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mikeisapro said:
Looks like gonz grew up

"The angry and reverent spirit peculiar to youth appears to allow itself no peace, until it has suitably falsified men and things, to be able to vent its passion upon them: youth in itself even, is something falsifying and deceptive.  Later on, when the young soul, tortured by continual disillusions, finally turns suspiciously against itself - still ardent and savage even in its suspicion and remorse of conscience: how it upbraids itself, how impatiently it tears itself, how it revenges itself for its long self-blinding, as though it had been a voluntary blindness!  In this transition one punishes oneself by distrust of one's sentiments; one tortures one's enthusiasm with doubt, one feels even the good conscience to be a danger, as if it were the self-concealment and lassitude of a more refined uprightness; and above all, one espouses upon principle the cause AGAINST "youth."  - A decade later, and one comprehends that all this was also still - youth!  " -Nietzsche

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dr_gonz said:
Yes, after seeing his RIDICULOUS video in the original thread (which was locked), I felt compelled to come in to this thread and call out this teenage OP and try to snap him out of the illusion of  "truth seeking" so he can save himself.

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zzripz said:
Notice the disaster happened on 3/11, and remember 9/11----this 11 seems to keep croping up in these kinds of disasters.

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just wait for my birthday to roll around 11/11/11

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The freemasons must be in on this shit, because this is also the traditional start of the carnival season here. Coincidence?

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mikeisapro said:
Well here's how I see it, it's something we don't have control over.

We are down here, and "they" are up there. We will never be up there. Fine you can learn about it, but all I know is I used to feel indignant about the whole thing, and it doesn't affect the reality of things, all it does it affect myself. I had no peace of mind with that feeling of indignation. So yes, I think maturity is acceptance. Accepting the reality of life, that power is not equally distributed among everybody is maturity. That doesn't necessarily mean weakness, resignation, giving up, submission, complacency. Why be upset about the nature of things? Isn't that kind of....un-natural?

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zzripz said:
IF you know war is a racket, are you gonna join up? Are you gonna let your children join up?

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mikeisapro said:
Well here's how I see it, it's something we don't have control over.

We are down here, and "they" are up there. We will never be up there. Fine you can learn about it, but all I know is I used to feel indignant about the whole thing, and it doesn't affect the reality of things, all it does it affect myself. I had no peace of mind with that feeling of indignation. So yes, I think maturity is acceptance. Accepting the reality of life, that power is not equally distributed among everybody is maturity. That doesn't necessarily mean weakness, resignation, giving up, submission, complacency. Why be upset about the nature of things? Isn't that kind of....un-natural?

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Olympus Mons said:
no dude, being completely numb to the nature of reality is ok.

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Olympus Mons said:
you dont grow out of conspiracies, what happens is they compound and it gets to the point that it's overwhelming and then you break. Suddenly none of it matters, and all you wanna do is essentially be oblivious to what isnt directly related to you.

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Or you realize that by looking for conspiracies everywhere with a fearful, paranoid mental state your mind has started to create them on its own (what the thinker thinks, the prover proves) and you (hopefully) start to accept that sometimes there just isn't a hidden connection or dark controlling cabal behind things everywhere you look.  Unfortunately, any dissenters with information that conflicts with these constructed theories only serve to further confirm the typical conspiracy theorist's beliefs as they can be rationalized away as mere shills/disinformation agents spreading propaganda.  That way lies paranoid schizophrenia. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_fives#Law_of_Fives

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Why are you acting like you have proof?  Of course everyone can wonder, ask questions, discuss, etc.  But when you assume something insane without any evidence... well it's hard to not perceive you yourself as insane.  Sure, an occultist elite very well could have triggered a large scale natural disaster to fuck with the minds of the population.  But, with that same reasoning, anything else is just as plausible. Like an earthquake, which occur all the time and happen to be backed supported by data. Why are you so convinced?

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For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure--one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.

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We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the work is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries.

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deCypher said:
(what the thinker thinks, the prover proves)

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Olympus Mons said:
you dont grow out of conspiracies, what happens is they compound and it gets to the point that it's overwhelming and then you break. Suddenly none of it matters, and all you wanna do is essentially be oblivious to what isnt directly related to you.

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Or you realize that by looking for conspiracies everywhere with a fearful, paranoid mental state your mind has started to create them on its own (what the thinker thinks, the prover proves) and you (hopefully) start to accept that sometimes there just isn't a hidden connection or dark controlling cabal behind things everywhere you look.  Unfortunately, any dissenters with information that conflicts with these constructed theories only serve to further confirm the typical conspiracy theorist's beliefs as they can be rationalized away as mere shills/disinformation agents spreading propaganda.  That way lies paranoid schizophrenia. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_fives#Law_of_Fives

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