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Do girls ever make the first move?
    #14277696 - 04/12/11 02:17 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

I've only had a girl initiate sex once. Every other time i'm always making the first move.

This is kind of nerve wracking for a guy. Shy girls rarely show signs of interest and never make the first move.

(girls) Do you typically like it when the guy makes the first move? Have you ever been in really awkward situations where you wish he didn't make the move?

Also how many guys have met girls who do make the first move? Do you do it on the first date or wait a little?


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Re: Do girls ever make the first move? [Re: Anonymous #1] * 1
    #14277832 - 04/12/11 02:50 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

It is the guy's job to make the first move, regardless of what type of girl it is.  Usually the girls who make the first move are sluts, and that's why girls with self-respect don't usually do that shit.

As a male, it is your job to take responsibility for the subconscious desire to fuck each other.  This is also necessary because it helps weed out which girls are worth the stress of making a move and which ones are not.

Being alpha means being on top and in control.  Any guy that is too much of a pussy to make a move probably HAS a pussy and would much rather take a big cock up it than man up and make a move.


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Re: Do girls ever make the first move? [Re: shimishimiman]
    #14277858 - 04/12/11 02:55 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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shimishimiman said:
It is the guy's job to make the first move, regardless of what type of girl it is.  Usually the girls who make the first move are sluts, and that's why girls with self-respect don't usually do that shit.

As a male, it is your job to take responsibility for the subconscious desire to fuck each other.  This is also necessary because it helps weed out which girls are worth the stress of making a move and which ones are not.

Being alpha means being on top and in control.  Any guy that is too much of a pussy to make a move probably HAS a pussy and would much rather take a big cock up it than man up and make a move.



you are right but.


i myself dont have the bawls to walk up to a chick and flirt with her , for one because i have no clue if she has a bf or if she would be interested at all.


the other reason is she will prob think im a creep or perhaps not her type.


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Re: Do girls ever make the first move? [Re: Anonymous #1] * 1
    #14277860 - 04/12/11 02:55 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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I've only had a girl initiate sex once. Every other time i'm always making the first move.

This is kind of nerve wracking for a guy. Shy girls rarely show signs of interest and never make the first move.

(girls) Do you typically like it when the guy makes the first move? Have you ever been in really awkward situations where you wish he didn't make the move?

Also how many guys have met girls who do make the first move? Do you do it on the first date or wait a little?




When it comes to girls, we DO make first moves, but they're way more subtle than the moves we expect to have made ON us.

Our first move looks more like "making ourselves available".  We hang around near you, smile at you, laugh at your jokes, talk indirectly about things we'd love to see and do in our lives, and from there, it's up to you guys to pick up on it and take the lead if you like us too.  We will rarely ask directly.

We also treat you badly to see if you'll let us do it - and we lose respect and sexual attraction if you let us get away with it.  Look up the concept of a "shit test" for more of what I mean.

PS: If you don't have the balls to risk rejection, you'll get "chosen" by a woman who senses your weakness and will take advantage of you for it.  And don't think I mean sexually, either.  Sure, you'll get that initially to hook you in, but once that happens (and guys who don't get it often get hooked easily) she'll cut out the sex, drain you emotionally, financially, and probably then cheat on you in the end.  Find your balls, man.


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Re: Do girls ever make the first move? [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #14277897 - 04/12/11 03:01 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

This chick knows what's up, I strongly advise you take her word for it.


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Re: Do girls ever make the first move? [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #14277913 - 04/12/11 03:04 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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Anonymous said:
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Anonymous said:
I've only had a girl initiate sex once. Every other time i'm always making the first move.

This is kind of nerve wracking for a guy. Shy girls rarely show signs of interest and never make the first move.

(girls) Do you typically like it when the guy makes the first move? Have you ever been in really awkward situations where you wish he didn't make the move?

Also how many guys have met girls who do make the first move? Do you do it on the first date or wait a little?




When it comes to girls, we DO make first moves, but they're way more subtle than the moves we expect to have made ON us.

Our first move looks more like "making ourselves available".  We hang around near you, smile at you, laugh at your jokes, talk indirectly about things we'd love to see and do in our lives, and from there, it's up to you guys to pick up on it and take the lead if you like us too.  We will rarely ask directly.

We also treat you badly to see if you'll let us do it - and we lose respect and sexual attraction if you let us get away with it.  Look up the concept of a "shit test" for more of what I mean.

PS: If you don't have the balls to risk rejection, you'll get "chosen" by a woman who senses your weakness and will take advantage of you for it.  And don't think I mean sexually, either.  Sure, you'll get that initially to hook you in, but once that happens (and guys who don't get it often get hooked easily) she'll cut out the sex, drain you emotionally, financially, and probably then cheat on you in the end.  Find your balls, man.



Spot on.


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Re: Do girls ever make the first move? [Re: shimishimiman] * 1
    #14277979 - 04/12/11 03:17 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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It is the guy's job to make the first move, regardless of what type of girl it is.  Usually the girls who make the first move are sluts, and that's why girls with self-respect don't usually do that shit.

