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 I'm a little worried about my friends mental state 
#13832194 - 01/22/11 05:37 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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When i first met my friend, lets call him Fred, he was a nice kid who was very eccentric, outgoing person. A little bit goofy but still chill. Fred was always really unique in his personality as he was just about down to anything fun or exciting.
Over the last year and a half though he has been getting more extreme. He has become kind of odd in his actions. He will do random things or make random hand movements or gestures and he gets distracted by almost everything. If your walking with him he will stop and talk to anyone he sees randomly and even if their weirded out its like he doesn't notice. Whenever he drinks or does molly(his drugs of choice) he gets completely out of hand. Molly makes gives him the same effects as everyone else but to a huge extreme. He can't control himself and he will try to get everyone to have an orgy or have sex with him. He talks about fucking animals all the time and he can never stop moving around.
He also stopped smoking weed a while ago because he didnt like how it mellowed him out and made him quiet, But i actually like him more like that. He just cant chill out.
Does my friend have a mental disorder, could it be from his drug use?
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 Re: I'm a little worried about my friends mental state [Re: Everything]
#13832607 - 01/22/11 07:07 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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YEs, as a friend it's normal to care about his mental state, you cannot save anyone though, if he stops his use thats his choice, does he have anything else that he likes to do instead of being high? any special skills? music? or what?
I do hope your friend finds something to focus on, he might have addhd, or simply is just not interested in anything. drugs are done mostly because it's an easy way to feel like you're doing something of importance or simply because they are easy, things like hobbies and human relations take time and hard work.
embrace whatever you have in your life thats positive, take a break from drugs and find something else.
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Re: I'm a little worried about my friends mental state [Re: TheShroomNinja]
#13832934 - 01/22/11 08:15 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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He definitely enjoys drawing and i think he has a bit of an interest in acting. He could definitely be a very creative person. His hobby I would say is socializing. He's well known but people just think hes kind of crazy at the same time. Thanks for your response, I know i can't really do much about it but i kind of wish he would revert back to how he initially was when i met him.
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Re: I'm a little worried about my friends mental state [Re: Everything]
#13834287 - 01/23/11 12:12 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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society seems to be your friends enemy. i'd congratulate him, but that is just my opinion.
i'd be willign to bet he is fine and most everyone around him is afraid of what they hide and what he doesn't.
or he could just be bat-shit crazy but... i don't think you've mentioned anything that crazy. 
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Re: I'm a little worried about my friends mental state [Re: akira_akuma]
#13834403 - 01/23/11 12:40 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah i enjoy hanging out with him still because he is funny and entertaining and you can have some laughs with him. I just wish he would know when to stop because other people really get annoyed by him. He's a true character but i don't want to seem him fuck him self up somehow.
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Re: I'm a little worried about my friends mental state [Re: akira_akuma]
#13834435 - 01/23/11 12:47 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think your friend does have some issues, but he is uncooperative and I'm afraid he is one that will have to be run over by Mack Trucks, maybe several times, before he sees the wisdom of controlling his behaviors.
Right now he is yesting the water to see how much people will put up with. He should not be taking X trash, but his kind usually delight in the drug that makes them worse until they can't anymore.
I'm sorry that's not such good news, but after awhile he may come back. He seems to be determined right now to see it to the bitter end, so try not to be there when it happens, or leave when you see it starting.
Another "molly" mess.....but people still worship shulgin and his downward, half-quality drug...
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Re: I'm a little worried about my friends mental state [Re: curenado]
#13834826 - 01/23/11 01:50 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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molly didn't do that to him.
get it straight.
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Re: I'm a little worried about my friends mental state [Re: akira_akuma]
#13835197 - 01/23/11 03:09 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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maybe not molly but perhaps the street forms of ecstasy did some sort of damage
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Re: I'm a little worried about my friends mental state [Re: akira_akuma]
#13835220 - 01/23/11 03:15 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
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molly didn't do that to him.
get it straight.
Just because you want to take it doesn't mean it doesn't burn people - get it straight!
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Re: I'm a little worried about my friends mental state [Re: curenado]
#13835240 - 01/23/11 03:22 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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never said that...
and the dude couldn't have been effect in that way from molly... he'd have to be literally have something effecting his brain, if that is what you think it is... unless it is his personality than it must be that his brain is being literally damaged.
not an effect of mdma... only an effect of a disease, or stupidity. (no offence, but if he is an idiot, he is just an idiot and not just being a "character")
i think it's just his character but i can't possible really know... only OP can know.
