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 TOOL blows my mind 
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I'm sitting here at 4:48 in the morning with the headphones on just sitting back in awe of the music they have created. Nothing tickles my eardrums in nearly the same way! I'd compare TOOL to a lot of very epic bands; I wonder if there are other artists who are similarly exacting out there that I've never heard of. That would be cool!
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whats a good album? im bored and high 
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Re: TOOL blows my mind [Re: Zardos]
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I just listened to Lateralus. You really can't go wrong, it's an epic album. Thing is, they all are =)
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I'm surprised nobody's disputed my opinion of TOOL yet - half maybe cause it's early still, but half because I imagine most agree with the sentiment 
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Eh, its ok but not really my style
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The way that the music is layered with rhythm is amazing. Genius
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I'm surprised nobody's disputed my opinion of TOOL yet - half maybe cause it's early still, but half because I imagine most agree with the sentiment
i can enjoy Tool, I just don't really care for a lot of the lyrics. They are good for a youthful-angst sort of paradigm but beyond that, I don't find them all that good or profound, even the more matured stuff in later albums.
Musically, I think they do some great stuff, starting with Aenima, but not to the point where I've ever been an avid tool listener.
in short, I've never thought they were something truly phenomenal, but they do have some pretty awesome moments. I would definitely dig it if some TOOL was on but there's a ton of music I'd rather listen to. 
but, experience is relative, so... enjoy!
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tool sucks
shut up, pussy
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Seems like what I might listen to if I went crying in a corner. Luckily I never do that
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Seems like what I might listen to if I went crying in a corner. Luckily I never do that
That's so untrue. The lyrics to the song Lateralus, for example, are profoundly uplifting and the entire song is a celebration of the human experience - practically dedicated to celebrate the intensity and reality of being alive, being alive now, being able to act, being all the things that make homo sapiens so strange and wonderful a creature.
I don't see how that could be a downer!
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Seems like what I might listen to if I went to play with myself in a corner. Luckily I never do that
I'll bet you do all the time. To kim kardashian booty pics
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I'm surprised nobody's disputed my opinion of TOOL yet - half maybe cause it's early still, but half because I imagine most agree with the sentiment
i can enjoy Tool, I just don't really care for a lot of the lyrics. They are good for a youthful-angst sort of paradigm but beyond that, I don't find them all that good or profound, even the more matured stuff in later albums.
Musically, I think they do some great stuff, starting with Aenima, but not to the point where I've ever been an avid tool listener.
in short, I've never thought they were something truly phenomenal, but they do have some pretty awesome moments. I would definitely dig it if some TOOL was on but there's a ton of music I'd rather listen to.
but, experience is relative, so... enjoy!
i started to post something in this thread when it was first posted, but couldn't articulate what i was trying to say as well as i wanted to. but you just took that job away from me, i feel the exact same way about tool.
i know tons of people who are into them and i can really see why, and i definitely like their sound - it's fantastic and so cohesive. but despite of all this talent, i just can't get into them.
but for tool!
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Re: TOOL blows my mind [Re: Rhapsode]
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i can enjoy Tool, I just don't really care for a lot of the lyrics. They are good for a youthful-angst sort of paradigm but beyond that, I don't find them all that good or profound, even the more matured stuff in later albums.
Musically, I think they do some great stuff, starting with Aenima, but not to the point where I've ever been an avid tool listener.
in short, I've never thought they were something truly phenomenal, but they do have some pretty awesome moments. I would definitely dig it if some TOOL was on but there's a ton of music I'd rather listen to.
but, experience is relative, so... enjoy!
i started to post something in this thread when it was first posted, but couldn't articulate what i was trying to say as well as i wanted to. but you just took that job away from me, i feel the exact same way about tool.
i know tons of people who are into them and i can really see why, and i definitely like their sound - it's fantastic and so cohesive. but despite of all this talent, i just can't get into them.
but for tool!
I've known a number of people who feel that way about TOOL but love A Perfect Circle, which I find kind of interesting.
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i haven't heard much of their stuff and since i need to be up in four hours, i should probably forgo the music hunt for now and pass out.
but i'll give their stuff a listen, i've been told i should check them out before. any recommendations?
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Seems like what I might listen to if I went crying in a corner. Luckily I never do that
That's so untrue. The lyrics to the song Lateralus, for example, are profoundly uplifting and the entire song is a celebration of the human experience - practically dedicated to celebrate the intensity and reality of being alive, being alive now, being able to act, being all the things that make homo sapiens so strange and wonderful a creature.
I don't see how that could be a downer!
Take it whatever way you want but I've always found it hard to listen to most lyrics and even then I've a hard time decyphering them
As such,I listen to the instruments and pay attention to whatever melody. It just seems a bit dark.Quote:
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Seems like what I might listen to if I went to play with myself in a corner. Luckily I never do that
I'll bet you do all the time. To kim kardashian booty pics
 still sore over that?
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And now I'm listening to Billy Joel. Talk about a radical mood change, switching from TOOL 
I must say I am a big fan of the programs that give me all kinds of free music and predict what I"m gonna like based on my ratings that run on my phone! I don't have to bother with an iPod anymore.
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pandora for the motherfuckin' WIN
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Re: TOOL blows my mind [Re: Rhapsode]
#13437396 - 11/05/10 05:59 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ever use youtube to mp3 converter?
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dont worry spiral im with you, tool is the bomb. their music has so much substance and is really just an eargasm.
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Not a fan. Way too depressing for me. Once in awhile they are cool but couldn't sit through a full album.
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Re: TOOL blows my mind [Re: Rocker232]
#13437721 - 11/05/10 10:44 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Tool rocks. Aenema was their high point IMO though. Lateralus has its moments.
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Re: TOOL blows my mind [Re: Drchemist]
#13437731 - 11/05/10 10:51 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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10,000 days was disappointing compared to lateralus but is still a great album.
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One song- H. Can you feel it coming over like a storm again?
I like certain APC songs more myself.
Maynard may be a genius, but i need lyrics i can understand. He babbles like Jim Morrison did.
Danny Lohners 3 Libras remix is great ambient trip music.
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If someone had a copy of the CD aMotion, i would love it. I didnt realize that where the 3 Libras remix was from.
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Tool reminds me of Rush in some ways. They're both very layered and technical, with lots of complex rhythms and analytical lyrics. I think Rush has a greater variety in their style, though I like Tool as well.
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One song- H. Can you feel it coming over like a storm again?
I like certain APC songs more myself.
Maynard may be a genius, but i need lyrics i can understand. He babbles like Jim Morrison did.
Danny Lohners 3 Libras remix is great ambient trip music.
Morrison is leagues ahead of Maynard. I never have an issue understanding his voice
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i haven't heard much of their stuff and since i need to be up in four hours, i should probably forgo the music hunt for now and pass out.
but i'll give their stuff a listen, i've been told i should check them out before. any recommendations?
Here's a list of their best songs from all albums (IMO):
46&2
Stinkfist
Aenemia
Prison Sex
H
Opiate
Parabol/Parabola
The Patient
Lateralus
Jerk-Off
Flood
They have a lot of great songs actually, but those are some that stand out a little more than others.
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Too depressing? That's silly. Tool is hardly depressing.
They are quite incredible, one of the best live shows i've ever seen.
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I've got some live recordings of them somewhere on my comp where they totally re-do all their songs and play them differently. They are true artists.
Also when you hear them play live they sound the same as they do on cd - shows that they are actually playing the music and not just using sound engineers and studio effects to create fake music.
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ive never given tool a chance really
i used to be a fan of the mars volta, which i guess is kinda epic like tool is aparently. not so much anymore, i still liek omar's solo stuff/side thangs tho
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Re: TOOL blows my mind [Re: Envix]
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Tool & TMV are amazing...I'd go so far as to say Tool is our modern day King Crimson & TMV (The Mars Volta) our Zeppelin. I know i'll get a lot of bitchin about it, but listen to the music and tell me I'm wrong.
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amputechture was the first and last tmv album i really liked. then i got into the albums before that. but the albums after that.. meh
krimson king is so i should like tool. wut songs are good ones?
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TOOL is the shit. I can't fucking wait to drop some L and listen to their whole new album (they're in the studio right now).
Not only have many of their songs impacted my life in their own way; but Adam Jones has been a big influence on my guitar playing. Their music is just so expressive and epic to me. Not to mention their live sound is fucking flawless and they change up each song they play to make it even more badass.
Learn to play Aenema on guitar and tell me it doesn't bring about the same emotions in you that the lyrics are invoking.
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Re: TOOL blows my mind [Re: NlightNme]
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i fell in love with tool while tripping mushrooms on my 17th birthday.
ive seen em twice live.
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Seems like what I might listen to if I went crying in a corner. Luckily I never do that
Tool is progressive metal... not even close to emo. 
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Seems like what I might listen to if I went crying in a corner. Luckily I never do that
Tool is progressive metal... not even close to emo.
Way to stereotype. I remember this hipster skinny jean ironic t-shirt kid trying to tell me Tool was for emo kids once because he sees kids with Tool hoodies on while shopping at Hot Topic.
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Quote:
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amputechture was the first and last tmv album i really liked. then i got into the albums before that. but the albums after that.. meh
krimson king is so i should like tool. wut songs are good ones?
