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 What do you think of the middle east and islam 
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I was thinking that, if the middle east had the military power we have, they would declare war and kill us all immediately.
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Re: What do you think of the middle east and islam [Re: Patlal]
#13505015 - 11/18/10 07:18 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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I was thinking that, if the middle east had the military power we have, they would declare war and kill us all immediately.
There's nothing wrong with the middle east. Islam however, is a gutter religion.
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Re: What do you think of the middle east and islam [Re: Patlal]
#13505021 - 11/18/10 07:19 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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My girl friend is Palestinian and I am Jewish. She is one of the white skinned, green eyed middle easterners and I don't care if she did want to kill me. As long as she keeps those tits and that fine ass coming. 
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Re: What do you think of the middle east and islam [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#13505031 - 11/18/10 07:22 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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I was thinking that, if the middle east had the military power we have, they would declare war and kill us all immediately.
There's nothing wrong with the middle east.
What are you talking about, it's hot as fuck there.
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Re: What do you think of the middle east and islam [Re: Poid]
#13505041 - 11/18/10 07:24 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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...as if everyone in the region is of one mind.
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Re: What do you think of the middle east and islam [Re: Me_Roy]
#13505093 - 11/18/10 07:34 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: What do you think of the middle east and islam [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#13505110 - 11/18/10 07:38 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Patlal said:
I was thinking that, if the middle east had the military power we have, they would declare war and kill us all immediately.
There's nothing wrong with the middle east. Islam however, is a gutter religion.
No the middle east is the problem. The failure of the region to advance their society at all in the last 2,000 years or so is the issue. This is somewhat related to Islam, but a lot more about maintaining power and dominance over others. Islam is no more of a gutter religion than Christianity or Judaism (or any other religion) as they once employed the same practices. And there are hundreds of millions of muslims living peacefully in 1st world nations just as there are christians and jews.
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Re: What do you think of the middle east and islam [Re: Poid]
#13505127 - 11/18/10 07:42 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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There is nothing wrong with the people who live in the middle east, nothing wrong with the region beside the lack of natural resources like water. What's wrong with the Middle East is the leadership. The president never makes any decision without consulting an oracle (the Iyatola or the shah or whatever) for 'spiritual guidance' on the matter at hand. That is where things go wrong. These leaders think nothing of sacrificing human lives just to make a point. Same shit goes on in all those countries and now is spilling over into neighboring countries like Kosovo and Croatia. So the holy car-bombs are no longer just in Turkey, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, but are now found all over East Europe wherever the ingrates have migrated to. It likely wont be long before it starts happening in Canadia.
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Re: What do you think of the middle east and islam [Re: F0SS1L]
#13505191 - 11/18/10 07:54 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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I was thinking that, if the middle east had the military power we have, they would declare war and kill us all immediately.
There's nothing wrong with the middle east. Islam however, is a gutter religion.
No the middle east is the problem. The failure of the region to advance their society at all in the last 2,000 years or so is the issue. This is somewhat related to Islam, but a lot more about maintaining power and dominance over others. Islam is no more of a gutter religion than Christianity or Judaism (or any other religion) as they once employed the same practices. And there are hundreds of millions of muslims living peacefully in 1st world nations just as there are christians and jews.
The middle east is a geographical region. It can't advance anything.
To say the failure to advance their society is somewhat related to Islam, is like saying water is somewhat related to hydrogen and oxygen.
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Re: What do you think of the middle east and islam [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#13505256 - 11/18/10 08:04 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Patlal said:
I was thinking that, if the middle east had the military power we have, they would declare war and kill us all immediately.
There's nothing wrong with the middle east. Islam however, is a gutter religion.
No the middle east is the problem. The failure of the region to advance their society at all in the last 2,000 years or so is the issue. This is somewhat related to Islam, but a lot more about maintaining power and dominance over others. Islam is no more of a gutter religion than Christianity or Judaism (or any other religion) as they once employed the same practices. And there are hundreds of millions of muslims living peacefully in 1st world nations just as there are christians and jews.
The middle east is a geographical region. It can't advance anything.
To say the failure to advance their society is somewhat related to Islam, is like saying water is somewhat related to hydrogen and oxygen.
Come on you know what he means. And I agree.
