any other party. When will people wake up????
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: Synthettek]
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I'd rather Bush in office than Obama.
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: skatealex2]
#14701021 - 07/01/11 12:04 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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This is the reason that states shouldn't be a state, they should be countries- What about states rights?
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I'd rather Bush in office than Obama.
Blasphemy, Not a huge fan of either but at least Obama can form a sentence. GW was just a daddy's boy and was a terrible president.
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: Spin240]
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: skatealex2]
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I'd rather Bush in office than Obama.
you said it.. Least we can see thru BUsh.. This (deleted by mod) has to many fucking colors!!
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: orison319]
#14701158 - 07/01/11 12:41 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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THey both did the same shit, Least we could blame Iraq, Afghanastan on Daddy, and Regan- But fuck Obama had nothen to do with that shit and he went after Muammar Gaddafi. All the mean while we are racking up trillions of dollars in debt, Unemployment is crazy, and the dollar does not buy what it used too. Was he not susposed to fix that shit. Now he is going to spend more tax dollars on Policing states rights. TEAM AMERIKKKA FUCK YEA
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: 2jew4u] 3
#14701241 - 07/01/11 12:59 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Obama = fail for America. When do we get a president who hasnt sold their soul?
Hey Michele Leonhart, how about going after you're own fucking DEA for approving over 50 corporate organizations to cultivate Marijuana for medication. The same Marijuana you fucks say has no medical value!
Hypocrite skank.
It is so fucking obvious they are going to let the Pharms corner the MMJ market and continue popping innocent, non-violent, growers and users.
Grow that shit people! Grow and spread it everywhere you can. Give everyone you know seeds.
Obama wants to make it an issue for them, so fucking a make it an issue for them.
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: orison319]
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I'd rather Bush in office than Obama.
you said it.. Least we can see thru BUsh.. This (deleted by mod) has to many fucking colors!!
Racism ain't cool, bro. Makes you look ignant.
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: 2jew4u]
#14701297 - 07/01/11 01:08 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Even If states rights mattered now days' to any of these crooks the constitution would still protect your right to liberty. It is a civil rights issue, everything is when it comes to government controlling morality. You should have a right to do what you please as long as it hurts no one else, it is your personal responsibility.
Obama doesn't care for we the people.
This president has taken more of a dictatorial roll than any president has in history. He led us into an illegal war, He is now starting to say screw congress, I can raise the debt ceiling without the authority. At the same time he has fulfilled zero campaign promises, chipped away further into our rights, continued to run up trillion dollar deficits. The guy is a king, The emperor to our empire. He gets to decide which laws to follow and which ones to break.
I'm just going to flat out say it. If this country can't come to terms this election cycle to the fact that EVERY SINGLE PERSON RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT IS STATUS QUO. You have to look at these peoples records, you must look and see what they have been voting for, what industries has it helped. We have to elect someone who is strict, principled, and on the record. Who has given great regard to the constitution and human rights. We need a champion of freedom. When we find that guy we have to elect him or assume destruction.
Edited by TheMacDaddyLongLeg (07/01/11 04:33 PM)
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: grubbs]
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grubbs said:
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I'd rather Bush in office than Obama.
you said it.. Least we can see thru BUsh.. This nigger has to many fucking colors!!
Racism ain't cool, bro. Makes you look ignant.
It just shows the type of ignorant people who would want Bush in office.
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: TheMacDaddyLongLeg]
#14701322 - 07/01/11 01:14 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Well if all you Black men And Latinos would quit rape ing white women when you get high, it would be legal. Obama know that shits fact, not fascist propaganda Look how he was born . and if he smoked weed he would have married a white woman.
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: W4E2E0D]
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W4E2E0D said:
Obama = fail for America. When do we get a president who hasnt sold their soul?
Hey Michele Leonhart, how about going after you're own fucking DEA for approving over 50 corporate organizations to cultivate Marijuana for medication. The same Marijuana you fucks say has no medical value!
Hypocrite skank.
It is so fucking obvious they are going to let the Pharms corner the MMJ market and continue popping innocent, non-violent, growers and users.
Grow that shit people! Grow and spread it everywhere you can. Give everyone you know seeds.
Obama wants to make it an issue for them, so fucking a make it an issue for them.
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: I R Crankey]
#14701467 - 07/01/11 01:45 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Sick of the tug-of-war game they're playing with us.
But I'm not too worried about it the long run.
