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Anonymous #3
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I have a borderline racist theory about this whole thing and why a lot of guys aren't attracted to black chicks and why a lot of women aren't attracted to Asian dudes.
I think blacks (both male and female), in general, are more masculine looking than other races.
I think Asians (both male and female), in general, are more feminine looking than other races.
I think most other races, including Caucasians, (both male and female) are somewhere in the middle.
If you buy into this at all, it would explain why (culturally, especially in the media) black men are considered physically attractive, but black women not so much. It would also explain the inverse, about Asian women being considered physically attractive but Asian dudes not so much.
Flame away. It's just a theory and it certainly doesn't fit each individual, but I think there's a grain of truth in there somewhere.
What it really boils down to is what each individual human being defines as "attractive," though there are many typical characteristics deemed as generally attractive attributes.
For example, there are men who find fat women attractive, and there are women who find excessively skinny guys attractive.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that your 'theory' is somewhat racist in a general scheme of things but not particularly racist at heart or anything
it's just a bit one-sided, which kind of makes it inapplicable since there are plenty of men who find African American women attractive. in fact most guys i know would indeed dabble in the chocolatey goodness that is Black women. i've done it, and so should you. it's a liberating experience. like i'm going back to my primal instincts, a truly tribal affair.
on a side-note, i'd probably never marry one though.
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Anonymous #2
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Madtowntripper said:
It seems more logical to me that your "theory" results from years of social conditioning in which you've been lead to believe that blacks are "strong" and "assertive" and "dangerous" and other masculine-type descriptors, while Asians have been labeled as "small", and "weak" and "non-threatening".
And you'd be as wrong as wrong can be. I have lived around blacks and still do and have lived among them since I was a child.
And it has nothing to do perceiving blacks as dangerous or Asians as weak. That is ENTIRELY your butthurt projection of the racist beliefs you think I hold, which I don't, because you were offended by what I said.
What it does have to do with is the common sense observation that blacks are generally larger and more muscular and have more obvious sex characteristics (large breasts, buttocks, etc.), while Asians are undeniably smaller and more slight and have less obvious sex characteristics (smaller breasts, less body hair, etc.) And most other races DO fall in the middle of those two extremes.
That's just a fact about the shit like muscle mass and height and breast size. It doesn't mean that one group is definitely more masculine or feminine than the other (although I believe it is true), because that's just an opinion and subjective.
But acknowledging the obvious physical difference between the two groups is not social conditioning and you're either lying or in denial if you believe otherwise.
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Anonymous #3
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If you've never been to Asia, then you don't really know anything about Asians. The small percentage of the world's Asians reside in the U.S., a pitiful scope of what is really out there. And, unbeknownst to you, Asians come in all different shapes and sizes. Honestly, I used to be completely against Asian girls. But, once I visited China, my views have completely changed. Depending on where you go, you can find an Asian girl as thick as a Puerto Rican.
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Anonymous #4
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Hey guys, is it the skin color? Or the attitudes and stereotypical behavior? Even my girl says she's glad her mom raised her with Proper English and to be a lady.
Edited by Anonymous (03/01/12 01:53 PM)
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 Caribbean_Commanch
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For me, attitude is the biggest deciding factor. I admire & love all women from all culture. I prefer Jamaican women, but that's what I'm used to & had have success with. I know women from several cultures who are very cool, & are not into black males, but are not racist at all.
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Razzl3Frazzl3
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Caribbean_Commanch said:
For me, attitude is the biggest deciding factor. I admire & love all women from all culture.
Damn right Scully!
Edited by Razzl3Frazzl3 (03/01/12 01:44 PM)
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 Madtowntripper
Sun-Beams out of Cucumbers
Registered: 03/06/03
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Anonymous said: blacks and still do and have lived among them since I was a child.
And it has nothing to do perceiving blacks as dangerous or Asians as weak. That is ENTIRELY your butthurt projection of the racist beliefs you think I hold, which I don't, because you were offended by what I said.
