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 FractalXplora
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 Re: Any tips or corrections on my first Mono Shotgun Hybrid mission? MSH  [Re: Doc_T]
#12965670 - 07/28/10 10:19 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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I can't see any reason why this wont produce as well if not better
than a standard mono.
No polyfill surely isn't a problem when dealing with a huge nicely colonized sub, its very contam resistance one the mycs gotta hold.
Good thread and keep us posted Base.
I think the humidity will sort its self out just like a mono, the sub providing enough moisture.
That hydrometer real nice you sent me Base, works a treat still showing 99% in me shotgun.
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Mad River
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Re: Any tips or corrections on my first Mono Shotgun Hybrid mission? MSH [Re: Base Icks]
#12965833 - 07/28/10 11:20 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Base Icks said:
Lots of us are doing them. They have more fae that your average mono, and you dont have to mess around with poly in your holes or worry about it being to tight to loose etc...
I never had to worry about any of that, nor did I have to drill a billion holes or mess with wax paper, fanning or anything else, but hey to each their own. Good luck.
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talkingwalnut
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Re: Any tips or corrections on my first Mono Shotgun Hybrid mission? MSH [Re: FractalXplora]
#12965842 - 07/28/10 11:22 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've noticed I get way better pinesets if the surface is glistening(light mist)
rather than those water droplets everywhere I usually always have to dab my surface with a paper towel before fruiting
The glisten(light mist) seems to evaporate better also
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 Base Icks
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Re: Any tips or corrections on my first Mono Shotgun Hybrid mission? MSH [Re: Base Icks]
#12965984 - 07/28/10 12:06 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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As long as I can share water with my brothers its all good.
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Doc_T
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Re: Any tips or corrections on my first Mono Shotgun Hybrid mission? MSH [Re: Mad River]
#12965991 - 07/28/10 12:08 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Mad River said:
I never had to worry about any of that, nor did I have to drill a billion holes or mess with wax paper, fanning or anything else, but hey to each their own. Good luck.
I just take 'em out of the bag and set it near a window. It's not hard.
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Base Icks
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Re: Any tips or corrections on my first Mono Shotgun Hybrid mission? MSH [Re: Doc_T]
#12966120 - 07/28/10 12:49 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks for the nice words Fractal.
Glad that hyGometer  is working out for you. They're nice aren't they? Really glad I could help the community out with them.
Edited by Base Icks (08/01/10 03:41 PM)
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sporesmores420
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Re: Any tips or corrections on my first Mono Shotgun Hybrid mission? MSH [Re: Base Icks]
#12966356 - 07/28/10 01:48 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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whats the advantage to useing this over a regular monotub?
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anonjon
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Re: Any tips or corrections on my first Mono Shotgun Hybrid mission? MSH [Re: sporesmores420]
#12966388 - 07/28/10 01:56 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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sporesmores420 said:
whats the advantage to useing this over a regular monotub?
More even evaporation. It also doesn't require as much tweaking as a monotub. People like to brag about their set and forget monotubs, but it's not really easy in practice. Everything needs to be just so for optimal results. The shotgun holes are demonstrating more consistent results. Also it doesn't require any polyfill or a hole saw.
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Doc_T
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Re: Any tips or corrections on my first Mono Shotgun Hybrid mission? MSH [Re: anonjon]
#12966420 - 07/28/10 02:05 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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anonjon said:
Quote:
sporesmores420 said:
whats the advantage to useing this over a regular monotub?
More even evaporation. It also doesn't require as much tweaking as a monotub. People like to brag about their set and forget monotubs, but it's not really easy in practice. Everything needs to be just so for optimal results. The shotgun holes are demonstrating more consistent results. Also it doesn't require any polyfill or a hole saw.
I never got good results with polyfil fc designs, no matter what configuration.
That's how I found this pattern, try and fail and try again.
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13shrooms
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Re: Any tips or corrections on my first Mono Shotgun Hybrid mission? MSH [Re: sporesmores420]
#12966578 - 07/28/10 02:41 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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as long as you have a hygrometer your FC design doesnt matter.
The whole point to any FC is to supply optimal conditions in a controlled environment.
with the larger hole designs the polyfill is your FAE/rH adjuster.
how tight/loose you pack the poly determins the amount of FAE let in and the the amount of rH let out.
The key is to allow the most FAE without losing your desired rH range.
So whatever design FC you have an adjustable analog hygrometer will let you know if you are good. 
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shroomiedoobie
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Re: Any tips or corrections on my first Mono Shotgun Hybrid mission? MSH [Re: Doc_T]
#12966580 - 07/28/10 02:42 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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not a bad idea. my only concern would be is if one tub contam so would the rest because there isn't nothing blocking the rest of the holes on the other tubs. it would make me want to run a air filter in the room all the time too. the kind for a shmuvbox.