As a male, it is your job to take responsibility for the subconscious desire to fuck each other.  This is also necessary because it helps weed out which girls are worth the stress of making a move and which ones are not.

Being alpha means being on top and in control.  Any guy that is too much of a pussy to make a move probably HAS a pussy and would much rather take a big cock up it than man up and make a move.



I've never made the first move. This has ended up in random sex on the spot. These girls that have done this are usually reserved.

Sorry bro, but I personally don't like fucking everything in sight, maybe you can call a girl a slut, but guys can also be sluts :commonsense: Anyways, I'd rather be the guy who makes the girl think that either A) I'm fucking with her mind B) I'm that one guy who isn't like the others

Also, if you're going to be fighting for a girl, I find that to be quite childish, cause it ends up in a fist fight or the girl choosing sides. Call me a virgin if you want, but I've had my share of sex doing this, I've almost never failed, because the girls aren't used to a guy who is so open and honest.


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Re: Do girls ever make the first move? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #14277999 - 04/12/11 03:21 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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Anonymous said:
I've only had a girl initiate sex once. Every other time i'm always making the first move.

This is kind of nerve wracking for a guy. Shy girls rarely show signs of interest and never make the first move.

(girls) Do you typically like it when the guy makes the first move? Have you ever been in really awkward situations where you wish he didn't make the move?

Also how many guys have met girls who do make the first move? Do you do it on the first date or wait a little?




I've been both been initiated sex on, and been made first general approach on, and that was by a shy girl.


Fighting for a girl is never a good option. And you have the illusion that you make the move on girl, so therefore you make the girl like you, and therefore you have control -- but in the end, you need to make a girl choose you, which  speaks for itself. Girls choose and initiate, not guys. Usually guy just expresses that he is capable of initiation, so he is worthy of womans attention.

Women are selective, men are opportunistic, so we don't really choose, we just go for the meat.


Edited by Simms (04/12/11 03:26 PM)


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Re: Do girls ever make the first move? [Re: Simms]
    #14278025 - 04/12/11 03:26 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

Girls rarely make first moves. Its happened to me a couple times.

id say 1:50 ratio


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Re: Do girls ever make the first move? [Re: dshow]
    #14278048 - 04/12/11 03:30 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

she just started jerking me off and im like "i dont even know your name" ahaha


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Re: Do girls ever make the first move? [Re: shimishimiman]
    #14278224 - 04/12/11 04:07 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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shimishimiman said:
It is the guy's job to make the first move, regardless of what type of girl it is.  Usually the girls who make the first move are sluts, and that's why girls with self-respect don't usually do that shit.

As a male, it is your job to take responsibility for the subconscious desire to fuck each other.  This is also necessary because it helps weed out which girls are worth the stress of making a move and which ones are not.

Being alpha means being on top and in control.  Any guy that is too much of a pussy to make a move probably HAS a pussy and would much rather take a big cock up it than man up and make a move.




I'm not saying sex necessarily.

I've had someone who definitely wasn't a slut make the first move. She didnt just go for it, she just showed interest by the way she held my hand, then i took it from there.


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Re: Do girls ever make the first move? [Re: shimishimiman] * 2
    #14278341 - 04/12/11 04:32 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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It is the guy's job to make the first move, regardless of what type of girl it is.  Usually the girls who make the first move are sluts, and that's why girls with self-respect don't usually do that shit.

As a male, it is your job to take responsibility for the subconscious desire to fuck each other.  This is also necessary because it helps weed out which girls are worth the stress of making a move and which ones are not.

Being alpha means being on top and in control.  Any guy that is too much of a pussy to make a move probably HAS a pussy and would much rather take a big cock up it than man up and make a move.




Bullshit! Stop making up rules that are only in your head and that don't have anything to do with the laws of human nature.
OP, I'm assuming that the reason why girls usually don't make the first move is a cultural thing and not becuse they don't wanna get laid. Personally, I never even felt any meaningful amount of sexual attraction to passive girls. It's kind of stupid, imo, to pass so much fun just because you might be considered a slut. Anyone so stupid isn't worth it. :shrug:


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Re: Do girls ever make the first move? [Re: MushroomTrip] * 1
    #14278374 - 04/12/11 04:40 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

I thinks it's more of a self-conscious thing than intellect.:wink:


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Re: Do girls ever make the first move? [Re: thoughts]
    #14278444 - 04/12/11 04:53 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

Yes, girls rarely make the fist move but if they like you enough they will. My current GF made the first move on me and I'm glad she did. She was also the first one to say "I love you."


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Re: Do girls ever make the first move? [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #14278534 - 04/12/11 05:05 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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Bullshit! Stop making up rules that are only in your head and that don't have anything to do with the laws of human nature.
OP, I'm assuming that the reason why girls usually don't make the first move is a cultural thing and not becuse they don't wanna get laid. Personally, I never even felt any meaningful amount of sexual attraction to passive girls. It's kind of stupid, imo, to pass so much fun just because you might be considered a slut. Anyone so stupid isn't worth it. :shrug:




I'm just wondering if it happens. I rarely see it happen. Its definitely hot when a girl "wants it". And i'm not just saying sex. For a girl to initiate a kiss is even hot. It is against social norms though.