What it does have to do with is the common sense observation that blacks are generally larger and more muscular and have more obvious sex characteristics (large breasts, buttocks, etc.), while Asians are undeniably smaller and more slight and have less obvious sex characteristics (smaller breasts, less body hair, etc.) And most other races DO fall in the middle of those two extremes.
That's just a fact about the shit like muscle mass and height and breast size. It doesn't mean that one group is definitely more masculine or feminine than the other (although I believe it is true), because that's just an opinion and subjective.
But acknowledging the obvious physical difference between the two groups is not social conditioning and you're either lying or in denial if you believe otherwise.
No, saying that one race is more (anything) than another is, clearly, racist.
There is no other way about it.
The genes which control melanin production in the body, which contribute to pigmentation and your ideas of "race" are such a vanishingly small percentage of the human genome as to be irrelevant. The overwhelmingly huge majority of what makes us humans is exactly the same from person to person, group to group, or race to race.
Thinking that the different "races" are in fact different populations is absurd.
We're all humans. None are smarter, faster, bigger, stronger, or better simply because of pigmentation.
Saying they are, any of those things, is racist.
It's the very definition of racism.
And I'm not offended by anything you say. This is the internet. Heaps and gobs of worse things are said here every second of every minute of every day. I was merely pointing out why you were wrong.
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Anonymous #2
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Madtowntripper said:
No, saying that one race is more (anything) than another is, clearly, racist.
No, that is absolutely not true and your asserting it doesn't make it true.
Saying blacks are darker skinned than Caucasians is no more racist than saying the sky is blue.
Your statement is utterly ridiculous.
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We're all humans. None are smarter, faster, bigger, stronger, or better simply because of pigmentation.
I never said anyone was better. That's your projection of what you think I believe because you're (apparently) overly politically correct, and you are extremely mistaken.
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Saying they are, any of those things, is racist.
It's the very definition of racism.
This is absolutely incorrect as well.
The definition of racism is believing in the inherent superiority or inferiority of another race, something I do NOT believe in.
Pointing out that one race tends to be, on average, darker or lighter than another race, or taller or shorter than another race, or have a higher or lower proportion of muscle mass than another race, is NOT racist.
It's just the truth. Children can see these obvious differences in groups of people, for crying out loud.
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Psychopathic666
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Madtowntripper said:
No, saying that one race is more (anything) than another is, clearly, racist.
No, that is absolutely not true and your asserting it doesn't make it true.
Saying blacks are darker skinned than Caucasians is no more racist than saying the sky is blue.
Your statement is utterly ridiculous.
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We're all humans. None are smarter, faster, bigger, stronger, or better simply because of pigmentation.
I never said anyone was better. That's your projection of what you think I believe because you're (apparently) overly politically correct, and you are extremely mistaken.
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Saying they are, any of those things, is racist.
It's the very definition of racism.
This is absolutely incorrect as well.
The definition of racism is believing in the inherent superiority or inferiority of another race, something I do NOT believe in.
Pointing out that one race tends to be, on average, darker or lighter than another race, or taller or shorter than another race, or have a higher or lower proportion of muscle mass than another race, is NOT racist.
It's just the truth. Children can see these obvious differences in groups of people, for crying out loud.
I approve this message.
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Madtowntripper
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The definition of racism is believing in the inherent superiority or inferiority of another race, something I do NOT believe in.
You said, flat-out, that blacks are more muscular than any other race.
That isn't superiority? Is gaining musculature, being stronger, somehow a step down the evolutionary ladder?
Geez, just get comfortable in your racist skin.
Heck, I date and am madly in love with a girl who is dark as night and I'm more than a little racist myself.
Admit it, it feels good.
And it's much more honest than drawing huge and sweeping generalizations about people based on skin color and then denying you're doing so.
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After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action. If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it. - Ernest Hemingway
If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it. In the law courts, in business, in government. There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent. -Cormac MacCarthy
He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Aeschylus
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Anonymous #2
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Madtowntripper said:
You said, flat-out, that blacks are more muscular than any other race.
Yes, and this is nothing but the truth. Studies consistently show that blacks tend to have a higher skeletal muscle/adipose tissue ratio than other races.
Don't blame me because you aren't aware of this.
