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 How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? 
#13165929 - 09/08/10 05:54 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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I just received my JWH-018 in the mail from Zenthetics.com
How do I go about smoking it?
I mean, what's a regular dose?
Can I just put it in my weed pipe?
Do I hold in the smoke?
How long until it starts working?
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: Johnny Depp]
#13165938 - 09/08/10 05:55 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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A simple search revealed:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11805466#11805466
Read through that.
You can just put it in your pipe if you wish.
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: Johnny Depp]
#13166032 - 09/08/10 06:09 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Powder has to be vaped like dmt, plant spice can be packed like a bowl.
Powder dose is WAY low, plant dose is a 1 hitter.
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: Seanfu]
#13166051 - 09/08/10 06:12 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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I used to vape it.
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: KillerSpores]
#13166069 - 09/08/10 06:15 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Is the stuff from the source you listed powder? I saw they have a 1g sample and I was interested, haha.
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: theshroom]
#13166160 - 09/08/10 06:28 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes it's powder.
Is powder harder to measure? I got the 1 gram sample  Is that like one high's worth, or should I split it into doses?
If it has to be vaporized then how do I vaporize the powder without a vaporizer?
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: Johnny Depp]
#13166180 - 09/08/10 06:31 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Remove the source yo.
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#13166229 - 09/08/10 06:40 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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 And then they wonder how people can overdose on that... Research a bit before you do it dude, a common dose is about 5-20 milligrams, even lower when smoked, and you really should have a milligram scale, don't try to eyeball it because it will end up in a nasty overdose.
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: Johnny Depp]
#13166423 - 09/08/10 07:15 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Johnny Depp said:
Yes it's powder.
Is powder harder to measure? I got the 1 gram sample Is that like one high's worth, or should I split it into doses?
If it has to be vaporized then how do I vaporize the powder without a vaporizer?
Your powder will last you FOREVER.
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: Tangich]
#13166437 - 09/08/10 07:17 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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And then they wonder how people can overdose on that... Research a bit before you do it dude, a common dose is about 5-20 milligrams, even lower when smoked, and you really should have a milligram scale, don't try to eyeball it because it will end up in a nasty overdose.
Its really not that hard to eyeball it. Just scoop up a tiny tiny amount roughly 2millimeters by 2 millimeters, toss it into a oiler meth pipe and heat from underneath. Wait till it starts to vapor and inhale slowly till you get a lungfull. Hold for a little bit, exhale. Wait 15 minutes for it to fully kick in before smoking more. Do Not smoke more after 5 minutes thinking its not enough.
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: Johnny Depp]
#13166601 - 09/08/10 07:43 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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How do I go about smoking it?
You're not supposed to smoke it, it's plant feed/aromatic incense. 
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: Libertin]
#13166666 - 09/08/10 07:52 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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"carefully"
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: silas simon]
#13166761 - 09/08/10 08:05 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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i vape it. please use the world's smallest amount if youre new with this, certainly not the amount that you'd normally use with weed. one bowl of this will not lead to a fun experience. just the smallest little pinch you can grab
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: IGholowan88]
#13166807 - 09/08/10 08:11 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Source is a sponsor he is fine :P
OP if you have a tooth pick, us that to scoop this stuff out.... You wannt about 5 mg.....
There are 1000 mg in one gram, people od on as little as 10+ and have HORRIFIC experiences.
I use heavy duty foil and smoke it like people smoke crack or meth on foil...
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: IGholowan88]
#13167135 - 09/08/10 09:00 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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i vape it. please use the world's smallest amount if youre new with this, certainly not the amount that you'd normally use with weed. one bowl of this will not lead to a fun experience. just the smallest little pinch you can grab
A pinch was far too much for my friend. he was puking violently and having an ego loss.
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: Seanfu]
#13167885 - 09/08/10 11:24 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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So I guess I have at least 50 doses in 1 gram? That seems like a lot for $5.
This IS my research. I figured shroomerites would know what's up with JWH-018 if anyone did.