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Seems like what I might listen to if I went crying in a corner. Luckily I never do that
Tool is progressive metal... not even close to emo.
I think he was trying to make a comeback at me. Because I was making fun of him for liking Kim Kardashian's booty. Off topic, that's a big booty!
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Tool is not the best band in the world, it is merely the beginning of the road to the legends:
ISIS
King Crimson
Tortoise
Failure
Pelican
Red SParowes
Prisma
Karnivool
Buckethead (though hes always been rocken it harder and faster than tool could ever manage, 29+ albums? yes please, music doesn't need to be thought about, it needs to be played, tool having only 5 albums with salival not included is pretty weak after over 20 years :/ Buckethead shows us you don't need to take 5 year hiatuses to sell wine to figure out what your next album is gonna be about)
who else, I'mma continue rambling here
Talk Talk
Cult of Luna
Jesu
Zozobra
Old Man Gloom
Cave In
Talking Heads
Sepultura
AYREON (if you don't know ayreon you are in for a treat, that is if you conjure the will to say to yourself there are better bands than Tool, which, Ayreon certainly is)
Between the Buried and Me
Canvas Solaris
Irepress
PRIMUS, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Deftones
Desert Sessions
Kyuss (come on, 50 Million Year Trip? paalease)
ELOY (a must for any fan of pink floyd)
Electric wizard
FloaterHawkwind
Helios Creed <-----DEEP BLUE VACCUM CLEANER son
Intronaut
Rwake
IQ
Iron Butterfly
JOHN PAUL fuckin JONES
Lotus (of course)
Mobios Project
Modest Mouse
IN FLAMES
Mr. Bungle
MuDvAyNe (at least LD 50 and end of all things, classics)
NEKTAR (<-----RECYCLED listen to one of the songs from that album and you will be spellbound
Omar A. Rodriguez
Om
Oysterhead
Paradise Lost
police
PURE REASON REVOLUTION
I could go on but I got stuff to do, just, there are other bands more edifying than tool could ever be, ya can't listen to the same over and over.
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(1) Black,
(1) then,
(2) white are,
(3) all I see,
(5) in my infancy,
(8) red and yellow then came to be,
(5) reaching out to me,
(3) lets me see.
(2) There is,
(1) so,
(1) much,
(2) more and
(3) beckons me,
(5) to look through to these,
(8) infinite possibilities.
(13) As below so above and beyond I imagine,
(8) drawn beyond the lines of reason.
(5) Push the envelope.
(3) Watch it bend.
awesomeness right there.
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secret chiefs 3
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(1) Black,
(1) then,
(2) white are,
(3) all I see,
(5) in my infancy,
(8) red and yellow then came to be,
(5) reaching out to me,
(3) lets me see.
(2) There is,
(1) so,
(1) much,
(2) more and
(3) beckons me,
(5) to look through to these,
(8) infinite possibilities.
(13) As below so above and beyond I imagine,
(8) drawn beyond the lines of reason.
(5) Push the envelope.
(3) Watch it bend.
awesomeness right there.
I fucking love this about lateralus. Only TOOL would properly use the fibonacci sequence in a song and have it mesh perfectly with their sound and lyrics. Spiral out... Keep... Going:
And about TOOL being for the emo:
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Tool is not the best band in the world, it is merely the beginning of the road to the legends:
BLAH BLAH BLAH
I could go on but I got stuff to do, just, there are other bands more edifying than tool could ever be, ya can't listen to the same over and over.
Yeah, that's great and all, but a lot of those aren't even close to the same genre. So I'm not really sure how your post is related to the thread.
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TOOL blows my mind
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If someone had a copy of the CD aMotion, i would love it. I didnt realize that where the 3 Libras remix was from.
Have a nice day.
My favorite song from that album is Judith (Renholder Mix).
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Blockman Woudan said:
Tool is not the best band in the world, it is merely the beginning of the road to the legends:
ISIS
King Crimson**
Tortoise
Failure
Pelican
Red SParowes
Prisma
Karnivool
Buckethead (though hes always been rocken it harder and faster than tool could ever manage, 29+ albums? yes please, music doesn't need to be thought about, it needs to be played, tool having only 5 albums with salival not included is pretty weak after over 20 years :/ Buckethead shows us you don't need to take 5 year hiatuses to sell wine to figure out what your next album is gonna be about)
who else, I'mma continue rambling here
Talk Talk
Cult of Luna
Jesu
Zozobra
Old Man Gloom
Cave In
Talking Heads**
Sepultura*****
AYREON (if you don't know ayreon you are in for a treat, that is if you conjure the will to say to yourself there are better bands than Tool, which, Ayreon certainly is)
Between the Buried and Me
Canvas Solaris
Irepress
PRIMUS, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO*******************
Deftones**
Desert Sessions
Kyuss (come on, 50 Million Year Trip? paalease)*
ELOY (a must for any fan of pink floyd)
Electric wizard*
FloaterHawkwind
Helios Creed <-----DEEP BLUE VACCUM CLEANER son
Intronaut
Rwake
IQ
Iron Butterfly
JOHN PAUL fuckin JONES
Lotus (of course)
Mobios Project
Modest Mouse***************
IN FLAMES**
Mr. Bungle** (also fantomas and faith no more)
MuDvAyNe (at least LD 50 and end of all things, classics)**********
NEKTAR (<-----RECYCLED listen to one of the songs from that album and you will be spellbound
Omar A. Rodriguez (& Cedric Bixler Zavala) *************
Om***************
Oysterhead
Paradise Lost
police
PURE REASON REVOLUTION
I could go on but I got stuff to do, just, there are other bands more edifying than tool could ever be, ya can't listen to the same over and over.
Awesome ridiculously long absurdly diverse list.
To add:
Boredoms (V∞REDOMS)
Boris
Merzbow
Damo Suzuki (Omar Rodriguez Lopez & Damo Suzuki - Please Heat This Eventually =  )
Can ( )
Sonic Youth
Edan
Massive Attack
Gorillaz
The Velvet Underground
Jefferson mother fucking Airplane (After Bathing At Baxter's, Bark, Volunteers)
SUNN O)))
Built To Spill
Shadows Fall (Of One Blood to War Within)
Marilyn Manson And Everything He's Ever Been Involved With (except that lady gaga remix, he's too old to make good dance music now)
311
Animal Collective
Beck
David Bowie
DoMakeSayThink
Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Sigur Ros
Orbit Service
Meshuggah
Madlib
Shulman
Tobacco/Black Moth Super Rainbow
Ministry
Sublime (Robbin' The Hood > *)
I *'d the ones on yours I would've listed if you didn't already do it.
As far as TOOL being the beginning of the road, I would agree that they are the ones that either re-shaped or opened me up toward all of my musical preferences after 14.
Which is to say that, from listening to TOOL I grew an incredibly long attention span for music and a desire for overly self indulgent artistic tangents.
This thread is now about listing every band you can think of that is really really cool
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Samurai Drifter
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Good to see someone else appreciates Merzbow. Listening to his music normally is an experience; when you're high it feels like your brain is being shredded... in a good way.
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PsilocybinMike
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b0red5tiff said:
TOOL blows my mind
I had sexual relations with your mother, sister, and or wife/significant other.
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I'm a fan. I rarely meet anyone else that likes them though. They seem to have a pretty small fan-base. I think they make some pretty badass noises.
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LloydChristmas
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...Back to Tool-like bands...
Porcupine Tree-Blackest Eyes
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Danny Carey is a machine thats all I've got to say
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dude, back in the 90s, i was so into Aenima. there was this station Krock in my hometown that played all that good stuff, and i'd listen to that while delivering newspapers in the rain like everyday.
i love aenima, that song is so great. 46&2 is too.
lateralus came out while i was in college, and i had fallen outta the rock scene then. at that point, i was listening to a lot of rave music, experimental electronic music, and world music. i mean i listened to lateralus, but it didn't catch me the way aenima did.
when electronic music started to dull, i started listening to a lot of rock again. i went back to lateralus and 10000 days, but i still dun think they are as good as aenima.
another band from the 90s at least that not many people talk about is HUM. not sure, but i think they onli had one album, "you'd prefer to be an astronaut". that album sounds really psychedelic to me... they got famous for their song "stars", which is a great song but the rest of the album is great as well.
i like this song the best
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LloydChristmas said:
...Back to Tool-like bands...
Porcupine Tree-Blackest Eyes
Fuck yeah, Porcupine Tree! 
I recommend checking out their album Voyage 34. Very psychedelic.
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46and2 all fuckin day.
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Tool sucks almoast as bad as the dead does
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Most nights I can't sleep without putting on some tool! 
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Paw_Paw said:
Tool sucks almoast as bad as the dead does
You listen to metallica.
Music illiterate moron.
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Re: TOOL blows my mind [Re: stimpson]
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stimpson said:
dude, back in the 90s, i was so into Aenima. there was this station Krock in my hometown that played all that good stuff, and i'd listen to that while delivering newspapers in the rain like everyday.
i love aenima, that song is so great. 46&2 is too.
lateralus came out while i was in college, and i had fallen outta the rock scene then. at that point, i was listening to a lot of rave music, experimental electronic music, and world music. i mean i listened to lateralus, but it didn't catch me the way aenima did.
when electronic music started to dull, i started listening to a lot of rock again. i went back to lateralus and 10000 days, but i still dun think they are as good as aenima.
another band from the 90s at least that not many people talk about is HUM. not sure, but i think they onli had one album, "you'd prefer to be an astronaut". that album sounds really psychedelic to me... they got famous for their song "stars", which is a great song but the rest of the album is great as well.
i like this song the best
Have you ever listened to the albums Opiate and Undertow? Those pre-date aenemia and are pretty fucking great albums.