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That isn't superiority?
Nope, not superiority. Just different.
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Geez, just get comfortable in your racist skin.
Heck, I date and am madly in love with a girl who is dark as night and I'm more than a little racist myself.
Admit it, it feels good.
And it's much more honest than drawing huge and sweeping generalizations about people based on skin color and then denying you're doing so.
If you honestly think acknowledging that people with ancestry from one area of the world (ie different races) tend to be taller or shorter or darker or lighter is racist, then maybe you need to take a good hard look at why you're such an oversensitive baby about this topic and see if maybe there's something inside yourself that you're desperately projecting onto other people.
Groups of people from different areas of the world have common physical traits. Plugging your ears and going "LALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU EVERYONE IS EXACTLY THE SAME LALALALA" and calling anybody who doesn't agree with you a racist is a pretty irrational overreaction.
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Anonymous #5
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Every race is infatuated with white woman- sorry its the truth  , the hot black chicks are the ones with white features.
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Humility
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Madtowntripper said:
No, saying that one race is more (anything) than another is, clearly, racist.
No, that is absolutely not true and your asserting it doesn't make it true.
Saying blacks are darker skinned than Caucasians is no more racist than saying the sky is blue.
Your statement is utterly ridiculous.
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We're all humans. None are smarter, faster, bigger, stronger, or better simply because of pigmentation.
I never said anyone was better. That's your projection of what you think I believe because you're (apparently) overly politically correct, and you are extremely mistaken.
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Saying they are, any of those things, is racist.
It's the very definition of racism.
This is absolutely incorrect as well.
The definition of racism is believing in the inherent superiority or inferiority of another race, something I do NOT believe in.
Pointing out that one race tends to be, on average, darker or lighter than another race, or taller or shorter than another race, or have a higher or lower proportion of muscle mass than another race, is NOT racist.
It's just the truth. Children can see these obvious differences in groups of people, for crying out loud.
There is no such thing as "race"; literally. You're confused due to the popularity of an incorrectly postulated and then subsequently aggressively asserted theory. This theory has been extant for a few hundred years now so it's hard to blame anyone for believing it.
Position on the earth relative to the Equator determines skin color and tone with different areas creating different genotypes of adaptability that are favored in those areas.
Skin color is related to the proximity of the sun to your skin given your relative location on the globe. The same challenges and puzzles of life exist everywhere, all over the globe. Everywhere, regardless of skin color, people have had to struggle to survive and those challenges bred the most successful of those individuals.
Everyone, everywhere is the same in so far as they are human beings. Everyone is just like Einstein, excepting that Einstein was a particularly smart *human* not a smart "white person" or a smart "jew", he was just a smart person.
There are smart people of all different sorts (not just physics) all over the world.
Skin color is a passive thing; it doesn't mean anything except for how much sun you can withstand and how much vitamin D you need to supplement.
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#13777815 - 01/13/11 12:36 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Humility said:
There is no such thing as "race"; literally. You're confused due to the popularity of an incorrectly postulated and then subsequently aggressively asserted theory. This theory has been extant for a few hundred years now so it's hard to blame anyone for believing it.
This argument is flawed, and I really hate it. It gets trotted out any time anyone dares to use terms for different races.
The sum of your argument is that "race" doesn't exist because we're exactly the same physically except for skin color and that's only different because of the proximity to the sun in the area of our ancestry. And because the definitions for the different labels (black, white, Asian, etc.) are really fuzzy and indistinct (ie there are dark-skinned peoples from other areas besides Africa).
Well, that's bullshit.
Because geographically isolated peoples, in addition to developing different skin tone based on their proximity to the sun, also developed other distinct physical qualities so that you see a correlation because people with a certain geographically associated skin color also tending to have other common physical traits (height, muscle, hair color, whatever).
For example... Asians. We don't lump Asians together because of skin color, because Asians come in almost every color. Some southeast Asians are almost African dark, while there are northern Asians that are whiter than my pale Irish ass.
So then why do we lump these people together and call them Asians? Because they spring from the same geographical area and share other similar physical traits (shorter height, dark hair, epicanthic folds over their eyes, etc.)
