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Moment innocent man was left with catastrophic brain damage after being tackled by sheriff's deputy

#13818997 - 01/20/11 09:09 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Fucking hell. Could one of you fill me in on how you become an officer in the U.S.?

Cacooned in tubes and blankets, he has spent the last 20 months lying helpless in a hospital bed.

Christopher Harris, 31, suffered catastrophic brain damage when he was violently tackled by a sheriff's deputy outside a cinema in Seattle.

Astonishingly, the moment he was knocked unconscious when he was slammed head-first against a wall was caught on a surveillance camera.

His family, including his wife, are now taking the case to court alleging King County Deputies Matthew Paul and Joseph Eshom used excessive force.

They are expected to claim at least $25 million in damages.

Mr Harris had been walking through the Belltown district on May 10, 2009, when the incident happened.

The two officers had been called out to a disturbance in a convenience car and had headed down an alley believing the culprits had gone that way.

Instead, they stumbled across Mr Harris who was an innocent passerby.

They asked him to stop but instead he ran away. One of the deputies, Matthew Paul, tackled him outside the Cinerama cinema, and he collapsed on the floor.

He was taken to hospital and diagnosed with irreversible brain damage. He is unable to walk, talk or care for himself and needs 24 hours care.

His lawyer Simeon Osborn said he would have choked on his own blood but for the intervention of a passerby.

'Christopher Harris has irreversible brain damage, and will never recover,' he said.

'He will never walk or talk with his wife and family, or engage in any activities or experiences of daily life.'

He told the Pierce County Superior Court Judge Stephanie Arend that Mr Harris had been attempting to surrender when he was tackled by the deputy, who was clad in black fatigues.

'Mr Harris stopped running, put his hands out in front of him and said, "I don't have anything, I didn't steal anything,"' he said.

King County has claimed that Mr Harris was responsible for his own injuries because he ran away.

Senior Deputy Prosecutor Kristofer Bundy said that his decision to run away was 'extremely foolish and negligent.

'If he had not ran, the officers would have been able to speak with him and quickly determine that he was not the violent felon that they thought he was,' Bundy told the court.

'Therefore, Mr Harris would not have been injured if he had not run.'

The case is due to go before a jury on Tuesday and is expected to last several weeks.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1348678/Innocent-man-catastrophic-brain-damage-sheriffs-deputy-tackle.html

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Re: Moment innocent man was left with catastrophic brain damage after being tackled by sheriff's deputy

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#13819008 - 01/20/11 09:16 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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#13819013 - 01/20/11 09:19 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

So let me get this straight... the officers were in black clothes, running at him in a dark alley in downtown Seattle, and they blame him because he ran? Why do we pay these clowns, again?

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#13819043 - 01/20/11 09:37 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Officer needs to be held accountable! What a fucking joke!

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#13819045 - 01/20/11 09:37 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

man thats terrible.

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#13819070 - 01/20/11 09:48 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Street justice. It should happen.

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#13819081 - 01/20/11 09:52 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Deplorable. Disgusting. Vile. Intollerable. :nonono:

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#13819087 - 01/20/11 09:54 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I hope that cop goes to prison dude.....they will sort him out.....

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#13819095 - 01/20/11 09:57 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

the worst part is the "oh its not our fault, he shouldn't have run." assholes

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#13819103 - 01/20/11 09:59 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

This is terrible but honestly that guy was super unlucky to land the way he did.99 times out a hundred the tacklee would be fine.

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#13819115 - 01/20/11 10:07 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

It looks like he was TRYING to hurt someone.

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#13819117 - 01/20/11 10:09 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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It looks like he was TRYING to hurt someone.

I know right! That was a serious "shove". :rolleyes:

Fucking pigs

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#13819126 - 01/20/11 10:13 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

pigs will be pigs.

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#13819128 - 01/20/11 10:14 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

" Innocent Untill PROVEN Guilty " ??

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#13819129 - 01/20/11 10:14 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

i wish i could give cops like these to drug cartels in mexico or al qaida :frown:

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#13819135 - 01/20/11 10:16 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Fucking cops.

And those are cops from my area.

I could get tackled by the same motherfucker.

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#13819148 - 01/20/11 10:20 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Also

Recently a cop shot and killed an old Native American dude who was whittling in Seattle.

http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/dailyweekly/2010/10/john_t_williams_court_inquest.php

He was shot in the side. "He was coming at me with the knife!"

Fucking pigs.

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#13819154 - 01/20/11 10:21 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Why tackle in the first place,the guys hands were in clear sight and he'd stopped moving.

Would grabbing hold of him been too hard? Maybe he should have been shot or tazed :facepalm:

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#13819205 - 01/20/11 10:38 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

That guy was more than shoved. He literally FLEW through the air. There was no reason for that officer's actions. The officer should face life imprisonment without parole. Just as that man is now imprisoned inside his own body.

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#13819206 - 01/20/11 10:38 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Jesus christ. That cop hit him like a fucking NFL linebacker. That cop is scum.

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#13819208 - 01/20/11 10:39 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Damn man, that is ridiculous. I was pissed yesterday for getting a seatbelt ticket. This thread puts that into perspective.

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#13819210 - 01/20/11 10:40 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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I'd say I'd get stage fright in a situation like that.

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#13819217 - 01/20/11 10:42 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Watch out or you'd get shot for posing a biological hazard. I like the balls that guy has though.

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#13819227 - 01/20/11 10:45 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

No justice
No peace

You know the rest.

This sort of thing boils my blood.

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#13819281 - 01/20/11 11:00 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

remebeer this one? SWAT busts in a guys house, blasts the family dog and takes down the father while talking shit all in front of the kid. Over a bag of weed.

Job well done men, you should sleep better tonight knowing you took a menace to society of the streets and put him behind bars.

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#13819309 - 01/20/11 11:06 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I almost cried

That really made me sick.

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#13861685 - 01/27/11 08:10 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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theblackhole said:
remebeer this one? SWAT busts in a guys house, blasts the family dog and takes down the father while talking shit all in front of the kid. Over a bag of weed.

Job well done men, you should sleep better tonight knowing you took a menace to society of the streets and put him behind bars.

Do you know where that happened or maybe the man's name? I'm very curious about the circumstances of this search warrant. Very disturbing video though :feelsbadman:

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#13861706 - 01/27/11 08:14 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

it's always a terrible accident when the cops do it.

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#13861734 - 01/27/11 08:19 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

The dude even stopped a second before the cop floored him as hard as he could, That was completely un-necessary.

50 bucks says the cop will walk away from the trial scott free.

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#13861769 - 01/27/11 08:25 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

These violent people use the facade of uniforms and "protecting the public" to have free range and power over people - the majority of whom aren't violet and just want to be left alone.

I feel sad for them in a way. Most all of them are losers.

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#13861777 - 01/27/11 08:25 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

187 on a mother fucking pig.

that fucker deserves to rot in prison for the rest of his life, or until mr. harris fully recovers.

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#13861779 - 01/27/11 08:26 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

This is what happens when you let overweight chimpanzees run around in uniform. He should be put down like any other out of control animal.