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stimpson
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yeh i have undertow. with the pig on the cover, or inside the cover or something... sober is on that cd. yeh.
i dun have opiate but i've heard it.
still like aenima the best.
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Re: TOOL blows my mind [Re: stimpson]
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sober is a great song, ive got an awesome 10 minute live rework of the song
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Technically Opiate is an EP I guess not an album. But it's a really raw sounding Tool, back in the "angry" phase of maynard.
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Re: TOOL blows my mind [Re: stimpson]
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mmmm.... megan fox. i'd drink her bath water.
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DosileFlynn said:
I've got some live recordings of them somewhere on my comp where they totally re-do all their songs and play them differently. They are true artists.
Also when you hear them play live they sound the same as they do on cd - shows that they are actually playing the music and not just using sound engineers and studio effects to create fake music.
Quote:
DosileFlynn said:
sober is a great song, ive got an awesome 10 minute live rework of the song
Can I see these please?
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Re: TOOL blows my mind [Re: Drchemist]
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actually i got confused its a rework of 'push it', having bit of trouble finding the album though i think it was a concert from perth or soemthing.
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Re: TOOL blows my mind [Re: NlightNme]
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NlightNme said:
Quote:
Hakim0777 said:
(1) Black,
(1) then,
(2) white are,
(3) all I see,
(5) in my infancy,
(8) red and yellow then came to be,
(5) reaching out to me,
(3) lets me see.
(2) There is,
(1) so,
(1) much,
(2) more and
(3) beckons me,
(5) to look through to these,
(8) infinite possibilities.
(13) As below so above and beyond I imagine,
(8) drawn beyond the lines of reason.
(5) Push the envelope.
(3) Watch it bend.
awesomeness right there.
I fucking love this about lateralus. Only TOOL would properly use the fibonacci sequence in a song and have it mesh perfectly with their sound and lyrics. Spiral out... Keep... Going:
Except that Marilyn Manson did it first, by roughly a year I might add.
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PsilocybinMike
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DosileFlynn said:
actually i got confused its a rework of 'push it', having bit of trouble finding the album though i think it was a concert from perth or soemthing.
I think you're referring to the version off Salival? I like it, it's like a different song, I like both versions though.
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I've tripped on Acid to all the albums...Undertow is my favorite. I've seen them live three or four times tripping on acid. I love tool but damn I see "evil" visuals when I listen to them probably because they follow the occult. My favorite songs are You lied and Push it from the Salival CD
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Re: TOOL blows my mind [Re: rezen]
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follow the occult? wtf is that? maynard is an atheist...
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Re: TOOL blows my mind [Re: Atheist]
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Yah well they are interested in it...apply it to their music ect I've seen nothing but evil things listening to tool that is not to say some of their songs are not positive but Trip real hard and listen to songs like Ticks and Leeches and you'll see what I mean
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Atheist
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if you enjoy tool check out Porcupine Tree
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Re: TOOL blows my mind [Re: Atheist]
#13443342 - 11/06/10 02:38 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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tool is fuckin awesome!!!! so relaxing to me..
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Re: TOOL blows my mind [Re: Atheist]
#13443349 - 11/06/10 02:40 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Atheist said:
follow the occult? wtf is that? maynard is an atheist...
occultism is not a religion.
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Quote:
DosileFlynn said:
actually i got confused its a rework of 'push it', having bit of trouble finding the album though i think it was a concert from perth or soemthing.
this is a great song
i used to be a massive 'tool head' (have all their albums) but now i prefer listenin to their 'less intense' songs...
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Re: TOOL blows my mind [Re: xyz789]
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ticks and leeches...
that drumming is... supernatural
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b0red5tiff
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Quote:
b0red5tiff said:
TOOL blows my mind
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Re: TOOL blows my mind [Re: xyz789]
#13444241 - 11/06/10 06:27 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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dr_gonz said:
You and Maynard both enjoy cross dressing
Didnt know ol bored there still posted.
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Re: TOOL blows my mind [Re: xyz789]
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If anyone is interested this is an album by Children Of The Anachronistic Dynasty, Maynard's band before tool. It's not that great but it has it's moments.
And I believe this thread is incomplete without this video.
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There, now you can take credit for my post.
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Re: TOOL blows my mind [Re: xyz789]
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Evil, dark, supernatural, whatever you wanna call it...thats what it is I mean compared to tripping to something like the Grateful dead there is a massive difference...and yes I know danny is interested in the occult but so is most of the band including Maynard. I love the creativity that tool represents but looking back I can't help but question their message to people. I'll always be a fan but lets just say I don't take their music to heart like I used to.
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I fucking love this about lateralus. Only TOOL would properly use the fibonacci sequence in a song and have it mesh perfectly with their sound and lyrics. Spiral out... Keep... Going:
Except that Marilyn Manson did it first, by roughly a year I might add.
Elaborate. Are you saying they did this on Holywood? Where?
Here's the main thing about TOOL that is so great if you ask me, and I was made keenly aware of this yet again on their most recent stadium tour: Almost all of their material, even the songs that get radio play, have odd, complex rhythmic structures yet they still groove very effectively. You don't get that with many other bands, not even most of the other bands mentioned in this thread. Not even other bands that are considered "prog". Very few bands have such a consistently unique and effective rhythmic thing happening. That's why they are so successful(even though most folks don't think about the music consciously in those terms). And because they have one of the best rock singers in history, a guitar player with restraint and exceedingly artful tone and a bass player with synesthesia.
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"... and a bass player with synesthesia" should be the icing on the cake, if you ask me. Their band has the best lineup of musicians I've even seen. Danny Carey is better than the drummer from Rush, and uses better, more complex rhythms that flow better. Adam Jones is extremely creative, and doesn't overpower the shit out of the music with wailing power chords. Don't forget maynard, either.
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Re: TOOL blows my mind [Re: Viveka]
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Viveka said:
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I fucking love this about lateralus. Only TOOL would properly use the fibonacci sequence in a song and have it mesh perfectly with their sound and lyrics. Spiral out... Keep... Going:
Except that Marilyn Manson did it first, by roughly a year I might add.
Elaborate. Are you saying they did this on Holywood? Where?
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Tools cool but everything gets old after toooooo much listening which is exactly what I did with tool in HS
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Re: TOOL blows my mind [Re: xyz789]
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dr_gonz said:
Quote:
rezen said:
Evil, dark, supernatural, whatever you wanna call it...thats what it is I mean compared to tripping to something like the Grateful dead there is a massive difference...and yes I know danny is interested in the occult but so is most of the band including Maynard. I love the creativity that tool represents but looking back I can't help but question their message to people. I'll always be a fan but lets just say I don't take their music to heart like I used to.
What exactly is "their message" ?
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Black then white are all I see in my infancy.
red and yellow then came to be, reaching out to me.
lets me see.
As below, so above and beyond, I imagine
drawn beyond the lines of reason.
Push the envelope. Watch it bend.
Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind.
Withering my intuition, missing opportunities and I must
Feed my will to feel my moment drawing way outside the lines.
Black then white are all I see in my infancy.
red and yellow then came to be, reaching out to me.
lets me see there is so much more
and beckons me to look through to these infinite possibilities.
As below, so above and beyond, I imagine
drawn outside the lines of reason.
Push the envelope. Watch it bend.
Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind.
Withering my intuition leaving all these opportunities behind.
Feed my will to feel this moment urging me to cross the line.
Reaching out to embrace the random.
Reaching out to embrace whatever may come.
I embrace my desire to
feel the rhythm, to feel connected
enough to step aside and weep like a widow
to feel inspired, to fathom the power,
to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain,
to swing on the spiral
of our divinity and still be a human.
With my feet upon the ground I lose myself
between the sounds and open wide to suck it in,
I feel it move across my skin.
I'm reaching up and reaching out,
I'm reaching for the random or what ever will bewilder me.
And following our will and wind we may just go where no one's been.
We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no one's been.
Spiral out. Keep going, going...
-Lateralus
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I have come curiously close to the end, down
Beneath my self-indulgent pitiful hole,
Defeated, I concede and
Move closer
I may find comfort here
I may find peace within the emptiness
How pitiful
It's calling me...
And in my darkest moment, fetal and weeping
The moon tells me a secret - my confidant
As full and bright as I am
This light is not my own and
A million light reflections pass over me
Its source is bright and endless
She resuscitates the hopeless
Without her, we are lifeless satellites drifting
And as I pull my head out I am without one doubt
Don't wanna be down here feeding my narcissism.
I must crucify the ego before it's far too late
I pray the light lifts me out
Before I pine away.
So crucify the ego, before it's far too late
To leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical,
And you will come to find that we are all one mind
Capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable.
Just let the light touch you
And let the words spill through
And let them pass right through
Bringing out our hope and reason ...
before we pine away.
-Reflection
The last part sums it up pretty well, but all of that.
I guess on the earlier albums there was a little more about how stupid people deserve to die, but whatever.