Edited by shroomiedoobie (07/28/10 02:44 PM)
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13shrooms
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Re: Any tips or corrections on my first Mono Shotgun Hybrid mission? MSH [Re: shroomiedoobie]
#12966697 - 07/28/10 03:13 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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poly does nothing to filter/block mold/contam spores.
you need .02 micron filteration to do that.
as I stated above poly is just a FAE/rH adjuster. 
a 100% fully colonized substrate is your best bet at a contam barrier. 
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anonjon
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Re: Any tips or corrections on my first Mono Shotgun Hybrid mission? MSH [Re: shroomiedoobie]
#12966718 - 07/28/10 03:18 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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shroomiedoobie said:
not a bad idea. my only concern would be is if one tub contam so would the rest because there isn't nothing blocking the rest of the holes on the other tubs. it would make me want to run a air filter in the room all the time too. the kind for a shmuvbox.
it's a common misperception. noobs afraid to open their tubs.
As everyone here is trying to tell you, fresh air and misting does wonders to keep the substrate healthy and happy. You're not doing it any favors cloistering it.
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Base Icks
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 UDPATED! Mono ShotGun hybrid, MSG =Mission. [Re: anonjon]
#12967186 - 07/28/10 04:47 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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I have a proper hygrometer, and I thought about doing the monotub setup. My smallest hole saw is a 2.5 inch. I figured that I could have done it with just more poly and all that, but I just didn't see the point in not doing this. I'm available to fan and mist 3 times a day, and I already run a shotgun. This took a bit of drilling(i was able to drill them both at once for the most part, so that was nice. )
I saw the mini's and saw a few people doing them bigger sizes. I couldn't find another 110 liter tub, so I decided on two 80 liters( 84.5 US quarts)
I live in a humid environment so I'm not to worried about the loss of humidity, plus I'm around often to mist. I'm hoping these work for these cubes, then might try some edibles in them afterwards.
If these work out I might even convert the 110L shotgun to a hybrid and see how it goes. All I would have to do is take out the perlite and put in the bin liner. Shouldn't be a problem.
Thanks all for reading.
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Mad River
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Re: Any tips or corrections on my first Mono Shotgun Hybrid mission? MSH [Re: 13shrooms]
#12975954 - 07/30/10 11:03 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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13shrooms said:
poly does nothing to filter/block mold/contam spores.
I find that to be utter bullshit, no offense. Clearly the polyfil is a physical barrier to spores. It may be possible, if spore infected air were to be forced through the polyfil, that a mold spore could make it through, but since there is no air being pushed through the polyfil, no mold spore is going to go crawling through it.
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Base Icks
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Re: Any tips or corrections on my first Mono Shotgun Hybrid mission? MSH [Re: Mad River]
#12976006 - 07/30/10 11:20 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Poly has its place in our hobby. Obviously its not a 0.2 micron filter, but most of the time it does what we need it to do. I rarely have a problem with my rye jars. Hell I even used it for some lc jars. I just took a pic today of one that i shook and now has myc growing all over the poly, oops. dont think I'll do that again.
Heres a pic.
And heres a pic of a jar that got raped by some aspergillus
Either way this thread is not titled polyfil, so if you would like to keep discussing it, would you please GTFO Thanks!
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anonjon
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Re: Any tips or corrections on my first Mono Shotgun Hybrid mission? MSH [Re: Base Icks]
#12976278 - 07/30/10 12:41 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Base Icks said:
And heres a pic of a jar that got raped by some aspergillus
If it was growing on the back of your carpet or a label or stamp or something I'd say you were right.
In a brf jar? Trich. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... 
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Fungal growth
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Re: Any tips or corrections on my first Mono Shotgun Hybrid mission? MSH [Re: anonjon]
#12976324 - 07/30/10 12:52 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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i dont understand. what do ducks have to do with trich?
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Base Icks
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Re: Any tips or corrections on my first Mono Shotgun Hybrid mission? MSH [Re: Fungal growth]
#12976514 - 07/30/10 01:53 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Check out the pic though, that shit is BLAAAACK. Nothing green about it. I'm 99.999999% sure that its aspergillus niger.
I accedently removed the lid while handling be fore innoc. it colonised everything except for what the myc got its hands on first.
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anonjon
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Re: Any tips or corrections on my first Mono Shotgun Hybrid mission? MSH [Re: Base Icks]
#12976532 - 07/30/10 01:58 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Base Icks said:
Check out the pic though, that shit is BLAAAACK. Nothing green about it. I'm 99.999999% sure that its aspergillus niger.
no need to call names!
j/k
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