That's interesting about the meth pipe. Is that really a good way to smoke this stuff? Because I can buy one for $5 if it's worth it. Or is tin foil and a straw just as good??
Someone said put a little on top of a bowl of weed, or in a cigarette. But I want to try it by itself first so I know what it does.
I have heard so much about this drug in the news. I just had to try it out for myself.
But don't worry guys, I'm very drug experienced.
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: Johnny Depp]
#13275413 - 10/01/10 03:56 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bump!
Can you eat this? Does it need to be dissolved in a lipid/alcohol like THC?
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: Johnny Depp]
#13275443 - 10/01/10 04:00 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
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But don't worry guys, I'm very drug experienced.
lol famous last words i guess, he hasnt got back
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: hidenseek]
#13275706 - 10/01/10 04:56 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well I love JWH-018 it works great for me
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: Johnny Depp]
#13275756 - 10/01/10 05:09 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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i may have to jump on that. try their sample
it only looks like its a 100mg sample now. unless maybe i am seeing it wrong?
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: speedy_r6]
#13281429 - 10/02/10 10:57 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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aw, yes, you're right, it's only 100mg. It still seems like a lot. I've gotten high 20 times and only used half.
JWH is perfect mixed with weed. You don't need very much of either to get baked. and it's easy to smoke, just put on top of your bowl if you want an extra KICK!
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: Johnny Depp]
#13281478 - 10/02/10 11:07 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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If you have a piece you can just ash in the bowl and put a few specks on top.
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: Luman]
#13281828 - 10/03/10 12:43 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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I remember packing bowl after bowl of this stuff for 4 hours... is overdose actually possible?
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: pfxtc]
#13281968 - 10/03/10 01:28 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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were you packing bowl after bowl of 018, or of something like k2? i dont think you would want to keep going bowl after bowl of straight 018. everyone i know says it hits like a tank if they smoke too much
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: speedy_r6]
#13281977 - 10/03/10 01:30 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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It was plant material but it was high quality stuff.
I was pretty much retarded by the end of the night, but never had any problems.
Is there that big a difference between this and the powder? I didn't even know they sold it in powder.
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: pfxtc]
#13282406 - 10/03/10 05:05 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Is there that big a difference between this and the powder? I didn't even know they sold it in powder.
Like, the difference between smoking salvia leaf vs salvinorin crystals
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: Krash Kharma]
#13282609 - 10/03/10 07:32 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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The sample is 100mg, 100mg is not a gram.
Depending on the potency of that particular batch and your tolerance, that could be anywhere from 5 to 30 doses. Start at a couple of mg, then work your way up. You need to vaporise it rather than smoking it. Try vaping off foil or in a lightbulb, but if you can't do that, put some tobacco/random herbs in a bowl, a thin layer, sprinkle some JWH on top, then another thin layer of herbs on top of that, and smoke it normally - but slowly, don't just 1 hit it.
Edit: Nvm I didn't read the second page, looks like you've already got all that figured out.
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Is there that big a difference between this and the powder? I didn't even know they sold it in powder.
Yes there's a huge difference. 2g of plant matter laced with JWH usually costs the same as a gram of JWH, the plant matter will usually have 15-25mg of JWH on it. So, you're paying $30+ for up to 25mg of JWH when you could get 1000mg of JWH for the same price. Do the math.
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: JesusGreen]
#13282871 - 10/03/10 09:53 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Someone should message me about that sample deal.
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: Johnny Depp]
#13283526 - 10/03/10 01:17 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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aw, yes, you're right, it's only 100mg. It still seems like a lot. I've gotten high 20 times and only used half.
JWH is perfect mixed with weed. You don't need very much of either to get baked. and it's easy to smoke, just put on top of your bowl if you want an extra KICK!
20 times is not very much for half a gram and if you're touching it with the flame youre killing the potency.
