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 Shins
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 Re: 9/11 Challenge: Explain the Evidence  [Re: johnm214]
#16107213 - 04/18/12 05:46 PM (1 year, 29 days ago) |
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how abouy this:
believers in the official story, how about YOU prove it?
you are the ones apparently supporting the official narrative, so the burden of proof is on you.
i just clicked on here and saw alot of "prove it," and thought its only fair that the original story side should prove it too.
*runs the heck away from this thread now*
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Re: 9/11 Challenge: Explain the Evidence [Re: Enlil]
#16107232 - 04/18/12 05:51 PM (1 year, 29 days ago) |
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Enlil said:
Of course they can lie...everyone lies...
But if you want to claim that a particular statement is a lie, you're going to need to prove that he made the statement, that it was false, and that he knew it was false when he made it....I'm still waiting for that proof.
YET you choose NOt to see it when they OBVIOUSLY lie? Whys that?
And as for you prisoner with your acaves. Do me a favour. Do you think if the military had raided caves all kitted up like that old lying torturing Rumsfeld had claimed they would have got rid of all the freakin gear?? you dont know much about propaganda do you? Thats why you are taken in by it laddie.
And you again threaten me with trollin when you allow others of your ilk get away with murder in these forums. Typical. Just how the 'real world' works actually but in micro to its macro. But it all adds up of course. I see the BIG picture you see.
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Re: 9/11 Challenge: Explain the Evidence [Re: Shins]
#16107247 - 04/18/12 05:56 PM (1 year, 29 days ago) |
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Shins said:
how abouy this:
believers in the official story, how about YOU prove it?
you are the ones apparently supporting the official narrative, so the burden of proof is on you.
i just clicked on here and saw alot of "prove it," and thought its only fair that the original story side should prove it too.
*runs the heck away from this thread now*
Many have gone to great lengths to do just what you ask, in this very thread. Perhaps you should read it from the start.
That is in spite of the fact, the burden of proof works differently than you seem to think.
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Enlil
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Re: 9/11 Challenge: Explain the Evidence [Re: Shins]
#16107901 - 04/18/12 08:33 PM (1 year, 29 days ago) |
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Shins said:
how abouy this:
believers in the official story, how about YOU prove it?
you are the ones apparently supporting the official narrative, so the burden of proof is on you.
i just clicked on here and saw alot of "prove it," and thought its only fair that the original story side should prove it too.
*runs the heck away from this thread now*
The proof is clearly laid out in this thread...Thousands of witnesses saw planes hit buildings, and then the buildings fell...
Seems like a pretty clear case...
And as cervantes said...The burden of proof is now on you to show otherwise...countless official investigations have all come to the same conclusion...
If you want to propound a theory other than the one that has been exhaustively proven and argued, then you must be the one to bring forth some evidence to back up your claim...
We have plenty of evidence that planes hit building...Plenty of evidence that the buildings were brought down by fire...plenty of evidence that the planes were hijacked...
I have yet to see one truther bring forth even a single shred of evidence that explosives were used...Yet, they are all absolutely certain of it...
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Re: 9/11 Challenge: Explain the Evidence [Re: zzripz]
#16108717 - 04/18/12 11:04 PM (1 year, 29 days ago) |
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zzripz said:
And as for you prisoner with your acaves. Do me a favour. Do you think if the military had raided caves all kitted up like that old lying torturing Rumsfeld had claimed they would have got rid of all the freakin gear?? you dont know much about propaganda do you? Thats why you are taken in by it laddie.
how about you just address the proof I'd provided
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Re: 9/11 Challenge: Explain the Evidence [Re: Prisoner#1]
#16110007 - 04/19/12 04:50 AM (1 year, 29 days ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said:
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zzripz said:
And as for you prisoner with your acaves. Do me a favour. Do you think if the military had raided caves all kitted up like that old lying torturing Rumsfeld had claimed they would have got rid of all the freakin gear?? you dont know much about propaganda do you? Thats why you are taken in by it laddie.
how about you just address the proof I'd provided
I would if I knew what proof you are talking about? You mean your pics of caves? Did you see the illustration of what Rumsfeld was lying about in the video I provided? Does that look the same as what you showed me? yes or no?
Are you claiming that the military who bombed and raided it removed all of what was shown in the illustration of underground fortresses
Here, watch again:
Are you trying to say that the invaders would have stipped everything bare apart from some sleeping bags and just shown some crude caves and tunnels...?? THAT is your proof sir?