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Re: TOOL blows my mind [Re: Drchemist]
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hey TOOL FANS!
If I was going to take a high dose mushroom trip...what TOOL album would you recommend?
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Re: TOOL blows my mind [Re: MOTH]
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Lateralus most def. for a journey of feelings.
But really any album, Opiate is a little short, Undertow and Opiate are both, I'd say, more "raw," than their later albums.
I'd also say that they were more "intense" in their earlier albums, and more complex and "spiritual" in their later albums.
I'd personally listen to 10000 days. Wings for Marie has no words to describe it.
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Re: TOOL blows my mind [Re: MOTH]
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In this exact order:
Pushit (Live from Salival)
Third Eye (either ÆNIMA or Salival works fine)
Lateralus (SKIP FAAIP DE OIAD THOUGH)
End with whatever version of Third Eye you didn't start with
From there I'd move on to psytrance or psychill or acid rock or vooredoms depending on mood/what kind of weed I'm smoking but that's just me. 10,000 is great and all but I've only ever enjoyed it on dissociatives. It's too "songy" for me; besides wings/days, the album has too many songs that are like *about the vocals* for me to trip to. Lateralus has more triple-layered vocals with a cadence that flows more with the melody.
That's all personal though.
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Re: TOOL blows my mind [Re: MOTH]
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lateralus...
those 2 songs quoted above are
and 'disposition' in between them,
is nice as well...
much more chilled.
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I used to hate Tool with a passion, but they won me over one day. I can't say I'm really sure how.
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Re: TOOL blows my mind [Re: quinn]
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Okay, I'm gonna try Lateralus on my next big shroom trip! 
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good luck! 
let us know how it goes...
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Re: TOOL blows my mind [Re: MOTH]
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Come to think of it, it was listening to Lateralus on shrooms that made me like Tool.
Seriously. Do it.
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i just remembered...
has anyone heard those songs LAMC & Maynards Dick?
i think from Salival...
it came on my ipod shuffle, for the first time, when i was tripping in amsterdam...
i had no idea what was going on...
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i'm not a total tool nut, but salival transported me to other worlds.
I used to do dxm alot and would listen to a couple songs from salvial on repeat for hours.
The main circut is pushit and third eye. those two got me so fucking high it was sickening. In all the years i've listened to those two songs (and i've been listening to third eye since i was in middle school) i've never been able to put into words what they do to me, where they bring me.
This year i did dxm a couple times again. Fuckin i put on third eye once and i was back in the exact same place. Its always the same and yet the challenge it presents to me its still so mysterious i just straight up lose my mind trying to comprehend it (the circuit, not just third eye, though both songs do that individually also).
The full circut for me is:
No quarter -> you lied -> merkaba -> pushit -> third eye.
Never liked listening to them on psychedelics, think their albums are decent but wasn't really incredibly into them, but like i said, those two circuts got me sooooooooo fucking high while on dxm.
if i get fully into the main circut during third eye i realize something about living infinite times and i become a diamond inside a waterfall of sorts, but nothing like exsists on earth. I completely am outside my life and self. if there is such thing as reincarnation following the circut brings me to my soul's travel center, where i watch all of my selves come and go into their different places and times... and i am not any of those things...
Then i wake up and come back and forget and forget and forget till the i repeat the circut, each time a little more conscious and its a fucking puzzle!!!! each time i'm a little more conscious and i penetrate deeper in the heart of the mystery.
Thats third eye... pushit does something completely different to me that prepares me for third eye, and nourishes and heals me after it.
repeat repeat repeat repeat repeat repeat repeat repeat repeat repeat repeat.
The full circut is to get me deep enough so i can enter the main circut. No quarter and you lied remind me of the ills that make it necessary to leave the earth. Merkaba is the break, the wake up and fall down. Attention paid is equal the gift received.
And always fucking timothy leary telling me to think for myself. HOW DO I THINK FOR MYSELF WHEN YOU"RE TELLING ME TO DO IT!?!?! I'M TRYING SO HARD TO THINK FOR MYSELF AND NOT DO AS YOU SAY AND ITS WORKING.
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A child's rhyme stuck in my head.
It said that life is but a dream.
I've spent so many years in question
to find I've known this all along.
whoa! super looooong tool post. Also mildly entertaining because i sound mildly nutty. For real i could write pages and pages of shit about my experience with those two songs.
edit: when i get fully into it time goes so slow. and of course the songs keeps repeating night after night after night, So i have ALOT of thoughts about every tiny detail.
the timothy leary line is an easy one to remember. Yeah its not so hard to accept when an authority tells you to ignore authority. BUT IN REAL TIME!? It hits you with the first riddle right off the back. Again, easy to rationalize and logically sort your way through, but watching your thoughts in real time its a bit of zen koan. Its just the warm up. Respecting someone and listening to what they say telling you not to listen to what they say, and being thankful for it, and wanting to do as they say and not do as they say, because you respect them... but you want the experience of not doing as the authority says. Are you supposed to stand up and go put on your tie and go to work while listening to that? Wouldn't that be doing what he says about not doing what he says!? So is doing what he says not doing what he says which is doing what he says which is not doing what he says?
remember when you thought that? you had the same thought last time, you had all these same thoughts last time. Just pick up where you left off. And following the chain this thought looks just like that thought looks just like this thought. That time is just like this time. You remember that you remember. You remember remember remembering, and the voice is still coming at you, just like the first time, you have to decide RIGHT NOW. always right now.
And while i'm thinking all this I'm shrinking to nothing, i'm growing to everything. I can hear and think perfectly. If i'm deep in the circut i start out in something like space. Then as i am shrinking or growing or twisting, spiraling off into the distance i enter a space where everything is flashing. Some color like gold but not really. The gold and whites of nerves Firing free from external stimulus, following the rythm and hum of the little dxm molocules buzzing around fucking everything up. Little sharp squiggles everywhere. The squiggles are really tiny... Its like the wind... cutting through me the little squiggles touching all MY molocules and then just going through. like the wind.
And this keeps repeating and repeating and repeating and time is going really slow and you do this night after night after night after night.
just warming up. (i can't believe eyedea is dead)
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Ur fuckin crazy brah....oh yeah once during pushit I was trippin so hard I felt a push.
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^^^yes. they are good songs. and u r crazy...
i love pushit..
& the way they do no quater.
& merkamba... so weird
yeh MOTH i dunno maybe consider Salival...
its hard to pick.
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Re: TOOL blows my mind [Re: quinn]
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^^^yes. they are good songs. and u r crazy...
i love pushit..
& the way they do no quater.
& merkamba... so weird
yeh MOTH i dunno maybe consider Salival...
its hard to pick.
I've heard Lateralus a lot of times sober, but NEVER Salival...I tend to go with stuff I haven't heard before while tripping.
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Re: TOOL blows my mind [Re: MOTH]
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cool.
i think salival is actually perfect.
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Re: TOOL blows my mind [Re: MOTH]
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Listen to A Perfect Circle - Rose during your peak 
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Re: TOOL blows my mind [Re: rezen]
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Listen to A Perfect Circle - Rose during your peak
Yeah...one time I took 4 g's of shrooms...and my trip partner put on A Perfect Circle, which I had never heard before...and I had such an amazing trip on that, to the point where if I hear it today, I still get vivid flashbacks.
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Re: TOOL blows my mind [Re: MOTH]
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Cool, I highly recommend the Amotion DvD while tripping to anyone who hasn't seen it yet
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Kimbo, what exactly are you using the word "circuit" to mean in that whole thing?
I feel like if I knew that I'd know what you were talking about.
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personally my 2 favorites (if i HAD to be forced to pick favorites, i like a lot of their songs a lot [and it would have to be these 2 since they are MADE for each other]) would be:
Lost Keys (Blame Hoffman) => Rosetta Stoned
i remember loving the songs originally, but usually had my ipod on shuffle. one day my friend suggested i listen to the albums in the intended order, so i did so while tripping once.
and Rosetta Stoned being a response to Lost Keys.... just like.... filled a void or something. it felt so right. haha.
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DXM trances are usually like dreams. If you want to call them holes, there are many holes you can go into to get to the deeper dreams. really deep holes lead to really deep places. It feels just like falling down a hole or falling down a tunnel. You suddenly just have to lay down and close your eyes. Some people see them.
Then you have to stay in the dream/trance. To stay in the dream, the dream has to keep going forward, it has to remain consistent, and it has to be hypnotic, if its too rough you'll just jump and stumble around and maybe go puke.
When i say circut, i mean i find a space where i can let myself "fall" into a deep trance. A pace i'm comfortable with, a direction i'm comfortable with and a destination i'm comfortable with.
Once i let myself fall into it, what makes it a circut is those two songs can keep feeding into themselves, like i said pushit heals me after third eye and gets me ready to go really deep into it. Just listening to pushit it or some or songs (which i would do too) The energy doesn't ramp, it meanders. Just listening to straight stimulating overload stuff one after another and personally my brain just stops giving a shit and gets tired and takes me back out.
Also for me, but maybe not objectively, the two songs are part of a continuous narrative. You see in my updated post up there how i go on and on with that stupid logic thing? For me pushit and third eye do the same thing for me, one just leads me to the other leads me to the other. I would imagine this is pretty personal.
