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 Room4Shroom
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 Saving Private Ryan 
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I just watched that movie for the first time. What I don't understand is when the US soldiers landed on the beach, and they're getting wtfbbqpnw3d by the Nazies that they didn't just fire like 500 rockets at them with rocket launchers?
What's with trying to run up the damn beach with rifles?
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rockets dont make you a hero
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i'm pretty sure they didn't expect anybody to be waiting there
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Quote:
Prisoner#1 said:
rockets dont make you an hero
but running into gunfire does 
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Quote:
Prisoner#1 said:
rockets dont make you a hero
yeah they do!
"Let em burn..."
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Can we get a serious answer? It was the invasion of normandy, france ~ 1944. But I dont really know much more
About 6,900 vessels were to be involved in the invasion, under the command of Admiral Sir Bertram Ramsay (who had been directly involved in the North African and Italian landings), including 4,100 landing craft. A total of 12,000 aircraft under Air Marshal Sir Trafford Leigh-Mallory were to support the landings, including 1,000 transports to fly in the parachute troops; 10,000 tons of bombs would be dropped against the German defences, and 14,000 attack sorties would be flown.
Idk why they had the resources it seems.
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Re: Saving Private Ryan [Re: Enthrall] 2
#14095688 - 03/10/11 01:22 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Omaha Beach was the perfect defensive situation for the Germans. It was
a narrow enclosed battlefield leaving no possible way to flank it because the
cliffs surrounding the beach were virtually perpendicular to the ground.
It was an open killing field, there being no cover for the Allies until they
reached the sea wall. The Germans had thoroughly prepared for the attack
knowing that the Allies would probably eventually invade Europe (although
they didn't know when). Every inch of the beach was covered by guns, mines
and explosives. General Rommel (The German General in charge of defending
the beaches of Normandy against the D-Day invasion), had positioned twelve
strong points along the beach and throughout the seawall, each holding 88s
cannons, 75s cannons, and mortars for the Allies to deal with. The Germans
had also set up dozens of machine gun pillboxes, supported by a complicated
trench system which wove through the steep and complicated sea wall
passageways. There were also countless guns positioned at angles to have
plunging fire, grazing fire, and crossing fire from all types of weapons,
which made it even more difficult for the soldiers to make their way to the
base of the sea wall, and then up the wall. General Rommel protected the
larger weapons and strong points from Allied bombardment by building sturdy
concrete walls around them. An example of common German soldiers duties
during Omaha Beach can be seen in Franz Gockel's ( a German soldier in the
726th regiment) observation, "Dark shadows could be detected on the horizon,
and we first believed them to be German patrol craft, but soon the shadows
grew and became so numerous that all hope was dispelled. The detectable wake
from large and small ships increased in number. More bombers approached the
coastline, and at Port-en-Bessin, a few kilometers from us, the first bombs
fell. More bombers approached and I stood behind my heavy machine gun with
its sights trained on the sea. Once again I inspected the ammunition belt. I
attempted to concentrate on my weapon to take my mind away from the impending
events. In the recesses of my gun position stood ignition switches for two
flame-throwers which were aimed at the beach and the tank trench." The
overwhelming strength with which Omaha Beach was defended meant that the
Allies would need perfect execution in order to minimize loss of life
(Ambrose, 320-321).
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Re: Saving Private Ryan [Re: Pony]
#14095699 - 03/10/11 01:24 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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by the way Omaha beach is 1 of the 5 Normandy beaches, the one you always see on t.v.
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Quote:
Room4Shroom said:
I just watched that movie for the first time. What I don't understand is when the US soldiers landed on the beach, and they're getting wtfbbqpnw3d by the Nazies that they didn't just fire like 500 rockets at them with rocket launchers?
What's with trying to run up the damn beach with rifles?
first off, soldiers dont just carry around rocket launchers like in halo, especially in wwii. second, the beach was bombed and shelled prior to the landing, i'm pretty sure. third, the allies had no idea how well dug in the germans were. fourth, it was pretty shitty weather that day which completely screwed up the landing schedule and organization and made for one hell of a shitstorm
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It was a surprise invasion so the navy couldnt bombard the bunker emplacements. Rockets at that time were highly unreliable, and most beach landings were way off course so it was pretty much a clusterfuck all up and down those Normandy beaches.
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Enthrall
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Quote:
LloydChristmas said:
It was a surprise invasion so the navy couldnt bombard the bunker emplacements. Rockets at that time were highly unreliable, and most beach landings were way off course so it was pretty much a clusterfuck all up and down those Normandy beaches.
Ya  think about it they used bolt action rifles and weapons pretty mediocre compared to now a days too.
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Re: Saving Private Ryan [Re: Enthrall]
#14095842 - 03/10/11 01:55 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah... Except unfortunately the Germans had MG42's which can pretty much still go toe to toe with any modern machine gun 
The US still more or less uses the same browning 50 cal MG that they have since around the 1910's
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Re: Saving Private Ryan [Re: twighead]
#14096279 - 03/10/11 05:01 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dont watch saving private ryan when you are tripping!!!
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LloydChristmas
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ooh that sounds awful
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They need to make a porno called 'shaving ryans private'
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Quote:
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ooh that sounds awful
yes... yes it was!
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I watched the first scene but my friends watched all of it... They put the movie in because the trip was extremely long and intense... and watching a movie like that will sober you right up!