And a girl isn't a slut for making the first move :shrug: If she goes around jumping on everyones dick she's a slut. But just because she shows 1 guy that she likes him doesn't mean she's a slut.


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Re: Do girls ever make the first move? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #14278659 - 04/12/11 05:26 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

surprised yogabunny hasn't replied to this thread, she usually replies to these types of threads :shrug:


has anyone seen her recently btw? i hope she didn't end up in prison or whatever.


anyway, yeah, fighting over a girl is bullshit. and 95% of chicks(if not more) usually think it's ok to fight over a chick, and will do it to people. it's something their brain can't comprehend. because of the way society works, chicks usually do fit into one category or the other

a) they are hoes, and initiate. the chicks that initiate are way more fun, at first, but you pay later. i've learned this the hard way. initiating chicks are awesome because they climb all over you, but end up being fucking hoes.

b) they take years to pick up, but are reserved for people they want. these can be an indecisive, pain in the ass, in major ways. but you can rely on them not going for every single guy they see



society is unfortunately like this. and it is bullshit. but the 'hoes' whether straight out hoe and honest, or bullshit type ho. will make you fight over them with another dude, this type of thing is quite predictable unless you are a newbie to this sort of thing. but it sucks. you have to watch out for it.


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Re: Do girls ever make the first move? [Re: imachavel]
    #14278674 - 04/12/11 05:30 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

:rofl2:


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Re: Do girls ever make the first move? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #14279726 - 04/12/11 09:17 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

I hear it's largely cultural.  In a country like Brazil, it's quite common for women to initiate things.  In America, women tend to fear that they'll be vilified as sluts if they do something like that.


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Re: Do girls ever make the first move? [Re: Silversoul]
    #14280170 - 04/12/11 10:20 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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a) they are hoes, and initiate. the chicks that initiate are way more fun, at first, but you pay later. i've learned this the hard way. initiating chicks are awesome because they climb all over you, but end up being fucking hoes.

b) they take years to pick up, but are reserved for people they want. these can be an indecisive, pain in the ass, in major ways. but you can rely on them not going for every single guy they see






Remember i'm not necessarily saying the first move is climbing onto a guy's cock.

It could be something very simple like a kiss. Or grabbing a guys hand to get his attention.


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Re: Do girls ever make the first move? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #14280813 - 04/12/11 11:54 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

I've had a heap of girls make moves on me. I might be an outlier though. I do not mind it in the slightest, although sometimes it does surprise me. A couple weeks ago I met this girl while we were studying with a mutual friend. She was smokin too. She left after a couple hours there, and texted the mutual friend asking what I thought of her. I said she was cute and he said yeah well you got a green light. "Just like that?!" It was actually kind of a letdown because I enjoy a little suspense and tension though.

Bottom line it happens. For me it happens enough that I have only once needed to really pursue a girl to make shit happen. I ain't trying to brag either, honestly I'm a bit oblivious to what the draw is but fuck it I hope it lasts.


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Re: Do girls ever make the first move? [Re: Grok]
    #14280962 - 04/13/11 12:16 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

the only times girls have made moves on me is when they get a little alcohol in them... otherwise it's usually me making the first move.


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Re: Do girls ever make the first move? [Re: TTT]
    #14282500 - 04/13/11 09:05 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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Anonymous said:
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Anonymous said:
I've only had a girl initiate sex once. Every other time i'm always making the first move.

This is kind of nerve wracking for a guy. Shy girls rarely show signs of interest and never make the first move.

(girls) Do you typically like it when the guy makes the first move? Have you ever been in really awkward situations where you wish he didn't make the move?

Also how many guys have met girls who do make the first move? Do you do it on the first date or wait a little?




When it comes to girls, we DO make first moves, but they're way more subtle than the moves we expect to have made ON us.

Our first move looks more like "making ourselves available".  We hang around near you, smile at you, laugh at your jokes, talk indirectly about things we'd love to see and do in our lives, and from there, it's up to you guys to pick up on it and take the lead if you like us too.  We will rarely ask directly.

We also treat you badly to see if you'll let us do it - and we lose respect and sexual attraction if you let us get away with it.  Look up the concept of a "shit test" for more of what I mean.

PS: If you don't have the balls to risk rejection, you'll get "chosen" by a woman who senses your weakness and will take advantage of you for it.  And don't think I mean sexually, either.  Sure, you'll get that initially to hook you in, but once that happens (and guys who don't get it often get hooked easily) she'll cut out the sex, drain you emotionally, financially, and probably then cheat on you in the end.  Find your balls, man.



Spot on.





well that sounds about spot on, but next time don't make a post about someone having balls and then post anonymously :smirk:


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Re: Do girls ever make the first move? [Re: imachavel]
    #14283191 - 04/13/11 12:51 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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Anonymous said:
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Anonymous said:
I've only had a girl initiate sex once. Every other time i'm always making the first move.

