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 One way to stop drink drivers..... 
#12891883 - 07/13/10 11:50 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Government issued 'taxi cards'.
Could be given to anyone 25 and under.
You'll get two uses per month for a free taxi ride within a 10km/5mile radius.
Will it ever happen? FUUCK NO. Lets just fine the drivers more!
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: deXtrous] 1
#12891901 - 07/13/10 11:55 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Or they could just not drive after they've been drinking.
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: ToiletDuk]
#12891903 - 07/13/10 11:56 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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ToiletDuk said:
Or they could just not drive after they've been drinking.
 ! ToiletDuk you're a genius! If only people knew that they were not meant to drive while drunk!
oh wait..
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: deXtrous]
#12891906 - 07/13/10 11:56 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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In Richmond VA during last New Years, a local law firm sponsored a free "taxi" service within a 20 mile radius, which me and a friend utilized. It was actually really nice, they picked us up within 30 minutes of calling and had a really nice Lincoln Towncar.
Also there are a few busses that shuttle people for free from the bars and clubs in Shockoe Bottom to all around the city. It's great cause one of the stops is right in front of my friends house, so we would just get hammered and ride the bus back 4 miles to his house.
Ironically one of the busses was involved in an accident a few weeks ago when a drunk driver plowed into it right in front of my favorite bar... 
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: ToiletDuk] 1
#12891907 - 07/13/10 11:56 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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agreed
i have no sympathy for people who drive while fucked up
if you wanna risk your own life i dont give a shit
but drunk driving is risking other peoples lives as well
and i aint down with that
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: deXtrous] 2
#12891912 - 07/13/10 11:58 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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And to pay for that, the people who dont drink and drive taxes will increase. Drinking is a responsibility, not a right, if you cant drink and know that you shouldnt drive a car, then you are a damn moron.
With this theory, lets give all the thieves a few thousand dollars a month, that way, they wont break into people's houses to steal shit to buy drugs, food, or whatever they spend it on.
And they should find the hell out of the drivers, pay for all the shit that drunks are fucking up, and when they get out of jail, they should have to repay the state for the stay instead of making the people who dont drink and drive pay for their mistakes.
Really come on, stop making excuses for drunks
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: kechlesurf]
#12891920 - 07/13/10 12:02 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Drinking and driving isn't going to go away. So why not give people an option to not do it? Raise fines for people that do get caught with a DUI to pay for a free taxi service.
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: WakeboardrB]
#12891928 - 07/13/10 12:05 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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If they raise fines, which they should, the drunk drivers have a lot more to pay for before they sponsor a free cab ride with the money. I agree it would be nice, but the pople who drink and drive dont care. I have friends who are drunks, who get shit faced and just drive, they dont care about a cab or even if it was free, they just want their car at their house the next morning
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: kechlesurf]
#12891931 - 07/13/10 12:06 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Only the people who dont drink and drive will utilize the taxi service, i mean, what is a 20 dollar cab ride compared to thousands in DUI shit
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: kechlesurf]
#12891939 - 07/13/10 12:08 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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kechlesurf said:
With this theory, lets give all the thieves a few thousand dollars a month, that way, they wont break into people's houses to steal shit to buy drugs, food, or whatever they spend it on.
And they should fine the hell out of the drivers, pay for all the shit that drunks are fucking up, and when they get out of jail, they should have to repay the state for the stay instead of making the people who dont drink and drive pay for their mistakes.
Really come on, stop making excuses for drunks
This.
Or Wake's idea is good too. Have the free taxi service, but jack up fines for DUIs incredibly high and use that to pay for the taxis. That way, A FEW of the drunks would become too intimidated to drive, and the rest could pay for those few.
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: kechlesurf]
#12891946 - 07/13/10 12:10 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Only the people who dont drink and drive will utilize the taxi service, i mean, what is a 20 dollar cab ride compared to thousands in DUI shit
You would be surprised at how many potential drunk drivers that bus service in Richmond has taken off the street every night. DUI arrests fell pretty dramatically after they started offering free rides.
Personally I think every city should have something like that.
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: deXtrous]
#12891951 - 07/13/10 12:12 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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deXtrous said:
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ToiletDuk said:
Or they could just not drive after they've been drinking.