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Re: What do you think of the middle east and islam [Re: Patlal]
#13505355 - 11/18/10 08:24 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Most Muslims I've met are perfectly decent people. One of my favorite classes in college was Middle Eastern Studies. We once went on a class field trip to a local mosque. It was a pretty positive experience. I currently live in a neighborhood with lots of black muslims(not Nation of Islam types, but rather African immigrants). I also work in a call center, and while I find that some Middle Eastern people can sometimes be a bit agitated, they're nowhere near as bad as rednecks.
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Re: What do you think of the middle east and islam [Re: Rainman420]
#13505368 - 11/18/10 08:25 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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The "Middle East" is a beautiful place full of beautiful people.
The area and beliefs being referring to most of you only know through television.
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Re: What do you think of the middle east and islam [Re: Rainman420]
#13505393 - 11/18/10 08:31 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Come on you know what he means. And I agree.
Then he should say what he means. And I disagree. It is far more related to Islam than any other factor.
It is a gutter religion pure and simple.
Of course, as an Atheist, I find any religion that condones/advocates violence to sway others to be a gutter religion.
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Re: What do you think of the middle east and islam [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#13505481 - 11/18/10 08:45 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Malaysia and Indonesia are rather prosperous and progressive Muslim countries. If Islam was the key ingredient in corroding society, one would expect it to that effect outside of the Middle East. Alas, the evidence does not support such a claim.
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Re: What do you think of the middle east and islam [Re: Silversoul]
#13505615 - 11/18/10 09:11 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Malaysia and Indonesia are rather prosperous and progressive Muslim countries. If Islam was the key ingredient in corroding society, one would expect it to that effect outside of the Middle East. Alas, the evidence does not support such a claim.
As the subject of the thread specifically refers to Islam and the middle east, the evidence fits quite well.
Or did you not read the subject?
Either way, you're wrong.
Muslim violence exists in Indonesia as well.
I should be surprised that you come unprepared to a debate... yet... I'm not.
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Re: What do you think of the middle east and islam [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#13505671 - 11/18/10 09:24 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Here is an interesting lady that Bill Maher had on his show awhile ago. She was raised as a Muslim but no longer is. She also has been sent death threats for voicing her opinions on Islam.
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Re: What do you think of the middle east and islam [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#13505832 - 11/18/10 10:04 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Malaysia and Indonesia are rather prosperous and progressive Muslim countries. If Islam was the key ingredient in corroding society, one would expect it to that effect outside of the Middle East. Alas, the evidence does not support such a claim.
As the subject of the thread specifically refers to Islam and the middle east, the evidence fits quite well.
Or did you not read the subject?
Either way, you're wrong.
Muslim violence exists in Indonesia as well.
I should be surprised that you come unprepared to a debate... yet... I'm not.
So apparently the fact that Christian violence exists in America means it's a backward, genocidal country. I should be surprised that your disgusting bigotry is exceeded only by your ignorance...yet...I'm not.
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Re: What do you think of the middle east and islam [Re: Patlal]
#13505958 - 11/18/10 10:28 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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If the folks in the middle east want to blow up the US because of islam, can I conclude that by your logic the US bombs countries because we're christian? Did the Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor because they are shinto or buhddist?
I don't think that anyone would (at least in the "west") disagree that there are some nasty folks in power in the middle east. But that has nothing to do with religion other than the fact the people in power use it as a tool to justify their actions.
Most of the folks there are just like us. They want to be left in peace to just live their fucking lives they way they want.
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Re: What do you think of the middle east and islam [Re: Silversoul]
#13506018 - 11/18/10 10:40 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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My father gets quick to respond to middle east conversations. If he was posting here he probably wouldnt stop talking for 2 hours  .
Guess visiting a ton of Muslim countries while working for the navy helped his opinion? Either way i love him 
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#13506072 - 11/18/10 10:54 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: What do you think of the middle east and islam [Re: Patlal]
#13506146 - 11/18/10 11:04 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't really think anything of the middle east since I don't live there.
Was I supposed to have an opinion?
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Re: What do you think of the middle east and islam [Re: Az0th]
#13506307 - 11/18/10 11:39 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't really think anything of the middle east since I don't live there.
Was I supposed to have an opinion?
Correct answer.
