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 Dosile Kouki
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 Re: STB tek in graphical format.  [Re: argg]  2
#13761997 - 01/10/11 08:05 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Argg you need to learn to show a bit more respect.
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Re: STB tek in graphical format. [Re: Nature Boy] 1
#13762338 - 01/10/11 11:06 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nature Boy said:
I can't and won't always be here to monitor the joys and travails that result from the STB tek's publication.
Good. Not all of us want a psychedelic babysitter, especially for information you did not originally create. What was that bit about credit being needed where it is due...?
Keeping information about psychedelics and spiritual development to yourself is the equivalent of the early Catholic traditions wherein priests were the only ones who could read religious texts, as they were written in Latin.
NB, I've appreciated your insight and contributions, especially on this subject, but you are not the sole gatekeeper of the secrets of DMT.
I agree that the Shroomery is a great place to learn about things, but hardly feel that it is a necessary part of safely procuring DMT. Many times, the overly scientific approach members of the Shroomery take to DMT preparations negatively impacts the outcome, and the obsessive attention to amounts of x, y, etc. fails to indicate that the preparation of DMT is a spiritual experience itself, requiring careful listening and attention to unseen forces.
Some of us believe this chemical is important enough that it shouldn't remain in obscurity forever, and that the dissemination of knowledge regarding access to this chemical is necessary and imperative.
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Re: STB tek in graphical format. [Re: scienceguy]
#13762457 - 01/10/11 11:38 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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scienceguy said:
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Nature Boy said:
I can't and won't always be here to monitor the joys and travails that result from the STB tek's publication.
Good. Not all of us want a psychedelic babysitter, especially for information you did not originally create. What was that bit about credit being needed where it is due...?
Keeping information about psychedelics and spiritual development to yourself is the equivalent of the early Catholic traditions wherein priests were the only ones who could read religious texts, as they were written in Latin.
NB, I've appreciated your insight and contributions, especially on this subject, but you are not the sole gatekeeper of the secrets of DMT.
I agree that the Shroomery is a great place to learn about things, but hardly feel that it is a necessary part of safely procuring DMT. Many times, the overly scientific approach members of the Shroomery take to DMT preparations negatively impacts the outcome, and the obsessive attention to amounts of x, y, etc. fails to indicate that the preparation of DMT is a spiritual experience itself, requiring careful listening and attention to unseen forces.
Some of us believe this chemical is important enough that it shouldn't remain in obscurity forever, and that the dissemination of knowledge regarding access to this chemical is necessary and imperative.
Absolutely my thoughts.
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 SurReality
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Re: STB tek in graphical format. [Re: OutThisLife]
#13763097 - 01/10/11 02:03 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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if i were you i would just pitch the whole duplication anyway, the guide is not that great anyway. the thread is nice because it allows questioning people who have done it before if people have trouble with it (and many obviously have), but really if using a quart jar i would use 50g of bark, 50g of lye, and 750ml of water... before NBs thread people just used the ratio 1gram of MHRB-1 gram lye- 15ml of water and plenty of people had success from just using a simple ratio.
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Re: STB tek in graphical format. [Re: Dosile Kouki]
#13763316 - 01/10/11 02:55 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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DosileFlynn said:
Argg you need to learn to show a bit more respect.
how so? Its nice that crybaby boy took nice pics of a process that he read about and did a small scale all nice and pretty like but he was in the right to ask for the pics to be removed but kinda mean. I would expect to be made fun of if I drama queened out like that. crybaby brought this tek over from another site but added nice pics. you do not see he giving a ton of credit to others that went before him like in a scientific paper where sources of info are cited so seeing how he expects someone to cite his work is a little much. Op in this thread should have asked and did not but crybaby is overreacting a bit.
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Re: STB tek in graphical format. [Re: argg]
#13763429 - 01/10/11 03:16 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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NB i kinda understand your concerns, who knows what age people read the threads here, it definitely seems to attract younger people as the posts are noticeably immature at times
I'd at least edit the thread and at the beginning state my feelings about DMT in general, to at least make the karma of sharing such information weigh a bit lighter on my mind
Edited by The Chronic (01/10/11 06:06 PM)
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Re: STB tek in graphical format. [Re: scienceguy]
#13764872 - 01/10/11 08:18 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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scienceguy said, in part:
Good. Not all of us want a psychedelic babysitter...
Not trying to be one. Simply explaining the heaviness of the responsibility that I've been feeling.
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Keeping information about psychedelics and spiritual development to yourself is the equivalent of the early Catholic traditions wherein priests were the only ones who could read religious texts, as they were written in Latin.
