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 Re: Gary Johnson stands up to Sean Hannity over marijuana legalization  [Re: gamer4life]
#14538124 - 05/30/11 11:50 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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It looks like the end of the drug war is coming at last. So many candidates are speaking of legalizing, educating, and regulating this time around and this gives me hope. Lets just hope we don't have another Obama.
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Re: Gary Johnson stands up to Sean Hannity over marijuana legalization [Re: limestoneman]
#14539380 - 05/31/11 07:53 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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^ There are only two people talking about educating and legalizing anything and both of them are going to get crushed. Do not support the imperialist war and drug war supporting parties - the Republicans and Democrats.
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limestoneman
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Re: Gary Johnson stands up to Sean Hannity over marijuana legalization [Re: dondoodle]
#14540013 - 05/31/11 12:11 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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^ There are only two people talking about educating and legalizing anything and both of them are going to get crushed. Do not support the imperialist war and drug war supporting parties - the Republicans and Democrats.
I've been a Ron Paul fan since 07. Albeit, I know he ain't gonna make it, it's nice to hope sometimes.
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Re: Gary Johnson stands up to Sean Hannity over marijuana legalization [Re: limestoneman]
#14540025 - 05/31/11 12:15 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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I've been a Ron Paul fan since 07. Albeit, I know he ain't gonna make it, it's nice to hope sometimes.
What most people don't realize, a lot of people who supported Ron Paul went with Obama in the end. (Including Myself)... He promised change, and that's what this country needed the most. But once he was elected the only thing that changed was his views, he was all talk. I think Ron Paul has a fighting chance this time around.
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Re: Gary Johnson stands up to Sean Hannity over marijuana legalization [Re: DrGreenThumb865]
#14541914 - 05/31/11 07:58 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Ron Paul has almost zero chance due to his stance on social security and medicare.
Now me personally I have no problem destroying social security because it is being used to finance war - 2.5 trillion directly stolen so far.
However I on principal will never vote for a Democrat or Republican because they are both imperialist and drug war architects and mass murderers who will not allow the corporate party to be reformed from within.
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Re: Gary Johnson stands up to Sean Hannity over marijuana legalization [Re: dondoodle]
#14542052 - 05/31/11 08:32 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Ron Paul has almost zero chance due to his stance on social security and medicare.
Now me personally I have no problem destroying social security because it is being used to finance war - 2.5 trillion directly stolen so far.
Could you post when you got that information about social security being used to finance war. I don't doubt you in the slightest, but I want to show someone this information and have proof to back it up.
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Re: Gary Johnson stands up to Sean Hannity over marijuana legalization [Re: Harri]
#14542744 - 05/31/11 11:11 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Ron Paul has almost zero chance due to his stance on social security and medicare.
Now me personally I have no problem destroying social security because it is being used to finance war - 2.5 trillion directly stolen so far.
Could you post when you got that information about social security being used to finance war. I don't doubt you in the slightest, but I want to show someone this information and have proof to back it up.
I would be more than happy to.
First we have this US government treasury source showing the macro picture. The "intrgovernmental debt" is the total amoung stolen (they say borrowed) from the so called trust funds.
http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?application=np
Here is some evidence showing that the 2.5 trillion was taken from social security. There are plenty of other sources for this though it is a well established although not much talked about fact. http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ssf/2010/03/social_security_to_start_cashi.html
In order to prove that the money went from social security to war all you have to do is look for a the US Federal budget for any fiscal year in the past 30 years and you will have the proof. Look in the last 10 though to prove the point. I will leave that least one for you to look up but I do have a link I can post for you if need be.
It is a little more complicated than that but as far as the big picture the US government spends over or near 50% of the Federal discretionary spending on war year after year. Keep in my mind social security has never run a yearly deficit although they say that this year it will by a small margin.
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Edited by dondoodle (05/31/11 11:16 PM)
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Re: Gary Johnson stands up to Sean Hannity over marijuana legalization [Re: dondoodle]
#14543328 - 06/01/11 01:07 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Its amazing how someone who claims to be a constitutional conservative thinks that the constitution relates to everything 'except for...drugs.....gay marriage...etc' I see no 'except for' clause in the constitution.
What tells me Ron Paul is DANGEROUS to the establishment is the fact that both the left MSNBC/CNN/etc and the right FOX are giving him almost ZERO exposure. Gary Johnson got some....but I haven't heard a word on the news for the last 2 weeks about either of these guys. I keep hearing everybody harping about Sarah Palin and Chris Christy.....people that aren't even running.
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Re: Gary Johnson stands up to Sean Hannity over marijuana legalization [Re: starfire_xes]
#14544574 - 06/01/11 08:48 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Johnson and Paul will never have a chance to fight it out at the ballot box. It will never happen, and there is one simple reason why. It does not matter how many people support them, or how hard they campagin through the primaries; it does not even matter how much support they get in the primaries.
They will never have a chance because the GOP will never back them. End of story, neither will ever run for president, they will never ever make it through the primaries. Never going to happen.
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