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LSD in Crystal Form?
    #13403247 - 10/28/10 10:40 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Ok so say that swim got a bunch of lsd from a friend.  It is in crystal form, its white (foggy, not see through), odorless, etc.  It came in a plastic bag inside of tin foil.  There is a lot of this stuff in there.  Swim's friend said that he can just put it on his tongue and it will work. 

This is swim's first time ever seeing or using lsd.  Does this sound right to you?  I've never heard of people using this stuff in pure crystal form before.  If so, how would swim find the correct dosage to use?  Since this stuff is sensitive to UV rays and not light, he would be happy to upload a pic of it tomorrow if that would help.  Thanks everyone.


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Re: LSD in Crystal Form? [Re: Sagerox]
    #13403266 - 10/28/10 10:43 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Put some under your tongue, perfect test.


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Re: LSD in Crystal Form? [Re: cionide]
    #13403296 - 10/28/10 10:47 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

That sounds highly suspect - how much did he tell you to take?

If it is truly LSD crystal then you need to be extraordinarily careful with the amount...


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Re: LSD in Crystal Form? [Re: dwpineal]
    #13403328 - 10/28/10 10:54 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

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That sounds highly suspect - how much did he tell you to take?

If it is truly LSD crystal then you need to be extraordinarily careful with the amount...




He said to take an 1/8th of a tab, but I don't really know how much that is cuz ive never used lsd b4.  He said its really potent


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Re: LSD in Crystal Form? [Re: dwpineal]
    #13403339 - 10/28/10 10:57 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

its not in any kind of fluid? LSD quickly turns into ISO-LSD (inactive lsd isomer)when exposed to light, heat, or AIR. When LSD is made it is so sensitive that they have to switch between different photography type safe lights, and even no light, and all processes are done with nitrogen atmosphere so oxygen won't touch it, then the crystal is put in a darkish vial in distilled water, thats how you get crystal, although often if you get a vial it will just be dissolved in a solution and you drip it on stuff (calibrate the dropper if you do this!), oh and if you ever do get crystal, don't try to lick it, you could end up in the hospital with minor problems physically but major problems mentally from the crazy amount of acid you just did and almost inevitable bad trip, if you really want to do straight crystal, take a paper clip and just press the end against the crystals, then lick it-that will still be like doing about a sheet or half sheet or something


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Re: LSD in Crystal Form? [Re: Sagerox]
    #13403363 - 10/28/10 11:02 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

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dwpineal said:
That sounds highly suspect - how much did he tell you to take?

If it is truly LSD crystal then you need to be extraordinarily careful with the amount...




He said to take an 1/8th of a tab, but I don't really know how much that is cuz ive never used lsd b4.  He said its really potent




Straight-up you need to have him come over and show you what to do. It would be irresponsible for him to just leave it with you an say, "okay, have fun!"

The paperclip method is correct (but the opinion on the dose sounds way off)


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Re: LSD in Crystal Form? [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #13403376 - 10/28/10 11:04 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

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its not in any kind of fluid? LSD quickly turns into ISO-LSD (inactive lsd isomer)when exposed to light, heat, or AIR. When LSD is made it is so sensitive that they have to switch between different photography type safe lights, and even no light, and all processes are done with nitrogen atmosphere so oxygen won't touch it, then the crystal is put in a darkish vial in distilled water, thats how you get crystal, although often if you get a vial it will just be dissolved in a solution and you drip it on stuff (calibrate the dropper if you do this!), oh and if you ever do get crystal, don't try to lick it, you could end up in the hospital with minor problems physically but major problems mentally from the crazy amount of acid you just did and almost inevitable bad trip, if you really want to do straight crystal, take a paper clip and just press the end against the crystals, then lick it-that will still be like doing about a sheet or half sheet or something




It didnt come in a vial, but it is as you described.  What do i drip it on and how much do i drip?


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Re: LSD in Crystal Form? [Re: dwpineal]
    #13403384 - 10/28/10 11:05 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

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dwpineal said:
That sounds highly suspect - how much did he tell you to take?

If it is truly LSD crystal then you need to be extraordinarily careful with the amount...




He said to take an 1/8th of a tab, but I don't really know how much that is cuz ive never used lsd b4.  He said its really potent




Straight-up you need to have him come over and show you what to do. It would be irresponsible for him to just leave it with you an say, "okay, have fun!"

The paperclip method is correct (but the opinion on the dose sounds way off)




Ok I'll talk to him in depth about it tomorrow.  Please keep the opinions coming!


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Re: LSD in Crystal Form? [Re: Sagerox] * 1
    #13403398 - 10/28/10 11:07 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

There is something really really fishy here. If this person isn't trolling, im very doubtful its LSD. No one is ever given crystal thats never taken lsd. I mean, who hands over crystal lsd to someone thats never taken it? If your not making anything up i bet you got an RC like a 2c or something.


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Re: LSD in Crystal Form? [Re: Everything]
    #13403415 - 10/28/10 11:10 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

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Everything said:
There is something really really fishy here. If this person isn't trolling, im very doubtful its LSD. No one is ever given crystal thats never taken lsd. I mean, who hands over crystal lsd to someone thats never taken it? If your not making anything up i bet you got an RC like a 2c or something.




I'm dead serious, and I'll upload a pic of it tomorrow.  Be sure to check back tomorrow evening - I'll upload a pic and tell you what he says...