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#13861801 - 01/27/11 08:28 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Jimtown said:
His family, including his wife, are now taking the case to court alleging King County Deputies Matthew Paul and Joseph Eshom used excessive force.

Instead, they stumbled across Mr Harris who was an innocent passerby.

They asked him to stop but instead he ran away.

why would an innocent man run from the cops, if they think that's excessive
force, they should look into the fleeing felon laws

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#13861811 - 01/27/11 08:30 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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The dude even stopped a second before the cop floored him as hard as he could, That was completely un-necessary.

a 250lb pig has a lot of momentum, stopping isnt easy for them

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#13861812 - 01/27/11 08:30 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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Jimtown said:
His family, including his wife, are now taking the case to court alleging King County Deputies Matthew Paul and Joseph Eshom used excessive force.

Instead, they stumbled across Mr Harris who was an innocent passerby.

They asked him to stop but instead he ran away.

why would an innocent man run from the cops, if they think that's excessive
force, they should look into the fleeing felon laws

They were not in regular police attire. They were in all black close, and he was running out of the alley.

He stopped once he turned the corner in front of the cinema, once he realized it was police (i believe)

Edit: and to add, I believe every police official should wear the same clothing. That way they are recognizable no matter where you are. that way mistaken identity is not the issue.

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#13861827 - 01/27/11 08:31 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Bodhi of Ankou said:
The dude even stopped a second before the cop floored him as hard as he could, That was completely un-necessary.

a 250lb pig has a lot of momentum, stopping isnt easy for them

Oh, hello Mr. Devil's Advocate.

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#13861835 - 01/27/11 08:32 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Cops are the biggest gang around.

And they are some of the biggest self loathing power tripping pricks There is, Anyone who dons that uniform for the incentive of the power it brings deserves to get lined up and shot in the gut.

I was wondering when you were gonna drop in and start defending them, Its easy to stop when you got rubber sole'd shoes on and your on a carpet I dont give a fuck if your 300lbs Its easy to transfer all your force to the side in a single step

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#13861840 - 01/27/11 08:33 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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j0nnyb0y05 said:
They were not in regular police attire. They were in all black close, and he was running out of the alley.

the uniform is all black with patches which were clearly visible in the video

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Edit: and to add, I believe every police official should wear the same clothing. That way they are recognizable no matter where you are. that way mistaken identity is not the issue.

which would be what? black BDUs?

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#13861850 - 01/27/11 08:34 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Jimtown said:
His family, including his wife, are now taking the case to court alleging King County Deputies Matthew Paul and Joseph Eshom used excessive force.

Instead, they stumbled across Mr Harris who was an innocent passerby.

They asked him to stop but instead he ran away.

why would an innocent man run from the cops, if they think that's excessive
force, they should look into the fleeing felon laws

They do shit like this all the time and then wonder why people run. Fucking insanity.

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#13861857 - 01/27/11 08:35 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Bodhi of Ankou said:
The dude even stopped a second before the cop floored him as hard as he could, That was completely un-necessary.

a 250lb pig has a lot of momentum, stopping isnt easy for them

Oh, hello Mr. Devil's Advocate.

I just called the cop a lardass, when a cop says "police department, stop mother fucker" what do you do.... run?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleeing_felon_rule

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In Common law, the Fleeing Felon Rule permits the use of force, including deadly force, against an individual who is suspected of a felony and is in clear flight. Force may be used by the victim, bystanders, or police officers.

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#13861863 - 01/27/11 08:36 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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why would an innocent man run from the cops,

For safety. Every person has something to fear from the cops, not matter how guilty or innocent.

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#13861864 - 01/27/11 08:36 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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His family, including his wife, are now taking the case to court alleging King County Deputies Matthew Paul and Joseph Eshom used excessive force.

Instead, they stumbled across Mr Harris who was an innocent passerby.

They asked him to stop but instead he ran away.

why would an innocent man run from the cops, if they think that's excessive
force, they should look into the fleeing felon laws

They do shit like this all the time and then wonder why people run. Fucking insanity.

they do shit like that when you run, how the fuck can the give chase and
slam you at 20mph with all their mass if they cant get to a running speed

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#13861866 - 01/27/11 08:37 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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fight the power! but really though what a shame for the victim and his family. in mere moments their lives were changed forever beacause some fuckwit cop wanted to pretend he was sackin someone in the nfl. :facepalm:

when will it end.

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#13861877 - 01/27/11 08:38 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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They were not in regular police attire. They were in all black close, and he was running out of the alley.

the uniform is all black with patches which were clearly visible in the video

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Edit: and to add, I believe every police official should wear the same clothing. That way they are recognizable no matter where you are. that way mistaken identity is not the issue.

which would be what? black BDUs?

pris your losing a lot of respect from me just saying.

They were all running down the alley, and where I am from, alleys are not light at all.

And these are the familiar uniforms.

Why are you taking the side of the cops anyway? whats the point of your fucking argument. That a because a fat cop who cant stop running, even if an 80 woman got in his way; who was wearing complete black clothing with a second individual that were chasing a single person down a dark alleyway; who stopped once he realized who they were; is on the fault of the individual?

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#13861878 - 01/27/11 08:38 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Also

Recently a cop shot and killed an old Native American dude who was whittling in Seattle.

http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/dailyweekly/2010/10/john_t_williams_court_inquest.php

He was shot in the side. "He was coming at me with the knife!"

Fucking pigs.

The knife was closed, the man was partially deaf, and they were approximately 5 seconds between when he said stop and when he shot him.

Fuck these bastards.

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#13861880 - 01/27/11 08:38 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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why would an innocent man run from the cops,

For safety. Every person has something to fear from the cops, not matter how guilty or innocent.

what do I have to fear from the cops?

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#13861891 - 01/27/11 08:39 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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what do I have to fear from the cops?

Violence, theft, imprisonment, harassment, etc. They are nothing more than punk gang members that hide behind a badge and a gun. They are some of the worst citizens that America has to offer.

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#13861897 - 01/27/11 08:41 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Dont give us some bullshit about how the poor wittle cop couldnt stop even if he wanted to, A large heavy set man in a full sprint can easily transfer his momentum and force off to the side with a single side step. Instead you can clearly see this cop put his arms into a cross and give him that extra shove when he contacted him.

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#13861905 - 01/27/11 08:41 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Violence, theft, imprisonment, harassment, etc. They are nothing more than punk gang members that hide behind a badge and a gun. They are some of the worst citizens that America has to offer.

Just as with politicians; the worst people to be in positions of power are always the most likely to gain positions of power.

I find this discussion a little tasteless when you think about what actually happened to the man.

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#13861918 - 01/27/11 08:42 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Mistake 1. Guy ran when he didn't do anything wrong
Mistake 2. Guy didn't get on the ground

I've learnt over the years that it's always better to put yourself on your stomach/face then to let an officer take you down.

If you're getting charged by a cop, don't stand still and put your hands up, you're going to get fucking owned by a football tackle. What did he think was going to happen?

Force was excessive but a tackle would be reasonable, just a really bad way to land.