! ToiletDuk you're a genius! If only people knew that they were not meant to drive while drunk!
oh wait..
Well, just because you're 25 and under shouldn't excuse one from having a little common sense.
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: RipVanWinkle]
#12891962 - 07/13/10 12:15 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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The bus service would be a lot cheaper to run. In Richmond they have 3 or 4 old school buses that were most likely donated and I think the drivers are all volunteers. So pretty much the only overhead to run an operation like that is fuel costs.
But each one of those buses can hold 30+ people and they make multiple runs during prime drinking hours. Every time I've used the service, the bus was jam packed.
And even if they don't take you directly to your house, it's a lot better to walk 1 mile instead of 5 or 6.
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: WakeboardrB]
#12891968 - 07/13/10 12:17 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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"One way to stop drink drivers..."
NO MOAR DRINK TYPING!!!
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: WakeboardrB]
#12891974 - 07/13/10 12:18 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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WakeboardrB said:
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Only the people who dont drink and drive will utilize the taxi service, i mean, what is a 20 dollar cab ride compared to thousands in DUI shit
You would be surprised at how many potential drunk drivers that bus service in Richmond has taken off the street every night. DUI arrests fell pretty dramatically after they started offering free rides.
Personally I think every city should have something like that.
I would like to see a sourc on these numbers because everything i have ever read about drunk driving, free cab rides dont change it very much, again, drunk drivers dont think about that, they think they can drive and just want to get home or to another bar
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: WakeboardrB]
#12891977 - 07/13/10 12:20 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Plus tips!
We have a similar system over here Wakeboard. They're called courtesy buses. Little mini buses that can hold around 20 people that deliver drunks home within the area. Problem is a lot of places don't have them.
I didn't know what to do the first time I ever used one.. I thought you were meant to pay but when I found out you didn't have to I slipped the driver a 5 anyway. 
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: Cosmic]
#12891981 - 07/13/10 12:21 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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"One way to stop drink drivers..."
NO MOAR DRINK TYPING!!!
If you're trying to make a joke about the phrase 'drink drivers'... That's what they're called in Australia. so fuck ya!
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: deXtrous]
#12891984 - 07/13/10 12:22 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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deXtrous said:
Plus tips!
We have a similar system over here Wakeboard. They're called courtesy buses. Little mini buses that can hold around 20 people that deliver drunks home within the area. Problem is a lot of places don't have them.
I didn't know what to do the first time I ever used one.. I thought you were meant to pay but when I found out you didn't have to I slipped the driver a 5 anyway.
But you were going to take the cab anyway and pay for it, that is the thing, you werent going to drink and drive in the first place, you were going to take a cab. Im not saying some of the drunk drivers wont take the free ride, but i just dont see it making that big of an effect, there are good to have in college towns,
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: deXtrous]
#12891990 - 07/13/10 12:23 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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deXtrous said:
Quote:
Enso said:
"One way to stop drink drivers..."
NO MOAR DRINK TYPING!!!
If you're trying to make a joke about the phrase 'drink drivers'... That's what they're called in Australia. so fuck ya!
all aboard the Australia failboat!
nah I'm just messin around
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: kechlesurf]
#12892009 - 07/13/10 12:27 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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I surrendered my DL after I nearly killed myself driving under the influence, not booze. I do drink like a fish at this point in life so I choose NOT to drive.
That is all it takes.
People do stupid shit...... PERIOD
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: deXtrous]
#12892010 - 07/13/10 12:27 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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deXtrous said:
Quote:
ToiletDuk said:
Or they could just not drive after they've been drinking.
! ToiletDuk you're a genius! If only people knew that they were not meant to drive while drunk!
oh wait..
THATS A GREAT IDEA LETS START MORE GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS TO ALLEVIATE RESPONSIBILITY FROM SUBSTANCE ABUSERS!
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: Tesla]
#12892049 - 07/13/10 12:36 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Tesla said:
Quote:
deXtrous said:
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ToiletDuk said:
Or they could just not drive after they've been drinking.
! ToiletDuk you're a genius! If only people knew that they were not meant to drive while drunk!
oh wait..
THATS A GREAT IDEA LETS START MORE GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS TO ALLEVIATE RESPONSIBILITY FROM SUBSTANCE ABUSERS!