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Re: 9/11 Challenge: Explain the Evidence [Re: zzripz] 1
#16110220 - 04/19/12 07:07 AM (1 year, 29 days ago) |
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zzripz said:
I would if I knew what proof you are talking about? You mean your pics of caves? Did you see the illustration of what Rumsfeld was lying about in the video I provided? Does that look the same as what you showed me? yes or no?
Are you claiming that the military who bombed and raided it removed all of what was shown in the illustration of underground fortresses
Are you trying to say that the invaders would have stipped everything bare apart from some sleeping bags and just shown some crude caves and tunnels...?? THAT is your proof sir?
Lol...This is typical truther denial...Even faced with pictures of actual caves where people live and store weapons, you call it a lie...
This is the same denial that allows you to believe a missile hit the pentagon despite hundreds of witnesses who saw a plane...
This is the same denial that allows you to believe explosives brought down the towers despite having absolutely no evidence to support that theory.
Any rational human that looks at those pictures can see that it is a very elaborate setup...That isn't some natural hole in the wall where some people threw down some sleeping bags. You seem to have some vision in your head of some underground concrete bunker with flourescent lighting and huge metal doors...That's james bond...Real life is often much simpler....You'd know that if you looked away from your irrational "number theory" for a few hours and looked at the world around you.
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Re: 9/11 Challenge: Explain the Evidence [Re: zzripz]
#16110351 - 04/19/12 08:19 AM (1 year, 29 days ago) |
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zzripz said:
You mean your pics of caves? Did you see the illustration of what Rumsfeld was lying about in the video I provided? Does that look the same as what you showed me? yes or no?
so you dont understand what an artists conceptual drawing is, an
illustration to give people some sort if idea, something shown by the news
station and done and published by the Times of London on 29/11/01
did you also expect everything to be all cartoonish? cartoon people and
stick figures with paper and crayon weapons fighting against real soldiers?
where's my flying car and my sex robots? I saw the concept drawing published
in popular mechanics, why arent they real, the government lied to me!!!!
thank you for alerting me to what level of thought I need to put into my argument
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Are you trying to say that the invaders would have stipped everything bare apart from some sleeping bags and just shown some crude caves and tunnels...?? THAT is your proof sir?
I'm not sure what you're expecting, mind describing if for us, wall to wall
carpet and jaccuzi tubs maybe? it's a cave, a little tooling on the
interior, there's no mention in the newspaper's concept drawing of a
nuclear hardened bunker with a satellite feed or supermodel slave girls
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Re: 9/11 Challenge: Explain the Evidence [Re: Enlil]
#16114806 - 04/20/12 04:27 AM (1 year, 28 days ago) |
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Enlil said:
Lol...This is typical truther denial...Even faced with pictures of actual caves where people live and store weapons, you call it a lie...
Oh, god FORBID one of your famous mass-murdering politicians should lie. Only WE lie. But just say---play with this if this was ME claiming these caves were really fortresses and I had shown diagrams like was shown in the Rumsfeld video. Just say WE had claimed to see the first plane go into the tower BEFORE it had been televised. I wonder how you would react then? Would you so fervently support us or attack us as liars...?
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This is the same denial that allows you to believe a missile hit the pentagon despite hundreds of witnesses who saw a plane...
lol you create your own little universe where you write your own scripts for an illusion. I have never claimed it was 'definitely' a missile that went into the Pentagon like you say it was definitely a passenger plane. And not all people who are investigating 9/11 think that either.
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This is the same denial that allows you to believe explosives brought down the towers despite having absolutely no evidence to support that theory.
You really don't know do you? You imagine you do, but you don't.
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Any rational human that looks at those pictures can see that it is a very elaborate setup...That isn't some natural hole in the wall where some people threw down some sleeping bags. You seem to have some vision in your head of some underground concrete bunker with flourescent lighting and huge metal doors...That's james bond...Real life is often much simpler....You'd know that if you looked away from your irrational "number theory" for a few hours and looked at the world around you.
Did you watch that freeking video where the underground--here it is again
do I really have to transcript it for you or what?
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Re: 9/11 Challenge: Explain the Evidence [Re: zzripz] 1
#16115045 - 04/20/12 07:15 AM (1 year, 28 days ago) |
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Here we go again...You still haven't pointed out a single statement from that video that you can prove to be false, and prove that he knew it was false at the time he said it...
