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OfflineThe Ecstatic
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Re: Jesus Is Buried in Kashmir. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14497819 - 05/23/11 08:34 AM (2 years, 28 days ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
Yeah it's possibly today, 2000 years later, to possibly live to 120.

Not in the ancient Middle East, where the life expectancy was closer to 40.





keep in mind that this life expectancy doesnt account for higher infant
mortality rates, deaths by wars or other means and just leads you to assume
that the average Shimon died at the age of 40, in all actuality there were
many that lived past that time in into their 80s. King David died of old age
after having ruled for 40 years, he was in his 30s when he took the throne
leaving him in his 70s as was King Nebuchadnezzar II




So a poor Jewish carpenter lived twice as long as the wealthiest men in the continent?

mkay.


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Re: Jesus Is Buried in Kashmir. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #14497834 - 05/23/11 08:42 AM (2 years, 28 days ago)

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The Ecstatic said:

So a poor Jewish carpenter lived twice as long as the wealthiest men in the continent?

mkay.



Genetics man. Even the son of God can't mess with that shit :thumbup:


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Re: Jesus Is Buried in Kashmir. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #14497844 - 05/23/11 08:46 AM (2 years, 28 days ago)

Quote:

The Ecstatic said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

The Ecstatic said:
Yeah it's possibly today, 2000 years later, to possibly live to 120.

Not in the ancient Middle East, where the life expectancy was closer to 40.





keep in mind that this life expectancy doesnt account for higher infant
mortality rates, deaths by wars or other means and just leads you to assume
that the average Shimon died at the age of 40, in all actuality there were
many that lived past that time in into their 80s. King David died of old age
after having ruled for 40 years, he was in his 30s when he took the throne
leaving him in his 70s as was King Nebuchadnezzar II




So a poor Jewish carpenter lived twice as long as the wealthiest men in the continent?

mkay.




does money keep you alive longer than everyone else? would it have done so
at a time in which a heart transplant was completely unfathomable? as I've
seen it, money allows you to lead a more decadent lifestyle which as we
know would lead to an earlier death, for instance in the 70s as opposed to
the 80s or 90s


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Re: Jesus Is Buried in Kashmir. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14497851 - 05/23/11 08:49 AM (2 years, 28 days ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

The Ecstatic said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

The Ecstatic said:
Yeah it's possibly today, 2000 years later, to possibly live to 120.

Not in the ancient Middle East, where the life expectancy was closer to 40.





keep in mind that this life expectancy doesnt account for higher infant
mortality rates, deaths by wars or other means and just leads you to assume
that the average Shimon died at the age of 40, in all actuality there were
many that lived past that time in into their 80s. King David died of old age
after having ruled for 40 years, he was in his 30s when he took the throne
leaving him in his 70s as was King Nebuchadnezzar II




So a poor Jewish carpenter lived twice as long as the wealthiest men in the continent?

mkay.




does money keep you alive longer than everyone else? would it have done so
at a time in which a heart transplant was completely unfathomable? as I've
seen it, money allows you to lead a more decadent lifestyle which as we
know would lead to an earlier death, for instance in the 70s as opposed to
the 80s or 90s




While true, I just can't see how a man 2,000 years ago could outlive anyone in our modern world.


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Re: Jesus Is Buried in Kashmir. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #14497921 - 05/23/11 09:25 AM (2 years, 28 days ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
While true, I just can't see how a man 2,000 years ago could outlive anyone in our modern world.



You'd be surprised. As long as a balanced diet (and sufficient food) could be obtained, there's no reason why people 2000 years ago couldn't be as old as today, especially if they didn't live in a crowded city with bad sanitation. If you look at the huge improvements in general health and life expectancy in the Western world over the past 200 years, then those are for a large part attributable to correcting issues that weren't there (or less widespread) 2000 years ago. Examples are bad sanitation in large cities, bad air quality, and reduction of bad habits such as smoking or bad dietary habits (not completely solved even today...). Certainly, the prevention and treatment of common diseases is much better these days, but not everyone contracts pneumonia or pox.