If you're using 18 properly it would not give your weed an extra kick, it would be twice as powerful as the bowl of weed itself. Use a meth pipe, learn the secrets of 018
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: Seanfu]
#13283744 - 10/03/10 02:10 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Now I feel like an idjot. Bought five grams plant the other day.
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: pfxtc]
#13291125 - 10/05/10 12:14 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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The plant is a lot safer than the pure powder. Unless you have a scale capable of measuring milligrams...
I don't have a scale. I've been eyeballing the powder on the end of a pipe poker.
Last night I overdosed. I took a hit, and after 5 minutes I didn't really feel that high, so I took another hit. Mistake!
about 20 minutes later the peak comes I felt faint, my body was numb and tingly. I felt hot and cold at the same time, and I took my pulse at 85 bpm resting. It was a little intense. I would have been scared, but I knew I didn't really take that much and I was in no serious danger.
There's nothing to do in this situation other than ride it out. No point in calling 911 or going to the hospital. All they are going to do is let you sit around until it's worn off anyway.
Then you'll just be another statistic the lawmakers use to outlaw this drug.
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: Johnny Depp]
#13300502 - 10/06/10 09:21 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
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The plant is a lot safer than the pure powder. Unless you have a scale capable of measuring milligrams...
There's nothing to do in this situation other than ride it out. No point in calling 911 or going to the hospital. All they are going to do is let you sit around until it's worn off anyway.
Then you'll just be another statistic the lawmakers use to outlaw this drug.
couldnt agree more...especially the last part
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: Johnny Depp]
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: Johnny Depp]
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Johnny Depp said:
The plant is a lot safer than the pure powder. Unless you have a scale capable of measuring milligrams...
I don't have a scale. I've been eyeballing the powder on the end of a pipe poker.
Last night I overdosed. I took a hit, and after 5 minutes I didn't really feel that high, so I took another hit. Mistake!
about 20 minutes later the peak comes I felt faint, my body was numb and tingly. I felt hot and cold at the same time, and I took my pulse at 85 bpm resting. It was a little intense. I would have been scared, but I knew I didn't really take that much and I was in no serious danger.
There's nothing to do in this situation other than ride it out. No point in calling 911 or going to the hospital. All they are going to do is let you sit around until it's worn off anyway.
Then you'll just be another statistic the lawmakers use to outlaw this drug.
Maybe the problem was dosing twice when you know what your typical dose was and not the fact that the drug is dangerous when abused.
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: Johnny Depp]
#13506927 - 11/19/10 01:31 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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how long did it take for your order to come from zenthetics.com? I placed an order yesterday at about 2am and the order is still processing on their website, but, they have already taken my money. I hate to worry about things like 24hrs and still not processed, but, it was $135 and i would really like my expensive product ASAP. BTW, the way to smoke this stuff is to dissolve it in 100% acetone and spray damiana leaves in an HDPE spray bottle. Have done this a few times, but, trying to find a cheaper supplier may have bitten me in the ass.
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: unrealantidote]
#13507130 - 11/19/10 02:25 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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I can't really remember how long it took to get here. They processed the order and sent me an update email. It didn't take too long, or very fast either. Just normal shipping I guess, about a week.
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: unrealantidote]
#13507595 - 11/19/10 05:45 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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how long did it take for your order to come from zenthetics.com? I placed an order yesterday at about 2am and the order is still processing on their website, but, they have already taken my money. I hate to worry about things like 24hrs and still not processed, but, it was $135 and i would really like my expensive product ASAP. BTW, the way to smoke this stuff is to dissolve it in 100% acetone and spray damiana leaves in an HDPE spray bottle. Have done this a few times, but, trying to find a cheaper supplier may have bitten me in the ass.
Why acetone?
I'd try to use everclear or something... food grade.
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: drr]
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Acetone fully evaporates and wont leave a nasty taste in your mouth. It reminds me of smoking weed when prepared this way. I have never smoked it like crack or meth err any of that crap.
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: unrealantidote]
#13507912 - 11/19/10 09:19 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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I would always just take a knife tip and put it in a bowl with some ash. I've smoked it for about a week straight (the powder) nothing bad happened. Also the transition from this back to the good green was smooth.