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#13861937 - 01/27/11 08:45 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Violence, theft, imprisonment, harassment, etc. They are nothing more than punk gang members that hide behind a badge and a gun. They are some of the worst citizens that America has to offer.

QFT

It should say something about a society when the supposed protectors are the ones feared most. I myself am much more scared of a cop than any of the gangster wanabees that run around this town trying to always start shit.

And every cop i know(some personally) became a cop because they were either to dumb or to lazy to learn anything else. But that's just my experience.

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#13861966 - 01/27/11 08:48 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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They were all running down the alley, and where I am from, alleys are not light at all.

when are alleys in front of theaters?

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And these are the familiar uniforms.

and so are these

Why are you taking the side of the cops anyway?

I'm not, I'm saying the guy was a dumbass for running from the cops if he
committed no crime, cops will give chase and even though he's not guilty
of what he was initially suspected of he's opened himself up to violence
and a few charges by simply running from them

why does everyone assume I'm siding with cops when I'm just pointing out
that you need to look at the whole picture, not just the bleeding heart
anti cop liberal bullshit... I ran from the cops a few times, every time I
was guilty of something, when I've done nothing I dont run

why'd the dumbass run?

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who stopped once he realized who they were; is on the fault of the individual?

Give me a big FUCKING BREAK

he didnt stop, I just watched the video again, first time since this
incident first occurred, he was still at a jog when the cop nailed him

why'd he run from the cops if he was innocent?

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#13861975 - 01/27/11 08:49 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Mistake 1. Guy ran when he didn't do anything wrong
Mistake 2. Guy didn't get on the ground

I've learnt over the years that it's always better to put yourself on your stomach/face then to let an officer take you down.

If you're getting charged by a cop, don't stand still and put your hands up, you're going to get fucking owned by a football tackle. What did he think was going to happen?

Force was excessive but a tackle would be reasonable, just a really bad way to land.

1. it's called the fight or flight response. sometimes instincts take the wheel.
2. i agree with you on this one. if i knew it was the cops i woulda gotten on the ground quickly as possible.

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#13861983 - 01/27/11 08:50 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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what do I have to fear from the cops?

Violence, theft, imprisonment, harassment, etc. They are nothing more than punk gang members that hide behind a badge and a gun. They are some of the worst citizens that America has to offer.

so innocent people are always imprisoned, stolen from and beaten?

sounds to me like you're describing the guilty

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#13861987 - 01/27/11 08:51 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Ive ran from the cops on many occasions, and Ive gotten down and let them get me many times too. Its something you really have to decide in the spur of the moment what is best for your safety.

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#13861994 - 01/27/11 08:51 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Mistake 1. Guy ran when he didn't do anything wrong
Mistake 2. Guy didn't get on the ground

I've learnt over the years that it's always better to put yourself on your stomach/face then to let an officer take you down.

2. i agree with you on this one. if i knew it was the cops i woulda gotten on the ground quickly as possible.

no shit... it sucks to go down the hard way, resist by running and it's 10x worse

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#13862000 - 01/27/11 08:52 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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so innocent people are always imprisoned, stolen from and beaten?

Not always, but often enough for the innocent to be legitimately afraid of the cops.

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sounds to me like you're describing the guilty

I dont know if there is an innocent person from a cops perspective.

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#13862004 - 01/27/11 08:53 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Mistake 1. Guy ran when he didn't do anything wrong
Mistake 2. Guy didn't get on the ground

I've learnt over the years that it's always better to put yourself on your stomach/face then to let an officer take you down.

If you're getting charged by a cop, don't stand still and put your hands up, you're going to get fucking owned by a football tackle. What did he think was going to happen?

Force was excessive but a tackle would be reasonable, just a really bad way to land.

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#13862031 - 01/27/11 08:56 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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so innocent people are always imprisoned, stolen from and beaten?

Not always, but often enough for the innocent to be legitimately afraid of the cops.

so what's the actual percentage... 70%, 85%... is it just like prison where everyone is innocent?

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I dont know if there is an innocent person from a cops perspective.

I think that running from them leads them to believe you're guilty much
faster than if you stop and comply with an order they've given, they have
the badge, the gun and the authority, what are your choices?

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#13862041 - 01/27/11 08:59 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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they have the badge, the gun and the authority, what are your choices?

Run or submit. Or, in a last ditch effort - fight back. Ive only done the former of course, since Im still here in the land of the living.

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#13862158 - 01/27/11 09:18 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

well we see how 'run' can work out, once you've committed you cant change
your mind in mid stream and think "well goodness, I'm innocent, why the hell
am I running, I guess I'll just wait here" because we see it never ends well

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#13862184 - 01/27/11 09:20 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

hey pris this is taken directly from witnesses in regards to their clothing

"At the hearing Thursday, the Seattle Times reported, three witnesses who saw the incident testified. One said the group had no idea who the deputies were because they were dressed in dark fatigues.

The deputy "just came right at him full force and pushed him. The kid lifted off in the air and slammed" into the wall, said Cody, 44.

"I ran up because I didn't know who these guys were," (Ron) Cody said of the deputies, testifying that he thought they were bouncers because of their all-black dress."

: thanks for the rating
"and because I'm not some bleeding heart liberal fag

if the dumbass was innocent, why'd he run? ":

Name calling is for 9 year olds, and BECAUSE NO ONE KNEW THEY WERE POLICE YOU IDIOT!

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#13862258 - 01/27/11 09:32 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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#13862285 - 01/27/11 09:36 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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hey pris this is taken directly from witnesses in regards to their clothing

"At the hearing Thursday, the Seattle Times reported, three witnesses who saw the incident testified. One said the group had no idea who the deputies were because they were dressed in dark fatigues.

in the video you can see the patches, not my fault that these witnesses are unreliable and blind

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The deputy "just came right at him full force and pushed him. The kid lifted off in the air and slammed" into the wall, said Cody, 44.

seems like yet another unreliable witness, the video camera shows
something a little different, the 'victim' slowed, the cop was far from
slamming him full force, I see a hard shove with a tragic result

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"I ran up because I didn't know who these guys were," (Ron) Cody said of the deputies, testifying that he thought they were bouncers because of their all-black dress."

blind bastard couldnt see the kevlar and patches, thought they were
bouncers, certainly not gang bangers or other criminal elements, again,
why'd this 'innocent man' run when he was told to stop

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Name calling is for 9 year olds, and BECAUSE NO ONE KNEW THEY WERE POLICE YOU IDIOT!

this is the pub, you may wanna check those rules and it's apparent by the uniforms that they're cops

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#13862329 - 01/27/11 09:43 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

whatever pris, if you're in a position of moderating, don't be immature....

and in the video, I see a man putting his hands up.

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#13862336 - 01/27/11 09:44 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Well he was obviously innocent, so no need to put it in quotes.

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#13862355 - 01/27/11 09:46 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

where's that start... was it in this thread with the 'you're making me lose
respect for you' comments, then a bad rating, I leave one and now here you are

once more, why did an innocent man run from the cops that shouted "police, stop!"

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#13862358 - 01/27/11 09:46 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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once more, why did an innocent man run from the cops that shouted "police, stop!"

Because he was scared of them, and rightfully so.