This is kind of nerve wracking for a guy. Shy girls rarely show signs of interest and never make the first move.

(girls) Do you typically like it when the guy makes the first move? Have you ever been in really awkward situations where you wish he didn't make the move?

Also how many guys have met girls who do make the first move? Do you do it on the first date or wait a little?




When it comes to girls, we DO make first moves, but they're way more subtle than the moves we expect to have made ON us.

Our first move looks more like "making ourselves available".  We hang around near you, smile at you, laugh at your jokes, talk indirectly about things we'd love to see and do in our lives, and from there, it's up to you guys to pick up on it and take the lead if you like us too.  We will rarely ask directly.

We also treat you badly to see if you'll let us do it - and we lose respect and sexual attraction if you let us get away with it.  Look up the concept of a "shit test" for more of what I mean.

PS: If you don't have the balls to risk rejection, you'll get "chosen" by a woman who senses your weakness and will take advantage of you for it.  And don't think I mean sexually, either.  Sure, you'll get that initially to hook you in, but once that happens (and guys who don't get it often get hooked easily) she'll cut out the sex, drain you emotionally, financially, and probably then cheat on you in the end.  Find your balls, man.



Spot on.





well that sounds about spot on, but next time don't make a post about someone having balls and then post anonymously :smirk:




Perhaps it's because I don't want the little boys 'round here PMing me for relationship advice? :smile:


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Re: Do girls ever make the first move? [Re: Grok] * 1
    #14283241 - 04/13/11 01:00 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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I've had a heap of girls make moves on me. I might be an outlier though. I do not mind it in the slightest, although sometimes it does surprise me. A couple weeks ago I met this girl while we were studying with a mutual friend. She was smokin too. She left after a couple hours there, and texted the mutual friend asking what I thought of her. I said she was cute and he said yeah well you got a green light. "Just like that?!" It was actually kind of a letdown because I enjoy a little suspense and tension though.

Bottom line it happens. For me it happens enough that I have only once needed to really pursue a girl to make shit happen. I ain't trying to brag either, honestly I'm a bit oblivious to what the draw is but fuck it I hope it lasts.




Careful man, it's a trap.

It's all fun and games when it's dating, but as soon as the marriage and baby carriage comes into the picture and you're obligated financially and legally, if you let your woman lead the pace/direction of your relationship you'll end up one of those 40 year olds with 2 kids, lots of debt, no sex, and a wife who either nags a lot or is emotionally disconnected at best, or having an affair with someone who relieves her of the responsibility of leading at worst.


It doesn't always happen of course, but visit some marriage forums and use their experiences to learn from without it having to be first hand...


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Re: Do girls ever make the first move? [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #14283523 - 04/13/11 02:00 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

I had a girl make the first move once

I was 16 and she was with my best friend, I met up with them and then she slipped her phone number in my back pocket.. called her up the next day, went for a walk and by the end of the day I asked her out (stuttered asking her out, I got really embarassed - was kinda shy lol), we went out for 4 months and then she moved 3 states away which kinda ruined everything

Wouldn't of done it though unless she had done that


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Re: Do girls ever make the first move? [Re: Uzziel]
    #14283609 - 04/13/11 02:19 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Do girls ever make the first move? [Re: Moronicus]
    #14285522 - 04/13/11 08:06 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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Also, if you're going to be fighting for a girl, I find that to be quite childish, cause it ends up in a fist fight or the girl choosing sides. Call me a virgin if you want, but I've had my share of sex doing this, I've almost never failed, because the girls aren't used to a guy who is so open and honest.




This is a good point as well. In EVERY case where a woman was to be faught for, she ended up lying and cheating to the person who 'won'. As soon as it comes down to a fight, It's always been in my best interest, (whether I've done it or not), to cede and back the fuck off.

It can hurt their feelings...but fuck it. They were NEVER ultimately worth it.



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Re: Do girls ever make the first move? [Re: numonkei]
    #14286830 - 04/13/11 11:30 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

Fighting for a chick isn't worth it. When you fight for her she knows she owns you.


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Re: Do girls ever make the first move? [Re: TrustYourSelf]
    #14288754 - 04/14/11 09:50 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

My g/f and I hardly ever have sex anymore...been together about 6 years and yeah, I have to initiate everything....I wish once, she would just throw me down and let me have it, but alas, no dice...


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    #14288841 - 04/14/11 10:27 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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My g/f and I hardly ever have sex anymore...been together about 6 years and yeah, I have to initiate everything....I wish once, she would just throw me down and let me have it, but alas, no dice...




That blows. Sex isn't as fun when she doesn't want it. It was the hottest when my ex would just hop on me.


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Re: Do girls ever make the first move? [Re: TrustYourSelf]
    #14288895 - 04/14/11 10:46 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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My g/f and I hardly ever have sex anymore...been together about 6 years and yeah, I have to initiate everything....I wish once, she would just throw me down and let me have it, but alas, no dice...




That blows. Sex isn't as fun when she doesn't want it. It was the hottest when my ex would just hop on me.