GUESS WHAT!! THEY already did it.
Courtesy buses.
I was moving into the taxi realm for out of reach areas like house parties and pubs that don't have courtesy buses.
Yes it may be expensive for a shit stink of a country like America who's already in trillions of debt, but Australia on the other hand was in a surpluss a few years ago. Maybe we have some hope.
p.s. fuck ya!
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: deXtrous]
#12892055 - 07/13/10 12:37 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Government issued 'taxi cards'.
Could be given to anyone 25 and under.
that's discriminatory based on age, it's also a poor use of public funds,
if a person has enough cash to go out drinking he best have enough to find
a way back home, that being said, when I drove a cab I had cops stick
people in my car and make me drive them home, I never charged on those rides
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: kechlesurf]
#12892058 - 07/13/10 12:38 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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kechlesurf said:
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deXtrous said:
Plus tips!
We have a similar system over here Wakeboard. They're called courtesy buses. Little mini buses that can hold around 20 people that deliver drunks home within the area. Problem is a lot of places don't have them.
I didn't know what to do the first time I ever used one.. I thought you were meant to pay but when I found out you didn't have to I slipped the driver a 5 anyway.
But you were going to take the cab anyway and pay for it, that is the thing, you werent going to drink and drive in the first place, you were going to take a cab. Im not saying some of the drunk drivers wont take the free ride, but i just dont see it making that big of an effect, there are good to have in college towns,
It won't solve the problem of drunk drivers completely, but even if it takes 1 drunk driver off the road that would have otherwise hurt himself or someone else, then it's a smashing success!
And it certainly doesn't hurt. I personally know of at least 4 people that used to drive to and from the bars while drunk and they don't even think about doing it any more because of the bus service.
And as an added bonus, if you take the bus, you don't need to spend 30 minutes trying to find a fucking parking spot in the city when 20,000 other assholes are trying to do the same thing.
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: deXtrous]
#12892083 - 07/13/10 12:43 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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deXtrous said:
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Tesla said:
Quote:
deXtrous said:
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ToiletDuk said:
Or they could just not drive after they've been drinking.
! ToiletDuk you're a genius! If only people knew that they were not meant to drive while drunk!
oh wait..
THATS A GREAT IDEA LETS START MORE GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS TO ALLEVIATE RESPONSIBILITY FROM SUBSTANCE ABUSERS!
GUESS WHAT!! THEY already did it.
Courtesy buses.
I was moving into the taxi realm for out of reach areas like house parties and pubs that don't have courtesy buses.
Yes it may be expensive for a shit stink of a country like America who's already in trillions of debt, but Australia on the other hand was in a surpluss a few years ago. Maybe we have some hope.
p.s. fuck ya!
Blame the substance abuser instead of trying to put responsibility on a government to alleviate responsibility and risk for their behavior.
Your opinions fucking retarded dude.
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: Prisoner#1]
#12892092 - 07/13/10 12:45 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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deXtrous said:
Government issued 'taxi cards'.
Could be given to anyone 25 and under.
that's discriminatory based on age, it's also a poor use of public funds,
if a person has enough cash to go out drinking he best have enough to find
a way back home, that being said, when I drove a cab I had cops stick
people in my car and make me drive them home, I never charged on those rides
Discrimination - maybe.
Would you also call it discrimination if I told you in Australia the legal limit for drivers is 0.06 unless you're under 20, where it is 0.00?
Younger drivers are more inexperienced and need initiatives similar to this, as flawed as it may be.
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: Tesla]
#12892103 - 07/13/10 12:47 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Tesla said:
Blame the substance abuser instead of trying to put responsibility on a government to alleviate responsibility and risk for their behavior.
Your opinions fucking retarded dude.
If it's so retarded, as I said, why are there similar government based programs in effect right now? And as Wakeboard said they've succeeded in reducing the rate of drink drivers in those areas.
Blame has been put on the substance abuser - they're called arrests and fines. Does it work? NO
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: deXtrous]
#12892127 - 07/13/10 12:53 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't think they are affiliated with any gov't organization. I believe they are sponsored by local businesses and donations.