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#13862364 - 01/27/11 09:47 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Well he was obviously innocent, so no need to put it in quotes.

why'd he run if he was innocent, innocent people tend to not run, maybe he
wasnt guilty of the crime they happened to be investigating at that point but
it certainly doesnt make him innocent especially when running from the cops
is a crime in it's self

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#13862374 - 01/27/11 09:49 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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once more, why did an innocent man run from the cops that shouted "police, stop!"

Because he was scared of them, and rightfully so.

just because you fear the cops doesnt mean everyone should, I dont fear them

what was the percentage of people that are imprisoned for crimes they dont commit?

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#13862385 - 01/27/11 09:50 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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once more, why did an innocent man run from the cops that shouted "police, stop!"

Because he was scared of them, and rightfully so.

just because you fear the cops doesnt mean everyone should, I dont fear them

what was the percentage of people that are imprisoned for crimes they dont commit?

I dont know, but I do know that the US has 25% of the entire worlds prison population.

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#13862395 - 01/27/11 09:51 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Got to agree with pris on this. I mean, I don't like the way the pig handled the situation either. But WHY DID THE MAN RUN!?

Still, watching the video is so sad. Bam, you're dead!

This video/story is ugly all the way around.

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#13862397 - 01/27/11 09:51 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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once more, why did an innocent man run from the cops that shouted "police, stop!"

Because he was scared of them, and rightfully so.

Thats all it really boils down to. There could be a shit ton of different reasons
for why he ran.

He did stop and put his arms up. And Im pretty sure that is not an official
procedural move to restrain someone. He could have done all kinds of damage
to that guy even if he didnt hit his head on that wall.

That cop should be in jail for as long as that guy is in a coma or whatever.

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#13862401 - 01/27/11 09:52 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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what was the percentage of people that are imprisoned for crimes they dont commit?

I dont know, but its not really relevant to this topic at all.

He was innocent, they brutally attacked him. Sounds like yet another reason for innocent people to be scared of the police. The police are the enemy, the enemy of every freedom loving American.

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#13862429 - 01/27/11 09:56 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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I do know that the US has 25% of the entire worlds prison population.

and every last one of them is innocent, just ask them, they'll tell ya so

obviously you're unfamilliar with actual statistics, russia comes in a close
second to the US and china we can only estimate the number of actual
prisoners because many are political prisoners that are unaccounted for

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#13862432 - 01/27/11 09:57 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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He was innocent, they brutally attacked him.

That wasn't a brutal attack by any means.

It was a shove that caught him while he was off balance and had a unfortunate landing impact.

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#13862446 - 01/27/11 10:00 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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He was innocent, they brutally attacked him.

That wasn't a brutal attack by any means.

It was a shove that caught him while he was off balance and had a unfortunate landing impact.

Bullshit.

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#13862455 - 01/27/11 10:01 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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what was the percentage of people that are imprisoned for crimes they dont commit?

I dont know, but its not really relevant to this topic at all.

then why would you keep bringing it up

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so innocent people are always imprisoned, stolen from and beaten?

Not always, but often enough for the innocent to be legitimately afraid of the cops.

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sounds to me like you're describing the guilty

I dont know if there is an innocent person from a cops perspective.

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what do I have to fear from the cops?

Violence, theft, imprisonment, harassment, etc. They are nothing more than punk gang members that hide behind a badge and a gun. They are some of the worst citizens that America has to offer.

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Re: Moment innocent man was left with catastrophic brain damage after being tackled by sheriff's deputy

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#13862456 - 01/27/11 10:01 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I don't think that "dark alley, dark clothes" bit applies at all. Don't they have to announce their position as cops before they start using any kind of force?

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Re: Moment innocent man was left with catastrophic brain damage after being tackled by sheriff's deputy

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#13862458 - 01/27/11 10:01 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Ive only seen some get rocked that hard once, and that was during a football game. That was a brutal tackle.

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Re: Moment innocent man was left with catastrophic brain damage after being tackled by sheriff's deputy

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#13862462 - 01/27/11 10:02 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Ive only seen some get rocked that hard once, and that was during a football game. That was a brutal tackle.

And by no means was that the way they taught that fucker anyways.

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Re: Moment innocent man was left with catastrophic brain damage after being tackled by sheriff's deputy

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#13862475 - 01/27/11 10:05 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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He was innocent, they brutally attacked him.

That wasn't a brutal attack by any means.

It was a shove that caught him while he was off balance and had a unfortunate landing impact.

Bullshit.

it's what I saw as well

brutality was the 12yo girl in texas snatched into a van, accused of being
a hooker and beaten b undercover cops, then 3 weeks later arrested for
assaulting the cops that beat her, excessive force was the kids in hall
county georgia and pasedena california that were shot by cops because they
were in possession of BB guns and did nothing that posed anyone any
threat, the hall county one it was an off duty jail guard that wasnt even
authorized to carry a weapon and shot them while they were getting water
from a hose outside of a gas station

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Re: Moment innocent man was left with catastrophic brain damage after being tackled by sheriff's deputy

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#13862477 - 01/27/11 10:06 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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then why would you keep bringing it up

Im not talking about being innocent and going to prison. Im talking about police violence, thieving, lying and generally abusing the civilian population. Most victims of the police never go to prison.

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Re: Moment innocent man was left with catastrophic brain damage after being tackled by sheriff's deputy

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#13862481 - 01/27/11 10:07 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

What happens when a man running full speed hits a man who is standing still
with his arms up?

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#13862488 - 01/27/11 10:07 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Ive only seen some get rocked that hard once, and that was during a football game. That was a brutal tackle.

must be some real pussies at those football games, I've seen people get hit
harder when they were just fucking around, hell, when I was 14 I had a 30yo
man that was 3x my size hit me harder in a football game

if it were a tackle the cop would have gone down with the guy

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Re: Moment innocent man was left with catastrophic brain damage after being tackled by sheriff's deputy

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#13862490 - 01/27/11 10:08 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Ive only seen some get rocked that hard once, and that was during a football game. That was a brutal tackle.

The guy didn't have his legs braced, his feet were close together and standing side-on when he got hit, ANYONE would fall directly over even from a soft push.

I believe if he was in a reasonable stance with braced legs the hit would have been very minor, possibly not even falling over.

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Re: Moment innocent man was left with catastrophic brain damage after being tackled by sheriff's deputy

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#13862492 - 01/27/11 10:08 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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then why would you keep bringing it up

Im not talking about being innocent and going to prison. Im talking about police violence, thieving, lying and generally abusing the civilian population. Most victims of the police never go to prison.

but this was your previous claim, now it's changed

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Re: Moment innocent man was left with catastrophic brain damage after being tackled by sheriff's deputy

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#13862494 - 01/27/11 10:09 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Ive only seen some get rocked that hard once, and that was during a football game. That was a brutal tackle.

The guy didn't have his legs braced, his feet were close together and standing side-on when he got hit, ANYONE would fall directly over even from a soft push.

I believe if he was in a reasonable position the hit would have been very minor.