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Re: LSD in Crystal Form? [Re: Everything]
    #13403436 - 10/28/10 11:14 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Yea, at the very least, it isn't pure LSD crystals.  A gram of that is like $10000 (literally).  I doubt he has that.

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Re: LSD in Crystal Form? [Re: dwpineal]
    #13403469 - 10/28/10 11:22 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

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dwpineal said:
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dwpineal said:
That sounds highly suspect - how much did he tell you to take?

If it is truly LSD crystal then you need to be extraordinarily careful with the amount...




He said to take an 1/8th of a tab, but I don't really know how much that is cuz ive never used lsd b4.  He said its really potent




Straight-up you need to have him come over and show you what to do. It would be irresponsible for him to just leave it with you an say, "okay, have fun!"

The paperclip method is correct (but the opinion on the dose sounds way off)




true, my bad, I should've said you CAN have that big of a dose if you're not careful with how you do it, micrograms are what again? like one tenth the size of a grain of sand right? I know its some fraction of a grain of sand, and a dose of lsd is anywhere from about 30-100mg on a tab, so the paperclip method can have a huge range of dosage, especially if you don't know what you're doing.

If you got it in a liquid solution then that can be a big problem because it just depends on how strong he mixed it. It didn't come with a dropper or anything? this sounds pretty sketchy, most acid is never handled like this, and it sounds like you are going to have to do some experimenting, but this is a good read as far as droppers and vials nwutnot

http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/dose/dose_info1.shtml

"One potential problem that arises when people plan to use a liquid measurement technique for measuring individual doses, is figuring out how much material one is starting with. It is imperative that the material being dissolved be accurately measured. Some people figure if they buy a quantity of material from a vendor or individual, the amount of material they receive is known. This Is Not The Case. For instance with legal, grey market, or research chemicals, it is not uncommon for a vendor to provide significantly more or less material than the amount ordered. One individual describes ordering 500 mg of a compound only to measure it when it arrived, finding 1000 mg instead. If s/he had assumed that the starting material was"


so I don't suppose you have a mg scale and either a container of the same size filled with the same amount of the same liquid to tare, or a way to filter it off and weight it under nitrogen?

good luck on this one, and be careful


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Re: LSD in Crystal Form? [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #13403523 - 10/28/10 11:31 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

itt someone gives this kid 2c or some synthetic and tells him it's "LSD and all that hippy shit blah"


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Re: LSD in Crystal Form? [Re: saxx]
    #13403552 - 10/28/10 11:36 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

definitely agree. The chances that its actually lsd are slim to none, chances that its rcs are pretty fucking high, but either way dosage is tricky


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Re: LSD in Crystal Form? [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #13403581 - 10/28/10 11:42 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

by the way lsd dissolved in solution is clear, not foggy as you described, although I suppose theres a chance it could be foggy if it wasnt properly dissolved or it just isn't that pure, but yeah...and he said take a 1/8 tab? thats blotter paper measurements dude, did he want you to put it on blotter? and the whole "its super potent" really sounds like what you hear when its an rc in the DOx/stp family


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Re: LSD in Crystal Form? [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #13403615 - 10/28/10 11:47 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

I mean, if you really did get LSD. Just barely poke one of those crystals with your finger (maybe your finger will be a TAD moist).

You should be trippin balls for 2 days.


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Re: LSD in Crystal Form? [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #13403648 - 10/28/10 11:55 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

He said it was crystal and in a bag, why do people keep referring to liquid? I'd put my money on it being an rc though.


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Re: LSD in Crystal Form? [Re: wal0013]
    #13403698 - 10/29/10 12:06 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: LSD in Crystal Form? [Re: Sagerox]
    #13404631 - 10/29/10 04:37 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

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This is swim's first time ever seeing or using lsd.  Does this sound right to you? 




If the first time you got LSD, you were able to get enough to see crystals, then you seem to know people able to get serious quantities of LSD.  I doubt that you actually have crystals of LSD.

If it is, then yes, you probably could just dab your tongue to a crystal and easily get enough to trip on.  I really wouldn't suggest doing that if you actually had a crystal of LSD, because you're not going to be able to control how much you get.  The difference between absorbing 50 micrograms, which would be a nice, light, comfortable experience and 1000 micrograms, which could easily prove overwhelming would be too difficult to control.

If it really is LSD, what you'd want to do is find a way to weigh all of it (accurately as possible) and dissolve it in distilled water.  Suppose you have, say 10 mg (milligrams) of LSD and you dissolve it in 10 ml of distilled water, then you know you have 1 mg/mL and can adjust your dose by volume.

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Since this stuff is sensitive to UV rays and not light




If you have a blacklight, take the sample to a dark room and expose it to the blacklight briefly.  If it displays a violet-blue fluorescence, then you might actually have LSD (I can provide a reference for this if you wish).

Posting pictures of the crystal will not tell us anything.  Generally, a chemical compound cannot be identified by the mere appearance of its crystalline form.

If you do try to check for fluorescence, be sure to minimize the amount of time that the sample is exposed to the blacklight.  UV will cause the sample to degrade.  You just want to see if it fluoresces violet-blue, which should only take a second (it will be readily apparent: if it's LSD, under blacklight in the dark, it will be glowing violet-blue). 

Note that violet-blue fluorescence does not confirm the identity of LSD.  It is merely consistent with the properties of LSD: it could be another related compound, such as ergine (a.k.a. LSA or lysergic acid amide).


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Re: LSD in Crystal Form? [Re: Loonery]
    #13404641 - 10/29/10 04:41 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

:blush:black light! duh! good point


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