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mathias said:
Hm, I thought Ms Barrymore always looked like that. Askew.

1st flushes are almost always a tad uneven and sparse. 2nd and 3rd are the biggest producers usually. Unless you have an isolate, there is a whole genetic cluster-fuck going on inside the cake. This gene fruits like this, and that gene fruits like that... I've had a number of cakes that I had to just harvest a bit at a time since pins came ins at such different rates.

Scoot those cakes back from the sides of the SG. 2" back at least. More like 3". I see some blue-ing there from the air draft. That inhibits growth. Blue spots on cakes are bad too, those areas never pin.

Looks good otherwise!

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I was wondering why in the hell my cakes were starting to turn blue when I wasn't even handling them. one cake has blue all over :/ another has some patches. when I redunk the cakes will that help with that problem? Or are the blue areas there to stay?

I just harvested my first 2 shrooms! Only 12g wet lol, but I'll have enough to trip this weekend forsure with growth going at this rate. One other cake is starting to grow nicely and two big pins just popped up in a jar so I'll be dunking that cake when I wake up.

I put my harvested shrooms on a rack with a fan blowing on them, its the best I can do right now for drying. My room has a really low RH so I may be able to dry this way until I get something to dry my harvests properly. I'll post pics when I get up

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Traikun said:
wicked dude, congrats

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Meh, some blue spots recover and some don't. Most of the time they don't. I doubt they actually "recover", but just get filled in with more myc so they appear to.

Mark it as another lesson. Cakes are touchy. Air currents, heavy water-drops, getting too dry or too wet; all these things can blue them. Bad blue-ing usually leads to infection. A tiny bit almost always happens, but it is a sign of error if it persists, grows or happens a lot. Blue on the shroom means loss of growth.

The sweet spot of the SG is the central area about 2" in from all 4 sides. Too close to the sides and well, we see what happens. Keep them in the sweet spot and you'll be golden.

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Thanks for the great tip. I moved em back and one of the cakes (dunk and rolled cake) that had pins that I thought were aborts finally grew a bit when I came home from work.

3 or 4 more jars had some invitro pins so I'll be dunking them when I get up and then my 2 other cakes will be taken out of the dunk and back into the FC. things are moving along quickly! Already looking forward to/planning next grow, just got some more supplies in the mail today



edit: wow moving those cakes back seems to have worked wonders for growth....came back from work and i had some pins turn into some fat shrooms! time to smoke a bowl of dank to celebrate  ill post pics of my FC later when I throw in my 4 dunked cakes, i'll have 8 cakes in there so I'm just waiting on 1 more for some invitro pins and i'll have birthed 9/10 cakes on my first try




definitely going to trip tonight, can't wait. I got some good ass purp to go with it

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mathias said:
Nicey nice!

Those are just spores brother, not a contaminate in the least. Harvest just a tad sooner next time. What strain was that?

Hm, much closer look at that last pic: are you talking about that blue spot in the top left corner? That could be a bruised spot, but it's hard to tell, can't enlarge that pic. That grey smear is just spores, nothing to worry about at all.

A sudden white puff-ball that turns green is what you want to keep a deadly eye on: trichoderma.
Unless your environment is really bad or you're doing something wrong, trich should not show up until flush 4-5 at LEAST. If it's tiny and you catch it fast, it can be dealt with by excising (cutting away) and h2o2 the area.

What you have looks like just a tiny bruise in the top left. Trich is GREEN-green, not the turquoise color or bruising.

Even the spacing of the cakes out. Looks like you need to build another SG. 6 is the max for what you have there. The placement of cakes in a SG is critical to the airflow. If they are too bunched up or unevenly placed, the result is uneven/poor airflow. You might be able to get 2 rows of 4 if you move things over a bit. Everything seems shifted to the right in the SG pic.