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Re: I'm a little worried about my friends mental state [Re: TheShroomNinja]
#13835251 - 01/23/11 03:25 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
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maybe not molly but perhaps the street forms of ecstasy did some sort of damage
and the more likely scenario is something he is probably not aware of... if it was because of straight mdma abuse... he wouldn't be mr fun, and he wouldn't be the way he is... he's be CLEARLY different.
but only you, ninja, can know... i don't know.
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Re: I'm a little worried about my friends mental state [Re: akira_akuma]
#13835315 - 01/23/11 03:55 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ninja thinks he's just a goofy kid
but really curenado, i'm very curious to hear your in-depth thoughts on MDMA? is it the chemical itself you're not so fond of or simply how some abuse it?
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Re: I'm a little worried about my friends mental state [Re: owls]
#13836196 - 01/23/11 12:37 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have not seen enough damaged goods, what the damages are and if they can be repaired yet to say about the drug itself.
All medicine is watching that and will for years to come. Repairable damages don't really concern so much, but if there are potentially permanent ramifications then people ought to know. But that is a sad learning that comes from studying....sad situations that didn't get prevented.
I do have a problem with people abusing it, because we do know that most of the mess cases were using it as frequently as they could. There does seem to be some real risks with abusing it, at least psychologically. The same would be true of acid and mushrooms if people could abuse them like that, but they can't. So now we have a neuro whose effects may not be so visible so quickly and one which we do not really know damage thresholds of.
Plus, you take a limited dose of acid - people take some X, then they take some more...they mix it with alcohol and other drugs - no one has any rules or guidelines for X besides "Take some! I'll do it with you!"
In this guy's case, he is using it to not only escape maturity but also as a fuel for his mania and antics. It's a nuisance to his friends, but he's played around with regular people and got away with it - then he meets the (a) bogeyman....and he is making himself a target to attract some trouble......
When X is making someone worse and Akira says "It ain't the dope. It can't be because I like that dope!" Well.....
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Re: I'm a little worried about my friends mental state [Re: curenado]
#13838376 - 01/23/11 08:22 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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X is making him worse?
he is using a drug that calms you into feeling flight of fancy of tomorrow being settled in peace.
and instead having the effects that his "so called friends" are influencing to have by not being open and truthful.
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Re: I'm a little worried about my friends mental state [Re: akira_akuma]
#13839520 - 01/24/11 12:02 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well just to clarify He has only been taking molly. And I know most of the places he has got it from and its usually pretty clean. He was definitely 'goofy' before he ever tried MDMA but it always seems to bring him to a whole new level. Everyone who is friends with him has talked to him about his behavior hes been kicked out of his friends houses or not aloud in because he is reckless and belligerent especially while drinking.
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Re: I'm a little worried about my friends mental state [Re: akira_akuma] 1
#13839679 - 01/24/11 12:32 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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X is making him worse?
he is using a drug that calms you into feeling flight of fancy of tomorrow being settled in peace.
and instead having the effects that his "so called friends" are influencing to have by not being open and truthful.
Hey I noticed "Master of the White Lodge" on yer title there - are you a MD? How many have you killed? Are you one of these people that thinks a little geometry, tarot cards and blind sex make you "self initiated"?
I only ask because surely if you are, you can not have proceeded very far into your lodge.
Like being a world's foremost authority and preacher in other people's lives, arrests and deaths with the education, training and experience of a 15 year old black lodge street hustler.
But I think I am giving you too much credit because the guy's friend said Molly makes him aggressive (if only psychologically or spiritually) and he makes uncomfortable and innapropriate moves on and with his own friends when he is on it.
But again, you are not listening to the poster at all, because nothing seems to matter to you but being a molly preacher - even if it hurts or harms. The thread was about an individual, his friend and their group of friends watching a guy fall into a hole - because that is exactly what is happening and only this guy's friend knows how tough he feels and how much he thinks he can take. Those guys are usually always wrong, which is why parole officers and half way houses still have jobs.
You def got the falsely confident, all "me!" megalomanic lust of a lodger I'll give ya that!