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Because you can blow the fucking shit out of a place with every weapon known to man and the only thing left alive will be that fucking infantryman with his rife, hunkered down in a hole.
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They need to make a porno called 'shaving ryans private'
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That defiantly sounds like a gay porno.
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I think the big guns on the warships
that were supposed to "soften up" the beachheads
overshot the mark due to the bad weather.
Thus leaving the beaches pretty much how the Germans wanted them
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The Germans only half expected an invasion there - if it were up to Rommel and his plan the Germans would've had tens of thousands more men, guns, and mines defending the shores but dumbass hitler over-rode his advice expecting an invasion from elsewhere and look where it got them 
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Quote:
NewWavePeace said:
They need to make a porno called 'shaving ryans private'
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That title has been taken
Shaving Ryan's Privates
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0476592/
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A documentary looking at porn films that parody classic Hollywood movies.
Damn so has "Saving Ryan's Privates" and neither of them are porns. 
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Re: Saving Private Ryan [Re: twighead]
#14097529 - 03/10/11 02:18 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
twighead said:
The Germans only half expected an invasion there - if it were up to Rommel and his plan the Germans would've had tens of thousands more men, guns, and mines defending the shores but dumbass hitler over-rode his advice expecting an invasion from elsewhere and look where it got them
Rommel, the commander for that section during that time, wasn't even present during the Invasion of Normandy as he was on vacation for his wife's birthday (Or maybe their anniversary).
Rommel, Hitler, and most of the rest of the German High Command assumed that the Pas de Calis (Paaah deh Caley) would be the site of invasion because it was the narrowest point across the English Channel.
Normandy was chosen specifically because it was so lightly defended. Normandy was lightly defended because it takes a lot of guys to protect a huge periphery like the Eastern and Western fronts of WWII so there was a relative lack of manpower.
Normandy, like the rest of the French coast along the English Sea was bombarded for several days prior to the invasion in order to create confusion as to where the attack would land. the Pas de Calis was in fact the most heavily bombed target which helped to give substance to the ruse that the Allies would be attacking there.
War is interesting and fun but it also sucks cock. Imagine living your entire life in order to be put into a rectangular box in the ocean so that you could run for 1-3 meters before being shot to death by bullets that rip your body apart. This happened to hundreds if not thousands of people. Lots of others made it another 2-5 meters before being mowed down.
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Re: Saving Private Ryan [Re: twighead]
#14097798 - 03/10/11 03:09 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
twighead said:
The Germans only half expected an invasion there - if it were up to Rommel and his plan the Germans would've had tens of thousands more men, guns, and mines defending the shores but dumbass hitler over-rode his advice expecting an invasion from elsewhere and look where it got them
very true, one of hitlers many mistakes, along with not endorsing the mp44 right up front.
but anyway, it isn't like this was hitlers last battle, he put a lot of stress on the u.s. after that. market garden was another battle no fun for the u.s.
the u.s. casualties in world war 2 though was nothing compared to the russian casualties. the germans fucking disintegrated the russians.
it's said in historical terms, that hitler didn't kill as many jews as stalin did starving russians, or as japan did china men. but the numbers inflicted upon russians well made up for that. the germans must have killed 10 times as many russians as he did jews, and that's a lot of russians.
the russians made up for it though when they took berlin, by raping like 750,000 innocent german women
I guess no german was safe really from horrible experience during world war 2, the ones that weren't taken to concentration camps and slaughtered for being jews, were raped by the russians who were supposed to help them. sucks for them. i hear germany is now a very nice country
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Re: Saving Private Ryan [Re: Humility]
#14097821 - 03/10/11 03:14 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Humility said:
Quote:
twighead said:
The Germans only half expected an invasion there - if it were up to Rommel and his plan the Germans would've had tens of thousands more men, guns, and mines defending the shores but dumbass hitler over-rode his advice expecting an invasion from elsewhere and look where it got them
Rommel, the commander for that section during that time, wasn't even present during the Invasion of Normandy as he was on vacation for his wife's birthday (Or maybe their anniversary).
Rommel, Hitler, and most of the rest of the German High Command assumed that the Pas de Calis (Paaah deh Caley) would be the site of invasion because it was the narrowest point across the English Channel.
Normandy was chosen specifically because it was so lightly defended. Normandy was lightly defended because it takes a lot of guys to protect a huge periphery like the Eastern and Western fronts of WWII so there was a relative lack of manpower.
Normandy, like the rest of the French coast along the English Sea was bombarded for several days prior to the invasion in order to create confusion as to where the attack would land. the Pas de Calis was in fact the most heavily bombed target which helped to give substance to the ruse that the Allies would be attacking there.
War is interesting and fun but it also sucks cock. Imagine living your entire life in order to be put into a rectangular box in the ocean so that you could run for 1-3 meters before being shot to death by bullets that rip your body apart. This happened to hundreds if not thousands of people. Lots of others made it another 2-5 meters before being mowed down.
they also sent a lot of fake signals letting the germans intercept saying they would be coming in the pai de calai or however you say, and the germans took the bait. unfortunately i hear later, the artillery they had pointing out to sea there, was later turned around towards inland when the americans tried to take the pai de calai from the west on land, those cannons pointed back towards inland did some major damage i believe.
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