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Yeah I'm sure you're right. It would be likely about one or two percent more than I suspect I'm being lied to.
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LOL
i know you were bing sarcastic. 
first i think that the reptilian beings could be real, ive never seen it dismissed or proven. maybe its just part of our collective subcon 
that was never the point of the video and this thread though 
Steve Willner is trying to show us synchronism in movies. when he gets a little far fetched he'll admit it. i dont see him pushing fear on us though 
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i feel a little confused...i think? 
but i think that video was kinda supporting some of what I was saying (i can't refresh myself on the vid right now, and i only saw the first half so far)...
which is: it's there, but it doesn't necessarily imply any of the meanings that people can attach to it...which can get awfully ridiculous
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Threads like these make me realize how fortunate I am to be a mystic. Middlestone mind indeed.
Indeed 
Hey, you're alright for a mystic. Mystics don't usually agree with me on this point. Kudos to you spamhead
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I've found, for myself, that synchronicity (and ESP, for that matter) really just boils down to observation.
I am really good at predicting things. I can guess what people are going to say (or type if it's an online conversation) or do -- I get these feelings (intuition i guess) and sometimes I say something, other times I don't. I've learned that if I don't say anything, nobody will believe me later... so now I just go with my urges when it comes to this type of stuff.
I don't really understand how I do it, but I don't think it's some magical power -- anybody can do it. If you're observant enough, you'll notice a pattern with people. Also, with synchronicity not only is it attention to detail, but being able to take something from every situation. For example, we never would have met if my car hadn't broken down that day and I was late to my appointment -- some say optimisim, some say synchronicity, it all boils down to having a positive outlook in life and knowing that everything just IS, and you can either work with it, or bitch about it.
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Bingo!
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i dont believe in coincidence
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"Chance is but a name for Law not recognized"
^ some shit i found somewhere. seems reasonable enough
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I have never really considered the idea of synchronicity, I tend to side with coincidence. Mostly because I have never experienced any coincidence with a meaningful connection (or noticed).
I will attempt to look for it more often in the future and see if my original belief holds up.
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that's the thing...it's not necessarily meaningful, except to go to show that there is some very strange geometry or at least interconnectedness to everything...at least imo
i've seen what happens when people put too much meaning into syncronicities....they often take off walking down the road barefoot to fulfill some higher task, or think demons are after them, or develop a messiah complex
I can't say I've never experienced syncronicities so outrageous that it was hard not to find meaning in them, but I try to see it as merely a strange blessing to notice them, much like having a sense of humor, or getting to catch the sunset at an opportune moment. IMO any interpreted meaning would probably consist largely of self-indulgence, but I guess ya never know
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I don't tend to outright disregard ideas due to physical immeasurability.
Until we become omniscient, we will always be lacking tools of measurement.
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I think a lot of the recognition of synchronistic events stems from the idea that everything happens for a reason, and that if you are able to take the positive out of any situation, it is really easy to say that it was synchronicity. Humans are creatures of habit and tend to follow patterns -- our minds seek patterns and order... pretty interesting.
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I agree. It's there but it's involved in every action and process. The true believer makes notice of certain things that support his/her beliefs or insecurities and then creates a mystical belief around something that is as common as breathing.
Recently I bought a new car. I though about it a lot and when I thought about it I noticed the same make parked or driving by. I'd never noticed that car before. Now it was everywhere. Turns out there are more of this make in town then any other car. Everyone I told laughted and said "duh". I had never given a shit and so never noticed.
Oh please. What you are describing is not synchronicity. Synchronicity occurs when inner psychical events occur simultaneously with thematically identical outer physical events. The classic example of Jung's was the tapping on his consulting room window by a Rose chafer, the closest thing in Switzerland to the dung beetle mythologized in ancient Egypt, at the same moment that his patient was describing a golden scarabeus beetle.
What you are describing is similar to my own experiences of seeing people who have left my life through circumstances beyond my control, including death. This is a common hallucination of separation and bereavement. I made the mistake of including such a car association with one of the 'signs' that I had met my 'soul mate.' She too drove a Fiat 850 Spider. There weren't many on the road at any time on the east coast. That wasn't synchronicity either, it was a coincidence of sorts, but strictly speaking, not a 'meaningful coincidence' partaking of the "Acausal Connecting Principle." And, the woman was my deranged ex-wife, not my soul-mate (as I am just strange, but not deranged).
All manner of telepathy which occurs in simultaneity, which means that there isn't even the tiniest of time-lags, which means that simultaneity means 'faster than light-speed,' implies a whole different paradigm of Reality. Synchronicity is related to such simultaneity. In principle, magick, divination, probably prayer, and things which speak to mind and matter being integrally related, or even two sides of the same thing, can be seen to be based on the "Acausal Connecting Principle," AKA, synchronicity. You gotta filter out mere association, programming and common coincidence to see this.
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Oh please.
Dat's right you better say please when digging through old and done threads. I've moved on. You know, I was just thinking about you just when I seen this shit.
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Yeah, yeah...like Black-White Frank Gorsham wrestling with White-Black Frank Gorsham in that old Star Trek.
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I think there are different phenomenons going on here which people both pass off as sychnonicity.
In my opinion, sychonicity is only present when it is a manifestation of the universe, and not your mind.
Example 1: Icelander's Car - It is in his mind a lot, so he notices it every where. This is just a result of his mind and what he is focusing on. This is not what I would consider synchonicity.
I consider it synchronicity when you had no choice in it, it just happened to you, and it had nothing to do with what you are thinking.
Example 2:
At the end of my third year at university my TA's in one invited us for some drinks at a place called Thompson house. I had never heard of it in 3 years of being at my university (Probably because it is for grad students mostly).
The day after I go there I am standing outside the library, with probably 40 other people taking study breaks around me. One guy walks strait up to me (without asking anyone else) and asks "hey man, do you know where Thompson house is?"
I responded "yesterday I didn't, but today I do"
That is synchronicity to me. My mind had no say in that guy choosing me to ask where Thompson house is....
Or did it?
Did the universe draw together two minds which had the same ideas in them?
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This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and affection for a few persons nearest us.
Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole nature in its beauty.
Nobody is able to achieve this completely but striving for such achievement is, in itself, a part of the liberation and a foundation for inner security."
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Example 2:
At the end of my third year at university my TA's in one invited us for some drinks at a place called Thompson house. I had never heard of it in 3 years of being at my university (Probably because it is for grad students mostly).
The day after I go there I am standing outside the library, with probably 40 other people taking study breaks around me. One guy walks strait up to me (without asking anyone else) and asks "hey man, do you know where Thompson house is?"
I responded "yesterday I didn't, but today I do"
That is synchronicity to me. My mind had no say in that guy choosing me to ask where Thompson house is....
Or did it?
Did the universe draw together two minds which had the same ideas in them?
Or pure coincidence. How may things like that don't happen in your days and weeks? Sooner or later you are bound to land on on your roulette number.
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Icelander said:
Recently I bought a new car. I though about it a lot and when I thought about it I noticed the same make parked or driving by. I'd never noticed that car before. Now it was everywhere. Turns out there are more of this make in town then any other car. Everyone I told laughted and said "duh". I had never given a shit and so never noticed.
Good example.
The Universe has so many possibilities that coincidences are bound to happen all the time. It's fun to play with sometimes when you notice them, and shit seems synchronized somehow, but it's probably just in your head.
Semi-related... you ever notice how when you're listening to music, say in a car, and you're watching somebody walking - that it sometimes seems like they're walking to the beat that you're listening to, even if there's no way they can hear it?
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