She's a good girl, just isn't very 'sexual'...I still love her to death though :-)

Problem is, since we dont do it very often, when we do, im like a loaded gun with a hair trigger, so the problem just compounds from there...vicious cycle, but againm I love her to death


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She's a good girl, just isn't very 'sexual'...I still lover her to death though :-)

Problem is, since we dont do it very often, when we do, im like a loaded gun with a hair trigger, so the problem just compounds from there...vicious cycle, but againm I love her to death




Jerk off in the off-season. Make sure you go down on her. If you can eat a girl out she'll beg for it :P

Does she usually orgasm when you fuck?


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    #14288920 - 04/14/11 10:54 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

She gives me head sometimes in the off season, lol...Man, she probably only gets off like once a month :facepalm:

She just dont "need" sex that much :shrug:


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    #14288924 - 04/14/11 10:57 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

She told me from the beginning, she doesn't like to be gone down on...I still do on rare occasions, but ya....


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    #14288987 - 04/14/11 11:18 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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She gives me head sometimes in the off season, lol...Man, she probably only gets off like once a month :facepalm:

She just dont "need" sex that much :shrug:




Maybe you could find something that gets her off easier. Does she ever ride you? My ex would always have a huge orgasm while riding me.

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She told me from the beginning, she doesn't like to be gone down on...I still do on rare occasions, but ya....




Maybe she had a few bad experiences? I had an ex like that. Once you really know what they like they tend to love it.


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    #14288997 - 04/14/11 11:20 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

Thats how she gets off the best, is either riding me or when I pick her up and do her in the air....Just never get around to doing anything...Its a work in progress though, more sex = more orgasms = more happiness = less sexual anxiety :feelsgoodman:


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Thats how she gets off the best, is either riding me or when I pick her up and do her in the air....Just never get around to doing anything...Its a work in progress though, more sex = more orgasms = more happiness = less sexual anxiety :feelsgoodman:




That sucks :frown:

Next time you fuck her make sure she gets to ride her man. And grab her hips if you don't already. Chicks love that shit.


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IM ON IT!:awethumb:


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    #14289661 - 04/14/11 01:53 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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    #14290937 - 04/14/11 05:55 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

Generally, I think the guy should make the first move physically. It shouldn't be all that hard to gauge whether a girl at least wants to kiss you. And then you just go from there..


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Re: Do girls ever make the first move? [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #16084867 - 04/13/12 02:47 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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I've only had a girl initiate sex once. Every other time i'm always making the first move.

This is kind of nerve wracking for a guy. Shy girls rarely show signs of interest and never make the first move.

(girls) Do you typically like it when the guy makes the first move? Have you ever been in really awkward situations where you wish he didn't make the move?

Also how many guys have met girls who do make the first move? Do you do it on the first date or wait a little?




When it comes to girls, we DO make first moves, but they're way more subtle than the moves we expect to have made ON us.

Our first move looks more like "making ourselves available".  We hang around near you, smile at you, laugh at your jokes, talk indirectly about things we'd love to see and do in our lives, and from there, it's up to you guys to pick up on it and take the lead if you like us too.  We will rarely ask directly.

We also treat you badly to see if you'll let us do it - and we lose respect and sexual attraction if you let us get away with it.  Look up the concept of a "shit test" for more of what I mean.

PS: If you don't have the balls to risk rejection, you'll get "chosen" by a woman who senses your weakness and will take advantage of you for it.  And don't think I mean sexually, either.  Sure, you'll get that initially to hook you in, but once that happens (and guys who don't get it often get hooked easily) she'll cut out the sex, drain you emotionally, financially, and probably then cheat on you in the end.  Find your balls, man.




Really liked your post. It's sad though that people can't be more direct without all the shadiness.


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Re: Do girls ever make the first move? [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #16088087 - 04/14/12 07:35 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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  Sure, you'll get that initially to hook you in, but once that happens (and guys who don't get it often get hooked easily) she'll cut out the sex, drain you emotionally, financially, and probably then cheat on you in the end.  Find your balls, man.



Sounds like marriage lol. :congrats:


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Re: Do girls ever make the first move? [Re: preschooler]
    #16091667 - 04/15/12 02:17 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

When you've been together for ten years

It's funny what happens
Like some times I did dent want sex cuz I would hav to hear her bitch
But then  we argue then she gets nice and at the right moment I be like
Let's do it in the woods and it works if I say it at right time

It's like

Can I
No
Come on
No
Please
.. No
Come on
Ok


I think that will work with new Girls

But you got to plan out your move cuz with a wife u can ask and ask and ask
It wont be taken in a bad way

Cuz new girls u got at most two chances of asking when you've got her to her peak happyness


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    #16095523 - 04/16/12 12:39 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Yes they do , but as you get older they automatically expect you to do so .


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    #16106117 - 04/18/12 12:42 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

I made the first move once, got layed, and regretted it and felt like a slut afterwards(which bares no judgement towards girls that do do that type of thing, its just the way it made me feel for very personal reasons).