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: deXtrous]
#12892131 - 07/13/10 12:54 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Drunk drivers should be charged with a class A felony and have their licenses taken away from them for up to 10 years. Fuck people who drive drunk. Fuck them right in their asses.
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: Kada]
#12892140 - 07/13/10 12:56 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Jesus Christ guys. WE ALL KNOW DRUNK DRIVERS ARE BAD AND SHOULD BE PUNISHED! That's something we don't need to talk about any more in this thread.
This is about reducing drunk drivers by giving them an alternative to driving.
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: WakeboardrB]
#12892143 - 07/13/10 12:56 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't think they are affiliated with any gov't organization. I believe they are sponsored by local businesses and donations.
Don't know about where you're from but where I'm from they're funded by the council. I would post a link to my local council website but I don't want to reference my location in any way, but it's out there.
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: WakeboardrB]
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WakeboardrB said:
Jesus Christ guys. WE ALL KNOW DRUNK DRIVERS ARE BAD AND SHOULD BE PUNISHED! That's something we don't need to talk about any more in this thread.
This is about reducing drunk drivers by giving them an alternative to driving.
Most people who drink and drive are repeat offenders even when they get caught. Taking their licenses away from them for 10 years would really help the problem. I'm sure there would be some idiots willing to chance it but not many. My idea would help a lot more than a free taxi service of any kind. The punishment is not nearly enough to deter people from driving drunk as is. Lock them up with murderers because thats what they potentially are.
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My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: Kada]
#12892185 - 07/13/10 01:05 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Class A Felony????
That is pure rubish?? Put MORE non violents in pen, teaching them to be violent. You voted for bush BOTH times I bet.... NE Indiana huh???? Lol Fort Wayne is full of assholes.
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: Maharishi_2_U]
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Driving drunk is a violent crime imo. Fort Wayne is full of drunk drivers and we have way to many people getting killed by them. I know way to many people who have died from drunk drivers. I say it's a violent crime because you know what happens when you drive drunk and get in wrecks? Violence and dead people. Like someone doesn't know that when they put their keys in their car when they are drunk they are putting everyone else on the road at risk. I don't care if your drunk, you should have known better. People die when drunk drivers are on the road. Thats serious. A serious crime should have serious consequences. People die because of it. That's serious enough. It's not victimless and it isn't harmless.
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: Kada]
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Driving drunk is a violent crime imo. Fort Wayne is full of drunk drivers and we have way to many people getting killed by them. I know way to many people who have died from drunk drivers. I say it's a violent crime because you know what happens when you drive drunk and get in wrecks? Violence and dead people.
Say you were at a bar - had a few drinks - feel okay to drive as if you're under the limit.
You get pulled over
You blow a point over the limit.
Do you deserve to get your licence stripped for 10 years?
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: Kada]
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So what about all the drunk drivers that have never gotten in a wreck? Should they be classified as violent offenders too?
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: deXtrous]
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Discrimination - maybe.
for 25 and under only it's discrimination especially since people over 25
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: WakeboardrB]
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Jesus Christ guys. WE ALL KNOW DRUNK DRIVERS ARE BAD AND SHOULD BE PUNISHED! That's something we don't need to talk about any more in this thread.
This is about reducing drunk drivers by giving them an alternative to driving.
execution is an alternative to driving drunk
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: deXtrous]
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Driving drunk is a violent crime imo. Fort Wayne is full of drunk drivers and we have way to many people getting killed by them. I know way to many people who have died from drunk drivers. I say it's a violent crime because you know what happens when you drive drunk and get in wrecks? Violence and dead people.
Say you were at a bar - had a few drinks - feel okay to drive as if you're under the limit.
You get pulled over
You blow a point over the limit.
Do you deserve to get your licence stripped for 10 years?
I carry a Breathalyzer that I bough from gas station for 5 bucks. So should everyone who has had a few and intends to drive later. It would clear up any confusion. If you drink that often then you should be prepared.
http://www.drugtestinganswers.com/buy-alcohol-breathalyzer-breath-tests-sale/
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My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: WakeboardrB]
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So what about all the drunk drivers that have never gotten in a wreck? Should they be classified as violent offenders too?
Yes.
