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Re: Efficiency comparison - 6qt dubtubs vs 9qt mini monos [Re: Doc_T]
#13126062 - 08/30/10 10:13 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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i did some clear plastic linings in clear tubs. the side pinning was crazy. it almost covered the sides completely and even the bottom.
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Re: Efficiency comparison - 6qt dubtubs vs 9qt mini monos [Re: anonjon]
#13126084 - 08/30/10 10:17 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Oh, very cool- I was hoping somebody had done clear bags vs dark bags.
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Re: Efficiency comparison - 6qt dubtubs vs 9qt mini monos [Re: Doc_T]
#13126202 - 08/30/10 10:34 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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 learning...... I just started my first bulk, 6 qt shoebox, thank goodness I taped. Cool thread mang!!!
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Re: Efficiency comparison - 6qt dubtubs vs 9qt mini monos (results!) [Re: Maharishi_2_U]
#13132434 - 09/01/10 08:34 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Current results as of 9/1/10 Mini monos, second flush is done. Dubtubs have completed flush #1.
Mini monos, yield in grams Tub # Flush 1 Flush 2 1 55 19.3 2 58 70.5 3 35 20.7
Dub Tubs, yield in grams Tub # Flush 1 1 77.6 2 62.3 3 48.9 4 35.9
Already it's evident that the 6qt tubs do a better job in terms of substrate efficiency. And they are space-efficient too. Same footprint in the greenhouse, but they take a lot less room during colonization. I don't usually get more than two flushes- a grower who does might get more out of the deeper mini mono substrate.
This grow went fast enough that I didn't need to mist the dubtubs, but that's not typical, they generally need some spray. The mini monos are pretty much hands-off in the greenhouse. In room air, I would mist about once a day.
So for me and my style and my current setup, it's clear that the 6qt tubs win out over mini monos.
And I'll be taping tubs from now on. I've proven that it makes a difference in some cases at least, and it does no harm. Might help the tubs last longer too.
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Re: Efficiency comparison - 6qt dubtubs vs 9qt mini monos (results!) [Re: Doc_T]
#13133467 - 09/01/10 02:26 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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This thread has been VERY helpful/usefull. Dub tubs it is..... I am also going to try four 6qts in two under bed boxes as a SGFC!!! Thanks for your hard work Doc!!!
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Re: Efficiency comparison - 6qt dubtubs vs 9qt mini monos (results!) [Re: Maharishi_2_U]
#13154289 - 09/06/10 10:59 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hey Doc,
With your Dub-Tubs, do you utilize the lids that came with the "Shoe Boxes" during colonization? Or do you put them in a bag?
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Re: Efficiency comparison - 6qt dubtubs vs 9qt mini monos (results!) [Re: Lakotis]
#13154356 - 09/06/10 11:29 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Both. Put the lid on, put them on a shelf, bag over/around them.
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Re: Efficiency comparison - 6qt dubtubs vs 9qt mini monos (results!) [Re: Doc_T]
#13154380 - 09/06/10 11:41 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ok Doc, That's what I'll do. I had been hoping the lid was tight enough.
Thanks for doing all the leg work!
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Re: Efficiency comparison - 6qt dubtubs vs 9qt mini monos (results!) [Re: Lakotis]
#13154451 - 09/06/10 12:07 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't fill the tubs quite full, there's probably a half inch of space. And I don't seal the bags, if you do you may need to let them breathe a bit every few days.
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Re: Efficiency comparison - 6qt dubtubs vs 9qt mini monos (results!) [Re: Doc_T]
#13155132 - 09/06/10 03:20 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Doc_T said: Current results as of 9/1/10 Mini monos, second flush is done. Dubtubs have completed flush #1.
Mini monos, yield in grams Tub # Flush 1 Flush 2 1 55 19.3 2 58 70.5 3 35 20.7
Dub Tubs, yield in grams Tub # Flush 1 1 77.6 2 62.3 3 48.9 4 35.9
Already it's evident that the 6qt tubs do a better job in terms of substrate efficiency. And they are space-efficient too. Same footprint in the greenhouse, but they take a lot less room during colonization. I don't usually get more than two flushes- a grower who does might get more out of the deeper mini mono substrate.
This grow went fast enough that I didn't need to mist the dubtubs, but that's not typical, they generally need some spray. The mini monos are pretty much hands-off in the greenhouse. In room air, I would mist about once a day.
So for me and my style and my current setup, it's clear that the 6qt tubs win out over mini monos.
And I'll be taping tubs from now on. I've proven that it makes a difference in some cases at least, and it does no harm. Might help the tubs last longer too.
Looks like Mini Mono #2 is a keeper.
One question and I feel like an ass asking it cause i'M 99.99% sure of the answer,but when you say your going to tape the tubs from now on,do you mean taping the bottom 4" to 4.5" or do you mean taping the holes for colonization?
I'm 99.99% sure that you just mean the bottom half of the tubs though.
One more question,and I know I've already read it in one of your posts,but on average how long does it take for your mini mono's/mini MSG's to become fully colonized?
I am going to use a true 2 quarts of spawn to 6 true quarts of coir/verm bulk substrate so a 1:3 spawn/bulk ratio...I'm figuring 5-10 days or somewhere in between.
