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 Think its a humidity prob.(pics included) 
#12752276 - 06/16/10 02:21 PM (3 years, 3 days ago) |
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Well this is my first time and these are the first mushies to grow. I had to birth this cake early because there was a shroom growing fairly big inside of the incubation jar.(i picked off the one from inside the jar, dunked for 24 hrs, and rolled) The newly grown shrooms that formed inside the FC are kinda scaly and they have a bit of white on the caps. Also the smaller one has a cracked cap. I think it is from low humidity. Could a low room temperature cause low humidity?( mine probly averages only 65 degrees) Or could i be spraying too often, and over-hydrating them?(i spray and fan 3-6 times a day)
Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
Here are some pics
---you can see the crack well in this one below. also the white fuzz is normal right?
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Re: Think its a humidity prob.(pics included) [Re: DARK-SIDE]
#12752291 - 06/16/10 02:24 PM (3 years, 3 days ago) |
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Low temp won't cause low rh... a higher temp could cause it to dry out faster and have a lower rh. Either way, what type of fc do you have? Do you have a hygrometer that is calibrated?
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Re: Think its a humidity prob.(pics included) [Re: DARK-SIDE]
#12752300 - 06/16/10 02:25 PM (3 years, 3 days ago) |
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How is your FC setup? Does not look like you are using perlite. I would suggest a SGFC(Shot gun fruiting chamber) with 4 inches of perlite that has been rinsed and strained of excess water but still moist.
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Re: Think its a humidity prob.(pics included) [Re: DARK-SIDE]
#12752327 - 06/16/10 02:30 PM (3 years, 3 days ago) |
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I would say the RH is low. How are you supplying humidity to your FC?
Is the verm that the cake is sitting on green or is it the picture? If it is green you are not going to get healthy shrooms from that cake.
65f is fine it will help keep contams away and your shrooms will be meatier but they won't grow as fast.
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Re: Think its a humidity prob.(pics included) [Re: DARK-SIDE]
#12752340 - 06/16/10 02:35 PM (3 years, 3 days ago) |
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yea, appears to be low humidity.
low room temp isn't your problem here
it looks like you were spraying a little too much water on the shrooms themselves as well. try using less water when you spray, more of a light mist if anything.
the white fuzz looks to be normal mycelial growth
also, i just noticed something, do you even have perlite in your FC?
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Re: Think its a humidity prob.(pics included) [Re: FatChicksNcoke]
#12752371 - 06/16/10 02:44 PM (3 years, 3 days ago) |
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i have a dual chambered FC made from an old cooler. and no i dont have perlite in there, the containers are sitting on top of a wire mesh type thing to keep them off the water. so you think i should replace that wire mesh with perlite and that will help me out? also i always spray with the divider down so i never spray directly on to the cakes.
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Re: Think its a humidity prob.(pics included) [Re: FatChicksNcoke]
#12752385 - 06/16/10 02:46 PM (3 years, 3 days ago) |
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don't use that vermiculite under your cakes for humidity, make sure you get some perlite and make a shotgun fruiting camber dont just have water in the bottom, standing water make contams. look a shotgun tek up in the search. Oh and keep misting like you are...Good Luck!
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Re: Think its a humidity prob.(pics included) [Re: DARK-SIDE]
#12752392 - 06/16/10 02:47 PM (3 years, 3 days ago) |
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In my opinion scrap the cooler and build yourself a SGFC with 4 inches of moist perlite for humidity.
Look at part 3 of RR's video to see construction and setting up
http://www.mushroomvideos.com/BRF-Pf-Tek
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Yes definitely get a better FC set up, put your cakes on lids or tinfoil, misting your cake directly will not harm them just don't drown them(light misting and fanning will help create pinning).
What type of light and how much light are they getting?
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Re: Think its a humidity prob.(pics included) [Re: CH HELL]
#12753173 - 06/16/10 05:27 PM (3 years, 3 days ago) |
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Yeah, it's not a over-watering problem. I over-watered mine once, on my first flush. If you overwater, the fruits will be TINY. I used to have a pic of a fully grown fruit that was smaller than a dime. Got paranoid and deleted it...