I wont be making the first move again.  I highly approve of guys who make the first move because of this (not that I have met any, which is why I dont do it, if no one makes the first move on me, then I can hardly be very attractive, and if this is the case, then it is not likely that if I make any moves they will be reciprocated...I am also a very sensitive soul and find it difficult to cope with rejection, be nice by the way, I am being honest), as I have gotten older, I even give kudos to guys I dont find attractive or even like if they make the first move (which happens often on dating forums), because I appreciate the courage that it must take and dont feel you (guys in general) recieve enough recognition for it.



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Re: Do girls ever make the first move? [Re: somaholiday]
    #16108622 - 04/18/12 10:48 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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I made the first move once, got layed, and regretted it and felt like a slut afterwards(which bares no judgement towards girls that do do that type of thing, its just the way it made me feel for very personal reasons).

I wont be making the first move again.  I highly approve of guys who make the first move because of this (not that I have met any, which is why I dont do it, if no one makes the first move on me, then I can hardly be very attractive, and if this is the case, then it is not likely that if I make any moves they will be reciprocated...I am also a very sensitive soul and find it difficult to cope with rejection, be nice by the way, I am being honest), as I have gotten older, I even give kudos to guys I dont find attractive or even like if they make the first move (which happens often on dating forums), because I appreciate the courage that it must take and dont feel you (guys in general) recieve enough recognition for it.





This post makes almost zero sense.  I have no idea what you're trying to say after the first sentence.


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    #16108920 - 04/18/12 11:40 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

You made the first move, it worked, and now you won't do it again? Yea, wtf?
If you like someone let them know, whats the problem?


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Re: Do girls ever make the first move? [Re: pwnasaurus]
    #16109853 - 04/19/12 03:06 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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This post makes almost zero sense.  I have no idea what you're trying to say after the first sentence.




That says more about you...


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Re: Do girls ever make the first move? [Re: somaholiday]
    #16109937 - 04/19/12 03:48 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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You made the first move, it worked, and now you won't do it again? Yea, wtf?
If you like someone let them know, whats the problem?



selective reading much?

here are the important parts you missed in your calculation:

"...and felt like a slut...[regret] for very personal reasons."

"...I am also a very sensitive soul and find it difficult to cope with rejection, be nice by the way, I am being honest"

Perhaps I am wrong to feel like that, sex can be great fun, that particular time it was neither here nor there, it was just a bang, and I couldnt wait to get out of there.  I guess I am just not a one night stand girl, but I tried it before making my judgement at least, give me some credit for that...

"You made the first move, it worked, and now you won't do it again? Yea, wtf?" Does this mean that sex is the greatest good?...consider that idea when taken to its extreme...

Perhaps within that consideration there can be found some insight as to why some girls dont like to make the first move.


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Re: Do girls ever make the first move? [Re: somaholiday]
    #16109987 - 04/19/12 04:35 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

I try to focus on the important things.
You felt like a slut, for reasons we can't begin to comprehend because you won't share them.
Rejection sucks, for everyone. I'm nice, at least I have good intentions and am honest as well.

'Just a bang' usually isn't so much fun. That still doesn't make you a slut.

Sex isn't that extreme.  It bugs me that people hold back the way they feel for... what?
Just because you felt slutty once doesn't mean you shouldn't make the move ever again.


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Re: Do girls ever make the first move? [Re: somaholiday]
    #16113648 - 04/19/12 11:19 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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This post makes almost zero sense.  I have no idea what you're trying to say after the first sentence.




That says more about you...



:rolleyes:

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I made the first move once, got layed, and regretted it and felt like a slut afterwards(which bares no judgement towards girls that do do that type of thing, its just the way it made me feel for very personal reasons).

I wont be making the first move again.  I highly approve of guys who make the first move because of this




This?  Unclear what you're referring to

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(not that I have met any, which is why I dont do it, if no one makes the first move on me, then I can hardly be very attractive, and if this is the case, then it is not likely that if I make any moves they will be reciprocated...I am also a very sensitive soul and find it difficult to cope with rejection, be nice by the way, I am being honest), as I have gotten older, I even give kudos to guys I dont find attractive or even like if they make the first move (which happens often on dating forums), because I appreciate the courage that it must take and dont feel you (guys in general) recieve enough recognition for it.




This entire block is one run on sentence, and you don't see how that could be hard to understand, never mind incredibly grammatically incorrect?


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Re: Do girls ever make the first move? [Re: somaholiday]
    #16115150 - 04/20/12 08:16 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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I made the first move once, got layed, and regretted it and felt like a slut afterwards(which bares no judgement towards girls that do do that type of thing, its just the way it made me feel for very personal reasons).

I wont be making the first move again.  I highly approve of guys who make the first move because of this (not that I have met any, which is why I dont do it, if no one makes the first move on me, then I can hardly be very attractive, and if this is the case, then it is not likely that if I make any moves they will be reciprocated...I am also a very sensitive soul and find it difficult to cope with rejection, be nice by the way, I am being honest), as I have gotten older, I even give kudos to guys I dont find attractive or even like if they make the first move (which happens often on dating forums), because I appreciate the courage that it must take and dont feel you (guys in general) recieve enough recognition for it.