Lets try this in real life. Why dont you set up a video camera a be the test
subject. I would love to tell us how you felt afterwords :lol:

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Re: Moment innocent man was left with catastrophic brain damage after being tackled by sheriff's deputy

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#13862499 - 01/27/11 10:09 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

There is a difference between excessive force and a brutal attack. Honestly a lot of this is just unfortunate circumstances. Granted the cop's actions were excessive, but I've seen people get fucked up pretty bad just playing sports and end up with a concussions at worst.

I don't condone what the cops did, and it seems their action in the aftermath was pretty bad, but I wouldn't call it a brutal attack. They do have guns after all, their intentions could have been a lot worse.

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#13862504 - 01/27/11 10:11 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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What happens when a man running full speed hits a man who is standing still
with his arms up?

best check it again, the cop stopped and nailed him as he was stopping, had
it been full force the cops momentum would have carried hi tot the wall or on
top of the guy and the guys arms were not up and he wasnt standing still

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Re: Moment innocent man was left with catastrophic brain damage after being tackled by sheriff's deputy

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#13862505 - 01/27/11 10:11 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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but this was your previous claim, now it's changed

Nope, you are incorrect. I never claimed that any percentage of people in prison are innocent. I claimed that innocent people have plenty to fear from the police. Do you not understand the difference?

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Re: Moment innocent man was left with catastrophic brain damage after being tackled by sheriff's deputy

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#13862509 - 01/27/11 10:12 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

the cop did not stop. The only reason he stopped moving is because he hit the guy like a wall.

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#13862511 - 01/27/11 10:13 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Why do you guys even bother arguing with him? It's futile. The man REFUSES to be wrong, and will argue any point if he's bored enough (which seems to be quite often).

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#13862517 - 01/27/11 10:14 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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There is a difference between excessive force and a brutal attack.

agreed, it was excessive, the guy was slowing down but as the cop was closing
he started to throw up an arm, probably defensive but also probably perceived
as threatening by the cop who was already chasing what he believed to be a
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#13862518 - 01/27/11 10:14 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Ok he didnt have his hands up but it doesnt mater WTF?

How can you accept this as ok by any means?? That was not the guy the cops were
after. Who knows why the guy ran but he did. He did stop. Cop busted his ass good
with a move that I am sure cops are not taught to use.

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#13862520 - 01/27/11 10:15 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

BTW I remember why I had you on ignore lol. Gona have to utilize this shit again.

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#13862523 - 01/27/11 10:15 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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the cop did not stop. The only reason he stopped moving is because he hit the guy like a wall.

so the smaller man was like a wall, the cop made contact one step forward, stopped then stepped forward to detain his suspect

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#13862536 - 01/27/11 10:18 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

It's not hard to stop on a dime if you're transferring your force from yourself to another person. Ever watched a football game? Safeties and linebackers do it all the time. It's not like he collided with him, he was planning on hitting the guy. Run really fast, take probably two steps to plant and begin the hit, transfer force from lower body to upper body, transfer force from yourself to another person. There goes your momentum and the guy you're trying to hit.

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#13862553 - 01/27/11 10:22 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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j0nnyb0y05 said:
the cop did not stop. The only reason he stopped moving is because he hit the guy like a wall.

so the smaller man was like a wall, the cop made contact one step forward, stopped then stepped forward to detain his suspect

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Ok he didnt have his hands up but it doesnt mater WTF?

looks like he was trying to fight in this frame, can you show me a cop running in this squatted position at full speed?

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#13862574 - 01/27/11 10:26 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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It's not hard to stop on a dime if you're transferring your force from yourself to another person. Ever watched a football game? Safeties and linebackers do it all the time. It's not like he collided with him, he was planning on hitting the guy. Run really fast, take probably two steps to plant and begin the hit, transfer force from lower body to upper body, transfer force from yourself to another person. There goes your momentum and the guy you're trying to hit.

and all that means he slowed down in order to plant... been there, done that

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#13862576 - 01/27/11 10:27 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Well since we're just repeating ourselves at this point I'll continue...

The screen shot you posted would be the two steps I was talking about where he begins to transfer force. You don't hit someone by just running at them and then through them. I'm sure you know exactly what I'm talk about but will continue to deny that anything you say is wrong. It's really quite amusing at this point.

Life must be great being as all-knowing as you are, Pris. You've probably even got the secret to immortality all worked out, you sly bastard.

Edit: Right, he slowed down enough to plant (which really isn't that much), but you have to be foolish to think he wasn't running fast and that effects how hard his hit is. I've had far more force running and delivering a body check as opposed to just throwing one standing still. One is effective, the other just gets me smoked on a field.

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#13862588 - 01/27/11 10:29 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I'm observant, I dont delude myself into thinking things I dont see, it's as simple as that.

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#13862596 - 01/27/11 10:31 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Actually, to those who disagree with you that's exactly what you're doing. And to you that's exactly what we're doing. But of course you're the one who is right, how foolish of me to even questions you.

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#13862618 - 01/27/11 10:35 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

so, the cops in all black that no one could ID as cops did in fact have
patches, the guy had stopped yet we can see he was still in motion prior to
contact, the guy had his arms up yet we can see he appears to be in a
position to brace for the impact and it in almost looks like he's about to
try and fight the cop but I'm not seeing what I'm seeing

show me where any of what I've said regarding this incident is wrong

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#13862639 - 01/27/11 10:39 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I didn't think it looked like he was getting ready to fight, it looked more like a "Oh shit" kinda thing. It's fight or flight, not flight AND fight. He was in the process of stopping. Unlike to cop he wasn't transferring his force to anything so his ability to stop wasn't nearly as good.

But really all I'm saying is there are obviously people who disagree with you. They present their point, your present yours. All parties act like they are all-knowing. Thing is I always see this from you and I have never once seen you admit you were wrong. Never. I've never even seen you admit the possibility you were wrong, or you might not know (like this situation where a shitty CCTV cam with no sound isn't the most reliable source), or even entertain the idea that someone else is right. Arguing with you is fucking futile and I don't see why people do it. I've resorted to talking about one point and repeating it over and over again to cut to the chase since that's the only thing an argument with you ends up in.

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#13862695 - 01/27/11 10:51 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

the guy running looked like he was barely jogging, he slowed down and raised his hands which is what people do when they see a cop. If this is the only video, were there any wittnesses to say these cops really did identify themselves? Regardless, it sounded like these 2 black clothed characters started chasing and "then" the man started running, which seems odd but maybe im wrong and miss read.

anyways from that video posted that cop was clearly running as fast as he could towards someone "barely" jogging and slowing down, the cop clearly planted his foot so he could push the guy as hard as he could into the wall, hence snapped neck. Once his foot was planted it was up to him to determine how much force went into his push, he determined to use it all, on a twig figuer....from the side...almost stopped. He was wearing a white top, both hands in air, even at the side weapons would be clearly visable. This is abuse of power by a cop raging in his pants. This is 2011, everyone should be aware of people with disabilitys of varying degree's, and cops should be very very aware, just because someone doesn't stop right away doesn't mean shit. The guy was clearly stopping. Plus lets say he did realize they were cops at some point, they looked like they were trying to kill him, i wouldn't want to stop either.