I feel like there are too many people who know the truths about
the health risks/benefits of MMJ to let this be the end of it.
It just sucks that there are even more people who haven't a clue.
Only time will fix things.
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: MGMT]
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GOD DAMNIT!
my friend just opened his new dispensary yesterday!
FUCKING OBAMA YOU GOD DAMN PUPPET
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In case anyone wants to contact the White House.
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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luvdemshrooms said:
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TheMacDaddyLongLeg said:
Maybe it is time to let go of the fact that Obama is not the change we were looking for. Maybe we should start looking into Liberty a little bit.
I'm amazed anyone thought he was.
If anyone could look at his record, his lack of experience and his overwhelming buffoonery, and yet still cast a vote for that festering, putrid asshole... well, all I can say is Thanks. Thanks a heap.
A nasty heap of manure.
Hey, let's not insult manure like that. What did it to deserve that kind of insult??
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: PassiveAgressive]
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I lost it with uncontrollable laughter at this point.
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Congress has determined that marijuana is a dangerous drug and that the illegal distribution and sale of marijuana is a serious crime that provides a significant source of revenue to large scale criminal enterprises, gangs, and cartels," the memo reads.
You think they would've realized by now that "legal" distribution" is the only way to take that money out of the hands of "ciminal enterprises."
Lets play a game called - Just how incompetent is the United States government?
Ill start; The United States government is so incompetent, they try to solve drug crime with violent crime. 
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: Mr.Monsanto]
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Guess I better stock up on hash oil while the co-ops are still in business. I think MMJ will eventually win out
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: TheMacDaddyLongLeg]
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Maybe it is time to let go of the fact that Obama is not the change we were looking for. Maybe we should start looking into Liberty a little bit.
what he said
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: The Influence]
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Typically, when any of the following characteristics is present, the conduct will not be in clear and unambiguous compliance with applicable state law and may indicate illegal drug trafficking activity of potential federal interest:
unlawful possession or unlawful use of firearms;
violence;
sales to minors;
financial and marketing activities inconsistent with the terms, conditions, or purposes of state law, including evidence of money laundering activity and/or financial gains or excessive amounts of cash inconsistent with purported compliance with state or local law;
amounts of marijuana inconsistent with purported compliance with state or local law;
illegal possession or sale of other controlled substances; or
When I asked the White House in 2010 if continuing to raid medical marijuana dispensaries--which it had been doing less often than under Bush, but more often than never--a senior staffer told me, "Yes – that enforcement is focused on those incidences where both federal and state law are being violated – and is therefore focused largely on drug traffickers. It has not spent its limited resources on ind. patients with cancer and other serious disease."
So basically the executive branch of the federal government gets to decide when state laws are broken (as opposed to the state judicial branch) and when they decide they are, they use the DEA to come in (a federal agency) and smash the place in order to intimidate and demoralize the medical marijuana community and then charge the people for federal crimes based on state law violations which are never proven via due process (because due process doesn't work that way anyway so they can't).
85% of the country supports medical marijuana. But because the administration primarily serves the interests of all the industries that would rightfully crumble when their products are replaced with marijuana, they had to take a year or two to come up with an Orwellian public relations plan to create the illusion that they follow the will of the people.
"We're only prosecuting people who we have personally decided are bad, even though we don't have to prove they're bad and don't have any authority to prosecute them for being bad under the rules we claim but don't have to prove they are breaking."
Talk about being pulled over by the weight of your own cancerous balls.
Edited by 5-HT2A (07/01/11 04:51 PM)
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: TheMacDaddyLongLeg]
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I guess we'll just have to keep drinking alcohol and smoking cigarettes since they clearly want us to do drugs that kill us faster.
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: TheMacDaddyLongLeg]
#14702331 - 07/01/11 05:06 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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TheMacDaddyLongLeg said:
Even If states rights mattered now days' to any of these crooks the constitution would still protect your right to liberty. It is a civil rights issue, everything is when it comes to government controlling morality. You should have a right to do what you please as long as it hurts no one else, it is your personal responsibility.
Obama doesn't care for we the people.
This president has taken more of a dictatorial roll than any president has in history. He led us into an illegal war, He is now starting to say screw congress, I can raise the debt ceiling without the authority. At the same time he has fulfilled zero campaign promises, chipped away further into our rights, continued to run up trillion dollar deficits. The guy is a king, The emperor to our empire. He gets to decide which laws to follow and which ones to break.