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: Kada]
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Driving drunk is a violent crime imo. Fort Wayne is full of drunk drivers and we have way to many people getting killed by them. I know way to many people who have died from drunk drivers. I say it's a violent crime because you know what happens when you drive drunk and get in wrecks? Violence and dead people.
Say you were at a bar - had a few drinks - feel okay to drive as if you're under the limit.
You get pulled over
You blow a point over the limit.
Do you deserve to get your licence stripped for 10 years?
I carry a Breathalyzer that I bough from gas station for 5 bucks. So should everyone who has had a few and intends to drive later. It would clear up any confusion. If you drink that often then you should be prepared.
http://www.drugtestinganswers.com/buy-alcohol-breathalyzer-breath-tests-sale/
You think those things are accurate?
Lets say it gave you a false reading and you still got caught. Do you deserve the 10 years? Way too harsh in my opinion.
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10 years without a license because you can't be trusted to drive sober? Not harsh at all. Keeps you safe from yourself and everyone else safe from you. It's not hard to not drink and drive. I don't drink and drive at all. I don't drink 1 beer and go drive. If I have a beer I wait an hour at least. I don't drink that much tho, so it would be very intentional of me to actually get behind the wheel drunk.
I have 0 respect for people who drink and drive. A lot of people I know have dui's and think it's a funny little joke. I think of it as them almost killing someone. Drunk drivers are one of the most dangerous people in the world. The fucked up thing is it's simple to avoid drinking any driving. Most people just don't care enough because the law isn't harsh enough. Take their license away for a long ass time and make them do community service the whole time it's taken away. Fuck yes they would deserve it. It directly causes death and violence.
I got my license taken away for almost a year for getting busted with a bag of weed at a party when I was 18. My sister in law got drunk, drove her truck through downtown hitting cars and almost hitting people, then ran into a pole and totaled her truck. She got her license taken away for only 120 days. She had to do less community service and less AA meetings than I did. WTF is up with that? She should still be hitching a ride to work and that happened 4 years ago.
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I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do." -Robert A. Heinlein
"There is no need for temples, no need for complicated philosophies.
My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama
Live long and prosper.
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: Kada]
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: Kada]
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10 years without a license because you can't be trusted to drive sober? Not harsh at all. Keeps you safe from yourself and everyone else safe from you. It's not hard to not drink and drive. I don't drink and drive at all. I don't drink 1 beer and go drive. If I have a beer I wait an hour at least. I don't drink that much tho, so it would be very intentional of me to actually get behind the wheel drunk.
I have 0 respect for people who drink and drive. A lot of people I know have dui's and think it's a funny little joke. I think of it as them almost killing someone. Drunk drivers are one of the most dangerous people in the world. The fucked up thing is it's simple to avoid drinking any driving. Most people just don't care enough because the law isn't harsh enough. Take their license away for a long ass time and make them do community service the whole time it's taken away. Fuck yes they would deserve it. It directly causes death and violence.
I got my license taken away for almost a year for getting busted with a bag of weed at a party when I was 18. My sister in law got drunk, drove her truck through downtown hitting cars and almost hitting people, then ran into a pole and totaled her truck. She got her license taken away for only 120 days. She had to do less community service and less AA meetings than I did. WTF is up with that? She should still be hitching a ride to work and that happened 4 years ago.
Lol I hear ya.
A mate got blew 0.06 which here is considered low range. He got a $250 and just had to attend a driving class.
Another mate around the same time got done for having an extra passenger in the car (we have a law that while on your provisionals you can't have more than 1 passenger past a certain time). He got a $450 fine and 3 points off his licence. Biggest crock of shit.
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: Kada]
#12892386 - 07/13/10 01:50 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Soooo how about the bartender that served the drinks, or the establishment itself???
Your logic is neo-conservative and flawed.
So, you feel that drivers whom are otherwise impaired ie: cellphone use, age, distracted by radio/in dash dvd....
Explain that to me. I do NOT drive PERIOD, so I never put anyone at risk.
Explain further how simply not having state permission to operate machinery stops someone who honestly gives two shits about YOU or anyone else.
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: deXtrous]
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What are drink drivers? Do we have iced tea driving around?