I didn't overdose because I read about how careful you need to be. People who use this responsibly and do research first should not have a problem.
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: unrealantidote]
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Acetone fully evaporates and wont leave a nasty taste in your mouth. It reminds me of smoking weed when prepared this way. I have never smoked it like crack or meth err any of that crap.
JWH is not very soluble in alcohol. To get the JWH to dissolve, you'll need to add heat and stir, and use a whole lot of everclear. And even when the alcohol evaporates, you still have some water that you'll need to drive off with a dehydrator, or an oven.
Acetone will evaporate completely at room temperature in 15 minutes. Once it's evaporated completely, there's nothing to worry about. It's also quite a bit cheaper.
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: BothHands]
#13508550 - 11/19/10 12:32 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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I can make a instruction set with pictures and recipe for my way of making this if anyone is interested. I will have to wait until my shipment of JWH comes from zenthetics.com before I can take the pictures. BTW I usually let my product dry overnight and not for just 15min to insure that all of the acetone is desolved because the acetone soaks into the foliage and takes a bit longer to dry that way.
Anyone have a good link to a shroom grow guide? I have never grown shrooms before, but, love them and they are very hard to come across in my state.
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: unrealantidote]
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Acetone fully evaporates and wont leave a nasty taste in your mouth. It reminds me of smoking weed when prepared this way. I have never smoked it like crack or meth err any of that crap.
Then you've never had a pure 018 trip
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: speedy_r6]
#13511639 - 11/19/10 10:55 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's very simple: Damiana
check your local tobacco stores. Mix about 14g with 1g JWH, by which you have to first, shake it together, Then, empty it out onto a surface so you can super compact small piles. Put the compacted stuff in a pill bottle and press down when its full. You can then just pour the bottle straight into the bowl but you have to have a screen
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? *DELETED* [Re: Johnny Depp]
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: danvb329]
#13512517 - 11/20/10 02:09 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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danvb329 said:
It's very simple: Damiana
check your local tobacco stores. Mix about 14g with 1g JWH, by which you have to first, shake it together, Then, empty it out onto a surface so you can super compact small piles. Put the compacted stuff in a pill bottle and press down when its full. You can then just pour the bottle straight into the bowl but you have to have a screen
Thats not even close. if you dont dissolve the powder then all youre doing it putting it on top of leaf. if you do that you lose 90 percent of the potency, and regardless of potency loss 1 gram jwh on 14 grams is a cheap ass way to do it. should be 1 for 10 at weakest.
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: Psilicubes]
#13513677 - 11/20/10 11:27 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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I forgot to mention that my weed tolerance is ridiculous after smoking all that JWH. I can smoke all day... almost nothing gets me high. When I quit I was smoking 20+ mg a hit, vaped. JWH should stand for "Jesus!Wow.High."
It has no cross tolerance with weed but is a full agonist to the cb 1 and 2 receptors, so smoking it excessively will numb those receptors so nothing can get you as high that uses the cb 1 and 2 including weed. The same damage could be done if you smoked pure thc all day long.
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: Seanfu]
#13515198 - 11/20/10 05:43 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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It has no cross tolerance with weed
Of course they have a cross tolerance.
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: BothHands]
#13515906 - 11/20/10 08:25 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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It has no cross tolerance with weed
Of course they have a cross tolerance.
post your literature supporting this.
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: Seanfu]
#13516121 - 11/20/10 09:18 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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It has no cross tolerance with weed but is a full agonist to the cb 1 and 2 receptors, so smoking it excessively will numb those receptors so nothing can get you as high that uses the cb 1 and 2 including weed. The same damage could be done if you smoked pure thc all day long.
Wait, do even know what cross tolerance means?
Do you know what self contradiction means?
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: Seanfu]
#13516128 - 11/20/10 09:19 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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It has no cross tolerance with weed
Of course they have a cross tolerance.
post your literature supporting this.