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#13862714 - 01/27/11 10:56 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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I didn't think it looked like he was getting ready to fight, it looked more like a "Oh shit" kinda thing.

as I said it almost looks as though he's going to try and fight the cop but also stated he was trying to brace for the impact.

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It's fight or flight, not flight AND fight. He was in the process of stopping. Unlike to cop he wasn't transferring his force to anything so his ability to stop wasn't nearly as good.

for some it's both, text book isnt real life, sometimes you run but you
have no choice but to stop running and put up a fight, not saying this guy
was doing so but I've seen the flight and fight scenario play out many
times, I was the small kid in school and I've been there, sometimes that
flight works to your advantage when you decide to fight

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But really all I'm saying is there are obviously people who disagree with you. They present their point, your present yours. All parties act like they are all-knowing. Thing is I always see this from you and I have never once seen you admit you were wrong.

just because you dont see it doesnt mean it doesnt happen, it's like the people that see things that were not there, in this video I see the 'suspect' trying to shift his weight as can be seen in the frame I just posted, yet you dont see that and others saw him with his arms in the air as though he was getting ready to surrender, still more saw the cop tackle the guy instead of bulldogging him

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Never. I've never even seen you admit the possibility you were wrong, or you might not know (like this situation where a shitty CCTV cam with no sound isn't the most reliable source)

the CCTV footage seems to be more reliable than eye witness accounts as to
the moments leading to impact, what is the thing most often said about eye
witness testimony? it's what makes the video footage important

http://scienceblogs.com/cortex/2007/05/unreliable_eyewitness_testimon.php
http://www.law.yale.edu/news/2727.htm
http://agora.stanford.edu/sjls/Issue%20One/fisher&tversky.htm
http://richardwanke.com/2009/03/13/60-minutes-shows-unreliability-of-eyewitness-testimony/

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#13862736 - 01/27/11 11:00 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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the guy running looked like he was barely jogging, he slowed down and raised his hands which is what people do when they see a cop.

do they raise their hands like this?

or like this?

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#13862759 - 01/27/11 11:05 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

his hands are raised thats all that matters, there's a number of things that "could" have been wrong with him and the cops should realize this potential, and again the guy is walking almost at the end there, its pretty easy to see that he was stopping, but the cop was having none of that, he wanted to hurt him, he could have stopped himself and seen what the guy was going to do, or stunned him, maced him, or just decked him if he was raising his hands to fight, instead thrown into a wall...

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#13862770 - 01/27/11 11:07 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

if someone killed my dog i'd be barking to no end... piss 'em off.

and derka derka derka, cops kill civilians... duh duh duhhhhhh!!11 you're fired and you get jail time!

unless, we live on earth... oh wwwwait, we do. :tinfoil:

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#13862790 - 01/27/11 11:10 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Its easy to distort a single frame of a video to suit your needs, Any one whos raising there hands will momentarily put them into a what looks like a fighting stance your frame proves jack shit.

Was there a need at all to tackle him? NO there wasnt, Couldnt the cop have done a hundred other things like asking him to stop or just running up to him and grabbing a hold of him, Couldnt he have even tased him Or at least tackled him by wrapping his arms around him and bringing him down?

NO instead of doing anything else he could have done he choose the most violent take down he could have done and floored a skinny dude who wasnt even acting aggressive with all the force he could muster.

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#13862849 - 01/27/11 11:26 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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his hands are raised thats all that matters

this guy's hands are raised in a very similar position, I wonder just how much it matters

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there's a number of things that "could" have been wrong with him and the cops should realize this potential

the cops should realize that this guy could me a serial killer or a retard
or a stock broker? obviously the guy should have realized the cops
potential especially since it's played out in the news every day

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he could have stopped himself and seen what the guy was going to do

yeah... sounds really smart, someone running from you suddenly stops, his
hands are in a fighting position, he's shifting his weight, should the cop
have waited until the guy punched him if that's what the guy was gonna do?

I wouldnt have, I'd have nailed the guy too, that's the key to self
defense, it's a split second decision, you react to what you see
immediately or you could find yourself bleeding out

I'm not saying the guy was going to fight the cop but the posture is
suggestive of that and bracing to take a hard hit, left to make that
decision in less than a second, I choose to err on the side of "I'm not
taking an ass beating from this guy"

the correct response for the guy would have been to either keep running
instead of slowing down since he'd already committed to that course of
action or hitting the deck without the cops assistance

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#13862867 - 01/27/11 11:30 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Typical paranoid american response

Well he dun coulda pulled knife out and sliced his darn throat open, WE didnt know what he was gonna do I tell you whut.

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#13862874 - 01/27/11 11:32 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Bodhi of Ankou said:
a skinny dude who wasnt even acting aggressive with all the force he could muster.

the dude ran from the cops and then suddenly has a change of heart but hits a
position like that, the cop did what he was trained to do, apprehend a
suspect with minimal injury to himself, the cop did have a dozen other
courses of action he could have taken including just shooting the guy and
claiming he was a fleeing felon

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleeing_felon_rule

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#13862899 - 01/27/11 11:37 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

You keep bringing up that rule Like he was a felon in county blue running from the police. Just cause its a law doesnt make it right, Do you agree with the drug laws? The way I see it He was turning to get a better look at who was chasing him as he slowed down and seeing he was about to get tackled raised his arms in a defensive position to brace him self as best he could at the angle I doubt he even raised his arms on purpose it was most likely a reflexive response. Minimal injury, :rolleyes:

what kind of injury is a skinny dude like that gonna inflict on a man in that type of position maybe a fat lip if he could have even managed to get a swing going in that time and cops are trained on stance and shit like that. Pffft, his life was in so much danger lordy lordy he was just protecting himself.

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#13862957 - 01/27/11 11:52 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

fuck the police.

that guy had a family and they will never be able to talk with him again.

this makes me sad and furious.

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#13863181 - 01/28/11 12:31 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Bodhi of Ankou said:
You keep bringing up that rule Like he was a felon in county blue running from the police. Just cause its a law doesnt make it right, Do you agree with the drug laws?

it doesnt matter if it's right or if I agree, it's the fucking law
just because you dont agree with the law or you dont think the law is
'right', you're still subject to them

Quote:

The way I see it He was turning to get a better look at who was chasing him as he slowed down and seeing he was about to get tackled raised his arms in a defensive position to brace him self as best he could

well, that's exactly how I see it too but we arent the cops in a chase
with someone we're trying to detain to ask a few questions that suddenly
decided to rabbit, the adrenaline gets to pumping regardless of which side
you're on and shit gets kinds of fucked up. had the guy not run, it could
have been easily handled, but from the cop perspective, he's wanting to
talk to someone about a crime, the guy bolts, he gives chase, the guys
stops and turns and starts to take what looks like an aggressive posture,
the simple factt hat the guy ran cements in the cops mind that the guy has
done something, stopping and bracing as he did looks threatening to the
cop, it certainly would to me

Quote:

Minimal injury, what kind of injury is a skinny dude like that gonna inflict on a man in that type of position maybe a fat lip if he could have even managed to get a swing going in that time and cops are trained on stance and shit like that. Pffft, his life was in so much danger lordy lordy he was just protecting himself.

dude... dont even try and play that shit, I was always the smallest kid in
school and it never took more than one fight per year to establish that
I'm also the last kid you want to fuck with, after breaking up a fight in
a pool room I worked and walking the aggressor to the door on his toes and
it taking 7 cops to keep the kid down, cuff him and get him in the car,
one of the cops flat out told me that if he ever had to arrest me and I
resisted, he wouldnt hesitate to shoot, same pool room a year later, 3
mexicans get into it, I get them out the door, cops show up ask who broke
up the fight, all fingers point to me, the cops laughed until the one that
threatened to shoot me spoke up... size means nothing, I dont care who you
are, how big you are or how well armed you are, if I perceive your intent
is to do me harm, I intend to stop you and will exercise any means
necessary to do so. that or I'm going to die trying

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#13864026 - 01/28/11 03:06 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Last word and anecdotal evidence.