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Re: Think its a humidity prob.(pics included) [Re: CH HELL]
#12756214 - 06/17/10 03:05 AM (3 years, 2 days ago) |
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alright i will build a sgfc then tomorrow for them. they get around 12 hrs of light a day and its from compact florescent bulbs i put in the room light on the ceiling where the fc is. it isnt very bright though. maybe i need to get a brighter light and put it a bit closer to the fc. so is that PF tek that tells you to build a dual chambered fc a bit out of date then?
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Re: Think its a humidity prob.(pics included) [Re: DARK-SIDE]
#12756508 - 06/17/10 05:00 AM (3 years, 2 days ago) |
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There are many different types of fruiting chambers.
Build the shotgun terrarium. I've heard nothing bad about it and it's not expensive. With your fanning and misting it should work great.
I've seen some teks here that utilize other fruiting chambers. Some of them might have been coolers, so you might want to look around before you totally dismiss it as a possibility.
Shotgun is your best bet. Most people here use them and can readily help with any problems. Nobody would know your cooler chamber like you do.
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Re: Think its a humidity prob.(pics included) [Re: DARK-SIDE]
#12756743 - 06/17/10 07:09 AM (3 years, 2 days ago) |
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That little mushy there, is it hard as rock? I have seen that before and I know my humidity was correct. I am not sure what causes that exactly but I know that they are hard a cement and an anomaly that just seems to happen. Like the shingles for mushies or something.
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Re: Think its a humidity prob.(pics included) [Re: DARK-SIDE]
#12757021 - 06/17/10 09:35 AM (3 years, 2 days ago) |
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Two problems. Insufficient light, and insufficient fresh air exchange.
You should be getting several air exchanges per hour, and the CFL should be within a few inches of the fruiting chamber, not on the ceiling. You may as well be growing in the dark.
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Re: Think its a humidity prob.(pics included) [Re: RogerRabbit]
#12758218 - 06/17/10 03:45 PM (3 years, 2 days ago) |
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ok so i just built a SGFC today and put my cakes inside. does this set up look like it will work better? i put my light almost directly on top, that's ok right? one thing i haven't been able to find a clear answer to is if i am supposed to only mist inside the chamber before pinning, or to keep misting even after pinning and through the entire fruiting cycle. I'm assuming that I only mist at first because from what i have read it is bad to directly mist the pins and maturing fruits.I am assuming that once fruiting starts the chamber and perlite will create enough humidity.
Thanks for all of the advise guys i appreciate it!
here is my new set up
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Re: Think its a humidity prob.(pics included) [Re: DARK-SIDE]
#12758241 - 06/17/10 03:54 PM (3 years, 2 days ago) |
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Yes that is looking better. Misting and fanning should be done through out the entire fruiting process from pinning to picking, a light mist will not harm the shrooms and is needed to maintain humidity.
How far apart are the holes and what type of light are you using?
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Re: Think its a humidity prob.(pics included) [Re: CH HELL]
#12758259 - 06/17/10 03:59 PM (3 years, 2 days ago) |
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The light is a CF and the holes are about two to three inches apart on all six sides. I also raised the box up about an inch with some small plastic flower trays for air circulation from the underside.
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Re: Think its a humidity prob.(pics included) [Re: DARK-SIDE]
#12758264 - 06/17/10 04:02 PM (3 years, 2 days ago) |
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Lookin good  maybe put a fan somewhere in the room on oscillate so there is a constant air flow in the room. Other than that and misting, you should be good.
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Re: Think its a humidity prob.(pics included) [Re: conoshoto]
#12758268 - 06/17/10 04:04 PM (3 years, 2 days ago) |
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Looking good sir
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Re: Think its a humidity prob.(pics included) [Re: DARK-SIDE]
#12758278 - 06/17/10 04:11 PM (3 years, 2 days ago) |
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cool, I'm relieved..... there is so much time and anticipation leading up to this point that i think first timers like me freak out when everything doesn't go perfectly. lol
thanks for steering me in the right direction. I'm gonna try bulk next. does anybody have a good link to an effective beginners bulk tek (which preferably includes FC instructions)
I have been looking at alot of them but it gets overwhelming when you see sooooo many different methods.
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