I call it a circut because i can stay in a really deep state for a long time just repeating, until the drug wears off or until i black out and wake up, often losing interest.
I would black out all the time following thoughts. Each time i would remain conscious a little bit longer. When seconds are taking minutes and you have days of time to just be totally out of your head with all the memories of every other time you were like this its easy to get lost... and then i would just wake up.
by blacking out i mean it could just be for a quarter second. Just some break in consciousness and i'm no longer in such a deep state. Usually i'd be too shaken to pursue it again that night. But each night I'd stay longer and time would stretch further... till i was at places outside of time... where i've always been, just like last time... i remember this.... chasing a trail of smoke and reason as the song says...
so yeah, tool has certainly blown my mind as recently as this year. I use alot of their tracks like ions or rosetta stoned when i do sound collages.
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just listened to die eier von satan that shits crazy. 
i think i read once that the lyrics are ingredients to make hash brownies
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Quote:
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personally my 2 favorites (if i HAD to be forced to pick favorites, i like a lot of their songs a lot [and it would have to be these 2 since they are MADE for each other]) would be:
Lost Keys (Blame Hoffman) => Rosetta Stoned
i remember loving the songs originally, but usually had my ipod on shuffle. one day my friend suggested i listen to the albums in the intended order, so i did so while tripping once.
and Rosetta Stoned being a response to Lost Keys.... just like.... filled a void or something. it felt so right. haha.
I feel the same way about parabol and parabola. these songs got me tripping while i was sober, if you know what I mean.
TOOL FTW!
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Me and my friends were just talking about this the other day:
How many times have you been tripping with music in the background and gone all
-"Shhh... SHHHH!... what the fuck is that trippy ass noise"
-5 second pause
-"Ah nvm its some TOOL song that came on"
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Re: TOOL blows my mind [Re: NlightNme]
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whats that tool skit/song in one of their albums that is like a fake alien attack or something, and it starts out with like all creepy weird radio-like noises and the guy is like delivering a frantic freaked out message. i think its called blame hasslehoff or something?? That would freak the shit out of me if i was tripping.
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i'm not familiar enough with their material, but i know there's a song on 10,000 days called blame hoffman.
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it's not really a song though its more of a skit type thing the one im thinking of.
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Re: TOOL blows my mind [Re: Rhapsode]
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Disgustipated is one of the trippiest skits IMO, Merkaba is a track/ritual to open your 3rd eye or some shit that one always gets me while tripping too
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whats that tool skit/song in one of their albums that is like a fake alien attack or something, and it starts out with like all creepy weird radio-like noises and the guy is like delivering a frantic freaked out message. i think its called blame hasslehoff or something?? That would freak the shit out of me if i was tripping.
Faaip De Oiad, last song on Lateralus
It's actually a recording from Art Bell's show
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whats that tool skit/song in one of their albums that is like a fake alien attack or something, and it starts out with like all creepy weird radio-like noises and the guy is like delivering a frantic freaked out message. i think its called blame hasslehoff or something?? That would freak the shit out of me if i was tripping.
I can't remember the name of the tune that is in at the moment, but it was a real call made to a radio station. Presumably, a prank call  I always loved how, when it looped around to the start as if perfectly made to do so. IMO all of their releases are more monolithic than a mere collection of unrelated songs.
I love TOOL but I think it is funny as hell how people that don't are compelled to announce that they suck, they're pretentious etc. You don't have to like them, but they most certainly do not suck, and their songs carry a great many themes both musical and lyrical that resonate deeply with many, myself included.
edit: looks like Krash Karma got the name thanks
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Tool sucks.
I wear woman's clothes.
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I think even Maynard said that Tool sucks.
gravy stains, lol.
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I've met Maynard briefly at a wine signing....
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(1) Black,
(1) then,
(2) white are,
(3) all I see,
(5) in my infancy,
(8) red and yellow then came to be,
(5) reaching out to me,
(3) lets me see.
(2) There is,
(1) so,
(1) much,
(2) more and
(3) beckons me,
(5) to look through to these,
(8) infinite possibilities.
(13) As below so above and beyond I imagine,
(8) drawn beyond the lines of reason.
(5) Push the envelope.
(3) Watch it bend.
awesomeness right there.
This video explains it fairly well. Amazing stuff, beautiful pics, and great music.
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hey TOOL FANS!
If I was going to take a high dose mushroom trip...what TOOL album would you recommend?
A mix.
I always loved Aenema and Undertow back in the day, lateralus seems to be made for psychedelics.
I guess if no one else is gonna do it; a sample of their albums: 
Lateralus:
^^One of the most perfect songs ever written; absolutely soothing.
Undertow rocks(note massive bong hit)
Aemima is extremely trippy in a different kind of way.... It's kind of like a mixture of Undertow and Lateralus
with some new stuff stuck in there that's awesomely peculiar.
This song is really a good summary of the album Aenima:
No, wait!!
You should put off listening to this song until you are tripping nuts. That way it's your first time. Then do the loud music/lights off/comfy couch thing.
The feeling this song gives you while tripping is SO INDESCRIBABLE.
You know, that your face is going to melt off feeling-but in a good way feeling?
Yeaaaaaaaahhhhhhh.........
In fact, forget everything I have said, this, this is the song; the most emotionally pleasing spiritually trippy song they have ever written. It's a masterpiece. Very
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whats that tool skit/song in one of their albums that is like a fake alien attack or something, and it starts out with like all creepy weird radio-like noises and the guy is like delivering a frantic freaked out message. i think its called blame hasslehoff or something?? That would freak the shit out of me if i was tripping.
That song freaks me out too, Tool is good about weird thangs in their music to freak you out.
One night I was in an abandoned farmhouse all alone, listening to Opiate, and there is one song on that album that has the sound of a phone ringing in the background.
I didn't know this. Needless to say, I hit the road.
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And because I can't resist, here are the lyrics to third eye.
Dreaming of that face again.
It's bright and blue and shimmering.
Grinning wide
And comforting me with it's three warm and wild eyes.
On my back and tumbling
Down that hole and back again
Rising up
And wiping the webs and the dew from my withered eye.
In... Out... In... Out... In... Out...
A child's rhyme stuck in my head.
It said that life is but a dream.
I've spent so many years in question
to find I've known this all along.
"So good to see you.
I've missed you so much.
So glad it's over.
I've missed you so much
Came out to watch you play.
Why are you running away?
Came out to watch you play.
Why are you running away?"
Shrouding all the ground around me
Is this holy crow above me.
Black as holes within a memory
And blue as our new second sun.
I stick my hand into his shadow
To pull the pieces from the sand.
Which I attempt to reassemble
To see just who I might have been.
I do not recognize the vessel,
But the eyes seem so familiar.
Like phosphorescent desert buttons
Singing one familiar song...
"So good to see you.
I've missed you so much.
So glad it's over.
I've missed you so much.
Came out to watch you play.
Why are you running away?
Came out to watch you play.
Why are you running away?"
Prying open my third eye.
So good to see you once again.
I thought that you were hiding.
And you thought that I had run away.
Chasing the tail of dogma.
I opened my eye
and there we were...
So good to see you once again
I thought that you were hiding from me.
And you thought that I had run away.
Chasing a trail of smoke and reason.
Prying open my third eye
Tool is such an inspiration.
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Nurse: Excuse me, doctor, do you have a moment?
Doctor: A moment? What's the question?
Nurse: More of a situation, a gentleman in Exam 3.
Doctor: What's the problem?
Nurse: That is the problem: we're not sure.
Doctor: You've got the chart?
Nurse: Right here.
Doctor: Hmm... not much here, is there?
Nurse: No doctor, no obvious physical trauma, vitals are stable.
Doctor: Name?
Nurse: No sir.
Doctor: Did someone drop him off, maybe we can speak to them? Let's get some background on this fellow.
Nurse: No ID, nothing, and he won't speak to anybody.
Doctor: Well, let's say hello.
Doctor: Good morning, I'm Dr. Watson. How are you today? How are you today? Look son, you're in a safe place, we want to help you, in whatever way we can. But you need to talk to us, we can't help you otherwise. Now, what's happened? Tell me everything.
Alrighty, then ... picture this if you will.
10 to 2 AM, X, Yogi DMT, and a box of Krispy Kremes,
in my "need to know" pose, just outside of Area 51
Contemplating the whole "chosen people" thingy
when a flaming stealth banana split the sky
like one would hope but never really expect
to see in a place like this.
Cutting right angle donuts on a dime
and stopping right at my Birkenstocks,
and me yelping...
Holy fucking shit!
Then the X-Files being,
Looking like some kind of blue-green Jackie Chan
with Isabella Rossellini lips, and breath that reeked of
vanilla Chig Champa
Did a slow-mo Matrix descent
Outta the butt end of the banana vessel
And hovered above my bug-eyes, my gaping jaw,
and my sweaty L. Ron Hubbard upper lip,
and all I could think was:
"I hope Uncle Martin here doesn't notice
that I pissed my fuckin' pants."
So light in his way,
Like an apparition, [that]
He had me crying out,
"Fuck me
It's gotta be
the Deadhead Chemistry
The blotter got [right] on top of me
Got me seein' E-motherfuckin'-T!"
And after calming me down
with some orange slices
and some fetal spooning,
E.T. revealed to me his singular purpose.