I win!

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#13864041 - 01/28/11 03:08 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

He'll be back tommorrow I'm sure.

Speaking of police brutality...
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1de970650e

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Quote:

blewmeanie said:

He'll be back tommorrow I'm sure.

Speaking of police brutality...
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1de970650e

No fuckin way man??

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#13864062 - 01/28/11 03:13 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

They're in the streets for a reason.

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#13864066 - 01/28/11 03:14 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I have just given up on humanity

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#13864071 - 01/28/11 03:15 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Don't give up, get angry.

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#13864075 - 01/28/11 03:16 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Its not time to get angry yet, at least not here. People who get angry by themselves or in small groups are labeled as crazy or extremists.

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#13864080 - 01/28/11 03:17 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Everything starts with the individual.

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#13864082 - 01/28/11 03:18 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Bodhi of Ankou said:
Its not time to get angry yet, at least not here. People who get angry by themselves or in small groups are labeled as crazy or extremists.

But by either peaceful or angry we will still be met with the same force if the
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#13864083 - 01/28/11 03:18 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Fuck you guys, killin' my last word and shit.

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#13864090 - 01/28/11 03:19 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Swami blew, How will I ever become as wise as yourself :bowdown:

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#13864100 - 01/28/11 03:21 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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jewunit said:
Fuck you guys, killin' my last word and shit.

You still got the last word...until he comes back to renew the straw clutching.

Now for the real question, are poid and prissy the same poster? :strokebeard2:

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#13864103 - 01/28/11 03:22 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

DeadHearts said:
Quote:

Bodhi of Ankou said:
Its not time to get angry yet, at least not here. People who get angry by themselves or in small groups are labeled as crazy or extremists.

But by either peaceful or angry we will still be met with the same force if the
common reason for revolt is the same.

QFT, There gonna go down kicking and fighting no matter how we go about it.

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#13864106 - 01/28/11 03:22 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Bodhi of Ankou said:
Swami blew, How will I ever become as wise as yourself

whiskey

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#13864112 - 01/28/11 03:23 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Bodhi of Ankou said:
Quote:

DeadHearts said:
Quote:

Bodhi of Ankou said:
Its not time to get angry yet, at least not here. People who get angry by themselves or in small groups are labeled as crazy or extremists.

But by either peaceful or angry we will still be met with the same force if the
common reason for revolt is the same.

QFT, There gonna go down kicking and fighting no matter how we go about it.

It's hard to kick anyone when you're dangling by the neck from a flagpole.

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#13864113 - 01/28/11 03:23 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

blewmeanie said:
Quote:

jewunit said:
Fuck you guys, killin' my last word and shit.

You still got the last word...until he comes back to renew the straw clutching.

Now for the real question, are poid and prissy the same poster?

Oh man that was rich.

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#13864118 - 01/28/11 03:24 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Me and whiskey dont mix...at all, Bad things happen.

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#13864259 - 01/28/11 03:58 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

blewmeanie said:
Quote:

Bodhi of Ankou said:
Swami blew, How will I ever become as wise as yourself

whiskey

THE TRUE PATH OF WISDOM IS THROUGH GIN!

CAPS LOCK PROVES I AM RIGHT!

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#13864267 - 01/28/11 03:59 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Man wtf man.

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#13864283 - 01/28/11 04:02 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

go on with your juniper berry juice then. Would you like an umbrella in your drink too? :dumbass:

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#13864286 - 01/28/11 04:03 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

What are you, What the fucking about, boy? :mod:

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#13864303 - 01/28/11 04:06 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah right, it's all about the GTL.

Gin, tonic, lime. If you can't get down with that then you can't get down with anything.

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#13864314 - 01/28/11 04:10 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

No doubt, I'm just talking shit. :lol:

Tonight though, it's cheap as whiskey and chicken tacos. :cheers:

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#13864317 - 01/28/11 04:10 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

i like where your head is at

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#13864340 - 01/28/11 04:23 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I think I've had my share of cheap whiskey, just fucking leaves me feeling like absolute dirt the next day.

The chicken tacos though... good call.

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#13864953 - 01/28/11 10:50 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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#13865322 - 01/28/11 12:53 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

It wasn't a tackle at all. The man charged and shoved/threw him! The cop weighed almost 270 pounds....

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#13865436 - 01/28/11 01:28 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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blewmeanie said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
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Jimtown said:
His family, including his wife, are now taking the case to court alleging King County Deputies Matthew Paul and Joseph Eshom used excessive force.

Instead, they stumbled across Mr Harris who was an innocent passerby.

They asked him to stop but instead he ran away.

why would an innocent man run from the cops, if they think that's excessive
force, they should look into the fleeing felon laws

They do shit like this all the time and then wonder why people run. Fucking insanity.

they do shit like that when you run, how the fuck can the give chase and
slam you at 20mph with all their mass if they cant get to a running speed

This is bullshit. I hate when people justify the use of ACTUAL force based on suspicion. Anyone can suspect anything at any time. How can you logically defend someone murdering another person in cold blood, or in this case, causing a man irreparable brain damage such that he is an invalid and in a coma (essentially) now based on a suspicion that they may have? That doesn't make any rational sense.

You cannot justify the use of force based on suspicion unless you are on your own property where you make the rules.

It baffles me how people will accept one person blowing another, unarmed person away because the first person thought the second "had a gun and was trying to kill me!". The hypocrisy of murdering or killing someone and then trying to play the victim is something that you'll have to face when you die.

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#13865699 - 01/28/11 02:26 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

But hes a cop, and if he wants to stop you with lethal force he damn well can.

According to pris.

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#13865779 - 01/28/11 02:44 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Jimtown said:
His family, including his wife, are now taking the case to court alleging King County Deputies Matthew Paul and Joseph Eshom used excessive force.

Instead, they stumbled across Mr Harris who was an innocent passerby.

They asked him to stop but instead he ran away.

why would an innocent man run from the cops, if they think that's excessive
force, they should look into the fleeing felon laws

here comes pris to defend the brutul murderous police of america

:boxxy:

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#13865796 - 01/28/11 02:48 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Mad_Larkin said:
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The dude even stopped a second before the cop floored him as hard as he could, That was completely un-necessary.

a 250lb pig has a lot of momentum, stopping isnt easy for them

Oh, hello Mr. Devil's Advocate.