There is no one gene or set of genes that makes someone distinctly an Asian or makes someone black or white, and the flaw in your argument is that you think this means race doesn't exist.
But race is just a term we use for peoples from the same geographical area who share similar common physical traits--NOT just similar skin tone.
Just because the terms we use for race are arbitrary and and not super-specifically defined doesn't mean they're not valid and don't have real meaning. And suggesting otherwise is a childish and illogical argument.
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Anonymous #2
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And what the hell is with the politically correct brainwashing going on in society? It's depressing.
Why is there such a push to brainwash everybody into believing that different races have NO physical differences besides the obvious ones you can't deny like skin color? Just because we're different doesn't mean one group is better than another.
We should accept diversity and embrace our differences and be tolerant of each other, not stick our heads in the sand and pretend that that diversity doesn't exist. That's not tolerance. That's denial.
I mean, for fuck's sake, anyone with some common sense can look at the ethnic make-up of the NFL and see that there's obviously other differences between us besides skin color.
Whatever. I'll quit egging this on. I'm not racist, despite ignorant assertions to the contrary, but I fucking HATE this politically correct Orwellian doublethink about race.
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Anonymous #3
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Race is a social construct. By no means does it hold any redeemable value in any scientific manner. That is a proven fact taught in all contemporary Biology and Anthropology courses within the U.S.
So, indeed, race exists, but only as a characteristic rather than a set of characteristics, ya dig?
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Caribbean_Commanch
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I can see both ends of the debate here. I have seen some african tribes, that have little contact with the rest of the world, who have features that could be considered european. On top of this, there aren't many american races that are exactly "pure". I've met white men & women who are as strong as they come. The same with asians. However, depending where the culture originated, they have certain survival tools that work best in that particular environment, like asian eyes for example. I agree that there is no such thing as the perfect race, we all seem to fall to the same sins, or rise with the same virtues. Believe or not, one could say that there is a purpose to political correctness. When we look at anyone's history, there have always been that group of assholes that exploited the differences of different races & cultures to further their own agendas. Sometimes so with devasting results. Some of us can embrace & appreciate the truth of these variances, but it only take one arsehole to ruin a party Again, everyone has their own preferences in women. I walk & see a variety of different relationships & am content. Its truly amazing how far we have come. The Jamaican motto is "Out of one, many people". I myself am a racial mutt, every culture that was/is a part of the british empire is there in my blood. Its nice because I can relate to just about anyone. My greater grandfather is an Irishman, another is Chinese, yet another was mixxed with East Indian, then Ashanti tribe african. From my father's side I have Nuba tribe african & Cherokee. His family were owned by Irish.
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Anonymous #6
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I'm not turned on by most African American Women....
Why is that?
Take a piece of paper and write down 15 free, random associations you have with black women. The first 15 that come to mind.
Then look at the list and ask if you are turned on by those associations. Remember, thats not something of them, thats YOUR associations. Then crosscheck them with common stereotypes about black people and black women in particular.
There's your problem.
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Tesla_Collider
feelin so fly like a g6
Registered: 12/08/10
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To anom#1-
It doesn't mean you're necessarily racist at all. It just means that they aren't your type, or, you haven't seen one yet that was your type. People are allowed to have types and well, if they aren't your type then who gives a fuck? :P
That's the way I see it.
To the guy who posted the picture of rhianna-
She's a fugly peice of garb. with a nasty whiny voice.
 Why would you even post that narrow-eyed, big foreheaded sell-out? Though admittedly Mya is attractive...None of the others you posted are remotely.
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Edited by Tesla_Collider (01/13/11 11:20 AM)
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Bender B Rodriguez
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I've noticed that a lot of white (I'm assuming your'e white) guys don't like black girls. And it seems like the darker the nastier they are to them. It's kind of weird. But then again, a lot of black girls don't like white guys. I don't think it is discriminatory in most cases, it's just from what they've been conditioned to.
I for one am white, and I like black girls a lot. Even the real dark ones. There's no race or color I'm not attracted to. If anything, I am less attracted to white women than others.
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