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Re: Jesus Is Buried in Kashmir. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14497945 - 05/23/11 09:35 AM (2 years, 28 days ago)



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Re: Jesus Is Buried in Kashmir. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #14497953 - 05/23/11 09:39 AM (2 years, 28 days ago)

a point to ponder, in today's modern age we have processed fatty foods with
chemicals and preservatives, more people with habits like smoking, etc... and
we of course have modern medicine which prolongs our lifespans artificially,
if we took the doctards out of the equation would modern man live longer than
man 2000 years ago where smoking was very uncommon as were most vices, where
foods were more often cooked fresh every day from things grown by the family
without the use of pesticides and chemical treatments to stimulate growth


no, on average man didnt live live longer because we didnt understand how
diseases worked, we hadnt developed cures/treatments for many of the
things we have today, if you'd gotten penumonia back then you probably
have a 30% chance of survival instead of today's 95%. small pox, TB, a
host of other ailments that we've all but eradicated in the last 200 years
because we've gained  a better understanding but let's look at the facts,
genetics play a large role in the life of a person, diet and exercise play
another major role, if we eliminate the disease, war and other outside
variables who would you say lived the healthier lifestyle, which era would
have lived longer


it's more than probable that people lived longer then than we're led to
believe but as I mentioned, they're averaging the lifespan not on the
individuals that managed to live past 40 but on the whole of the
population, thus the death from outside influences affect us, since the
majority of men today dont go to war every 10-12 years, since infant
mortality if far lower and since we now have modern medicine to keep us
alive long bast what our normal expiration date would be via drugs,
treatments and surgeries, we live as the human race longer today but to
say there's no way a person then would live longer than a person today is
absolutely ludicrous, to base it on something like wealth is even dumber

in my family, without the aid of doctards people live into their mid 90s
to early 100s, my great aunt lived to be 103, she was still alert and
active, drank, smoked and raised her own food, worked in her garden and in
the winter her pipes would freeze and she'd have to draw water from the
well and use an outhouse, her husband lived to 99 and did all the same
things, her sister lived to 94, dipped snuff, ate fatty foods, etc... none
of them went to doctors because genetics allowed for their long life, they
lived primitively almost as they would have 2000 years ago


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Re: Jesus Is Buried in Kashmir. [Re: robbyberto]
    #14497954 - 05/23/11 09:39 AM (2 years, 28 days ago)



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Re: Jesus Is Buried in Kashmir. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14498224 - 05/23/11 11:48 AM (2 years, 27 days ago)

All good points, it's definitely plausible for someone to have lived to 120, but extremely unlikely.  Especially for someone who travels and comes in contact with thousands of people.


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Re: Jesus Is Buried in Kashmir. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #14498706 - 05/23/11 02:06 PM (2 years, 27 days ago)

I dont believe he'd have lived to 120, as I said, that kind of longevity is
usually because of a lack of birth record or what have you, 113-116 seems to
be about the maximum, I can believe that the oldest people back then were
maybe in their late 80s or 90s


edit... after checking, the oldest ever verified was 122yrs


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Re: Jesus Is Buried in Kashmir. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14498976 - 05/23/11 03:00 PM (2 years, 27 days ago)

this reminds me of a time in 6th grade when some black girl tried telling me her grandma was 160 years old, and used to be a slave.  Despite showing her the guiness book she still insisted her grandma was older.

point: people will believe anything on faith.


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Re: Jesus Is Buried in Kashmir. [Re: Phychotron]
    #14499496 - 05/23/11 04:57 PM (2 years, 27 days ago)

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Phychotron said:
this reminds me of a time in 6th grade when some black girl tried telling me her grandma was 160 years old, and used to be a slave.  Despite showing her the guiness book she still insisted her grandma was older.

point: people will believe anything on faith.




Sorta like your unshakable faith in the Guinness Book of World Records to be totally accurate and exhaustive? :facepalm:


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Re: Jesus Is Buried in Kashmir. [Re: BlindSophist]
    #14499655 - 05/23/11 05:29 PM (2 years, 27 days ago)

some kid in my class has a polish grandpa thats 110

and they say polish people are a bunch a dumb fucks!


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Re: Jesus Is Buried in Kashmir. [Re: aiyobro]
    #14499667 - 05/23/11 05:32 PM (2 years, 27 days ago)

I wonder how long we'll be able to live once doctors can grow replacement organs for us.  The big hurdle after that would be replacing the brain, which will probably require you to upload your consciousness onto a hard drive of sorts.

Imagine being 200 and looking 20.  :feelsweirdman:


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Re: Jesus Is Buried in Kashmir. [Re: The Ecstatic] * 2
    #14499806 - 05/23/11 06:02 PM (2 years, 27 days ago)

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Imagine being 200 and looking 20. 





I'm 43 and have the body of an 18 year old, I'll have to bury it soon because it's starting to stink a little


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Re: Jesus Is Buried in Kashmir. [Re: BlindSophist]
    #14501435 - 05/23/11 11:20 PM (2 years, 27 days ago)

no i was a pretty smart kid and already knew that was too old for humans...


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