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 Psilocybe semilanceata.   2
#13317348 - 10/10/10 07:42 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Formerly "Liberty cap/Strictipes variants", now a look at Psilocybe semilanceata (acknowledging that there may be some Strictipes mixed in because they're so hard to distinguish without a microscope).
Enjoy !
Note: "Show full-sized hosted images" should be set to "no".
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/editdisplay.php?Cat=
Psilocybe semilanceata-
Fresh examples,
   
Drying pellicle, (note that they dry from the top down)
   
Dry pellicle,
   
Gills,
   
Stipe, (shreddable) (more info)
   
Separable gelatinous pellicle, (more info)
   
Partial veil, (immature mushrooms only)
   
Variants, (not complete)
1... 2... 3... 4... 5...
6... 7... 8... 9... 10.
11. 12. 13. 14. 15.
16. 17. 18. 19. 20.
21. 22. 23. 24. 25.
26. 27. 28. 29. 30.
31. 32. 33. 34. 35. 
36. 37. 38.  39.
40.  41.  42.  43. 
Freak show,
   
    
Sterile, (more info)
    
Look-a-likes,
Stropharia semiglobata, (more info)
   
Panaeolus & Panaeolina, (more info)
   
Here's some random mushies i find in lib fields, one deadly mushroom here so check it out.
More lib pics ? --> Community Collection
Further reading.
Liberty Caps (Semilanceata) Theories & Statements Vs. Myths
Liberty Cap - Locations Worldwide (ADD A Location!)
Liberty caps UK 2012
Edited by Temerity (04/07/13 09:10 PM)
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Re: Liberty Cap/Strictipes Variants. [Re: Temerity]
#13317361 - 10/10/10 07:46 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Cool catalogue!
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Re: Liberty Cap/Strictipes Variants. [Re: Temerity]
#13317365 - 10/10/10 07:47 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Excellent work sir!
I was thinking of something similar, especially to help virgin liberty cap pickers to get their eye in before they go picking.
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Thanks people, it puts my gallery to use.
I need some blue and damaged stipe pics.
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Re: Liberty Cap/Strictipes Variants. [Re: Temerity]
#13317373 - 10/10/10 07:49 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Mikeyyork said:
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Left looks like maybe P. beaocystis
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Re: Liberty Cap/Strictipes Variants. [Re: jet li]
#13317401 - 10/10/10 07:56 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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I didn't think those grew here ?
I found them in a sheep hole and it's not the first time i've come across weird stipes in those, they're usually shorter and twisted though, flattened out more like the one on the left.
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Re: Liberty Cap/Strictipes Variants. [Re: Temerity]
#13317433 - 10/10/10 08:08 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Possibly just deformed or maybe a different species altogether? Interesting, nonetheless. Do they bruise more than the for sure Libs?
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Re: Liberty Cap/Strictipes Variants. [Re: jet li]
#13317709 - 10/10/10 09:13 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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No, no bruising. I don't know what causes it but i can only recall seeing it in certain micro habitats, like i say in those sheep holes, where the grass is thin and it's sandy.
Similar to this,
It's pretty rare, nice to see,, .
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Re: Liberty Cap/Strictipes Variants. [Re: Temerity]
#13317749 - 10/10/10 09:21 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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cool pics, all probably libs tho. i dont even worry about the 2 any more, they are all magic.until i get a scope( which it was brought up at our last mushroom club meeting, purchasing a club scope) i have no way to tell. but i was told to look for fatter brown stems for the strictipes.
that big one you got there has gotta be something different. ive been picking libs for a long ass time and ive never found one like that, i would think its a baeo being that fat!!
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Quote:
i dont even worry about the 2 any more
I don't really, that's why i dumped them all together. Thought it'd stop people pointing pics out, it's hard to tell.
Looking at this post there's a difference in gill density which i've noticed before but whether it's just another weird lib trait or not i don't know, wouldn't be surprised.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/9130647#9130647
The big one has a flattened out stipe that adds to it being a mutation i reckon but i know nothing about baeocystis.
You can make out some more in this lot,
They look weird,,  .
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Re: Liberty Cap/Strictipes Variants. [Re: Temerity]
#13317972 - 10/10/10 10:07 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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so they are actualy flat not fat?? dude those a serious beauties!! could be mutations i guess, but you should send out prints next time just in case.
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Yeah flat, some more than others but it's common with those. Those are the biggest i've seen yet, they're usually shorter and twisted or have other weird lumpy stipe mutations.
I love finding oddities, they always get me excited.
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Re: Liberty Cap/Strictipes Variants. [Re: Temerity]
#13318124 - 10/10/10 10:35 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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The thicker ones are probably not P. semilanceata. I'm pretty sure they are Psilocybe, though. I can see vivid bruising on those.
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Re: Liberty Cap/Strictipes Variants. [Re: jet li]
#13318343 - 10/10/10 11:27 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Maybe a bit lower down, they didn't blue out anymore drying. Dunno if the cap's blue or just dark in that pic.
Best zoom on that group shot i can get,
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Re: Liberty Cap/Strictipes Variants. [Re: Temerity]
#13352562 - 10/18/10 03:39 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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A nicely laid out and comprehensive thread on semilanceata identification Mikey, this should help all the noobs
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Re: Liberty Cap/Strictipes Variants. [Re: Abuse]
#13352655 - 10/18/10 03:59 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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This should probably have its own place in the hunting section of the FAQ. Awesome thread, really.
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Re: Liberty Cap/Strictipes Variants. [Re: German Kahuna]
#13352711 - 10/18/10 04:11 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks, i have a few ideas left yet but it's getting there.
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Re: Liberty Cap/Strictipes Variants. [Re: Temerity]
#13352730 - 10/18/10 04:16 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Maybe some samples of Panaeolus papilionaceus should be included as lookalikes as well. Especially when they have a light coloured cap and a nipple they are sometimes confused with libs by beginners.
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Re: Liberty Cap/Strictipes Variants. [Re: Temerity]
#13352821 - 10/18/10 04:34 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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 Quote:
Mikeyyork said:
Thanks people, it puts my gallery to use.
I need some blue and damaged stipe pics.
These r from last season feel free to use the pics if you wanna. still only found 3 specimin in the same field this year, kinda odd.
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Re: Liberty Cap/Strictipes Variants. [Re: German Kahuna]
#13352982 - 10/18/10 05:03 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Maybe some samples of Panaeolus papilionaceus should be included as lookalikes as well. Especially when they have a light coloured cap and a nipple they are sometimes confused with libs by beginners.
I couldn't find any of the damn things, i need some pics.
Easiest way of explaining those is the lack of pellicle but it's hard explaining how to detect a pellicle on a dry lib so people can easily draw a line between the two species (or pans and libs in general).
So i need to photo/explain a way of bringing the pellicle back to life so it's a more useful tool at narrowing down finds.
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still only found 3 specimen in the same field this year, kinda odd.
That scares me, some UK folk are having similar problems.
I don't mind adding peoples pics but they need to be good quality, clear unique variants/freaks or whatever.
Preferably in their habitat or at least with good natural light.
Yea i'm a fussy c**t,,,  .
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