He said, "You are the Chosen One,
the One who will deliver the message.
A message of hope for those who choose to hear it
and a warning for those who do not."
Me. The Chosen One?
They chose me!!!
And I didn't even graduate from fuckin' high school.
You'd better...
You'd better...
You'd better...
You'd better listen.
Then he looked right through me
With somniferous almond eyes
Don't even know what that means
Must remember to write it down
This is so real
Like the time Dave floated away
See, my heart is pounding
'Cause this shit never happens to me
I can't breathe right now!
It was so real,
Like I woke up in Wonderland.
All sorta terrifying
I don't wanna be all alone
While I tell this story.
And can anyone tell me why
Y'all sound like Peanuts parents?
Will I ever be coming down?
This is so real
Finally, it's my lucky day
See, my heart is racing
'Cause this shit never happens to me
I can't breathe right now!
You believe me, don't you?
Please believe what I've just said!
See the Dead ain't touring
And this wasn't all in my head.
See, they took me by the hand
And invited me right in.
Then they showed me something
I don't even know where to begin.
Strapped down [to] my bed
Feet cold [and] eyes red
I'm out of my head
Am I alive? Am I dead?
Can't remember what they said
God damn, shit the bed.
Hey ...
Overwhelmed as one would be, placed in my position.
Such a heavy burden now to be the One
Born to bear and bring to all the details of our ending,
To write it down for all the world to see.
But I forgot my pen
Shit the bed again ...
Typical.
Strapped down [to] my bed
Feet cold and eyes red
I'm out of my head
Am I alive? Am I dead?
Sunkist * and Sudafed
Gyroscopes and infrared
Won't help, I'm brain dead
Can't remember what they said
God damn, shit the bed
I can't remember what they said to me
Can't remember what they said to make me out to be the hero
Can't remember what they said
Bob help me!
Can't remember what they said
[We] don't know, [and we] won't know (x12)
God damn, shit the bed!
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Hell yes. I love that song!
I had forgotten how much I love this band.
This cover is far from the original but it's pretty
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Wow, never really read the rossetta stoned lyrics till now. Holy shizznit!
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If we didn't have pain, we wouldn't know pleasure.
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yeah dude i never really fully understood the song but now listening to it while reading the lyrics makes me see it in a whole new light.
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I like both but I like a perfect circle way better. Don't ask why I just do. Passive by apc is fuckn awsome if u ask me, could be better tho.
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I like both but I like a perfect circle way better. Don't ask why I just do. Passive by apc is fuckn awsome if u ask me, could be better tho.
Just listened to this, totally describes the way I feel towards my woman. That fucking passive agressive bullshit she puts on drives me insane. Fucking cunt. If she doesn't wake up, thats all she'll ever be, my fucking cock sleeve. Hopefully she wakes up or something better comes my way, cause I may have to kick her ass out the door.
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If we didn't have pain, we wouldn't know pleasure.
It's not that I'm never wrong, it's just that I never open my mouth unless I'm right.
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This thread has given me what appears to be hours worth of new material to look at. The rest of the thread has reminded me over and over of how much experiencing TOOL has positively affected my outlook on living. Something with the capacity to do this to a person is something I certainly, in my worldview, define as a hugely good and important thing.
Posting the lyrics to Third Eye and Rosetta stoned - those were fun to read.
I can't possibly listen to all the songs I've been inspired to put on the mental queue right now and, though the information overload can be daunting, it sure beats the alternative.
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I think even Maynard said that Tool sucks.
gravy stains, lol.
Maynard. < Tool.
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no one told me there was a tool thread over here!  I can't properly express how tool has influenced my life. Just the other night they announced a show in Hawaii. I've decided to go there for it. I've met some really cool people at the shows I've gone to. Plus the shows themselves are awesome. is anyone else going to the Hawaii show? Now im going to read this thread.
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Re: TOOL blows my mind [Re: xyz789]
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NlightNme said:
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Hakim0777 said:
(1) Black,
(1) then,
(2) white are,
(3) all I see,
(5) in my infancy,
(8) red and yellow then came to be,
(5) reaching out to me,
(3) lets me see.
(2) There is,
(1) so,
(1) much,
(2) more and
(3) beckons me,
(5) to look through to these,
(8) infinite possibilities.
(13) As below so above and beyond I imagine,
(8) drawn beyond the lines of reason.
(5) Push the envelope.
(3) Watch it bend.
awesomeness right there.
I fucking love this about lateralus. Only TOOL would properly use the fibonacci sequence in a song and have it mesh perfectly with their sound and lyrics. Spiral out... Keep... Going:
And about TOOL being for the emo:
Awesome post! It's been a while since ive seen that interview.
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I'm a fan. I rarely meet anyone else that likes them though. They seem to have a pretty small fan-base. I think they make some pretty badass noises.
Yeah, im in that boat too. When I do meet someone who is into them it's usually an instant friendship.
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When was the show in HI?
Also, you have balls of steel to bump a 10 day old thread 
The show is to be on 1/14/11. it's a friday and its motha fuckin payday too!
I was surprised by the lack of discussion of the live performances. Those are what usually blow peoples minds. Especially the late 2002 and earlier shows. My first real concert experience was in 2002 in tulsa. It was this tour:
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I never mentioned at the start of this thread that I've been to 14 TOOL shows. Every single one of them was utterly fantastic.
I was going to start a thread on "concert batting averages" about how, with TOOL 14 of 14 shows have been FANTASTIC (batting 1.00), with APC 5/5 were also fantastic (1.00), and how with Rufus Wainwright as an alternative example from the top of my head, out of two shows I went to one was great and one was kind of disappointing (batting .50)
The live shows are utterly crucial. I find it very difficult to respect a "band" that, when you go see them live, they aren't even physically capable or talented enough to come close to what they did on the album (which was spliced together from hundreds of takes, no doubt.) With TOOL, that never even enters ones mind.
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And I'm profoundly jealous I don't live closer to HI! The west coast too, for that matter. Unless I'm willing to invest some serious travel bucks (well, I've done it before for TOOL ...) I might not see them for a while.
I had to go to 14 shows to finally see "Third Eye" performed live. After 13 shows where they hadn't played it, when at that 14th I heard Tim Leary begin speaking out of the loudspeakers I think I came my pants.
Third Eye live was so euphoric I find it hard to even recall clearly. If only I'd been able to see them on the AEnima tour!
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yeah! I know exactly what you're talking about with that third eye stuff. I have a screen shot of my computer when they played in nola. I had a couple twitter feeds up and a few other pages up waiting for the setlist to be posted. then i saw third eye and shit the bed, when it was confirmed. So at that point I figured I had to see as many shows as possible during that last tour. Saw them both nights at red rocks, then vegas, and the two LA shows. Every tool show ive ever been to has been utterly amazing in may ways. I'm up to 15 and HI will be 16. Since I left Los Angeles last july I decided to save up money to go over to Europe when they do their next Euro tour. If you ever go to one of these tool army meet ups you'll meet some folks that have like 50 or 60 tool shows under their belts. Tool has some pretty hardcore fans, as im sure you know. *sighs* good times.
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Re: TOOL blows my mind [Re: Viveka]
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I fucking love this about lateralus. Only TOOL would properly use the fibonacci sequence in a song and have it mesh perfectly with their sound and lyrics. Spiral out... Keep... Going:
Except that Marilyn Manson did it first, by roughly a year I might add.
Elaborate. Are you saying they did this on Holywood? Where?
Here's the main thing about TOOL that is so great if you ask me, and I was made keenly aware of this yet again on their most recent stadium tour: Almost all of their material, even the songs that get radio play, have odd, complex rhythmic structures yet they still groove very effectively. You don't get that with many other bands, not even most of the other bands mentioned in this thread. Not even other bands that are considered "prog". Very few bands have such a consistently unique and effective rhythmic thing happening. That's why they are so successful(even though most folks don't think about the music consciously in those terms). And because they have one of the best rock singers in history, a guitar player with restraint and exceedingly artful tone and a bass player with synesthesia.
It's in the beats, for example the first track starts out with sounds prior to the guitar in a sequence of 1, 1, 2, 3, 5.
Track 2 follows with 8 beats.
Track 3 follows with 13 staccato guitar notes
And so on.
It's not as involved as Tool but the fact is it came out a year prior and Manson himself said the album includes Fibonacci sequences in the songs. Sorry it took so long to respond, I forgot about this thread.
It can also be seen in Manson's watercolor art, even though it isn't quite as related to the topic:
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I really hope this thread doesn't turn into a "Who's better/more creative manson or tool" thread because I've got enough info and opinion on both sides to argue myself into the fucking ground.
edit: yay some one else who likes NK
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Nothing beats TOOL live. I've been to two concerts, and going to be going to more when they tour America next.
I suggest you look for some of their demo recordings from '91.
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I really hope this thread doesn't turn into a "Who's better/more creative manson or tool" thread because I've got enough info and opinion on both sides to argue myself into the fucking ground.
edit: yay some one else who likes NK
We need to include NIN in the mix then.
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Here's the Jerk-Off demo. Pretty amazing.
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Its not a bong hit. Its someone drowning
Dude thank you for saying this.
I was reading through the thread and was going to reply, but you seemed to sum this up well. I agree that it is someone drowning, and think it sets the whole mood for Undertow.