Well, there's no evidence you can call upon that would set that as my purpose - quite the contrary in fact. The proposal as enumerated in your paragraph above would be utterly impossible - even if I were simultaneously elected President of the United States AND the Pope himself. Frankly, I don't even understand how this statement fits in to the discussion at hand.
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NB, I've appreciated your insight and contributions, especially on this subject, but you are not the sole gatekeeper of the secrets of DMT.
I'm genuinely glad that from time to time you have drawn some benefit from my posts. "Sole gatekeeper of the secrets of DMT???" THAT I am most certainly AM NOT, so I guess we're in full agreement!!! In fact I FOFL when I read that! Good one! 
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Some of us believe this chemical is important enough that it shouldn't remain in obscurity forever, and that the dissemination of knowledge regarding access to this chemical is necessary and imperative.
You DO realize that folks have been making and vaporizing freebase DMT for over 40 years in this country, right??? That's before you were born, I'll wager! I'd hardly call the knowledge obscure! Ever watch the movie "Woodstock"??? The event happened in August of 1969. There's the part in the movie where the hippie dude is giving instructions on Kundalini breathing - he mentions the rush that is supposed to ascend the spine when, with practice, the breathing exercise is properly performed. And what does he say??? I can't quote it exactly, but it is something like "What you will feel is this energy rise up your spine...kinda like when you smoke DMT..." So...knowledge of how to extract DMT has been around more than 40 years - hardly obscure and inaccessible.
The fact of the matter is that the STB tek is not the best nor the safest way to produce freebase DMT any longer. Thanks to innovative kitchen chemists, there are fully food-safe methods which are equally productive and efficient and do not employ lye. I am referring of course, to D-limonine. If there is ANY tek to be published outside of the Shroomery and other drug-specific forums, I hope that THAT will be the one (until something even better comes along - which, of course, it will eventually). At least one potential source of harm will be negated once the D-limone tek becomes the standard.
Edit: Here's a link to the movie and the DMT quote: http://souljerky.com/articles/th_aim_of_yoga_featuring_hippi.html
Best,
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Edited by Nature Boy (01/10/11 08:23 PM)
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Re: STB tek in graphical format. [Re: Nature Boy]
#13765035 - 01/10/11 08:50 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just wanted to add in that if you type in "dmt stb tek" in google the thread referenced here comes up #1.
You don't need an account to read Nature Boy's tek. I would wager thousands of people have learned how to extract DMT from the thread.
Same goes for anything in the PE forum. It's all out there. Just because people aren't posting in a thread doesn't mean people aren't reading it. And on the same token, even though there are 2500+ posts in a thread started by natureboy, there have probably been upwards of 5000+ eyes laid on those simple instructions. Who knows how many people of those people had even heard of naphtha or sodium hydroxide before looking at that thread. Who knows how many people made some shitty ass DMT and smoked lye infested dimethyltryptamine still wet with solvent.
I can grasp the concept of not wanting to be associated with something like that. At the same time, I'm glad its there and have definitely had tremendous results from it. Except I've found its an excellent fertilizer for my sea monkeys so I don't consume it.
To end, and I know its cliche, but if there is/was a "god" that created all, Can you imagine how that entity feels about the creation of humanity, with all the dumb shit people have and will always do? Psh, me, create humanity? Nah you got the wrong guy..
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i did that once
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floatingwater said:
Just wanted to add in that if you type in "dmt stb tek" in google the thread referenced here comes up #1.
Really? Jeez. 
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Re: STB tek in graphical format. [Re: Nature Boy]
#13767386 - 01/11/11 06:32 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's just the way Google works to provide the most reliable and visited content on the web.
The more the source is linked to, the more views it gets, and the popularity/reputation of the hosting site all go into determining it's order in the Google List results.
Don't want something to show up Google? Provide unreliable and sub-par content on a obscure host.
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Re: STB tek in graphical format. [Re: Nature Boy]
#13767480 - 01/11/11 07:42 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Your mind should be at ease Nature Boy, in the whole 100 pages of your thread, you've done nothing but be good to people and try to help them out. From reading your posts i can already tell you are a special sort of soul, and you shouldn't let things like this weigh on your conscience.
As people said before, these teks and methods are not secrets, they are readily available on the internet for anyone who decides to bit in a little time and effort to research the topic. If it wasnt the stb thread at #1 on the list it would be another thread from the nexus or something like that, and the end result is that people looking for what they are looking for would find it eventually.
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