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: Maharishi_2_U]
#12892441 - 07/13/10 02:00 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm done with this conversation. Anything past what I said doesn't need to be said. People are responsible for the dip shit things they do all on their own, and I think drunk driving is the biggest dip shit thing to do. Nothing you can do in your car even comes close to the intentionally drunk idiot who got in their car after drinking. Not one single dangerous thing you mentioned is even remotely close to drunk driving. Anything you mentioned can be dangerous yes, but nothing is more intentionally life threatening than a drunk driver. Drunk driving IS intentional. I don't care what excuse you have. I'm sitting here drinking a beer typing this. If I got a call from the hospital telling me that my wife was there having a heart attack I would find someone to take me. Drinking and driving is completely 100% avoidable yet somehow idiots everywhere find it unavoidable. That's a bunch of bullshit.
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I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do." -Robert A. Heinlein
"There is no need for temples, no need for complicated philosophies.
My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama
Live long and prosper.
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: deXtrous]
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A mate got blew 0.06 which here is considered low range. He got a $250 and just had to attend a driving class.
in the US .02 can get you a DUI/DWI even though the average limit is .08
for a DUI, the cop simply has to articulate that you made conditions
unsafe, if your under 21 you can get it for any quantity of alcohol in your system
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: OutThisLife]
#12892477 - 07/13/10 02:10 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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What are drink drivers? Do we have iced tea driving around?
I've learnt it's an Australian term used for what you stupid yanks called drunk driving.
http://www.google.com/search?q=drink+driving
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: deXtrous]
#12892495 - 07/13/10 02:15 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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do you guys also call drunks, drinks?
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: Kada]
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I'm done with this conversation. Anything past what I said doesn't need to be said. People are responsible for the dip shit things they do all on their own, and I think drunk driving is the biggest dip shit thing to do. Nothing you can do in your car even comes close to the intentionally drunk idiot who got in their car after drinking. Not one single dangerous thing you mentioned is even remotely close to drunk driving. Anything you mentioned can be dangerous yes, but nothing is more intentionally life threatening than a drunk driver. Drunk driving IS intentional. I don't care what excuse you have. I'm sitting here drinking a beer typing this. If I got a call from the hospital telling me that my wife was there having a heart attack I would find someone to take me. Drinking and driving is completely 100% avoidable yet somehow idiots everywhere find it unavoidable. That's a bunch of bullshit.
Everything you've said here didn't need to be said. We all hate drunk drivers. Preaching to the fuckin choir dude.
So what harm could possibly come from giving people a cheap and easy option to not drive when they go out to the bars? It's worked great in Richmond so far, so much that they've actually increased the number of vehicles to handle all of the people that want to use the service.
Like I said, even if it takes one drunk drive off the road that otherwise would have hurt themselves or someone else, then it's a fucking huge success.
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: Prisoner#1]
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do you guys also call drunks, drinks?
No, 'drink driving' is just a common term here. What else could it implicate?
When you say you're stoned, do people assume you just got hit with a rock?
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: WakeboardrB]
#12892566 - 07/13/10 02:31 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Please do that it can't hurt. But I was called out for not contributing with an idea to stop drunk drivers. I gave my idea and someone was arguing that I was wrong. I argued back with logic and made a lot more sense than the person posting to me. Everything I said DID need to be said and I'm glad I said it. I think it's the best damn idea in the thread on how to deter drunk drivers. Take their licences and make punishment a shit load harder.
I think my point is very valid to the topic at hand. It's super awesome that I can say my peace on the whole thing while giving good advice on how to help stop the violence and deaths from idiots that can't control themselves.
Yes free taxi rides would be neat. Do I need to pay more on my taxes for idiots? No. That's right where the money would come from.
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I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do." -Robert A. Heinlein
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My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama
Live long and prosper.
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: Kada]
#12892578 - 07/13/10 02:34 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Why don't they just combine the two ideas?
Raise fines for people caught drink driving
Use the money to give free taxi's to pissed idiots triyng to get home.
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: Kada]
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Please do that it can't hurt. But I was called out for not contributing with an idea to stop drunk drivers. I gave my idea and someone was arguing that I was wrong. I argued back with logic and made a lot more sense than the person posting to me. Everything I said DID need to be said and I'm glad I said it. I think it's the best damn idea in the thread on how to deter drunk drivers. Take their licences and make punishment a shit load harder.