I'm just going to flat out say it. If this country can't come to terms this election cycle to the fact that EVERY SINGLE PERSON RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT IS STATUS QUO. You have to look at these peoples records, you must look and see what they have been voting for, what industries has it helped. We have to elect someone who is strict, principled, and on the record. Who has given great regard to the constitution and human rights. We need a champion of freedom. When we find that guy we have to elect him or assume destruction.
Someone like...Ron Paul!
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: PassiveAgressive]
#14702359 - 07/01/11 05:14 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Obama you just lost alot of weed smokers votes you fuckin asshole!
Hope he doesn't get reelected
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: i like cow poo]
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Told ya so, Obama supporters. Obama is doing no good for the people, as I stated he wouldn't countless time over many years, even before he was elected.
Continuing to vote for mainstream candidates in a flawed and corrupt system is just going make this much harder to undo.
Put a stop to this puppet act by voting for someone who will actually make a dent. Do more than just read or listen to a candidate's thoughts on the issues, do some research into their voting records, how long have they felt about a particular issue the way they do? Do research into the US constitution and find out if the candidate even follows the laws they are meant to. Lastly look at their personal life, past careers, past government involvement. Then ask yourself, 'is this who I want to be representing this country?'
Most people just listen to the debates on television and assume that's enough information to make a well-rounded vote, it's definitely not. Television is the saddest excuse for information ever.
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ShiVersblood
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: highdroponics]
#14702657 - 07/01/11 06:21 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Obama lied regarding weed!!!!!!
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SummerDaisies
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: skatealex2]
#14702681 - 07/01/11 06:24 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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skatealex2 said:
I'd rather Bush in office than Obama.
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: SummerDaisies]
#14702782 - 07/01/11 06:48 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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I'm registering Republican this year and voting for Ron Paul in the primaries. It's the only way to get a meaningful candidate in office.
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: beachedjesus]
#14703179 - 07/01/11 08:01 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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beachedjesus said:
I guess we'll just have to keep drinking alcohol and smoking cigarettes since they clearly want us to do drugs that kill us faster.
Or that create more profits for the pharmaceutical industry in the process of us dying.
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sk8fast
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: Odd_Nonposter]
#14703201 - 07/01/11 08:05 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Obama is just another whitey, fucking us over as usual.
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guest1
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: sk8fast]
#14703975 - 07/01/11 11:00 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Is it too late to retract my vote?
Ron Paul 2012, hopefully he isn't lying about his bold claims like all presidents do.
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2jew4u
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: guest1]
#14704008 - 07/01/11 11:07 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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We need a Jimmy Carter type president again, maybe with a litle more Balls, but least he had good fortitude.
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gamer4life
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: PassiveAgressive]
#14704854 - 07/02/11 02:15 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Ron Paul 2012 is the only way we can assure our freedom from the government for 4 extra years. Come on guys lets say fuck every other issue in the world and just vote for Ron Paul just in the name of freedom. If you don't everyone else running next year besides Gary Johnson wants to make drug penalties stronger and longer. So which direction are you going to choose 4 steps back or 10 steps forward. What good is the economy if you can't enjoy your privacy, freedom, civil liberties?
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occollegeboi
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: 2jew4u]
#14704857 - 07/02/11 02:16 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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This country is so sad.
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: occollegeboi]
#14705111 - 07/02/11 03:53 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Good riddance to the "pot shops." They've been strangling the growers for long enough and were always destined to ruin the scene. Even though it's ugly now ultimately this will bring it back to the growers where it belongs. 
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: muistrue]
#14706875 - 07/02/11 04:16 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Before Obama took office I was reading statements that suggested his administration would be more lenient on Marijuana...guess they were wrong.
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5-HT2A
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: gamer4life]
#14707643 - 07/02/11 07:54 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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gamer4life said:
Ron Paul 2012 is the only way we can assure our freedom from the government for 4 extra years. Come on guys lets say fuck every other issue in the world and just vote for Ron Paul just in the name of freedom. If you don't everyone else running next year besides Gary Johnson wants to make drug penalties stronger and longer. So which direction are you going to choose 4 steps back or 10 steps forward. What good is the economy if you can't enjoy your privacy, freedom, civil liberties?
Ron Paul aint' gonna change jack shit. That's why he's on TV, because he doesn't care. If he cared about you, you wouldn't be allowed to hear his point of view. The people who run things aren't going to let somebody who's against their own interests into the whitehouse, it would be like digging their own grave. I mean who do you think owns the TV stations? I'll give you a hint, it's not the public.