Most girls are very sensitive and don't take rejection well.

I would go as far as saying many girls are pussies. Our culture gives them an excuse to hide behind their passive role. They do, however, have a more volatile sense of self-esteem that comes along so I guess it's somewhat "balanced".

This post for example :

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When it comes to girls, we DO make first moves, but they're way more subtle than the moves we expect to have made ON us.

Our first move looks more like "making ourselves available".  We hang around near you, smile at you, laugh at your jokes, talk indirectly about things we'd love to see and do in our lives, and from there, it's up to you guys to pick up on it and take the lead if you like us too.  We will rarely ask directly.

We also treat you badly to see if you'll let us do it - and we lose respect and sexual attraction if you let us get away with it.  Look up the concept of a "shit test" for more of what I mean.

PS: If you don't have the balls to risk rejection, you'll get "chosen" by a woman who senses your weakness and will take advantage of you for it.  And don't think I mean sexually, either.  Sure, you'll get that initially to hook you in, but once that happens (and guys who don't get it often get hooked easily) she'll cut out the sex, drain you emotionally, financially, and probably then cheat on you in the end.  Find your balls, man.




Is bullshit.
If "smiling" is a first move then how come smiling, clingy, overly positive guys aren't considered to be "making a move"? How come would it be normal for a girl to do a "shit test" and try and see if the guy has balls when she doesn't have any herself?

Don't delude yourself, girls don't make the first move, period. Their role is different. To men, I would say that the first step towards approaching a girl would be to accept that she has the passive role and the right to play mindgames.


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Re: Do girls ever make the first move? [Re: Kukaracha]
    #16115619 - 04/20/12 11:38 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

dya know what, I forgot, I've made a first move twice.  I gave this guy who had been flirting with me in the library a few weeks my number, but he never phoned.  He had invited me to a house party he was having (which I couldnt go to), and kept sitting next to me (when there were plenty of other seats), so I was obviously on the radar, and we had spoken about how it would be nice to hang out.  I gave him my phone number and email and he never called.  It was funny when I gave it to him as well, I could just make out a flash across his face that said "oh no, she wants to get married and have my babies" and I kind of knew he wasnt going to call me after that.  I think it is because I gave it to him so nervously, when perhaps I should have just given it to him with a bit more cool.  My nervousness was not because of how much I fancied him, but rather that I was doing something I had never done before (given a guy my number)(the first one we had already exchanged numbers, but I made the first move as in booty called him).  Mad that I just forgot about it when giving my first example, thats like a proper making a move move isnt it?...It was horrible when I met him a few months later, because I had been eating all the pies and put on 14lb's and not looking my best, kind of didnt even speak to him after that.

I kind of see where you are coming from Kuk, and even though you see it as a matter of cultural norms that in the last part of your post, you kind of seem to accept, if not a little begrudgingly so (understandable), in myself, I do see it (the rejection part) as a character flaw that I was gradually trying to over come, infact, that is what inspired me to give that guy my number that time, but I guess I have kind of given up.

And what you said about girls being pussies for not doing it, is exactly why I commend guys, and dont think you get enough recognition for doing all the work.  Not just work in terms of making moves, but also, the fact that guys get such a poor wrap for being emotionally dumb, when actually, the fact that (some of) you are able to work through the rejection to give it another go, is a sign of great resilience and emotional inteligence that girls do not compare to.  The fact that we (some of us) dont do it because we find it difficult to handle the rejection (I know, I have only been speaking for myself so far), is a sure sign of our own emotional inabilities. 

But, also, even though there appears to be a fixed pattern, I think this only half true, I think social interaction is highly reciprocal, and while there are moves that are "moves", there are also many many occasions where it isnt black and white and things just, happen.


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Re: Do girls ever make the first move? [Re: somaholiday]
    #16116112 - 04/20/12 02:28 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

True, communication mostly happens on implicit levels.
Now while I do really believe that girl are "pussies", they have the "burden of image". Many times have I seen men head on a date with an old shirt and a dirty pair of jeans when the girl probably spent half an hour just on makeup.

I don't not which side has an easier life, but it's much better to just aknowledge and accept your role. Only then can you maybe go beyond it.


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Re: Do girls ever make the first move? [Re: somaholiday]
    #16116309 - 04/20/12 03:29 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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This post makes almost zero sense.  I have no idea what you're trying to say after the first sentence.




That says more about you...





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    #16116572 - 04/20/12 04:51 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

:willynilly: 

Seeing as it is two then; (re: aproving guys making the first move) The second statement is qualified by the first ...perhaps the brackets (which had contextual information to create better understanding of my personal circumstance) caused some confusion.

Here you go.

"I wont be making the first move again.  I highly approve of guys who make the first move because of this [the fact that I dont make the move, because if guys didnt, then I would have no hope of meeting one, because "I wont be making..."], as I have gotten older, I even give kudos to guys I dont find attractive or even like if they make the first move (which happens often on dating forums), because I appreciate the courage that it must take and dont feel you (guys in general) recieve enough recognition for it."