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I really hope this thread doesn't turn into a "Who's better/more creative manson or tool" thread because I've got enough info and opinion on both sides to argue myself into the fucking ground.
edit: yay some one else who likes NK
We need to include NIN in the mix then.
In my professional opinion, as of 2007, any discussion on NIN should begin with Year Zero, the only concept album that actually altered my experience of reality in a palpable way, rather than just adding an intriguing atmosphere.
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That's like saying we can't discuss Pink Floyd prior to "A Momentary Lapse of Reason."
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I just said it should start there.
I didn't say we had to go chronologically onward
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Oh I get it, I took it differently. Thought you meant that we can't talk about anything released prior to YZ for some arbitrary reason.
The Downward Spiral really isn't touchable. It's not only NIN's best; it's one of the best albums I've ever heard from an objective standpoint as well. I've never tripped to NIN, I probably wouldn't ever. Not the type of music I'd trip to so I can't give any input from that perspective. I'll be honest I think pretty much everything that came out after The Fragile just wasn't that great. Some good spots like YZ here and there but still just not the NIN I fell in love with back in '95. And holy shit I got obsessed with NIN. I had at least 12 NIN shirts, every halo (except for the second disc of the MotP maxi single) plus what I could find on cassette and vinyl, and more than enough fan mixes, bootlegs, rarities, etc. to go around. It's pretty much all I listened to along with Manson for a couple years. For all of the NIN I've listened to over the years, I always find myself going back to The Downward Spiral time and again more than any of the rest combined.
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Downward Spiral was a pretty big deal to me, but I was always more partial to Pretty Hate Machine. DS is more consistant track by track, but the tracks I love from PHM stand out amongst my favorite songs in general.
I'm a little biased, or unbiased maybe, in the sense that I've always been drawn in more by Marilyn Manson than NIN; the similar space they fill had already been maxed out by Manson before I got into Downward Spiral.
I've always been keenly aware of the difference between why some one would prefer either Manson or NIN over the other; NIN seems more real, true to life, genuine. Manson seems more cartoony at times, over the top, theatrical, dramatic..
some people just seem to be more drawn to one than the other.
I stumbled onto the Year Zero Alternate Reality Game really early, right around when My Violent Heart was found, and I just happened to be knee deep in a heavy period of darvocet and dxm abuse (darvocet does weird things to my mood/perception, especially with DXM)
Everything about it was so similar to the head-trip I was going through at the time. The entire theme of revolution, the feeling that at any minute shit was going to go crazy and humanity was going to take a deep plunge, that government agencies were going to put all their remaining effort into being as militant and forceful as possible...
I spent more time walking with headphones on when that album came out than I'd ever spent before.
Out of my entire life, walking around my desolate city filled to the brim with abandoned factories and houses and stores with Year Zero in my ears (tripping balls on dissociatives and buffered from it all even more with darvocet) stands out as one of the most vivid memorable times of my life that shaped who I am and the way I experience this place.
Topped only by meeting my woman and maybe a few other "firsts"
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As a Nine Inch Nails fan, you might like the song "passive" by A Perfect Circle. It was originally written/composed by Maynard and Danny Lohner from NIN, and was originally going to be included as part of a side-project called "Tapeworm", that I think was a collaboration between NIN and Maynard (not sure about the rest of TOOL.) Back then it was called "Vacant"
When that fell through, a few years went by, and then A Perfect Circle decided they'd release the song, but under the new title. For a long time there was just a live recording of "Vacant" floating around the net; I was very happy when they decided to make a studio version - "Passive"
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Yeah Tool blows alright..
I hope no one said this already I'm not reading 9 pages of tool fans (aptly named "tools" by the band) talking.
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Yeah Tool blows alright..
I hope no one said this already I'm not reading 9 pages of tool fans (aptly named "tools" by the band) talking.
I have no illusions that I'm not a hooker and a tool - just like everyone else. "If I'm the fucking man then you're the fucking man as well," right? "I'm the man and he's the man and you're the man as well," amigo.
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so you can point that fucking finger up your ass
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You guys are selling out.
Laying down.
Sucking up to the man.
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lol. Okay truth be told I really like Tool, I just haven't listened to them in a while. I hate listening to Maynard talk in interviews though, but that's an easy fix I just don't do it.
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Re: TOOL blows my mind [Re: abore]
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Sometimes artists get this idea that because they have a base of fans that likes their music, they'll have a base of fans who will like their philosophy/politics/dumbass religions/other ideas. Sometimes they're right, but presenting those ideas can have an alienating effect on an audience who respects you as one kind of artist, but may be unfamiliar or not as favorable to you as you fill the role of another form of artist.
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Its not a bong hit. Its someone drowning
Dude thank you for saying this.
I was reading through the thread and was going to reply, but you seemed to sum this up well. I agree that it is someone drowning, and think it sets the whole mood for Undertow.
I think it's funny people make a point to correct this statement as though they can say for sure.
Nobody knows absolutely b/c you weren't there and it probably isn't any of the things we have stated.
I have loved Tool since before Paul was murdered and replaced and I have heard everything from bonghit, to motorboat, to someone drowning as an explanation.
ANY OG TOOL FAN would know that TOol is all about what their music means and is to the individual listening to it, not what it actually is.
So then debating over what their music means is about as pointless as calling someone a sellout.
I believe when Maynard was specifically asked in an interview one time, he said the noise was indeed, "a noise type thing". My Lord, if he doesn't even care enough to correct people on music thangs, why should his minions?
I wasn't going to say anything, but being corrected twice about something that isn't even a fact kinda pushed my buttons, I guess....plus no coffee yet.
See you, auntie.
It is worth mentioning that much of what Tool says, you need to take with a HUGE grain of salt. A lot of it is made up (an interview hinting at 24-minute songs, and an April Fools' prank about a highway accident come to mind), so be careful when you choose to believe something you are being told. If anything, it is probably a good reminder that we should exercise our best judgment and not be sheep in the herd. (One of Tool's main messages seems to be that people need to think for themselves more.) After all, the falsehoods are usually well told, but do tend to seem a bit peculiarly off-the-wall.
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Just thought I'd mention, I saw A Perfect Circle perform Mer De Noms in it's entirety last weekend, about 15 feet from the stage in a medium-small venue. Yes, I wept openly about three times. Once toward the end of Judith in anticipation of Orestes, once during Orestes and again during Brena.
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Re: TOOL blows my mind [Re: Viveka]
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The Hollow would have gotten me for sure.
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Well yeah, but I was still up at the bar when it started and I was all "Oh shit!" and scrambled down near some other people who were dancing and singing harmonies and really getting into it along with me.
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Re: TOOL blows my mind [Re: Viveka]
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I remember when that album came out. I recall putting it on and just being stunned... then cracking the code of weird symbols in the liner notes.
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Re: TOOL blows my mind [Re: xyz789]
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I've never been able to get into more than "Judith" from APC. I have their entire discography and have listened to every album, some more than a few times. Just not for me I guess. Then again, I really disliked tool up until maybe two years ago so maybe it'll take that long for APC to grow on me.
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I've never been able to get into more than "Judith" from APC.
Ummm, okay, did you actually listen to the whole album ever? Several times preferably?
Mer De Noms I mean. In all honesty it's the only thing in the catalog that I think really matters at the end of the day. Yeah, 13th Step, I'm glad it exists, but it's no Mer De Noms. And the covers album is inconsequential entirely.
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Just thought I'd mention, I saw A Perfect Circle perform Mer De Noms in it's entirety last weekend, about 15 feet from the stage in a medium-small venue. Yes, I wept openly about three times. Once toward the end of Judith in anticipation of Orestes, once during Orestes and again during Brena.
where were they touring?
(please dont ban me for posting).
Small west coast tour I think. They played the Showbox here in Seattle three nights in a row, different album each night. It sold out in literally 5 fucking seconds and I couldn't score one off Ticketbastard even though I was on hitting refresh right at 10:00 am. Fortunately my great friend helped me out. And the 10 year old album did cometh out and they saw that it was good.
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It is worth mentioning that much of what Tool says, you need to take with a HUGE grain of salt. A lot of it is made up (an interview hinting at 24-minute songs, and an April Fools' prank about a highway accident come to mind), so be careful when you choose to believe something you are being told. If anything, it is probably a good reminder that we should exercise our best judgment and not be sheep in the herd. (One of Tool's main messages seems to be that people need to think for themselves more.) After all, the falsehoods are usually well told, but do tend to seem a bit peculiarly off-the-wall.
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I have loved Tool since before Paul was murdered and replaced and I have heard everything from bonghit, to motorboat, to someone drowning as an explanation.
I agree with most everything you said, which makes me feel bad that I have to point out that Paul D'Amour wasn't murdered - he's still alive and well. (Insert lame comment about "now who's OGT?" here - haha, it would've made for a decent slam too if I was replying to someone who'd been acting ignorant, not to mention that I only discovered TOOL after AEnima came out so I can't really honestly call myself OGT, especially compared to someone who's been a fan since Paul was in the band.) Here's the Wikipedia article on him if you want to double check. He left the band over creative differences from what I recall; it certainly wasn't because he was murdered. Sorry to be "correcting" you when your post was making a good point about the other times in this thread you've been "corrected!" Do you remember where you originally heard Paul was murdered? I wonder ...