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Re: What do you think of the middle east and islam [Re: laserpig]
#13506720 - 11/19/10 12:50 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Threads like this make me wonder why I ever log on.
Straight up wetawded.
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Re: What do you think of the middle east and islam [Re: Me_Roy]
#13507583 - 11/19/10 05:37 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've never been there, met very few people from there, and know most of what I know about it from television: the perfect mix for forming an opinion based on pure speculation.
Im thinking about picking up a copy of The Shia Revival. I've heard it is a great book. I've read The crisis of Islam: holy war and unholy terror and thought it was quite interesting to read a little about Islam's history, and especially why they are at odds with the west.
If anyone is thinking about reading more about the middle east and especially how it relates to the political sphere, these two books would be a good place to start.
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Re: What do you think of the middle east and islam [Re: Green_T]
#13507611 - 11/19/10 05:56 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have no problems with people from that area, and Islam is as good as any religion IMO.
Extremists are the key element. Both those in caves with AK's and those that get elected in to government.
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Re: What do you think of the middle east and islam [Re: Silversoul]
#13507619 - 11/19/10 06:10 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Silversoul said:
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Silversoul said:
Malaysia and Indonesia are rather prosperous and progressive Muslim countries. If Islam was the key ingredient in corroding society, one would expect it to that effect outside of the Middle East. Alas, the evidence does not support such a claim.
As the subject of the thread specifically refers to Islam and the middle east, the evidence fits quite well.
Or did you not read the subject?
Either way, you're wrong.
Muslim violence exists in Indonesia as well.
I should be surprised that you come unprepared to a debate... yet... I'm not.
So apparently the fact that Christian violence exists in America means it's a backward, genocidal country. I should be surprised that your disgusting bigotry is exceeded only by your ignorance...yet...I'm not.
I find all religions to be stupid.
Can't admit you were wrong?
Now that's not a surprise in any way.
And of course... you glazed right over this... "Of course, as an Atheist, I find any religion that condones/advocates violence to sway others to be a gutter religion."
As intellectually honest as ever. Good for you.
Factor in that I didn't say any middle eastern country was a backward, genocidal country and you've yet again demonstrated your true colors. As a matter of fact, I said the opposite. I said... "There's nothing wrong with the middle east."
Your odd obsession with attempting to put words in my mouth still hasn't faded. How cute.
Better luck next time.
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Re: What do you think of the middle east and islam [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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It's patently obvious that your links about Indonesia don't mean what you were trying to suggest they mean. But I shouldn't expect anything other than intellectual dishonesty from you, so I'll leave it at that.
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Re: What do you think of the middle east and islam [Re: Silversoul]
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Re: What do you think of the middle east and islam [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#13509098 - 11/19/10 02:21 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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PLEASE stop posting in this thread. I have been regretting posting in here since I got the first few posts after mine. I am a Jew dating a Palestinian, everyone just needs to shut the fuck up and accept that both sides are wrong. The reason both sides keep fighting and extending this conflict is because they both think they are right and just. In reality though, both sides are wrong and immoral. When that is realized, they will be willing to reach a compromise.
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Re: What do you think of the middle east and islam [Re: TheShroomJew23]
#13509139 - 11/19/10 02:28 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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When that is realized, they will be willing to reach a compromise.
When?
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Re: What do you think of the middle east and islam [Re: Patlal]
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Re: What do you think of the middle east and islam [Re: MisterMuscaria]
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Omar Kayyam was a brown-skinned Muslim who invented the system for the modern calendar and is also the father of modern astronomy.
A Muslim scientist with original ideas?? put that in your pipe and smoke it!!
what is bass ackward is politics and extremism... 'nuff said
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Re: What do you think of the middle east and islam [Re: TheShroomJew23]
#13510318 - 11/19/10 06:06 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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PLEASE stop posting in this thread.
Nope.
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I have been regretting posting in here since I got the first few posts after mine.
A mod will lock it if you ask them to.
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I am a Jew dating a Palestinian, everyone just needs to shut the fuck up and accept that both sides are wrong. The reason both sides keep fighting and extending this conflict is because they both think they are right and just. In reality though, both sides are wrong and immoral.
Of course both sides are wrong. One side is just more wrong than the other.
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When that is realized, they will be willing to reach a compromise.
Humankind will cease to exist first. But hey... it's good to dream.
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