They act on the same receptors.
That's like saying suboxone and morphine don't have a cross tolerance because one's a partial agonist, and one's a full agonist. That's just asinine.
I'm not going to waste my time looking for a source stating that two agonists of the same receptor have a cross tolerance. That's how receptors work.
You need to do some research before you start spouting made up information as fact.
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: BothHands]
#13516796 - 11/20/10 11:44 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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BothHands said:
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BothHands said:
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It has no cross tolerance with weed
Of course they have a cross tolerance.
post your literature supporting this.
They act on the same receptors.
That's like saying suboxone and morphine don't have a cross tolerance because one's a partial agonist, and one's a full agonist. That's just asinine.
I'm not going to waste my time looking for a source stating that two agonists of the same receptor have a cross tolerance. That's how receptors work.
You need to do some research before you start spouting made up information as fact.
How ironic on the last line.
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: Seanfu]
#13516946 - 11/21/10 12:07 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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You truly are an idiot.
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: FrenchMachine]
#13517003 - 11/21/10 12:22 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have scientific fact on my side, thank you.
You were arguing with people who had provided you with actual studies.
Here you go.
Cross tolerance for retards:
http://scientopia.org/blogs/neurodynamics/2010/11/16/the-mechanics-of-cross-tolerance/
And here:
http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/content/271/3/1383.short
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These findings indicate that cross-tolerance develops between delta 9-THC, CP 55,940 and WIN 55,212 and that these agents have some actions in common.
They have a cross tolerance because? They have some actions in common. Being CB1 agonists, for example.
Though the study wasn't done on JWH specifically, you'll find that WIN 55,212 is of the same family as the JWH chemicals.
If you don't know what you're talking about, try not to talk at all.
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: BothHands]
#13517626 - 11/21/10 03:37 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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BothHands said:
I have scientific fact on my side, thank you.
You were arguing with people who had provided you with actual studies.
Here you go.
Cross tolerance for retards:
http://scientopia.org/blogs/neurodynamics/2010/11/16/the-mechanics-of-cross-tolerance/
And here:
http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/content/271/3/1383.short
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These findings indicate that cross-tolerance develops between delta 9-THC, CP 55,940 and WIN 55,212 and that these agents have some actions in common.
They have a cross tolerance because? They have some actions in common. Being CB1 agonists, for example.
Though the study wasn't done on JWH specifically, you'll find that WIN 55,212 is of the same family as the JWH chemicals.
If you don't know what you're talking about, try not to talk at all.
You definitely win and this info is intuitive, but I had never found a shred of scientific literature supporting it and when I switch back to weed I get a much more powerful effect so maybe thats just me.
You're right. It doesn't account for the other chemicals in weed though because as far as I know only the thc is targeting the CBs. Maybe thats why I feel no reduced tolerance whatsoever.
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Re: How Am I Supposed to Smoke JWH-018 ?? [Re: Seanfu]
#13534274 - 11/24/10 11:00 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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ok, so what i have decided.
Those of you that mix 1g jwh with 14g damaina are crazy. And you need Acetone to mix with damaina and for it to turn out right. mixing the powder with the herb without acetone is VERY wasteful.
1g of jwh to 60g damaina is like smoking mersh.
1g of jwh to 50g damaina is like smoking pine weed.
1g of jwh to 40g damaina is like smoking good strain indoor grown weed.
1g of jwh to 30g damaina is like smoking OG Kush.
I have made this stuff in all of the above potency's. I have been smoking weed since i was 15....im 27 now.
Just trust me when I say be careful with this stuff. I have smoked pure jwh and hated it...it was the worst high of my life, very "chemical" feeling and there is such thing as too high. I suggest you do proper research before picking any jwh up and try to smoke it. it can be dangerous if you smoke too much.
I have never felt any ill effects when coming off of my mixtures. Just like quitting smoking weed, its not too hard, you just "miss" the buzz.
Edited by unrealantidote (11/24/10 12:08 PM)
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