This reminds me of when Toolshed.down.net announced that the band had died in a bus crash one April Fools day. I'm glad I didn't check the page that day; it supposedly resulted in false news columns being published and a great number of fans losing it!
Maybe the "Paul was murdered" thing came to be in an analogous fashion?
Edit: D'oh! Seeing as you mentioned the bus accident story in your post, I guess that means I skimmed your post a little too quickly after reading the thing about Paul; I'm actually kind of blown away that I ended up referencing the bus accident story to illustrate an idea after you just did the same thing. Maybe my quick-skim stuck the idea into my subconscious even though I didn't consciously register that you had mentioned it.
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Downward Spiral was a pretty big deal to me, but I was always more partial to Pretty Hate Machine. DS is more consistant track by track, but the tracks I love from PHM stand out amongst my favorite songs in general.
I'm a little biased, or unbiased maybe, in the sense that I've always been drawn in more by Marilyn Manson than NIN; the similar space they fill had already been maxed out by Manson before I got into Downward Spiral.
I've always been keenly aware of the difference between why some one would prefer either Manson or NIN over the other; NIN seems more real, true to life, genuine. Manson seems more cartoony at times, over the top, theatrical, dramatic..
some people just seem to be more drawn to one than the other.
I stumbled onto the Year Zero Alternate Reality Game really early, right around when My Violent Heart was found, and I just happened to be knee deep in a heavy period of darvocet and dxm abuse (darvocet does weird things to my mood/perception, especially with DXM)
Everything about it was so similar to the head-trip I was going through at the time. The entire theme of revolution, the feeling that at any minute shit was going to go crazy and humanity was going to take a deep plunge, that government agencies were going to put all their remaining effort into being as militant and forceful as possible...
I spent more time walking with headphones on when that album came out than I'd ever spent before.
Out of my entire life, walking around my desolate city filled to the brim with abandoned factories and houses and stores with Year Zero in my ears (tripping balls on dissociatives and buffered from it all even more with darvocet) stands out as one of the most vivid memorable times of my life that shaped who I am and the way I experience this place.
Topped only by meeting my woman and maybe a few other "firsts"
Your story bears some similarity to one of mine. A Perfect Circle put out "Thirteenth Step" while I was still battling an addiction to painkillers. There were a number of times I was driving to pick up oxys and listening to "The Package" on my way; the irony was not lost on me, and after enough times and a lot of self-reflection it actually contributed to my finally deciding I needed help and couldn't fix myself on my own. I actually listened to that song EVERY time I would go to re-up; I guess I was trying to tell myself something.
For those folks who don't know APC well, "Thirteenth Step" was an album that explored drug addiction from a variety of perspectives in a pretty unique way - for example, while "The Package" is from the point of view of the user (who is overcome with cravings all the time whose life has been reduced to doing anything to score - pretending to like people he hates because they can hook him up, etc. - and avoid the pain of withdrawal ) whereas the song "The Stranger" appears to be from the point of view of a relative who is entirely unsympathetic to the family addict's situation, and isn't afraid of saying so!
The album turned out to be a useful tool (oops, I think I just made a pun) in examining my life at that point in time, and more specifically, increasing my awareness of how I was affecting everyone around me. I wouldn't go so far as to give an album - any album - a significant amount of credit for getting me off the damn painkillers, but I can't say it didn't help start me down that path by forcing me to think about it.
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I have one extra ticket for tool's show in Hawaii on 1/14/11. I'm waiting to hear back from someone about it though, so it may be sold. tool in hawaii is going to be about as epic as it gets for me. especially if im able to get some good drugs out there. And to join in on this APC discussion i will just say that apc fucking rocks. I went to the first three shows of this recent tour in Tempe. got to see some great music. I've got a review posted on the growery i think. The thing i hated was the camera/smoking gestapo that were tactical to military expectations. bullshit! it was way worse than any prior show ive ever been to anyway.
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maynard could do a song about taking a crap and eating pie and the tooltards will still find profound life changing messages in it.
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I have one extra ticket for tool's show in Hawaii on 1/14/11. I'm waiting to hear back from someone about it though, so it may be sold. tool in hawaii is going to be about as epic as it gets for me. especially if im able to get some good drugs out there. And to join in on this APC discussion i will just say that apc fucking rocks. I went to the first three shows of this recent tour in Tempe. got to see some great music. I've got a review posted on the growery i think. The thing i hated was the camera/smoking gestapo that were tactical to military expectations. bullshit! it was way worse than any prior show ive ever been to anyway.
What island in Hawaii is this show?
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I have loved Tool since before Paul was murdered and replaced and I have heard everything from bonghit, to motorboat, to someone drowning as an explanation.
I agree with most everything you said, which makes me feel bad that I have to point out that Paul D'Amour wasn't murdered - he's still alive and well. (Insert lame comment about "now who's OGT?" here - haha,
yeah, I was kidding. I have heard members of the group mention that they were plotting Paul's death before he left and I guess that's where my mind went. Sorry I went off like that, I was feeling extremely bitchy at that moment.
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I'm actually kind of blown away that I ended up referencing the bus accident story to illustrate an idea after you just did the same thing. Maybe my quick-skim stuck the idea into my subconscious even though I didn't consciously register that you had mentioned it.
The mind is a strange thang...especially when influences like Tool and APC help develop it.
On the APC note, I think they are equally as profound as Tool. I had my reservations at first, but they won me over in the long run.
Anyone a fan of Puscifer?
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maynard could do a song about taking a crap and eating pie and the tooltards will still find profound life changing messages in it.
You're probably right. But not all Tool fans are Tooltards. I am a recovering Tooltard myself. I busted someone's lip when I was 14 b/c they said MJK was a fag. Maynard was a God to me and I had elaborate plans to seek Adam out one day and become an apprentice.....
It's surprises me to think that I was actually that young, dumb and hostile.....and survived
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That's probably my favorite puscifer song as well as maybe one of the counting bodies like sheep remixes. Other than that tho I couldn't really get in to puscifer like I could Tool/APC.
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Re: TOOL blows my mind [Re: NlightNme]
#13522812 - 11/22/10 07:33 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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You're probably right. But not all Tool fans are Tooltards. I am a recovering Tooltard myself. I busted someone's lip when I was 14 b/c they said MJK was a fag. Maynard was a God to me and I had elaborate plans to seek Adam out one day and become an apprentice.....
It's surprises me to think that I was actually that young, dumb and hostile.....and survived
wow... how did you start to come out of it?
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Re: TOOL blows my mind [Re: Viveka]
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I've never been able to get into more than "Judith" from APC.
Ummm, okay, did you actually listen to the whole album ever? Several times preferably?
Mer De Noms I mean. In all honesty it's the only thing in the catalog that I think really matters at the end of the day. Yeah, 13th Step, I'm glad it exists, but it's no Mer De Noms. And the covers album is inconsequential entirely.
Yes. See I really disliked Tool for years. It wasn't until maybe 2 years ago that I started to get into Tool and I'm still not into more than Aenema and Undertow. A few songs from other albums are good but don't get too much play overall. So I don't find myself getting into things Tool-related just for that reason alone. APC doesn't have what appeals to me about Aenema and Undertow, and doesn't really appeal to me otherwise. Just not a big fan I guess.
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You're probably right. But not all Tool fans are Tooltards. I am a recovering Tooltard myself. I busted someone's lip when I was 14 b/c they said MJK was a fag. Maynard was a God to me and I had elaborate plans to seek Adam out one day and become an apprentice.....
It's surprises me to think that I was actually that young, dumb and hostile.....and survived
wow... how did you start to come out of it?
Easy, I grew up and started forming my own opinions (at least, I tell myself I do).
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And the covers album is inconsequential entirely.
Glad to know I wasn't the only one almost entirely disappointed by eMotive. I bought the album without thinking when it first came out and aside from *Passive, *When the levee breaks and *Fiddle and the Drum, I never listen to it.
Fiddle and the Drum has the ability to bring me to tears when it catches me in the right place. That is a beautiful cover.
Yep, just did it.
FUCKING WHY.
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I don't see a Tool tour date for Hawaii on 1/14/11... . ... .....
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Re: TOOL blows my mind [Re: MOTH]
#13526645 - 11/22/10 10:36 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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The tickets went on sale last Saturday. It's funny that the own band's website doesn't put up their tour dates. Only in the updates will you find em on their page. I don't know how to interpret that.
http://www.fourtheye.net/2010/11/tool-hit-hawaii/
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I have one extra ticket for tool's show in Hawaii on 1/14/11. I'm waiting to hear back from someone about it though, so it may be sold. tool in hawaii is going to be about as epic as it gets for me. especially if im able to get some good drugs out there. And to join in on this APC discussion i will just say that apc fucking rocks. I went to the first three shows of this recent tour in Tempe. got to see some great music. I've got a review posted on the growery i think. The thing i hated was the camera/smoking gestapo that were tactical to military expectations. bullshit! it was way worse than any prior show ive ever been to anyway.
What island in Hawaii is this show?
The concert is in Honolulu on Oahu.
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Re: TOOL blows my mind [Re: Viveka]
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After at least 4-5 years, Mer De Noms still is in my top albums list. It's phenomenal beyond words.
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After at least 4-5 years, Mer De Noms still is in my top albums list. It's phenomenal beyond words.
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