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: 5-HT2A]
#14708026 - 07/02/11 09:24 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Ron Paul aint' gonna change jack shit. That's why he's on TV, because he doesn't care. If he cared about you, you wouldn't be allowed to hear his point of view. The people who run things aren't going to let somebody who's against their own interests into the whitehouse, it would be like digging their own grave. I mean who do you think owns the TV stations? I'll give you a hint, it's not the public.
I really do see where your coming from, as I am a long time MSM hater. It's hard not to notice that the media has been talking about good things more and more lately and as always paul has been a long standing champion of liberty.
I think it has everything to do with people waking up in general because truth always wins, and people are waking up and taking notice.
It would make absolutely no sense for a 70 year old man who has dedicated his entire life to human rights and the philosophy of self ownership and liberty to say "GOTCHA GUYS". He has never approved for government stealing any money from you via taxes. He is against anything that is unconstitutional, So he votes no 99% of the time. Ron paul has already done a lot for liberty. just look at his voting record, look at the bills he has introduced. Look at how many people he has helped spread truth too.
To most it seems obvious but to a few I come across they don't catch on as fast as the rest of us. Our system was set up so that even one man could restore the constitution and bring back the rule of law that shackles an opressive government if the people wanted it that way, so violent revolution doesn't become inevitable.
You honestly have no other options than ron paul. It is either him or dive further into corporatist fascism which is, by the looks of things already getting pretty dangerous.
I mean hey why not give it a shot anyways? Would it kill you to throw away 30 minutes of your life at the polls to help fix everything that was fucked up in this world? It certainly wouldnt hurt anything. Are people really getting this lazy?
Edited by TheMacDaddyLongLeg (07/02/11 09:40 PM)
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: TheMacDaddyLongLeg]
#14708044 - 07/02/11 09:27 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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I'll vote for Ron Paul. If he fucks us over, well, I can't say I didn't expect it.
At this point I'm just waiting for the world to end. Its over for our race, we let the greedy fucks into power.
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: TheMacDaddyLongLeg]
#14708466 - 07/02/11 10:45 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Ron Paul aint' gonna change jack shit. That's why he's on TV, because he doesn't care. If he cared about you, you wouldn't be allowed to hear his point of view. The people who run things aren't going to let somebody who's against their own interests into the whitehouse, it would be like digging their own grave. I mean who do you think owns the TV stations? I'll give you a hint, it's not the public.
I really do see where your coming from, as I am a long time MSM hater. It's hard not to notice that the media has been talking about good things more and more lately and as always paul has been a long standing champion of liberty.
I think it has everything to do with people waking up in general because truth always wins, and people are waking up and taking notice.
It would make absolutely no sense for a 70 year old man who has dedicated his entire life to human rights and the philosophy of self ownership and liberty to say "GOTCHA GUYS". He has never approved for government stealing any money from you via taxes. He is against anything that is unconstitutional, So he votes no 99% of the time. Ron paul has already done a lot for liberty. just look at his voting record, look at the bills he has introduced. Look at how many people he has helped spread truth too.
To most it seems obvious but to a few I come across they don't catch on as fast as the rest of us. Our system was set up so that even one man could restore the constitution and bring back the rule of law that shackles an opressive government if the people wanted it that way, so violent revolution doesn't become inevitable.
You honestly have no other options than ron paul. It is either him or dive further into corporatist fascism which is, by the looks of things already getting pretty dangerous.
I mean hey why not give it a shot anyways? Would it kill you to throw away 30 minutes of your life at the polls to help fix everything that was fucked up in this world? It certainly wouldnt hurt anything. Are people really getting this lazy?
I can see where 5-HT2A is coming from as well, but I agree with TheMacDaddyLongLeg. Ron Paul's voting record speaks for itself. And you write him off as another no-good politician simply because he's periodically in the news, but notice the media DOES do a lot to ignore him, especially by omission and talking about other candidates while leaving Ron Paul out of the conversation entirely. This has been VERY blatant and obvious in Yahoo news in particular. Next time you are on the front page of Yahoo and there is a news article about the GOP race, read it and you will notice there is little to no mention of Ron Paul, and if he is acknowledged, it is typically in a negative manner.
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scifipirate
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: Celestial Traveler]
#14708571 - 07/02/11 11:11 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Well shit who were we supposed to vote for McCain? You only get 2 choices in this country.