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Re: Efficiency comparison - 6qt dubtubs vs 9qt mini monos [Re: Mad_Hatter2004]
#13155148 - 09/06/10 03:24 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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DOc ...i envision a trusted cultivator tag for you in the near future
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Re: Efficiency comparison - 6qt dubtubs vs 9qt mini monos [Re: Hologram]
#13155216 - 09/06/10 03:43 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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@MH: Tape the bottoms. No need for taping holes if the thing is bagged.
Nominal quarts are what the OMC uses- get with it or get over it.
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Re: Efficiency comparison - 6qt dubtubs vs 9qt mini monos [Re: Doc_T]
#13155231 - 09/06/10 03:46 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah I felt like an ass asking that,as I was damn near 100% sure you meant just the bottom (how else would they get GE lol).
Sorry man,it's just me dude,I believe in using true volumes...you do what you do,I'll do what I do,no hate,nothing but love!
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Re: Efficiency comparison - 6qt dubtubs vs 9qt mini monos [Re: Mad_Hatter2004]
#13155241 - 09/06/10 03:49 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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All I'm saying is this- you are DELIBERATELY choosing to obfuscate your posts. It's not about love or respect, it's about communication.
Plus, if you use a measured amount of grain in your jars, it's totally convertable any time you need. I use two cups per quart jar = 1/2 a 'true' quart.
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Re: Efficiency comparison - 6qt dubtubs vs 9qt mini monos [Re: Hologram]
#13155281 - 09/06/10 03:57 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Another question/comment 1. My first two 6qt dubs brought an ounce each on flush 1!!! Damned good for my first bulk, again thanks mang!!!! 2. How do you dunk yours??? Or a heavy misting be sufficent???
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Re: Efficiency comparison - 6qt dubtubs vs 9qt mini monos [Re: Maharishi_2_U]
#13155295 - 09/06/10 04:00 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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You're welcome. I generally get an ounce+ for the first flush, you're right on track. I dunk them in the tray- fill it, snap the lid on. Wait, then turn it over and drain well.
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Re: Efficiency comparison - 6qt dubtubs vs 9qt mini monos [Re: Doc_T]
#13155314 - 09/06/10 04:05 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well I'm working with three quart jars filled about 2/3's of the way and three quart jars filled 2/3's each = 2 quarts.
I see no miscommunication going on...all I see is that you say Tomato I say Tomahto type thing going on.
I really don't feel like arguing as you already know my point of view...if not using true measurements for our spawn then all things like spawn:bulk ratio,substrate depth are skewed so we might as well not use true volume for bulk substrate too.So when we say we're using a 9 quart or how ever many quarts of substrate/spawn mixed together we're just blowing farts out our asses as the figures are in no way true.
I mean it just seems so ridiculous to do it that way when we go through all the trouble making sure this bulk substrate ingredient is measured out exactly and that bulk substrate ingredient is measured out exactly.By not using true volume our supposed spawn:bulk ratio and and substrate depth is null and void as it will not be a true 4" or what have you substrate depth.
I was brought up to measure three times,cut once and also brought up being told,if you're going to do something,do it right...not half assed.Sorry,but that was my upbringing so it is fused into my brain.
I am not trying to bewilder anyone Doc_T nor are any of my posts unclear,obscure,or unintelligible.I'm sorry if I do things slightly differently (or extremely differently) from others and yourself but if we all were the same where would the fun and individuality be?
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Re: Efficiency comparison - 6qt dubtubs vs 9qt mini monos [Re: Mad_Hatter2004]
#13155347 - 09/06/10 04:10 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well I'm working with three quart jars filled about 2/3's of the way
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if you're going to do something,do it right...not half assed.
So, it's "about" 2/3 of a jar, and three of those is "about" two actual quarts. I can tell you exactly how many cups of grain are in any tub I build.
Who is half-assing what here?
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Re: Efficiency comparison - 6qt dubtubs vs 9qt mini monos [Re: Doc_T]
#13155378 - 09/06/10 04:18 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm having a good day,I don't feel like arguing Doc_T,believe it or not I actually look forward to reading your posts and all but sometimes you seem like you have stick up your ass dude or you just need to get laid.
Like I said,if we all do everything exactly the same,then where is the fun and individuality?
I am going to go smoke a spliff,I'd like to just forget about this conversation as I would like to continue going on having a good day (which are rare these days for me).No hate or tension Doc as like I said I look forward to reading your posts and watching your experiments so please don't feel like I am trying to hate or cause any tension as that is not my intent.
And,I'm sorry if I have derailed your thread in any way shape or form.
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Re: Efficiency comparison - 6qt dubtubs vs 9qt mini monos [Re: Doc_T]
#13155404 - 09/06/10 04:25 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Doc_T said: You're welcome. I generally get an ounce+ for the first flush, you're right on track. I dunk them in the tray- fill it, snap the lid on. Wait, then turn it over and drain well.
Cheers!!!! Thanks Doc, the tek kix arse, I plan to post my little idea in a copule weeks. 4 six qts in an under the bed dub tub!!!! My idea I guess is that the four tubs will create a stable enviro in the under bed dub tubs..... We'll see. Imma let you boys argue about kitchen utensils now (measuring cups, bad joke? )
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