When you do that, then you can call out someone's lie...until then, you're just throwing wild accusations without support...
Of course everyone lies...That isn't the question here now...YOU claimed that something specific was a lie, and you claimed that it was relevant to 9/11...Yet you won't:
1. Quote the specific statement,
2. Prove that the statement was false
3. Prove that Rumsfeld knew the statement was false when he made it...
so basically, you're just talking out of your ass...no foundation for anything you've said...
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Re: 9/11 Challenge: Explain the Evidence [Re: zzripz]
#16115098 - 04/20/12 07:50 AM (1 year, 28 days ago) |
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zzripz said:
Just say WE had claimed to see the first plane go into the tower BEFORE it had been televised. I wonder how you would react then? Would you so fervently support us or attack us as liars...?
you make far more ludicrous claims than the video you keep spamming shows,
evidence was presented that shows rummy was not lying and yet again you
insist he was lying without addressing the evidence, remember it's in the
thread title "explain the evidence"
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lol you create your own little universe where you write your own scripts for an illusion. I have never claimed it was 'definitely' a missile that went into the Pentagon like you say it was definitely a passenger plane. And not all people who are investigating 9/11 think that either.
you were already warned for trolling in this thread, why not stick to the
topic instead of resorting to this kind of crap, this would be the second
warning, one you shouldnt ignore
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Any rational human that looks at those pictures can see that it is a very elaborate setup...That isn't some natural hole in the wall where some people threw down some sleeping bags. You seem to have some vision in your head of some underground concrete bunker with flourescent lighting and huge metal doors...That's james bond...Real life is often much simpler....You'd know that if you looked away from your irrational "number theory" for a few hours and looked at the world around you.
Did you watch that freeking video where the underground--here it is again
do I really have to transcript it for you or what?
well what exactly seems to be the issue, is it that the caves dont look
exactly like the illustration, you keep insisting that rumsfeld is lying,
now instead of spamming the same video again and agian why not address
exactly what the problem you have with rumsfeld's statements are, point out
the lies you claim he's telling. dont just spam your video and insist we
watch it again while claiming he's lying, tell us what that lie is, tell us
why my pictures cant be what you claim that rumsfeld is showing when in
fact the rendering being shown by the media was created by the media
are you expecting the caves to look like a large cut open ant hill with a
400 foot giant standing guard, wouldnt that emliminate the whole stealth
thing they were aiming for in building the caves? where would they get a
400 foot man with a 300 foot gun to guard the place
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rule, there are 44 words in the english language that follow the rule. this is
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Re: 9/11 Challenge: Explain the Evidence [Re: Prisoner#1]
#16118971 - 04/21/12 04:15 AM (1 year, 27 days ago) |
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stick your warning up your arse you silly little hitler.
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Re: 9/11 Challenge: Explain the Evidence [Re: zzripz] 1
#16119216 - 04/21/12 08:10 AM (1 year, 27 days ago) |
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Oooooh, bye bye.
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Re: 9/11 Challenge: Explain the Evidence [Re: zzripz]
#16119296 - 04/21/12 09:29 AM (1 year, 27 days ago) |
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Hey zzrips, are u saying that vid he lied in? as in the caves were not that complex and there werent many and he knew this?
also to the poster that said the believers should post evidence, they have and the opposing side has done the same. Really its who you want to believe.
Nothing i've seen has been concrete though and mostly opinionated bickering/ attacks.
We all knew the towers were demolished as a False Flag attack to gain support for the war in the middle East. Not to mention we invaded Iraq for no reason.
Plus, everyone knows no plane hit the pentagon.
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Re: 9/11 Challenge: Explain the Evidence [Re: Hologram]
#16119490 - 04/21/12 11:35 AM (1 year, 26 days ago) |
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Hologram said:
We all knew the towers were demolished as a False Flag attack to gain support for the war in the middle East. Not to mention we invaded Iraq for no reason.
throughout the entirety of the clinton administration US forces were
bombing Iraq, putting troops on the ground in Iraq had nothing to do
with 9/11 and as of yet nothing that can be qualified as evidence has
been presented to suggest this was a false flag attack or that explosives
were used
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Plus, everyone knows no plane hit the pentagon.
eye witnesses that actually witnessed the event with their own eyes say it
was a plane, should I believe them or some people on the internet pushing
some hokey agenda of their own, people that were not there to witness it
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rule, there are 44 words in the english language that follow the rule. this is
the shit our education funding is paying for and these liberals want more money
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