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2jew4u
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: scifipirate]
#14708709 - 07/02/11 11:48 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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McCain wouldn't have been so bad really- He just doesn't have a personality, Nixon Esq,And doesn't AZ have medical pot? And open carry laws? Maybe he really would have gotten out of the wars also, since he was in Vietnam
Edited by 2jew4u (07/02/11 11:51 PM)
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scifipirate
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: 2jew4u]
#14712086 - 07/03/11 07:51 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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it's like Collin Quin said, democracy is better than fascism cuz you get a second choice -_-
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snoot
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: scifipirate]
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The memo written by Cole and addressed to DEA Administrator Michele M. Leonhart and several members of the U.S. Attorney's office is a severe amendment to the Ogden memo. "The Department of Justice is committed to the enforcement of the Controlled Substances Act in all States. Congress has determined that marijuana is a dangerous drug and that the illegal distribution and sale of marijuana is a serious crime that provides a significant source of revenue to large scale criminal enterprises, gangs, and cartels," the memo reads.
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The memo written by Cole and addressed to DEA Administrator Michele M. Leonhart and several members of the U.S. Attorney's office is a severe amendment to the Ogden memo. "Congress has determined that marijuana is a drug and that the legal distribution and sale of marijuana is a serious business that provides a significant source of revenue to large scale cooporations, governments, private enterprises."
This is no surprise really, even right after he was in office, they were still busting people and taking people down. There is two kinds of Obama, there is preelection Obama and President Obama. Two totally different people, different views, different styles, different agendas, same lies, same lame voice, same shitty politician. Hopefully people will learn from this, ... I dont hold much hope for that tho, people will replay this mistake in a decade or so, or two years. lol Its funny how the republicans are running on the platform of CHANGE haha. 
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: snoot]
#14719008 - 07/05/11 08:04 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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> There is two kinds of Obama, there is preelection Obama and President Obama.
I disagree. There is one type of Obama... the liar Obama... There are two types of people... those that believe his lies and those that don't. A whole lot of people are starting to see the light, recognizing Obama's promises of change and hope for the lies that they are.
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snoot
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: Seuss]
#14719593 - 07/05/11 11:15 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Seuss said:
> There is two kinds of Obama, there is preelection Obama and President Obama.
I disagree. There is one type of Obama... the liar Obama... There are two types of people... those that believe his lies and those that don't. A whole lot of people are starting to see the light, recognizing Obama's promises of change and hope for the lies that they are.
he has changed alot since being elected, but I guess this could be said for just about any president.
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highdroponics
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: Seuss]
#14719868 - 07/05/11 12:44 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Seuss said:
> There is two kinds of Obama, there is preelection Obama and President Obama.
I disagree. There is one type of Obama... the liar Obama... There are two types of people... those that believe his lies and those that don't. A whole lot of people are starting to see the light, recognizing Obama's promises of change and hope for the lies that they are.
Any candidate that promises anything other than troop movement is lying. Obama was an obvious fraud from the beginning, people were told countless times that Obama is the same as any other candidate, just with better ability at getting a whole mass of peoples' attention with his words. He knew just what to say and just how to say it to get people to vote for him. He is a great motivational speaker, for those who are blind to the tricks he and many other candidates pull.
America is vulnerable right now because of how easily manipulated everyone has become, people seem to hop on the first bandwagon for 'change', but what does change actually mean? There are a lot of great ideas as to what the government should do for the people, but the question is, does the government even have authority to do so to begin with? Why are we wanting the government to continue breaking rules just to help out the people?
Personally I believe the poor are just as much to blame as the rich, expecting government handouts like Obamacare is a good way of building bad government. There is reasoning as to why it's illegal for our government to form programs like that and it's not just to ruin the lives of those who are less fortunate, it's to protect our liberties, for everyone. Of course no one can take a step back from their own lives to see that, people are very greedy and selfish, it only makes sense that the people running our government are the same way.
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2jew4u
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: highdroponics]
#14720920 - 07/05/11 04:50 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Yea dont want obama care or Medicare- Why keep grand ma alive till she is 200- mean really- Our geriatric population is crazy-and expensive
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dshow
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Re: Obama administration declares open season on all medical marijuana dispensaries in new DOJ memo [Re: 2jew4u]
#14726372 - 07/06/11 04:39 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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I was just watching season.. 5? on Weeds.
The guys like its ok. Obama is now president. . .. . .. .
we can open up a legal store....
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