I just called the cop a lardass, when a cop says "police department, stop mother fucker" what do you do.... run?

yes, always

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#13865925 - 01/28/11 03:10 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Hologram said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Jimtown said:
His family, including his wife, are now taking the case to court alleging King County Deputies Matthew Paul and Joseph Eshom used excessive force.

Instead, they stumbled across Mr Harris who was an innocent passerby.

They asked him to stop but instead he ran away.

why would an innocent man run from the cops, if they think that's excessive
force, they should look into the fleeing felon laws

here comes pris to defend the brutul murderous police of america

Typical NWO shill behavior. :lol:

Different people have different perspectives. That's part of the beauty of the internet, you can actually have an honest discussion with someone.

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#13866327 - 01/28/11 04:32 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Bodhi of Ankou said:
But hes a cop, and if he wants to stop you with lethal force he damn well can.

According to pris.

no... that's according to the laws and frankly, I dont write the laws

now id you guys are angry about this shit, maybe you should do something
about it, join a gang, form a militia, write you politicians and have cops
stripped of their protections from prosecution and make the bastards serve
longer sentences than the rest of the populace when they're convicted

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#13866364 - 01/28/11 04:38 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I'm with pris on this. While what happened is fucked up, the dude ran. Innocent people don't run. The cop reacted.

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#13866371 - 01/28/11 04:39 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I've run from the cops in situations where I was in no legal trouble. Some people don't like cops, and in certain places cops are pretty much the last people you want to deal with.

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#13866437 - 01/28/11 04:50 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I had a roomie that didnt like cops, he never ran but he damn sure gave them
a hard time, they came to serve a warrant once and he growled at them every
time they looked in his direction, he refused to produce ID when asked since
he was in his own residence and they were there uninvited

not liking cops doesnt mean you have to run, if anything it's more reason
to stand your ground, show the bastards you're not afraid of them

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#13866607 - 01/28/11 05:21 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

i agree the laws need changed, the guy could have easily not heard them, or they may have failed to announce they were cops and just lied about it, the guy could have been disabled in the brain prior to becoming completely disabled in the brain, regardless of what the laws are, these pigs need to be held accountable for the decisions they make. Its up to them how they choice to enforce the laws, and the way that guy enforced it i hope he rots in hell.

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#13867003 - 01/28/11 06:29 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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citricacidx said:
I'm with pris on this. While what happened is fucked up, the dude ran. Innocent people don't run. The cop reacted.

Not saying what happened is right.

Your logic is "innocent people don't run".

There are a bevvy of reasons for why an innocent person would run. As has been mentioned here many times, the guy slowed down and came to a stop almost immediately.

This whole thing is just crazy and sickening. It's horrible to realize that people all around you believe that it's okay for things like this to happen, if something like this happened to coaster or roger rabbit or yoga_bunny or whoever, people would be like *shrug* "they shouldn't have been running and maybe they wouldn't be in a vegetative state".

You people truly live in a sort of hell that I can only be glad I'm not a prisoner to. You honestly believe that some people have the right to do this to others based on the rules set by the farce that is the state/government and you champion the violent tactics they employ alongside their perverted codes of conduct. I feel sorry for you.

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Re: Moment innocent man was left with catastrophic brain damage after being tackled by sheriff's deputy

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#13867212 - 01/28/11 07:05 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Where are you that magically excludes you from having to deal with police?

And did you see me say anywhere that the cop did the right thing? No.
But in all of his police training, people taking off running = suspect.

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#13867250 - 01/28/11 07:13 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I would of jammed my elbow through that pigs brain right before he blind sided me

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#13867828 - 01/28/11 09:06 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I didn't say it means you HAVE to run, but some people do. I'd rather run for about 45 seconds and not have to deal with them at all.

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Re: Moment innocent man was left with catastrophic brain damage after being tackled by sheriff's deputy

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#13867851 - 01/28/11 09:09 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

yeah... like that guy, he ran for about 45 seconds and he no longer has to deal with them

I like your plan

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Re: Moment innocent man was left with catastrophic brain damage after being tackled by sheriff's deputy

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#13867858 - 01/28/11 09:10 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Humility said:

There are a bevvy of reasons for why an innocent person would run.

because they fear the cops?

what other reasons other than they're guilty of something

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#13867891 - 01/28/11 09:19 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

You're the one who asked if he was innocent why run. I'm just explaining that people do it.

I wouldn't run from cops in a place I'm not familiar with (like we all knew the cops weren't gonna chase a bunch of white high schoolers who weren't causing any real trouble).

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Re: Moment innocent man was left with catastrophic brain damage after being tackled by sheriff's deputy

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#13868800 - 01/29/11 01:04 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I ran home drunk tonight. Passing this taxi place some guy walked out and I had to swerve towards the place to avoid him. Just as I do his girlfriend comes out and I run straight into her. I grab hold of her and stop to a halt saying sorry. Knowing that I was just running along,she starts laughing and we all start laughing and I'm on my way.

Funny how smoothly things go when you're not a fucking retard,huh?

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Re: Moment innocent man was left with catastrophic brain damage after being tackled by sheriff's deputy

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#13869401 - 01/29/11 03:39 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Police, lol.

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#13869403 - 01/29/11 03:40 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Are those titty guns?

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Re: Moment innocent man was left with catastrophic brain damage after being tackled by sheriff's deputy

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#13869409 - 01/29/11 03:43 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Yes, I think so.

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#13869422 - 01/29/11 03:49 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I came.

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#13869470 - 01/29/11 04:14 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

i love art like that

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#13869961 - 01/29/11 10:40 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I think they're gun arms to cover up his tiny little arms.

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Re: Moment innocent man was left with catastrophic brain damage after being tackled by sheriff's deputy

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#13870000 - 01/29/11 10:57 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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j0nnyb0y05 said:
They were not in regular police attire. They were in all black close, and he was running out of the alley.

the uniform is all black with patches which were clearly visible in the video

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Edit: and to add, I believe every police official should wear the same clothing. That way they are recognizable no matter where you are. that way mistaken identity is not the issue.

which would be what? black BDUs?

You should account for people's eyes, Pris. I'm sure you're right, but I for example have a bad day with my contacts, or choose to simply not wear them, and my world becomes blurrier than what you'd see on a cheap webcam. There are people out there too poor to see.

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Re: Moment innocent man was left with catastrophic brain damage after being tackled by sheriff's deputy

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#13871019 - 01/29/11 03:12 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I'm just saying I'm not the first person to say the phrase "police brutality".

Really though it's the systems fault not the cops in role. The system created a way of life that incorrectly is the word I'm going to use, to form and raise a society that occasionally does wrong things in their eyes. It's the

system that established the brain fart solution of a police task force to make us the servant comply with order. But now days it's become petty shit that people are sick of. Again not necessarily the people behind the badge i

think, but more the system in place. Reminds me of the famous Stanford Prison Experiment where they took normal college kids gave them orders and power then watched them turn to monsters.

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