Most of the magic of a SG happens when you are not there misting and fanning. Hence all the emphasis on even 1/4" holes all over, 4" of perlite at the bottom, even temps, keeping the SG 6" up off the drip pan and away from walls, curtains, etc etc... Stability and balance are key components here.

Congrats! You beat the shit outta my first grow, no doubt.

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shr said:
had a great first trip last night, I definitely like shrooming. can't even put it into words really



I got sporework's trick or treat special and got a greattt deal, now I have no idea what strain to do next! I've got penis envy, malabar, albino a+, colombian rust, hualta, golden teacher, and another b+. any opinions? i don't know much about the differences between strains

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I'd say finish off all that B+ first. You've done it, you know it, it's decent. Then it's pretty much a toss up between malabar, hualta and GT. They have their slight characteristics but are in the same basic class; fast colonizers and good output without much hassle. Albino A + and Columbian Rust are more fussy. Get really good before you try them. Maybe start an LC of them now and bone up on science.

#1 strain I suggest for starters is Ecuador. The fastest colonizer from spore I've seen so far, good pinsets and most importantly, BIG honking shrooms. As hassle free as any cube I've seen.

Seems to me that there are 3 basic levels of growing:

Easy: B+, PR, EQ, TC, GT, Amaz, Mal, Hua, etc.... the usual suspects.
Great movie.
Stone-makers like ATL 7 are even easier, one could argue...

Hard: Pan. cyans & family, PE, APE, Redspore and the like. Pans are MORE than worth it though. And IME, easier than APE.

Fuck me: Wood-lovers like Psilocybe Azurescens. I'd imagine that one would need an ideal outdoors environment to make cultivation practical.
Otherwise it's just

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mathias said:
And that tote would make a good mono I'd imagine, but not a SG.
This is what you need for a SG:
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=13376577&findingMethod=rr

ATM I'm running two 66 qt and one 50 qt SGs similar to the one in the link. The 50 is a tad small, 4 cakes only or one good bulk slab. Get something in the 60-70 qt range, Daddy says...

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Javadog said:
Hey,

About a year ago, someone quoted RR:

"After harvest, it's a good idea to fill any divots created by picking with fresh casing material. Don't wait for it to colonize, because it rarely will. Don't re-case. Trays can be soaked for a few hours under running water. Just let the faucet fill up the tray and gently run over the sides and down the drain. Use jars of water or rocks to hold the substrate from floating. After four or five hours, most substrates will be re-hydrated.

I like to wait up to a week after picking a flush before doing the above. During this rest time, allow the substrate to dry out a bit, and then soak as above and return to fruiting conditions.
RR "

Good luck,

JD

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shr said:
had a great first trip last night, I definitely like shrooming. can't even put it into words really



I got sporework's trick or treat special and got a greattt deal, now I have no idea what strain to do next! I've got penis envy, malabar, albino a+, colombian rust, hualta, golden teacher, and another b+. any opinions? i don't know much about the differences between strains

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I'd say finish off all that B+ first. You've done it, you know it, it's decent. Then it's pretty much a toss up between malabar, hualta and GT. They have their slight characteristics but are in the same basic class; fast colonizers and good output without much hassle. Albino A + and Columbian Rust are more fussy. Get really good before you try them. Maybe start an LC of them now and bone up on science.

#1 strain I suggest for starters is Ecuador. The fastest colonizer from spore I've seen so far, good pinsets and most importantly, BIG honking shrooms. As hassle free as any cube I've seen.

Seems to me that there are 3 basic levels of growing:

Easy: B+, PR, EQ, TC, GT, Amaz, Mal, Hua, etc.... the usual suspects.
Great movie.
Stone-makers like ATL 7 are even easier, one could argue...

Hard: Pan. cyans & family, PE, APE, Redspore and the like. Pans are MORE than worth it though. And IME, easier than APE.

Fuck me: Wood-lovers like Psilocybe Azurescens. I'd imagine that one would need an ideal outdoors environment to make cultivation practical.
Otherwise it's just

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