But you know Akira - some lodger might actually get on here and say flat out "You are envious of the guy's friend, how he tries to have scare power over people and play at freaking them out - he sounds like the brother you have been looking for......a real lodger might say that I mean.....
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Re: I'm a little worried about my friends mental state [Re: curenado]
#13839728 - 01/24/11 12:41 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Molly is an interesting thing, but just like alcohol, it sometimes doesnt mix well with certain people.
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Re: I'm a little worried about my friends mental state [Re: curenado]
#13840143 - 01/24/11 02:21 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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curenado said:
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X is making him worse?
he is using a drug that calms you into feeling flight of fancy of tomorrow being settled in peace.
and instead having the effects that his "so called friends" are influencing to have by not being open and truthful.
Hey I noticed "Master of the White Lodge" on yer title there - are you a MD? How many have you killed? Are you one of these people that thinks a little geometry, tarot cards and blind sex make you "self initiated"?
I only ask because surely if you are, you can not have proceeded very far into your lodge.
Like being a world's foremost authority and preacher in other people's lives, arrests and deaths with the education, training and experience of a 15 year old black lodge street hustler.
But I think I am giving you too much credit because the guy's friend said Molly makes him aggressive (if only psychologically or spiritually) and he makes uncomfortable and innapropriate moves on and with his own friends when he is on it.
But again, you are not listening to the poster at all, because nothing seems to matter to you but being a molly preacher - even if it hurts or harms. The thread was about an individual, his friend and their group of friends watching a guy fall into a hole - because that is exactly what is happening and only this guy's friend knows how tough he feels and how much he thinks he can take. Those guys are usually always wrong, which is why parole officers and half way houses still have jobs.
You def got the falsely confident, all "me!" megalomanic lust of a lodger I'll give ya that!
But you know Akira - some lodger might actually get on here and say flat out "You are envious of the guy's friend, how he tries to have scare power over people and play at freaking them out - he sounds like the brother you have been looking for......a real lodger might say that I mean.....
i think you are reading too much into this. silence,
and piss ones face off, leader of nothing.
HIS FRIENDS need to stop associating with him or just simply approach the subject with swift, decisive, and pre-emptive action and make him understand.
either... or...
LEAVE WITH YOUR LOUSY INTERPRETATIONS. the facts are the mdma doesn't make people into anything... they are what the are and they should be telling said person to not do mdma or if he doesn't listen then insist when he is fucked that he needs to look in the mirror or no one is going to trust him anymore.
that is my opinion. 
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Re: I'm a little worried about my friends mental state [Re: akira_akuma]
#13841080 - 01/24/11 10:46 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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I might sound like a broken record, but by any chance manic-depression? If it's so and it's been getting extreme you might want to talk to his family because manias can end nasty, mostly in jail or in the emergency room or deep in debt. And the depression that follows is harrowing and often ends tragically.
How much does he sleep? Does he talk fast? Can you keep up with him? Does he have delusions of grandeur? Does he do a lot of stuff? Is he the life of the party? Mad spending sprees? These are some symptoms of mania but only a professional can diagnose him.
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Re: I'm a little worried about my friends mental state [Re: akira_akuma]
#13841131 - 01/24/11 11:04 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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This is not a molly thread. It is a thread about a person/people.
That's where you keep falling down.
Plus, the "fact" is that molly, like mushies DO make a person 10x whatever was going on with them and it is not a "medicine!" that gives consistent medical results - it's just a temporary trick so 16 year olds will do it with people my age  over and over (we had MDA in my day for that and it burnt people here and there too)
But you yourself said molly is for horny peace but then say it doesn't make you into anything?
What you are too green to realize is that it's better than roofies! They stay awake, do anything and seriously think it was their idea and so great   (and no, not me. I try to clean up messes...)
I can see the down side of every drug I try to talk about. That is why I talk about them, because there seems to be a whole TWO generations who think there is no guidelines, risks, rules or warnings and that is why we have so much damage and problems.
Informed. reasonable and non-harmful recreation is one thing. One person at a time if need be.
ALL drugs have benefits and risks. Drugs do not affect all people the same way and many people don't react so well. Until you can get more real about your drug, your position will not be as strong as a more reasonable persons.
It will simply appear that you are so under the spell of the orgy drug you think it can do no wrong and would save the world if everybody would just eat it (and orgy. Ever read "Brave New World"? You should...)
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