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jivJaN said:
watch out chronic or ice da shrink might think you have beef with women too.

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I do, selfish goldigging slutbags the lot of em, always ready to leave you for a bigger bank account or bigger dick

Really though women are amazing creatures

Im one of the lucky ones, my mommy loved me so i'm capable of loving women

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jivJaN said:
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And you've been with this girl for 4 years ?
Don't you want to experience other women ?

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The Chronic said:
nice poem, raw

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Glad to see you appreciate my favorite Poet.

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leery11 said:


tolles teachings are fairly okay but they can , i can see how , they can make you a zombie, you aren't movin gor doing tai chi you are encouraged to sit forever and not get up , and to not think, not to use a mantra or even to pray or to have a goal
and so a nihilsit might act like that instead of , you know, getting drunk or addicted or hurtin gthemselves, and then go total zombie in a while because they are doing it to try to cope with a tremendous huge issue

IT WORKS, but it is also ,  i would not say the best or most healthy way to have spiritual healing, i would say its very very very very very slow ,

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The Chronic said:

If Eckhart is a true master or whatever you wanna call it, then he is only a mirror, all this arrogance & stuff shes saying about him, is her own crap shes projecting onto him, thats why shes having trouble pinpointing exactly what it is shes doesn't like about him.

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I can't find the quote buried in those other forums, but it went something like this:

The three ways that a guru (and his followers) deflects criticism.

1. "you just don't understand because you are on a lower spiritual level, etc..."
2. "you are just projecting your own insecurities onto me and so all these criticisms you bring up of me are actually criticisms of yourself..."
3. "I'm not abusing you, this is just 'expedient means' or 'crazy wisdom'. You see, I'm actually purifying your karma by causing you this pain and suffering..."

It always comes back to deflecting the criticisms of the guru or the group and putting it back onto the person doing the criticizing.

Look, I'll grant you this, the lady doesn't reveal any horrifically shocking secrets. But I think that it's an interesting perspective from a person who claims to have been very close with Tolle. Maybe I made my title of my thread more provocative sounding than was warranted by the actual content. But I still think that it's important to realize the human dimension of the guru and the potential for power, fame, and money to corrupt.

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