(the removed bracket part)
"(not that I have met any [guys who make the first move which was mentioned immediately prior to this bracketed sentence], which is why I dont do it, if no one makes the first move on me, then I can hardly be very attractive, and if this is the case, then it is not likely that if I make any moves they will be reciprocated...I am also a very sensitive soul and find it difficult to cope with rejection, be nice by the way, I am being honest)"


Personally I think you are both being awkward and bitchy, its hardly text speak is it! :shrug:


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    #16116604 - 04/20/12 05:01 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Personally I think you are both being awkward and bitchy, its hardly text speak is it! :shrug:




What?

Commas, sentence formation?


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    #16116637 - 04/20/12 05:08 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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blabber
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Personally I think you are both being awkward and bitchy, its hardly text speak is it! :shrug:




What?

Commas, sentence formation?




I'm out of this one now.  I post a lot on this forum anon because I have confidence problems, and the one time I openly offer a womens perspective to a genuine and potentially interesting discussion that could provide opportunity for us to explore, share and develop I am taken down for trivialities.

Have fun.


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Re: My butt hurts. [Re: somaholiday]
    #16118023 - 04/20/12 11:31 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

lol why are you concerned about someone making a comment about internet grammar?

egos are a massive problem in almost all cultures, everyone is concerned about  being "not really interested in you,  you make teh first move,".
like,  i can go out, make constant eye contact with girls, glances every few minutes, yet neither of us  will make the first physical move, even though its hugely obvious we find each other attractive, theres always this "you go first!". now yes, i have some massive subconcious fear of rejection and find it difficult to "move in" even in obvious situations.

ive had girls ask me out indirectly (so yeh, i greatly agree with the poster above) one ask what im doing tonight, i reply nothing, what about you? oh same, just sitting in tonight on my own  with a movie and pizza. meanwhile, i pussy out and fail to add one more sentence to seal the deal.
few more cases like that,same sort of tone and style,  pussied out.
out clubbing, most girls will do is dance, eye contact, slowly move towards me. ive had a girl push her friend into me while dancing,i moved away and she kinda stared at me like wtf man, im nearly throwing myself at you.
yeh, thats the biggest initiate a stranger has made on me
biggest move, sisters friend in my bed, fail to make the final move.

yeah, im a right pussy when it comes to initiating with girls.
anyways, i went a bit towards me there, my point is, its almost ALWAYS guys that have gotta make that FINAL move to seal the deal. you get alot of girls  that like to play games, theres definetely that fear that she rejects when YOU make the real move, that "i really do wanna fuck you" finalizer.
we all just need to drop our egos and get over the fear of rejection, its pathetic, and thats coming from someone  with a ridicolous ego :frown:


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Re: My butt hurts. [Re: daz01]
    #16118332 - 04/21/12 12:35 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Last summer I was walking down the street and a good lookin' girl bout my age approached me from behind and grabbed my hand and held it and walked with me for about 20-30 seconds.

Does that count?  Oh the possibilities..

I agree though women will make more subtle moves of their own, but it seems to be up to the dudes to make any substantial move.


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Re: My butt hurts. [Re: daz01]
    #16118870 - 04/21/12 03:31 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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lol why are you concerned about someone making a comment about internet grammar?




You are right daz, thanks for pointing this out, its silly of me to be bothered enough to react in the first place xx



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Re: My butt hurts. [Re: somaholiday]
    #16118914 - 04/21/12 03:52 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Quote:

somaholiday said:
Quote:

Simms said:
Quote:

somaholiday said:
blabber
(point proven)

Personally I think you are both being awkward and bitchy, its hardly text speak is it! :shrug:




What?

Commas, sentence formation?




I'm out of this one now.  I post a lot on this forum anon because I have confidence problems, and the one time I openly offer a womens perspective to a genuine and potentially interesting discussion that could provide opportunity for us to explore, share and develop I am taken down for trivialities.

Have fun.



Dude, it's not a triviality.  I literally cannot make left from right out of your posts.  You need to use a little bit of punctuation otherwise you might as well not write anything.


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Re: My butt hurts. [Re: pwnasaurus]
    #16119194 - 04/21/12 07:38 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

I'm pretty retarded when it comes to asking girls out. I've never been good at it. But I now have a wonderful fiance who treats me wonderful and fucks me better than I thought I'd ever have simply because she texted me one day and was like "what are you doing?" "Nothing" "Come pick me up" "okay"

She basically moved in that night. We fucked like animals and it has blossomed into something special.

She definitely made the first move. I was diggin' on her secretly but didn't really know she was free. She obviously wanted to come over to my place though. :wink:


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Re: My butt hurts. [Re: Joolz]
    #16119307 - 04/21/12 09:42 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

In retrospect looking at these posts, I guess it doesn't matter who makes a move. What's meant to be is just meant to be.


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Re: My butt hurts. [Re: 46 and 2]
    #16121537 - 04/21/12 09:46 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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In retrospect looking at these posts, I guess it doesn't matter who makes a move. What's meant to be is just meant to be.




Exactly.


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