I think my point is very valid to the topic at hand. It's super awesome that I can say my peace on the whole thing while giving good advice on how to help stop the violence and deaths from idiots that can't control themselves.
Yes free taxi rides would be neat. Do I need to pay more on my taxes for idiots? No. That's right where the money would come from.
You are, imho, a soap boxer. Just like all the other neo-conservative fucks. Actually it has been proven that the elderly and those texting/talking/gps while driving are as or more distracted than an adult male after consuming 4 beers in two hours.
Facts
Not my Napoleanesque ranting bullshit.
To the OP
Please excuse the moron yanks, we are not all ignorant gangster wannabes...
Come on Ft. Wayne, no debacle?
Just rhetoric based on one mans opinion.
Convince me, or you are just another moron spouting propaganda.
be blessed
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I will not tell your wife that in your family booze runs thicker than blood.
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: Maharishi_2_U]
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Your special.
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My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama
Live long and prosper.
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: deXtrous]
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do you guys also call drunks, drinks?
No, 'drink driving' is just a common term here. What else could it implicate?
When you say you're stoned, do people assume you just got hit with a rock?
after I asked I went to the link and actually found several definitions
that defined drink driving, it just seems a little strange
and to answer your question, yes... because marijuana is the devil!
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: Maharishi_2_U]
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You are, imho, a soap boxer. Just like all the other neo-conservative fucks. Actually it has been proven that the elderly and those texting/talking/gps while driving are as or more distracted than an adult male after consuming 4 beers in two hours.
calm down little fella, it's just the intarwebz
and I for one being an adult male and shitfaced drunk after 4 beers, I'm
intoxicated to the point I cannot drive after 2 beers, my limit is
normally one beer per week so all that crap that's been proven is just
subjective garbage, kids tend to text more than old people while driving
does that mean kids texting are safer or less safe than drunk old people
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: Maharishi_2_U]
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Looking through your posts I have gathered that you are a drunk and are just taking my ideas as a threat. You attack people in almost all of your threads and think that it makes you look smart even when you are not actually contributing to the thread at all. 
2 beers gets me pretty buzzed. I couldn't drive if I drank 4 in 2 hours.
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I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do." -Robert A. Heinlein
"There is no need for temples, no need for complicated philosophies.
My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama
Live long and prosper.
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: Kada]
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Lol no you are no threat to me at all sir/maam.
Please pardon my posting style, I tend to be a bit harsh, it is how I talk to people. I am what I am. It is far to bad that I can not properly express emotion via keypad.
I am a nice guy, but a debater and seeker of truth. I post in different styles in different forums, as the case may be. I am terribly sorry you were offended, I was offended by your propaganda, so ittseems we are even.
As for my attacking, are you THAT insecure? Again my appologies. When someone postssin a masculine fashion I assume I am expected to reply in the same manner. Please read further, you will see I am not rude, not nice, just boredcertified. 
As to my intellect level, you are correct, I have only a miniscule education, and lack logic, as well as communication skills.
However, I DO have the ability and clarity to validate my points.
My deepest appologies. IMO It is because of debates like this, that the Americas are in the present condition.
Social experiment,
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Re: One way to stop drink drivers..... [Re: Maharishi_2_U]
#12895750 - 07/14/10 01:29 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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hey you wankers. i'm not saying that I agree with any kind of alcohol-fueled intoxication whilst driving, but boardcertified has helped me with a specific situation I am in, and has given enough helpful information to keep me from from possibly ruining a number of substrate jars due to ill advice from other people:
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boredcertified said:
Easy answer....
I am JUST getting to my first mono, I have birthed some where around 500 pf cakes (give or take) in the last 7-8 months. I fucked up quite a few due to my personal need to experiment and always question truths.
My answer to your question OP is this:
Within the cakes I have ran according to pf tek protocol, flipping them has caused no ill effects. I found it was beneficial to a percentage.
Good luck
be blessed
..and for all you space ghost fans.. check out this photo of Brak and Zorak.. 
And no this is not off topic, due to the fact that the man that drew this was caught drunk driving
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Maharishi_2_U
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Registered: 10/21/09
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Loc: Front Range, CO
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